Extra battery comparison - Galaxy S 4 Accessories

So I have the TMobile S4, the regular battery, Anker's 2600 mAh batteries, and unbranded 3000 mAh batteries from ebay.
What's the go-to battery tracking app? I'd love to know how these things really are, because just as I expected, the 3000 unbranded batteries don't seem to be lasting as long as either of the 2600's.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CBTZ2AG/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-x-3000mAh..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item51aae2b2ed
Willing to try out any battery tracking apps

i am using this on my s4 to test out my batteries;
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwyLDEsImNvbS5tc2QuYmF0dGVyeS5pbmRpY2F0b3IiXQ..

f2bacon said:
So I have the TMobile S4, the regular battery, Anker's 2600 mAh batteries, and unbranded 3000 mAh batteries from ebay.
What's the go-to battery tracking app? I'd love to know how these things really are, because just as I expected, the 3000 unbranded batteries don't seem to be lasting as long as either of the 2600's.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CBTZ2AG/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-x-3000mAh..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item51aae2b2ed
Willing to try out any battery tracking apps
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As a general rule of thumb, it won't ever last as long. You can't put more battery into the same space ( generally speaking ) or it would come that way from the factory. To get a bigger charge battery, you get a bigger ( physical ) battery along with the new phone back.

rkennison said:
As a general rule of thumb, it won't ever last as long. You can't put more battery into the same space ( generally speaking ) or it would come that way from the factory. To get a bigger charge battery, you get a bigger ( physical ) battery along with the new phone back.
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I feel the anker battery is a bit stronger than the stock, and the ebay batteries go way too quick, so I really wanted to test them. I figured the ebay battery would be a little thicker and I'd leave the back cover off, but the case on, but it still fits under the cover.

Have 5200 mAh battery for our device:
Battery for Samsung Galaxy S4
Regards

miro666 said:
Have 5200 mAh battery for our device:
Battery for Samsung Galaxy S4
Regards
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Says nothing about NFC on these batteries...so guess it's a no-go if this is needed....

dudeldei said:
Says nothing about NFC on these batteries...so guess it's a no-go if this is needed....
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I thing, from Galaxy S3 battery are usually with NFC able, but i will ask question from that about this. Even , I need strong battery, because i make couple days testing. My opinion: LTE (4G) network is worster from 3G for original 2600 mAh battery life, and for my way using, on 4G my original battery about hallf of thay live. Not enought for me, because i order this 5200 mAh (2 pieces, because i have speciall universal Sohsine charger for all handys). Wenn coming after test will request opinion about.
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Oem samsung Extended 2200 mAh battery?

