I have an HTC One X with 3.18 firmware that is rooted, SuperCID, S-OFF and unlocked. I want to return it to stock, unroot and re-lock - basically I want to get it as close to stock as possible.
I made a backup of the stock ROM prior to flashing a custom ROM onto it, so I was able to restore that.
So here is how I assume I need to go about this:
unroot - not sure how to do this, I can't RUU 3.18 can I? I'm downloading the stock OTA right now just in case.
set the bootloader back to "locked" using this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168578
Is this correct? Do I need to undo the SuperCID? Is it possible to undo the S-OFF?
Why are you returning it to stock?
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exad said:
Why are you returning it to stock?
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It's a work phone. My bosses didn't care about me rooting it, but I will need to return it eventually to exchange it for another phone and it needs to be stock in case another employee gets it.
See the problem with that is, you've rendered it to a state whereby, if you relock and S-ON and the next person who uses it runs into an issue and wants to RUU or an update comes out, the phone will brick.
But yes, essentially, you're on the right track, RUU, to change CID back "fastboot oem writecid CWS__001" Then, I can't recall how to get Security flag back to S-ON but it is mentioned on this forum, I just don't have time to look for it, being at work.
Then you can relock
But just remember that if the next person RUUs or updates they will certainly brick. I would never root a company phone, for future reference.
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See the problem with that is, you've rendered it to a state whereby, if you relock and S-ON and the next person who uses it runs into an issue and wants to RUU or an update comes out, the phone will brick.
But yes, essentially, you're on the right track, RUU, to change CID back "fastboot oem writecid CWS__001" Then, I can't recall how to get Security flag back to S-ON but it is mentioned on this forum, I just don't have time to look for it, being at work.
Then you can relock
But just remember that if the next person RUUs or updates they will certainly brick. I would never root a company phone, for future reference.
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Ah, gotcha. I didn't know that would happen when I unlocked and rooted - thought I had read everything I needed to about it prior to rooting, but I guess I missed that.
I guess I could just RUU, change the CID back, but leave it as S-OFF. That would keep it from getting bricked, right? The chances of it being an issue would be pretty slim I imagine.
Yes but then you also leave a big security hole open aswell.
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Yes but then you also leave a big security hole open aswell.
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So there's really no way to return it back to stock? That's kind of a bummer...
So I'm currently returning my phone to stock.
In some steps for returning the phone to stock I've seen them tell you to lock the bootloader prior to flashing the RUU. This doesn't sound right to me but I wanted to check. Here are the steps I'll be taking:
1. Change CID back to stock - fastboot oem writecid CWS__001
2. flash RUU
3. Lock the bootloader - fastboot oem lock
4. Set it to s-on - fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
In some sets of instructions I've seen steps 2 and 3 switched around. I just want to make sure I get these in the right order.
kimboinatl said:
So I'm currently returning my phone to stock.
In some steps for returning the phone to stock I've seen them tell you to lock the bootloader prior to flashing the RUU. This doesn't sound right to me but I wanted to check. Here are the steps I'll be taking:
1. Change CID back to stock - fastboot oem writecid CWS__001
2. flash RUU
3. Lock the bootloader - fastboot oem lock
4. Set it to s-on - fastboot oem writesecureflag 3
In some sets of instructions I've seen steps 2 and 3 switched around. I just want to make sure I get these in the right order.
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Sometimes the ruu fails if your bootloader is locked, but if it works, then you can lock it afterwards. It should work fine since you're s-off. Also, being s-off doesn't (shouldn't) void any warranties, so that step isn't necessarily required.
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Sometimes the ruu fails if your bootloader is locked, but if it works, then you can lock it afterwards. It should work fine since you're s-off. Also, being s-off doesn't (shouldn't) void any warranties, so that step isn't necessarily required.
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Excellent, so I can just RUU and then lock. I think I may just leave it as s-off - I'm leaving a security hole, but my main concern is just getting it back to stock without root.
Also just to confirm, the RUU will set recovery back to stock as well, right?
