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my note pro 12 is on the way - however as the surface pro 3 was announced, im sceptical about whether this still remains a good choice. i got it discounted from the original skyrocket prices, for 500GBP.
I suppose surface pro 3 base model will be rather expensive, which makes this choice easier. however it seems that its stylus technology might be better for handwriting
You do realize the Surface uses the same Wacom pens?
The design of the Spen, particularly its size, is admittedly very, very inconvenient. It's perfect on my 5.7" Note 3, but on 12.2" it's just too tiny. (And I'm saying that with small female hands. I can't even begin to imagine how you lot must experience it...)
If the pen is the only debating point, try the Wacom Bamboo Feel for Note. It comes in plastic and in carbon, with the latter being a bit more expensive but it feels like a real solid good oldfashioned pen. I'm using it, makes writing so much easier.
http://www.wacom.com/en/de/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel-carbon
http://www.wacom.com/en/de/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel
I'll admit the Surface 3 looks tempting. The dealkiller for me is the Intel HD 4400. The demonspawn of the GPU market, those Intel HD's have always been a disgrace to graphic cards. Show me one with an Nvidia card and I'll consider it. I can't run Adobe CS6 on an IntelHD, and I can't game on one, either. So what does that leave me with? The same tablet as I already have. As a designer, Android is simply much more personal.
I agree with everything above except the fact that the cheapest model is quite cheap with an i3. And they claim that their new pen technology (not wacom) and with the "thinnest" optical stack, is like, very good and improved..
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Surface Pro 3 stylus uses N-Trig technology, not compatible with Wacom.
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KoryandR said:
Surface Pro 3 stylus uses N-Trig technology, not compatible with Wacom.
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A terrible decision, in my opinion as a digital artist. Wacom has a longstanding reputation in the digital art industry as the best brand used for digital drawing, painting and writing. By everyone from the first beginner (Bamboo) to Hollywood and the largest game studios(Intuos, CintiQ).
I guess Microsoft prefers the bigger $$$ from note taking side of business sales. Artists who can afford a Wacom Cintiq Companion may go that way instead (more pressure levels, angle detection, express keys and so).
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N-Trig is the stylus tech used in the HTC Flyer wasn't it? Does it still need a separate battery in the stylus to work?
Its my long time experience that it comes down to what you want to use them for. I have used NTrig pens on Lenovo's 1st (and only) pen tablet. It worked fine for long while, until lenovo stopped updating it, and i never felt like rooting it. NTrig does have to use a AAAA battery, sine Wacom has a patent on the non-battery magnetic tech. Yes, the HTC Flyer was kind of meh, but i've also used the NTrig on a newer Viao. So as far as writing or art, its close if not identical to feel as a wacom. Just that battery is tough to find sometimes, and not really cheap.
I recently got the Note 12.2 as well, and am loving it. I love doing digital art, and use this as a giant digital sketchbook. A Surface Pro falls short in a few places for my needs. And it has nothing to do with the tech or battery life. (the latter could be better) Using windows art programs on a portable tablet, without a keyboard, would slow me down. Buttons are not big enough to quickly change menus or tools. Pinch to zoom and pan are clumsy if included at all. And windows 8 is still unintuitive and annoying. By the same token, i have a Lenovo Thinkpad laptop i draw on as well, so i can always take sketches from one, and clean them up real nice on the other.
If you were using it for mostly notes, and wanted the MS Office atmosphere, then i think either is perfectly fine. Get a nice bluetooth keyboard for the note with a comfortable case, and baby, you got a stew going. (and potentially cheaper than the Surface's neat but expensive magnetic keyboard.) And a neat little tip, if you do want to make the arts, get a matte screen protector. (also sometimes called anti-glare) It has a bit of texture to feel a little like paper. And i got the SPen with eraser for the note 2 to use with the note 12.2. Its about the size of a regular ballpoint pen, and pretty cheap on amazon. I would just recommend changing the rubber tip to the plastic one if you're using a matte screen. Rubber feels weird, like rubbing a balloon slowly.