http://www.cellularaccessory.com/eb145152yzbstd.html
Are all the batteries from the galaxy series the same?
Has any one tried it?
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http://www.cellularaccessory.com/eb145152yzbstd.html
Are all the batteries from the galaxy series the same?
Has any one tried it?
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It will probably fit, I don't doubt it but there seem to be a battery door as well and by the looks of it. Although it seems its for the fasinate only.
the fascinates battery fits but when ever I charge the phone, it says battery not detected, and the phone does not charge. more than likely you'd get the same error with the extended one.
all the galaxy s phones use the same 1500 mh battery i have the epic but i bought the battery sold for the vibrant and the have the same exact serial numbers on them.
says it needs a xl door
http://cgi.ebay.com/SAMSUNG-EXTENDE...200369?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item255d7c0b31
http://cgi.ebay.com/2200mAh-Extende...226762?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item1c1473f04a
I just did a search for Samsung 2200mah and came up with a 3 page list of batteries and phones. I'd be completely fine with a thicker phone to get longer battery lfe.
I just did a search for Samsung 2200mah and came up with a 3 page list of batteries and phones. I'd be completely fine with a thicker phone to get longer battery lfe.
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has any1 tried these batteries?
I bet the batteries are fine, it's getting the door to fit back on being the next issue.
i ordered me one
now waiting for epic battery cover
Since the battery is thicker, you could halfass the cover by simply cutting an opening in it just enough that the battery could protrude from it and still allow the stock cover to snap on. Other than it being pretty, the battery hump would stick out less than the cover that is included on that eBay Fascinate link. Or maybe you could get really fancy by cutting off the bump from the Fascinate cover and epoxy it or something to your existing Epic cover.
As I'm sitting here writing this, I'm thinking about just doing it myself...dremel out the hump and epoxy it to the Epic cover, using enough epoxy to create a smooth transition lip instead of an actual bump, light sanding to clean up the epoxy work and then wrap it in some 3M Di-NOC carbon fiber graphics while I'm at it.
The ONLY problems I've ever heard with some of the aftermarket batteries (while I was on the Samsung Moment forums) was that occasionally people would get an incompatible battery warning on their phone, but could easily be resolved with a reset. Once you get yours, keep us posted how it works out. When I first got my phone, the battery was completely dead, but I was thankful. I read random stories (which are debatable) as to if battery conditioning is even necessary or if it even matters. Either way, I put my phone on the wall charger (faster than USB via a computer) and let it charge completely. I then ran about 4 streaming music apps at once to completely kill the battery, then did a nice slow charge on the PC. While I can't say if my battery life is good or bad compared to anyone else since everyones usage is different, at least I can say I tried to condition it. My point is that I've tested the life of batteries this way when swapping between older and newer batteries on my Treo as well. Charge them till their full, run a battery intensive app (streaming for example) and timed how long it took to die. I have Treo batteries that lasted as little as 1.75hrs and as much as 3.5hrs, so naturally I keep the 3.5 in there as much as possible. You could test your current battery vs the extended battery the same way. I chose streaming as my testing of choice since I stream music while working anyways, so it wasn't anything out of the ordinary...I'd just let it go until the music stopped, noted the time and swapped to the next battery. Maybe you could do the same to confirm the difference in life between the 1500 and 2200 battery, otherwise we'll never know.
On a side note, I like this cover http://cgi.ebay.com/3000mAh-Extende...788955?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5adbfc1b1b since it thickens the whole phone vs just adding a hump. That hump would just be constanly snagging the edge of my pocket everytime, hence why I wanted to make it a smooth transitional edge like I mentioned above. Also, this battery is 3000mah, 2x the stock Epic battery. Is the i9000 the same height and width as our batteries? It'd be an even larger hump, but twice the battery...hmmmm.
One thing to keep in mind about battery ratings is that it is dependent on discharge rate. A battery discharged at 1 c will have a different and lower apparent capacity than the same battery discharged at 0.1 c. Thus a larger battery benefits in two ways. Physical size and lowering of the c rate based on the same amp draw. This is where less reputable battery makers cheat. They will put an incredibly small load on a battery to achieve a higher rating.
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So, what's your point? How does one distinguish a good battery vs a bad battery then if we're going to try and test these?
I'm waiting for Seidio to release this battery. They have an extended battery for the Evo and it gets good reviews overall, as seen here. Super expensive and makes the phone super bulky though
Why wait for Seidio and their overpriced batteries? People have been buying the extended batteries for the Moment for years via eBay, so why would any of the Galaxy S line batteries be any different for the sub $20 range?
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So, what's your point? How does one distinguish a good battery vs a bad battery then if we're going to try and test these?
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The point is that unless they are giving you a physically larger battery, not to put too much faith in the MaH ratings of batteries. Especially ones out of china with no brand to speak of. The difference between a 1500mah and a 1700mah is likely in how they discharged to to rate it.
If you can find it, the C rate on discharge is a good indicator of quality in lithium batteries. Higher C rate discharge have lower internal resistance and are made with better materials. I'm not sure how likely you are to find the full specs on a phone battery.
In a test environment its not too difficult to figure out which is which. Put a temperature probe on it, and then put a high load on it. The one with the lowest temp is probably your best battery. (same size anyways)
Assuming the 2200mAH batteries are genuine Samsung OEM, I'd love to see one get tested by the guy at batteryboss.org to see how they rate under the same test conditions as the other batteries he's tested. If they end up being real, honest-to-god 2200mAH @ 250mA discharge, that would put them right on par capacity-wise with the average, much thicker no-name nominally-3500mAH Evo/Desire/Hero batteries from eBay. 1500 definitely isn't big enough, but a real 2200mAH battery with back that's large enough to accommodate it (preferably with a sculpted, rounded profile instead of a boxy pregnant lump) might be a nice alternative to a full-blown ~2800mAH-nominally-3200/3500mAH extended battery from Seidio.
In any case, I think it's been well established by now that the "extended" batteries that are the same size, but ~100mAH larger than stock, are almost a complete waste of money. Even when they DO last 30-60 minutes longer, you seriously have to question the sanity of spending so much for so little.
That said, I suspect that most of the cheap 2200mAH batteries that will eventually end up on eBay will end up testing out at around 1500mAH.
Geekybiker said:
The point is that unless they are giving you a physically larger battery, not to put too much faith in the MaH ratings of batteries. Especially ones out of china with no brand to speak of. The difference between a 1500mah and a 1700mah is likely in how they discharged to to rate it.
If you can find it, the C rate on discharge is a good indicator of quality in lithium batteries. Higher C rate discharge have lower internal resistance and are made with better materials. I'm not sure how likely you are to find the full specs on a phone battery.
In a test environment its not too difficult to figure out which is which. Put a temperature probe on it, and then put a high load on it. The one with the lowest temp is probably your best battery. (same size anyways)
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I think I got what you mean. Either way, both the 2200mah and 3000mah battery are incrementally large than the next vs the stock 1500mah battery, so I would assume that each battery will in fact store more of a charge.
has anyone tested whether these batteries work and charge normally? If they do work, you can grab a cheap hard case on ebay for 3 dollars and cut a hole through it for the battery. It will be ugly though, unless you figure out how to make it look nice
Why don't you go on Ebay and buy yourself a good extended battery 2800 mah and use your phone for 2 full days without charging? http://cgi.ebay.com/Sprint-Epic-4G-...450945198?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f7b74ae USA supplier, great guy and has excellent customer service.
kevinjmoore said:
Why don't you go on Ebay and buy yourself a good extended battery 2800 mah and use your phone for 2 full days without charging? http://cgi.ebay.com/Sprint-Epic-4G-...450945198?pt=US_Batteries&hash=item1e5f7b74ae USA supplier, great guy and has excellent customer service.
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Or save yourself 15 bucks and get this 3500mah battery and get 3 full days without charging.
http://cgi.ebay.com/3500mAh-Extende...Accessories&hash=item3cb2c4bb14#ht_4129wt_916