EDIT: Crap, just realized my tampered flag is still on. The RUU doesn't fix this, right? Guess I need to remove this first.
kimboinatl said:
Excellent, so I can just RUU and then lock. I think I may just leave it as s-off - I'm leaving a security hole, but my main concern is just getting it back to stock without root.
Also just to confirm, the RUU will set recovery back to stock as well, right?
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Yessir. Everything should be back to stock except your CID (use the writeCID command), your bootloader (fastboot oem relock), and your s-off which you can leave as is.
Edit: it should remove the tampered flag. It did when I ruu'ed. Which ruu are you running?
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Yessir. Everything should be back to stock except your CID (use the writeCID command), your bootloader (fastboot oem relock), and your s-off which you can leave as is.
Edit: it should remove the tampered flag. It did when I ruu'ed. Which ruu are you running?
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I'm using the 3.18 RUU (RUU_EVITA_UL_JB_45_S_Cingular_US_3.18.502.6_Radio_0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34_release_signed.exe).
I found a thread that has instructions on changing RELOCKED to LOCKED here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168578&highlight=lock+status+flag
Do I need to do this? My understanding is that it will forever say "RELOCKED" unless I actually set it back myself somehow, but would an RUU do this for me?
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I'm using the 3.18 RUU (RUU_EVITA_UL_JB_45_S_Cingular_US_3.18.502.6_Radio_0.24p.32.09.06_10.130.32.34_release_signed.exe).
I found a thread that has instructions on changing RELOCKED to LOCKED here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168578&highlight=lock+status+flag
Do I need to do this? My understanding is that it will forever say "RELOCKED" unless I actually set it back myself somehow, but would an RUU do this for me?
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When I ruu'd it set it back to locked
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31ken31 said:
When I ruu'd it set it back to locked
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Really? RUU shouldn't have an effect on the LOCKED flag.
31ken31 said:
When I ruu'd it set it back to locked
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Are you sure? If so, did you happen to have s-off when you did this?
Yes and supercid
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Are you sure? If so, did you happen to have s-off when you did this?
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If he didn't (have s-off) he would have bricked.
I am also curious about this. If the combo of S-off and RELOCKED and RUU results in LOCKED, than its the first I've heard of it.
Running the RUU and UNLOCKED, I can say first hand, the result is that it still says UNLOCKED.
I went ahead and used the method here to set it back to LOCKED:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168578&page=3
I set the CID back to original, relocked the bootloader, set it to LOCKED with the above method, and did the RUU. Everything is now back to stock except for the s-off. I seriously doubt they'll look for it or even care really.
31ken31, I probably would have just tried what you did if this wasn't a work phone, I just didn't want to risk it.
Thanks to everyone for the help!
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the CID back to original, relocked the bootloader, set it to LOCKED with the above method, and did the RUU. Everything is now back to stock except for the s-off. I seriously doubt they'll look for it or even care really.
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Or have any idea what S-off even means, for that matter.
And a few folks have randomly received S-off devices from the factory. So you can conceivably just claim "It was like that when I got it", if they happen to ask about it.
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Or have any idea what S-off even means, for that matter.
And a few folks have randomly received S-off devices from the factory. So you can conceivably just claim "It was like that when I got it", if they happen to ask about it.
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Yes on both counts
I could have also claimed that I got one with super CID, I think I've read that it happens sometimes, but it was easy enough to change back so hey, why not.
I'll really miss having root though. It makes things so much better.
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So I am as excited as everyone else about s-off. Been waiting for awhile, but in the haste of everyone rooting their phone, I haven't been able to find a thread about restoring s-on in case of warranty work. Have I over looked something?
lots of views but no comments. This is from the IRC if interested
<splayer7> sorry if this has been asked, but what about resuming s-on for warranty work?
<hyuh> splayer7: no, not available
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lots of views but no comments. This is from the IRC if interested
<splayer7> sorry if this has been asked, but what about resuming s-on for warranty work?
<hyuh> splayer7: no, not available
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Exactly what has been said. There is no unrooting or S-On restoring at this time. I would just wait if you haven't already. HTC Released their source codes today. Its only a matter of time before an easier root is available with unroot, and S-on.