Which is better for note taking:
1 standard Note 4 stylus
2 Samsung's own slim full size pen, see here http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...10_SY165&qid=1413674258&sr=8-7#ref=mp_s_a_1_7
3 Wacom Bamboo Feel http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...qid=1413674374&sr=8-2-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
4 Mont Blanc see here http://m.luxurydaily.com/montblanc-...tylus-range/?utm_referrer=direct/not provided
5 Samsung BT S Pen see here http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-hm5100-bluetooth-stylus-pen-white-p38294.htm
The one that cimes with the device
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The one that cimes with the device
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comes*
but i agree 100% no need the factory one is best!
http://youtu.be/vhLPeOoR72k
I'd try some of these if they were about $20
The Montblanc one is going for $600 lmao
KennyCheng0705 said:
The Montblanc one is going for $600 lmao
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Pix option is £235
If it's just to write/draw something quickly, I would say the spen is fine. If it's something taking significant time, then you may want something larger.
I personally have not tried anything other than the spen. I've seen pics and read posts where people modified old pens to hold the spen instead of buying a second stylus pen
Are the old note pens compatible with the N4?
I have the Bamboo Feel (non-note) and it's definitely a much nicer feeling pen (with a much more usable button,) than the S-pen. I've only used it on my Surface Pro though.
skrubol said:
Are the old note pens compatible with the N4?
I have the Bamboo Feel (non-note) and it's definitely a much nicer feeling pen (with a much more usable button,) than the S-pen. I've only used it on my Surface Pro though.
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I'm just using an ampen stylus, and it's a perfect substitute for my finger. Not too pricey, and gets the job done pretty well.
This video was the answere I found 1 year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFypTlcPutE
I have the Wacom and the Samsung BT Pen. Both work great. I like the feel of the Wacom best.
natsinicky said:
I'm just using an ampen stylus, and it's a perfect substitute for my finger. Not too pricey, and gets the job done pretty well.
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I love my ampen!! Perfect stylus!
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I love my ampen!! Perfect stylus!
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Not a Wacom capable stylus. Not really what we are talking about.
I must say, The OEM S Pen that comes with the Note 4 is fantastic.
I have no gripe with it at all. It is light and I have gotten used to the feel of it.
I use it to write many journals into S Notes, writing material, notes, and the occasional doodle if I have time and ... cough "inspiration"
Awesome stuff.
jah said:
Which is better for note taking:
1 standard Note 4 stylus
2 Samsung's own slim full size pen, see here http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...10_SY165&qid=1413674258&sr=8-7#ref=mp_s_a_1_7
3 Wacom Bamboo Feel http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...qid=1413674374&sr=8-2-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165
4 Mont Blanc see here http://m.luxurydaily.com/montblanc-...tylus-range/?utm_referrer=direct/not provided
5 Samsung BT S Pen see here http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-hm5100-bluetooth-stylus-pen-white-p38294.htm
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Cross executive stylus. Too bad they don't make them anymore. I take tons of notes with both the Note 4 and Note Pro 12.2 and carry this stylus with me every day. I bought it years ago to use with a Fujitsu tablet pc.
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This video was the answere I found 1 year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFypTlcPutE
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Thanks. Where can I get an Note 4 S-Pen holder? He talks about making one at the end of the video.
"Months Blanc, now you too can be that douche." All jokes asside I like the S Pen, it goes back in the phone so I'm never without it, that's nicer than carrying something around I think.
Hello folks I was going to buy the sammy tab s 10.5, and i found out that there is no S-Pen like Galaxy note series have...
Ive heard some good things about the S pen, i dont know how good they are but looked fine for drawings and note-takings that I do. I definitely need some good, precise stylus that supports palm rejection. i know there is other thread about stylus, but then there was no need for palm rejection in that thread.
If yall know of any stylus with palm rejection, just throw it out there for me. Would tab s 10.5 be compatible with stylis for ipads, such as jot touch 4 and HEX3 Jaja?