Yet another Battery Review thread

Batteries were bought from these sellers:
from hk_yuqian (1800mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150541501350&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
from emmaxie126 (1500mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250755462532&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
and the stock 1300mAH battery, one month old.
from chichitec (1800mAH Evo 4G)
http://www.htcexpress.com/batteries...-battery-sprint-verizon-incredible-droid.html
Capacities were measured down to 3.1V's (well below the point where you phone will no longer power up from the battery)
Stock battery capacity = 1099mAH
Anonymous 1500mAH = 990mAH (Only 843mAH on the second)
Anonymous 1800mAH = 1224mAH
Chichitec 1800mAH = 1386mAH
As a side note, the 1800mAH battery ordered from above had a space under the sticker to fill the battery up to the full form factor of the EVO, so a real 1800mAH battery will probably fair even better.
The discharge graph is attached
Bumping this because I cant believe you put up actual test and number and no one cares to blow this up like the 10 other threads!!.. Id love to know what the 1800 will be at in after a few charges? for 5ish bux its worth it to have an extra hour or two as long as it doesn't surprise you one day and last 2 hrs.
The fact it lasts longer than the stock battery by 20% is already rather nice for just $5.
For Archive Purpose
I will test the 1800 again in a few weeks.
However it is the 1500mAH ones that I worry about with their sporadic discharge pattern.
electro_mike said:
I order a spare battery for my new-to-me Desire Z, and bought the two pack of 1500mAH ones from ebay, then saw the thread on how the 1800mAH ones fit with a little work, so I decided to order one of those.
I bought the batteries from these sellers
from hk_yuqian (1800mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150541501350&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
from emmaxie126 (1500mAH)
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250755462532&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
and the stock 1300mAH battery, one month old.
Capacities were measured down to 3.1V's (well below the point where you phone will no longer power up from the battery)
Stock battery capacity = 1099mAH
Anonymous 1500mAH = 990mAH (Only 843mAH on the second)
Anonymous 1800mAH = 1224mAH
As a side note, the 1800mAH battery ordered from above had a space under the sticker to fill the battery up to the full form factor of the EVO, so a real 1800mAH battery will probably fair even better.
If someone wanted to send me a free one I would be glad to test it!
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I bought the 1800mAH battery from that seller, and under the sticker it clearly said '1200mAH', infact I have one sat next to me atm .
Jonno12345 said:
I bought the 1800mAH battery from that seller, and under the sticker it clearly said '1200mAH', infact I have one sat next to me atm .
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LOL. Well, at least that sticker is accurate.
Chichitec 1800mAH battery results
The Chichitec battery capacity is: 1386mAH
Have you had a chance to test the mugen 1800?
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How did you test it? I wouldn't mind being able to test a battery I've got coming to me.
I based the design off of this instructable:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Arduino-True-Battery-Capacity-Tester-Li-IonNiMH/
The thing about the design is that you have to calibrate it yourself, just once, because the code used on the arduino wants to know the exact resistance value of your dummy load.
You can google some ways to get a more accurate reading of your load to get truer numbers.
But with the original htc battery testing at 1100mAH's of its 1300maH's after several months of use, I figured mine was accurate enough.
But accuracy aside, it is very consistant. I checked the new battery twice, and it gave the exact same results each time. So all the results are highly accurate when just compairing to each other.
Awesome results ! Any info on the Mugen 1800 ?
I think I have enough batteries at the moment, so i can't justify the Mugen 1800. It was fun testing them all though and knowing exactly which one was the best.
Even I thought those first two 1500mAH batteries gave the "15% better battery life" than stock. So it is nice to take the guess work out of it and know it was all in my head.