Was told that we could s-on by running the RUU. Here's a link to some I've found but haven't tested any of this. http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/06/htc-sensation-ruushipped-roms-packaged.html
kevinliu2336 said:
Was told that we could s-on by running the RUU. Here's a link to some I've found but haven't tested any of this. http://droidangel.blogspot.com/2011/06/htc-sensation-ruushipped-roms-packaged.html
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do we have any confirmation on this working correctly
Tried it, resets your ROM but doesn't reset s-off
Guys.. There is about a 25% chance at best that HTC will actually check the boot loader status before providing warranty service. Even if you are unlucky and they do, if you make enough noise they might make an exception and let you off the hook. I think that as long as the issue that you are trying to resolve isn't a direct result of s-off or root, it should be fine.
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So I am as excited as everyone else about s-off. Been waiting for awhile, but in the haste of everyone rooting their phone, I haven't been able to find a thread about restoring s-on in case of warranty work. Have I over looked something?
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Flash an official RUU, and the device will be S-ON! TESTED!
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Flash an official RUU, and the device will be S-ON! TESTED!
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Are you sure man? Somebody else above tested and found the opposite..
If the ruu is left untampered with, the boot image will be replaced with a stock one. Boot image is where your s-off lives. So in theory it should without a doubt work. You just have to make sure the boot image is in the ruu
smoochiezz24 said:
If the ruu is left untampered with, the boot image will be replaced with a stock one. Boot image is where your s-off lives. So in theory it should without a doubt work. You just have to make sure the boot image is in the ruu
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I used the rom.zip file included in an untouched RUU, and I checked it includes HBOOT, also saw version change when I went into HBOOT.
It does NOT reset S-OFF back to S-ON.
I dont know if when you flash it reads S-OFF so keeps it, for users who genuinely had S-OFF?
I have personally tested this, and can confirm that using HTC's stock RUU does not return the phone to S-ON. However, it did remove the top area that says revolutionary, so now it appears as though I have a factory S-OFF device
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bummer.. I really hope there is a way to reverse s-off, just in case. but then again, I do have insurance so I guess I could say it was 'stolen' if I really need to get it replaced
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For those worrying about warranty issues..
You can try flashing the correct RUU for your phone.
IF that doesn't get rid of -revolutionary- s-off, then you can flash the ENG HBOOT (which gets rid of -revolutionary- but gives you ENG S-OFF) then you can flash the correct RUU for your region (which will definitely get rid of ENG S-OFF, and make you official stock HBOOT S-ON)
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Try flashing ENG HBOOT, then the RUU afterwards.
I am going to try to get my phone back to S-ON now, just to test everything
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Hmm, very odd indeed, after flashing the RUU I have 'stock' Radio S-OFF (no -Revolutionary-) , I tried fastboot oem write secuflag 1 and fastboot oem writecid HTC__001 but I am still Radio S-OFF.
Just so people know, flashing full RUUs, even HBOOTs do NOT get rid of Radio S-OFF. Thats why it is favored by people, it can only be turned S-ON specifically by tools which may be released for the Sensation in the near future. I thought these tools only sent the commands that I tried to change the Radio security status. It would appear not.
However
There is no need to worry, Radio S-OFF probably won't void your warranty (if you sent it to a HTC repair center), as long as you have the correct CID and ROM installed you should be fine.
If I remember correctly, with the past Android phones, some people randomly got S-OFF (like sensation users did) out of the box. The HTC repair center didn't care. They don't like custom ROMs, custom HBOOTs, rooted ROMs, etc
I currently have S-ON with SuperCID, and I'm trying to get S-OFF with stock AT&T CID. I've heard that it's a fairly simple process to change the CID ("fastboot oem writecid HTC_001"), but HTC_001 is for the unbranded international version, and I'm having a hard time finding the code for the AT&T version, which I suppose I failed to write down before overwriting with SuperCID. Hope someone can help? Also, should I be s-ON or S-OFF to write the CID?
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I currently have S-ON with SuperCID, and I'm trying to get S-OFF with stock AT&T CID. I've heard that it's a fairly simple process to change the CID ("fastboot oem writecid HTC_001"), but HTC_001 is for the unbranded international version, and I'm having a hard time finding the code for the AT&T version, which I suppose I failed to write down before overwriting with SuperCID. Hope someone can help? Also, should I be s-ON or S-OFF to write the CID?