Oh, and id I have two bluetooth device for my tablet(i.e: keyboard and stylus), would they work at same time, or do I have to disconnect one to use the other one?
Thanks in advance!
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Targus Stylus for Samsung - Black
I am using the Targus Stylus for Samsung with my Tab S 8.4. Works perfect. Precise, fine-tipped and a comparatively harder tip (which doesn't scratch the screen but still gives good control). But there is no palm rejection. I believe palm rejection is app-dependent and available only to the Note devices.
http://targus.com/uk/product_details.asp?sku=AMM20EU
I've been using my c-pen from my old galaxy s3 s in my new tab s 10.5 and it works perfect, very precise and smooth, at least works perfect in S-Note and autodesk sketchbook app :good:
Is this the real deal?
Anyone have any luck with these?
http://www.replacementlcds.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-c-pen-stylus-black/
Is this an actual Samsung C-pen?
I was wondering if any of you knew of a larger compatible stylus for the Note 4 I could purchase. I don't want to use one that has a fat capacitive end like all those cheap styluses I see on the internet, I'm talking about a larger stylus with the same functionality of the S-Pen.
Pretty sure the Wacom specific stylus' work. Here is one specific for the note line, but I think others work as well.
http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Stylus-Samsung-CS300UK2/dp/B00IWJM9SW
The first notes used to have the pen accessory that came with a styles and it slipped into a "pen" sized holder. Wish samsung brought that back for our devices.
Lieutenant Fudge said:
I was wondering if any of you knew of a larger compatible stylus for the Note 4 I could purchase. I don't want to use one that has a fat capacitive end like all those cheap styluses I see on the internet, I'm talking about a larger stylus with the same functionality of the S-Pen.
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There are several options:
Most (if not all, because The Note series is using Wacom technology) Wacom styli works
HM-5100 Bluetooth-enabled S Pen
Or the fancy Montblanc Styli
All of those are larger styli that works with our Note 4.
I hope I can help
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You need penabled styli. So the Wacom Intuos will not work, but FE a wacom pen for Microsoft surface will work, and for nealry every tablet PC will work!!
Is there any third party S Pen's that are actually fulled sized pens? I'm aware of the Mont Blanc offerings but I don't think they are available atm but have no intention of spending $300 on one.
I use the Note 4 in lectures for school and would appreciate something that could offer a more comfortable writing experience.
I've been looking for one too. Somebody should make one. It is a very popular phone.
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Is there any third party S Pen's that are actually fulled sized pens? I'm aware of the Mont Blanc offerings but I don't think they are available atm but have no intention of spending $300 on one.
I use the Note 4 in lectures for school and would appreciate something that could offer a more comfortable writing experience.
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You could give this one a try but it is listed for the Note 2 so I'm not sure if it will be fully compatible. If you do try it, please report back
Edit: I also found this one which may be even less compatible from the Amazon reviews but *might* still work.
Well you might find it interesting. But my surface pro 2 pen works with all my notes. And vice versa. Pretty nice.
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Well you might find it interesting. But my surface pro 2 pen works with all my notes. And vice versa. Pretty nice.
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That means its compatible with any wacom stylus? So the pressure sensitivity is functional with the Surface pen?
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That means its compatible with any wacom stylus? So the pressure sensitivity is functional with the Surface pen?
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Yes,sometime it's funny for those wacom stylus with eraser function work well too.
normal for writing/drawing,reverse it for erasing like eraser.
pen pressure base on the stylus level too.
There quite a few compatible ones on wacom's site.
Caelrie said:
There quite a few compatible ones on wacom's site.
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http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-CS300UK...1419552707&sr=8-5&keywords=bamboo+feel+stylus
This is the one I have used on my Note 2, Note 3 Note 10.1, Note 10.1 2014, and can use on my note 4. Performs like the OEM stylus and has the button to activate the s-pen functions. Keep in mind that I only use it for writing and not drawing or artwork.