2450mAh battery for our lovely phone

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221104009277?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
I bought this battery couple days ago, and I want to see if there is some opinions about what I should expect from this battery, before I will get it and will share my own from the usage of it.
I am thinking of getting one just like that. Let us know when you get it...
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I am thinking of getting one just like that. Let us know when you get it...
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Is it the same physical size as the original battery?no need to change the back cover?
Badzoo said:
Is it the same physical size as the original battery?no need to change the back cover?
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If it's 2450mAh and the same size as the original battery, it's fake.
I've seen these gold batteries before. Often they are OEM batteries with a fancy sticker on. Don't be fooled. Run it via a battery test, or even use Spare Parts to check the capacity. Also, avoid the placebo effect, your phone might seem to last longer and because of that you think it's a good battery but it might be simply because the battery is newer; you should consider does it run better than when you first had the phone?
If "Item location: Hong Kong, China" doesn't say enough, the free shipping and outrageous capacity claim should tip you off that it's a burn. It's just a low quality knockoff battery with a flashy label.
It's a fake.
If you want more capacity you need to buy a bigger battery and the cover to contain it, there are no other options.
Cloudxxxx said:
It's a fake.
If you want more capacity you need to buy a bigger battery and the cover to contain it, there are no other options.
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That's not strictly true. You can get non-fake batteries up to 1800 mAh while still being able to use the original battery cover.
I'm using this one (Polar Cell with 1800 mAh) with the original cover:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Akku-Samsung-GT-i9000-Galaxy-S-EB575152VU-/390280069621
I don't think there will be batteries with more capacity and the same size - those are just fakes coming from China, GB...
matzehtc said:
I'm using this one (Polar Cell with 1800 mAh) with the original cover:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Akku-Samsung-GT-i9000-Galaxy-S-EB575152VU-/390280069621
I don't think there will be batteries with more capacity and the same size - those are just fakes coming from China, GB...
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I've got the same battery. It's a big improvement over the stock battery.
I'm going to get one of these batterys and try them
And if size doesn't matter you may search for a battery with a capacity between 3.000 and 3.500 mAh, changing the battery cover. But i won't buy the one from the first post...
For me that's way to thick. :silly: I also think it's ok if the battery lasts at least 20 hours - or i'll just take another charged battery with me.
Another charged battery is a good resolution too and i got a second one cuz its my second sgs+ my old had a bath but i had insurance so i got a new device