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You can only S-OFF with super CID 11111111
After S-OFF you can write it back to the default of CWS__001 for AT&T, but there is no advantage to doing so. You can do whatever you like regardless of what your CID is after S-OFF. I set mine to R00T_001 after for example. (must be 8 characters)
Just noticed your other thread and see why you want the default CID. If you're selling it, make sure your cid is currently 11111111 then S-OFF then you can use that command to change the cid to default. If you're going to sell it, after S-OFF, I'd just format the SD card and run the 3.18 RUU and then power it off after so the person you sell it to will have a fresh start.
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After S-OFF you can write it back to the default of CWS__001 for AT&T, but there is no advantage to doing so.
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From what I understand, CID can be changed once from SuperCID to something else, without s-off.
The OP wants to sell his phone, per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251955
I suggested either changing from SuperCID, or achieving S-off, so the next owner doesn't unintentionally brick the phone by trying to install the 3.18 OTA or RUU (since he is currently SuperCID and S-on).
Not sure why he started this thread, I would have just answered the AT&T CID question in the other thread.
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From what I understand, CID can be changed once from SuperCID to something else, without s-off.
The OP wants to sell his phone, per this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2251955
I suggested either changing from SuperCID, or achieving S-off, so the next owner doesn't unintentionally brick the phone by trying to install the 3.18 OTA or RUU (since he is currently SuperCID and S-on).
Not sure why he started this thread, I would have just answered the AT&T CID question in the other thread.
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Sorry, the other thread was started because I couldn't turn my phone on, and was becoming unrelated to original post, thought it would be prudent to create a new thread. Really appreciate your help though.
Just a heads up, I bricked my first TELUS HOXL eventhough I had changed my CID back to the default prior to RUUing. May have been a fluke but yeah do with this info what you will.
UGGGHHH, this is getting frustrating...had to root the phone to get to S-OFF, so I used the X-FACTOR exploit, but when I tried to get S-OFF (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071) I got the first 2 adb command off but the second one said it couldn't find 'su' so I assumed to root hadn't worked. So I decided it would just be easiest to go back to CyanogenMod and start the whole process over. Only when I tried to unlock the bootloader again, I found that it wouldn't stick. It would SAY it was successful and reboot the phone, but when I would reboot to bootloader it would say "relocked". SO decided to run an RUU, only now the hboot was up to 2.14 from the S-OFF flashing, so I decided to run the 3.15 RUU instead of the 2.20, and that SEEMED to work fine, except that now I'm right back to where I was with not being able to turn the phone on, and I tried my previous trick of the Vol Down + Power...
EDIT: Aaaand, no LED when charging...
bikeracer4487 said:
UGGGHHH, this is getting frustrating...had to root the phone to get to S-OFF, so I used the X-FACTOR exploit, but when I tried to get S-OFF (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071) I got the first 2 adb command off but the second one said it couldn't find 'su' so I assumed to root hadn't worked. So I decided it would just be easiest to go back to CyanogenMod and start the whole process over. Only when I tried to unlock the bootloader again, I found that it wouldn't stick. It would SAY it was successful and reboot the phone, but when I would reboot to bootloader it would say "relocked". SO decided to run an RUU, only now the hboot was up to 2.14 from the S-OFF flashing, so I decided to run the 3.15 RUU instead of the 2.20, and that SEEMED to work fine, except that now I'm right back to where I was with not being able to turn the phone on, and I tried my previous trick of the Vol Down + Power...
EDIT: Aaaand, no LED when charging...
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That's a brick. Do you have a linux boot disk? if not, create a linux boot disk or usb and then try the unbrick evita thread. If you can get past step 3, you should be able to unbrick. if not, Sorry to hear.
exad said:
That's a brick. Do you have a linux boot disk? if not, create a linux boot disk or usb and then try the unbrick evita thread. If you can get past step 3, you should be able to unbrick. if not, Sorry to hear.
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Hm, not having much luck so far, but I AM seeing QHSUSB_DLOAD in the device manager...
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Hm, not having much luck so far, but I AM seeing QHSUSB_DLOAD in the device manager...
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Yeah that bid brick I believe. Get live USB stick running Linux. All you need is small USB stick like 2 or 4 GB. Then download pen drive USB image creator. And run Linux from that. Then exad mentioned a thread to look into. I recommend an Ubuntu based distro. I use Linux mint
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There's a guide to making a bootable Linux usb in q&a if you need it.
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exad said:
There's a guide to making a bootable Linux usb in q&a if you need it.
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Yeah, booting from Linux isn't a problem, but as I said, I was trying to put it to stock so I could sell it...but then I discovered it was still under warranty (with just a week left), so instead of messing around in Linux I took it to an AT&T warranty center on my way home and they just straight up replaced with a new One X... Everything turned out better than expected
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Yeah, booting from Linux isn't a problem, but as I said, I was trying to put it to stock so I could sell it...but then I discovered it was still under warranty (with just a week left), so instead of messing around in Linux I took it to an AT&T warranty center on my way home and they just straight up replaced with a new One X... Everything turned out better than expected
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Great!! But is it on the new unrootable software?
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Great!! But is it on the new unrootable software?
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Yup :-/ Software version 3.18, 2.14 hboot, S-ON, and CID of CWS__001... But since I won't be keeping this phone, it'll be someone else's problem...
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Yup :-/ Software version 3.18, 2.14 hboot, S-ON, and CID of CWS__001... But since I won't be keeping this phone, it'll be someone else's problem...
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LoL!!
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It is technically better to have a brand new in box phone for selling. That's awesome! Congrats! I wish Canadian carriers warranted phones like they do in the US. You only get manufacturer warranty here.
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It is technically better to have a brand new in box phone for selling. That's awesome! Congrats! I wish Canadian carriers warranted phones like they do in the US. You only get manufacturer warranty here.
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You could pay the 7 bucks a month for device protection then drive over it with a car when you brick it
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area51avenger said:
You could pay the 7 bucks a month for device protection then drive over it with a car when you brick it
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Or just keep it and say that you lost it. And of you are able to fix it, sell it and you still keep a new phone.
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Pft, that's an extra 252$ within my contract period. Forget that noise! I doubt I'll even have this phone in a year lol.
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Or just keep it and say that you lost it. And of you are able to fix it, sell it and you still keep a new phone.
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They don't warrant lost phones here.
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Pft, that's an extra 252$ within my contract period. Forget that noise! I doubt I'll even have this phone in a year lol.
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They don't warrant lost phones here.
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Oh wow. Didn't know that
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They don't warrant lost phones here.
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They don't cover lost phones on warranty anywhere. He was talking about insurance, not a warranty.
Hi all,
I have an AT&T One X. The bootloader is unlocked but is S-ON. I want to return this phone to as close as stock as possible. This phone is destined to go to another user who knows nothing of rooting and such so I don't care if it is rooted or not.
I understand I have to relock the bootloader to be able to flash an RUU right? Hboot is currently at 1.14.002, Radio is at 0.19as.32.09.11_2. TWRP 2.3.1.0 is installed.
The phone is currently running Cleanrom 6.5 and all works fine. I just want this back to as close to AT&T stock as possible so that the user I am giving the phone to will not have any problems.
If I relock the bootloader can I return this to stock via the most recent AT&T 3.18 RUU located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191477 or is there something else I need to do first?
Thanks for all your help.
Tersanyus said:
Hi all,
I have an AT&T One X. The bootloader is unlocked but is S-ON. I want to return this phone to as close as stock as possible. This phone is destined to go to another user who knows nothing of rooting and such so I don't care if it is rooted or not.
I understand I have to relock the bootloader to be able to flash an RUU right? Hboot is currently at 1.14.002, Radio is at 0.19as.32.09.11_2. TWRP 2.3.1.0 is installed.
The phone is currently running Cleanrom 6.5 and all works fine. I just want this back to as close to AT&T stock as possible so that the user I am giving the phone to will not have any problems.