high capacity batteries

Hello guys, I wonder if you can help me at all. I have a Samsung gt-i9000 running android 4.3 at the moment . When I upgraded the OS (I was on 4.0) I have noticed that the battery life decreased dramatically, It lasts no longer than half a day. I have already changed one battery but with not much success, so
I started to look into high capacity ones. I had a look around and found a few reviews here and there but not specifically for the gt-i9000 – even this useful one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956293 . So I wonder:
1)has anybody tried one of these high capacity batteries on the gt-i9000? I looked at the zerolemon 7500mAh and the anker 52000mAh - although I don't know whether these are compatible with my phone;
2)I presume that the high capacity batteries are actually thicker than the default 1500mAh I have at the moment, so when you buy one do they come with another back cover?
duratto said:
Hello guys, I wonder if you can help me at all. I have a Samsung gt-i9000 running android 4.3 at the moment . When I upgraded the OS (I was on 4.0) I have noticed that the battery life decreased dramatically, It lasts no longer than half a day. I have already changed one battery but with not much success, so
I started to look into high capacity ones. I had a look around and found a few reviews here and there but not specifically for the gt-i9000 – even this useful one here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1956293 . So I wonder:
1)has anybody tried one of these high capacity batteries on the gt-i9000? I looked at the zerolemon 7500mAh and the anker 52000mAh - although I don't know whether these are compatible with my phone;
2)I presume that the high capacity batteries are actually thicker than the default 1500mAh I have at the moment, so when you buy one do they come with another back cover?
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Hi, I recently bought a Polarcell 1800mAh battery on Ebay which gives me half a day more juice on Galaxy running CM 10.2. I found out that all batteries above this capacity are massively thicker than the original one and do require a wider back cover. Most of these bigger ones are shipped together with a back cover.
Regarding your questions about the zerolemon, I only found batteries for the S2 and the S3 which wont fit for the S1.
not your battery at fault, sounds like you got wakelock issues. with your rom.
thanks guys.
 @zegovernator I think I need something more powerful than 1800mAh so I might need to get a bulky one. I have found this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3000mAh-B...-Extended-with-Black-back-cover-/150981110923 that seems to be good enough.
 @slybunda, thanks for your comment. If it is an issue with that, would you know how to fix it without me buying another battery?
thanks
use app called better battery stats and see the individual wakelocks I had issues with google currents and hangouts both which I don't use so I disabled them and got my full battery life back. have a look for one of my posts in the i9000 battery threads got screenshots of very good battery life
Got 1800 battery from Anker, very good.
Only charges slowly with the car adapter.
Depends on kernel and rom for how long it lasts.. Was very good using android 4.3 but recently battery was discharging fast after gapps update.
Fine again now on kitkat
Buy from Ebay 1800 in good price,I did =)

S4 Extended Battery?

Hi all,
I'm looking into getting an extended battery for my S4 so it actually last a day without needing to charge. All the ones i've have looked at so far make your phone more bulky and need to replace the back doing so.
Is there a battery out there around 3000-4000MAH that doesn't make your phone any bigger?
Thanks in advance.
There's only ZeroLemon 3000mah battery without NFC. Rest is probably fake capacity.
I have HSA 3950mah battery, it last a little longer than my old original battery (and is colder...), but still it's probably around 2600mah.
(original sometimes gets to 40*C, and biggest temperature, which i've seen, of HSA was 34*C)
KuliG said:
There's only ZeroLemon 3000mah battery without NFC. Rest is probably fake capacity.
I have HSA 3950mah battery, it last a little longer than my old original battery (and is colder...), but still it's probably around 2600mah.
(original sometimes gets to 40*C, and biggest temperature, which i've seen, of HSA was 34*C)
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That zero lemon battery is (from my own experience) a piece of crap. It's without a doubt the reason I am now talking to you from a note 4. I was forced to buy due to my s4 being fried by that substandard battery.
I know zero lemon has a good reputation but I can tell you this: that battery was discontinued for a reason. After my meltdown I opened my phone to find the battery puffed up and very warm. I then tried to put the factory battery back in. No dice. My phone would power on, then immediately power off. Not even getting past the bootloader. I could not keep it on to get into download mode or recovery. It was dead Jim
If you do manage to locate the 3000 mah zero lemon battery DO NOT PUT IT IN YOUR PHONE. I went out to zero lemon to complain only to find the battery had been discontinued. I'm betting I wasn't the only one to have this experience.
I'm just trying to save your phone man. Don't do it!! Just say no!! Or
..? I'll see you in the note 4 forums when you have to buy a new phone.
I do not know where from, but I received a 4800mAh battery as a gift a year ago. The battery isn't labeled, it is just blank and gray with hard black plastic on the top and bottom.
jacko_oafc said:
Hi all,
Is there a battery out there around 3000-4000MAH that doesn't make your phone any bigger?
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I say the same as some on before, they're probably fake ones. Currently battery technology cannot go smaller, so if you want more mAh, then physical size grows.
afrancois22 said:
I do not know where from, but I received a 4800mAh battery as a gift a year ago. The battery isn't labeled, it is just blank and gray with hard black plastic on the top and bottom.
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Nowadays I avoid these no-name batteries. I had one no-name extended battery on my SGS2, which suddenly got heated up and bulged out... luckily it did not explode in my pocket :S Also, when I measured capacity of that battery it labels as 3500 mAh, I measured around 2600 mAh...

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