If I relock the bootloader can I return this to stock via the most recent AT&T 3.18 RUU located here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191477 or is there something else I need to do first?
Thanks for all your help.
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You'll need to S-OFF first or you'll brick.
There's a howto on the original android development section.
exad said:
You'll need to S-OFF first or you'll brick.
There's a howto on the original android development section.
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Just flash a stock rooted Rom. Most users won't even know it's rooted. And having a custom recovery (even if they don't know they have it) can help if there is ever an issue. S-off so in the future if there's a update it won't brick the phone.
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31ken31 said:
Just flash a stock rooted Rom. Most users won't even know it's rooted. And having a custom recovery (even if they don't know they have it) can help if there is ever an issue. S-off so in the future if there's a update it won't brick the phone.
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I agree, except for leaving it rooted. I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU, this way the buyer doesn't get shocked or confused if an app asks for root access, but has the option to do whatever they want to their phone if they so decide.
exad said:
I agree, except for leaving it rooted. I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU, this way the buyer doesn't get shocked or confused if an app asks for root access, but has the option to do whatever they want to their phone if they so decide.
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I forgot about su access prompt. That could be a shocker lol
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exad said:
I would leave just the bootloader unlocked and S-OFF and RUU.
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I agree. Couple reasons (both related to RUU). If the new user for some reason needs to recover the phone, and runs the RUU (not unheard of, HTC support will sometimes direct customers to do this), that person will either:
1) Brick the phone, if its left as SuperCID and S-on
2) If S-on (but CID is changed back), and bootloader is left unlocked, the RUU won't run. The person will have no idea why, and will likely be stuck.
S-off solves both of these potential issues. If you are at all worried about the next user. I would S-off, then run the RUU to return the phone to stock. The only thing that would be "not stock" is unlocked bootloader and S-off. But neither of these will mean anything or affect a less experienced user.
I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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Fair point. Switching the phone back to the AT&T CID and locking the bootloader might be the best alternative. Then run the RUU to get it back on stock recovery and ROM.
Giving/selling the phone to an unsuspecting noob with SuperCID and S-on just seems like a bad idea. Worse than S-off.
iElvis said:
I'm going to disagree with the above.
If this person knows nothing of rooting and doesn't care, you should give them a stock phone. Being s-off is a potential security risk that should only be taken by someone who a) knows about it, and b) knows what it means. If you're selling this phone, it's arguably deceptive to give them something with a lurking vulnerability.
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I've seen bricks after RUUing, even after changing the CID back to default.. It's a toss up I guess. Typically, when I sell my phone or hacked device, I just sell it as being hacked this way people know what they are getting into. Advertising as such has never hindered my ability to sell it either.
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Fair point. Switching the phone back to the AT&T CID and locking the bootloader might be the best alternative. Then run the RUU to get it back on stock recovery and ROM.
Giving/selling the phone to an unsuspecting noob with SuperCID and S-on just seems like a bad idea. Worse than S-off.
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I didn't mean leaving it supercid--that is obviously a risk.
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I've seen bricks after RUUing, even after changing the CID back to default.. It's a toss up I guess. Typically, when I sell my phone or hacked device, I just sell it as being hacked this way people know what they are getting into. Advertising as such has never hindered my ability to sell it either.
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That's kind of my point. Selling it rooted is fine, just represent it for what it is. You shouldn't give a modified phone to someone who doesn't know what that even means.
The phone is going to a friend who has a Pantech Burst currently. As someone mentioned I didn't want them to get a SuperSU prompt for root access and have no idea what that means. I tried a stock rooted rom but it kept rebooting. I did factory reset/data wipe and reloaded the rom twice but still kept doing it. I thought it odd too. Cleamrom is acting just fine though.
After hard bricking a Droid DNA which I don't know if it was due to being unlocked and such I'm starting to feel rooting and custom roms isn't for me anymore. The Droid DNA was replaced and the replacement was never unlocked (and since it has most recent software it couldn't be unlocked. Don't get me wrong, I love not running stock devices. It's such a great feeling to get rid of all that carrier added bloat that I most liked.
I've actually moved on from the DNA as well. I'm on a One now from AT&T as my primary phone. And I so hate all that AT&T bloat in there. It's all disabled but still seeing it there just sends chills down my spine.
So now I am not so sure what to do about the One X now. My original thought was RUU back to factory and relock the bootloader and keep S-ON. That way if someone did look they'd only see "RELOCKED".
Makes me miss the easy days when I used a Captivate and Note 1. Those were so easy to use custom roms on.
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I didn't mean leaving it supercid--that is obviously a risk.
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Your previous post didn't explicitly say anything about that, one way or another. So I was just clarifying for the benefit of the OP. I knew what you meant, but wanted to make sure the OP did, too!
hello
having (what i am now convinced is) a hardware issue with my phone, where it periodically shuts itself down, typically when its idle, although it has happened when i have been using it. Have to do a long press on the thing (around 15-20 seconds), to bring it back to life
Its a Telstra HTC One XL.
phone doesnt seem to be overheating etc.
i have rooted, s-off'd, superCIDd, the thing, so when its booting, i am met with tampered/unlocked in hboot, with the initial HTC splashscreen saying that this build is for dev purposes.
have tried numerous ROMs etc, and am now back on a stock/rooted telstra rom.
Interestingly, the phone never locks up/shuts down when in recovery or fastboot (have left for a good 30 minutes/1 hr)
i am looking for a simple way to revert everything back to its original state, i know that if i simply re-lock the bootloader, it comes up with 'relocked', have looked at some other posts which say that you can use a hex editor to change the hboot text.
i am curious, if i wipe out all the relocked/tampered stuff, and then reflash the stock RUU, will that reset the hboot etc? i think i need to relock to reflash the stock RUU.
i am tempted to just hex edit the hboot stuff, uninstall SuperSU from the phone, and hopefully the repair guys arent that smart and dont look beyond some basic stuff..
the 'this build is for htc dev purposes' might be more difficult to remove...
Telstra wont do a warranty repair on a rooted phone!
if anyone has any ideas to the cause of the shutdowns, troubleshooting suggests, that would be great... there are no weird or wonderful apps installed
First thing is definitely try to RUU. If that doesn't work, I (or someone else) will help you after that.
You can remove the red text on the splash screen pretty easily, here's a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2156368
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yeah, thats the red text (tampered), will that get overwritten if i relock and then RUU? (i am pretty sure i will need to relock before RUU)
also, whats the standard text on the hboot screen? (if you havent super CIDd)
If you are s-off you don't need to relock to run the RUU.
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ok, so try the RUU, see if that fixes the shutdowns? if it doesnt, use that util to change all the hboot text, and take it back to the shop, and see if they are to dumb to notice?
Yep I think that's the best plan. RUU it and keep running that for a couple of days to see if you have an improvement. If not, it's likely a hardware issue.
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ok, cool, and do you know if i need to re-unlock the bootlader after the RUU? or if i am s-off i can change the hboot text etc?
gjw00 said:
ok, cool, and do you know if i need to re-unlock the bootlader after the RUU? or if i am s-off i can change the hboot text etc?
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There's no need to relock the boot loader if you're s-off. You can change the hboot and some bootloader text using the tool in the Android Development forum for this phone.
Pretty sure its hardware, same after ruu installed. At least now it restarts, usually after shutting off screen or taking off charger. Gonna use that util to change text back to s-on etc, doesn't say tampered, which is cool (must be ruu). What do I need to set to get rod of the cid-1111111 entry in hboot? What is default Telstra text? Hopefully they won't dig too deep.in the repaier shop!!
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Pretty sure its hardware, same after ruu installed. At least now it restarts, usually after shutting off screen or taking off charger. Gonna use that util to change text back to s-on etc, doesn't say tampered, which is cool (must be ruu). What do I need to set to get rod of the cid-1111111 entry in hboot? What is default Telstra text? Hopefully they won't dig too deep.in the repaier shop!!
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Ok so you'll need to RUU, relock the bootloader, change the text, change the CID, and the last thing you'll want to do is make it s-on.
The fastboot command to change the cid is:
fastboot oem writecid TELST001
I can't remember the command to make it s-on again, Google that, but it s-off be the very last thing you do after all other steps.
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cant i just change all the text, to make it 'look like' its s-off etc?
sorry for all the questions, do i just need s-off to write the hboot text etc?
I don't think you can change the s-off text. I think you can only change the tampered/unlocked/relocked text.
And yes you need s-off to write change that text and to change the CID back.
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thanks for the tips, i think that util changes text to s-off, although it might be better, to set everything back as normal (RUUd/relocked/s-off), at one point i thought that reverting all that stuff was not possible...
cannot get rid of the **RELOCKED** text.. that little util doesnt seem to remove that
Hmm you might be SOL then. Telstra are pretty strict when it comes to this stuff I think. I know Optus are, I used to work for a place did that took care of Optus repairs and warranties.
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managed to do it, now says ***LOCKED***, had to reunlock bootloader for that text to change
Good outcome, got all bootloader text back to standard, put the ruu on. Telstra repaired I within a few days by essentially giving me a brand new phone. All the battery issues (very fast standby drain) are also gone.
2 days in and resisting the temptation to root!
I've had the misfortune of my phone falling out of my pocket today and getting chipped on the HTC bar. I plan to use the HTC Advantage plan to get a replacement phone (first) then ship my old (current) one in because I literally CANNOT live without a phone for 10 days +. My question resides in am I going to have to revert this fully to stock? Like S-ON, Bootloader locked?? CID to VZW_000_1 or whatever it is? What all will I have to do to ship this in and not risk them turning the $600 hold on my account to a $600 charge?
& a lesson to everyone else on here, when someone tells you safety over looks, you better take it. I was stupid enough to do something I knew was stupid and used a cool case over the bulky safe Otterbox and now I'm sitting here upset over not only my phone being messed up, BUT my stupidity of not listening to anyone when they told me I should be using my Otterbox on my $500 investment.
Edit: Ugh I must be just completely idiotic today to not notice this either but just there's knocks in the top of the phone too. =_=
Yes, definitely set it back to stock. No reason not to.
brandogg said:
Yes, definitely set it back to stock. No reason not to.
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What do you consider stock? Doing an RUU and wiping EVERYTHING or doing an RUU and going S-ON/B-Locked?
I'm not very confident with attempting S-ON which is why I'm asking this lol.
I don't have any experience with HTC so I can't say based on anything, but I would do S-on if it was me. Definitely wait for some second opinions though...I can't imagine S-on is any harder than S-off.
Please don't go S-ON after going S-OFF... You have a large chance of destroying you phone.. being stuck in fastboot with a tampered flagged, locked bootloader and S-ON. Pretty much unsavable if you are on Verizon. Just restore a stock nandroid or do the RUU and flash stock recovery, then set the **unlocked** flag back to **locked**
Phones from HTC sometimes come already S-OFF. They really don't care. Just as long as you don't have a tampered flag and reset the **locked** banner.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Insert Coin. S-OFF.
pball52998 said:
Please don't go S-ON after going S-OFF... You have a large chance of destroying you phone.. being stuck in fastboot with a tampered flagged, locked bootloader and S-ON. Pretty much unsavable if you are on Verizon. Just restore a stock nandroid or do the RUU and flash stock recovery, then set the **unlocked** flag back to **locked**
Phones from HTC sometimes come already S-OFF. They really don't care. Just as long as you don't have a tampered flag and reset the **locked** banner.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Insert Coin. S-OFF.
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How would I set the **unlocked** flag to **locked** without actually locking it? Also I'll go with the RUU and do this/everything else thats been suggested before I send it to them.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
How would I set the **unlocked** flag to **locked** without actually locking it? Also I'll go with the RUU and do this/everything else thats been suggested before I send it to them.
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It's a command entered in through either a cmd prompt, terminal, or terminal emulator on the phone. Root is required. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708571 it's pretty simple so basically, flash the RUU (prerooted) then, go to that website ^^ run those commands. It will reset your **unlocked** flag to **locked** but I beg you, do NOT go S-ON. Since you're Verizon you shouldn't have a tampered flag
If you need more explanations feel free to PM me.
Sent from my HTC One Running Insert Coin. S-OFF.