Debloating Tipo w/o root - Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E

I've got an extremely bloated Xperia Tipo on Telcel that I need to debloat. The problem is, I'm not allowed to root (or maybe I would it be if it's possible to un-root)...
Is there anything I can do? Ideally having PC Companion install the latest version of ICS without any of the carrier junk.
And then, and this is grasping at straws, is there any way to access the system folder, or have titanium backup work, without root?
EDIT: Seeing there's a thread for Tipo FTFs, is it safe to say that I can flash the "generic" one instead of the "Mexico telcel" using Sony Flashtool, WITHOUT having it affect root access (ie, I can't have root...). Would that be the recommendation?

It's not possible to debloat w/o root access.
The best thing you can do is to flash a GENERIC or WORLD FTF using Flashtools [Can be found in General/Development section i believe] that has no carrier related unnecessary apps.
But for complete debloating ROOT permission is must.

Thanks a lot. I'll do that. And there's no way to un-root the device, is there, if I wanted to root it, debloat, and then lock it up again?
But installing the generic will be a great start.

You should be able to root and unroot with unlockroot. Not sure if it works on tipo though
Sent from my ST26i using xda app-developers app

Above your answer, you have to try it to confirm. Even if the above method doesn't in any case, cause i am not sure, if you need to unroot for the warranty or any service center issues, just flash the stock FTF again. Then your phone will be good as new and unrooted too.

hey man root and unroot works very fine! you can do whatever whenever you want by the program unlockroot.
also if you have doubts on unlockroot about unroot, then you can simply flash ftf via flashtool and you're good to go.
warranty remains!

c4cyro said:
hey man root and unroot works very fine! you can do whatever whenever you want by the program unlockroot.
also if you have doubts on unlockroot about unroot, then you can simply flash ftf via flashtool and you're good to go.
warranty remains!
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Excellent news. I'll start with the generic FTF and if all is well maybe there will be no need, but it's good to know I can experiment.
Thanks!

Good luck! Happy rooting
Sent from my ST23i

It worked great. I downloaded the FTF, and the loader.sin, put it in the FTF, put the FTF in the firmware folder, and now I'm running a generic stock rom.
My only question is, there's still a bit of Xperia bloat. Would it be possible for me to modify the system.sin file somehow in the FTF to remove certain apps, or is that not possible/recommended?
Thanks!

Rykoshet said:
It worked great. I downloaded the FTF, and the loader.sin, put it in the FTF, put the FTF in the firmware folder, and now I'm running a generic stock rom.
My only question is, there's still a bit of Xperia bloat. Would it be possible for me to modify the system.sin file somehow in the FTF to remove certain apps, or is that not possible/recommended?
Thanks!
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Not possible. You will experience errors in flashing then.

If you want a debloated rom then maybe you should try the ultrabeast rom.
Sent from my ST23i

you can't debloat it, but you could disable system app. it will have same effect with debloating except that the file isn't deleted, you can re-enable it anytime and no root required. most android user never know that this feature exist even though the feature is already introduced since ICS. to disable a system app you can go to setting>app. you'll see several tab. go to 'all' tab. select the app, press the disable button.
please note that some app are flagged as 'essential' and cannot disabled. you'll never could disable such app like 'systemui', 'setting' or any essential app which needed for the system. anyway, you can unroot your device with several simple tricks.
1. copy superuser.apk in /system/app to your sdcard
2. reboot the device, install superuser.apk just like any apk
if you do this step, your superuser app will be installed on /data/app and you can uninstall it anytime. if you want to completely unroot it, simply go to /system/bin (or /system/xbin - depends on the root method) and delete busybox + su (or only su) binary file. after that uninstall your superuse app. the good thing is that most staff in sony center never check the binary files. if you uninstall the superuser app they'll mostly think that your device isn't rooted and you can claim your device's service for free.

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[Q] Root CAT b10

Hello,
I need to root a CAT b10 telephone. I tried using superuser program but it didn't work. I can't find any documentation for this phone in Internet.
Do you know a method to root this phone?
Thanks.
cabrerachaparro said:
Hello,
I need to root a CAT b10 telephone. I tried using superuser program but it didn't work. I can't find any documentation for this phone in Internet.
Do you know a method to root this phone?
Thanks.
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You have to root this phone via RECOVERY. Use attached file and UPDATE FROM SDCARD.
Also you must not update (after recovery root) SUPERUSER app via android-market to newer version!!! If you'll do it, then it all comes broken. And you have to do it once again.
ninr said:
You have to root this phone via RECOVERY. Use attached file and UPDATE FROM SDCARD.
Also you must not update (after recovery root) SUPERUSER app via android-market to newer version!!! If you'll do it, then it all comes broken. And you have to do it once again.
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Hi,
I followed the instructions but I'm getting Force Close message for superuser app. Even applying factory reset.
cabrerachaparro said:
Hi,
I followed the instructions but I'm getting Force Close message for superuser app. Even applying factory reset.
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OK, that's no problem.
Attached package contains few another packages....(update.zip is the same like I uploaded here before)
1. Try to use "Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip" (this should be enough but I don't know why it isn't)
2. Reboot
3. Look at Superuser app
4. If Superuser app doesn't work then use "update.zip" once again
5. Reboot
6. Look at Superuser app
7. Now it should be working if not you can update Superuser app from market and try above procedure once again
Root this phone is really long term job. But never give up!! This phone is useless without root. I have been rooting this phone more then week.
Good luck and post if will you be successful.
just wondering since you have some experience with the phone.is there a custom rom for this phone or just the original one?

[Resolved] [Q]Need Help with Xperia Miro lost root access

Hi All,
I have screwed up my android which was perfectly fine with a perfect root. Please help me to restore the root access !!!
Here is my problem description:
I have a Sony Xperia Miro which was perfectly rooted.
Model : ST23i
Android : 4.0.4 ICS
Build : 11.0.A.5.5
The root verification using app 'root checker basic' was successful.
Now I had few of my company apps and bank apps which wouldn't work in rooted device. But I never wished to lose my root status. So I was searching for the ways to hide root access from these apps. I even came across apps exclusively built for this purpose (hidemyroot/OTA root keeper) But due to some bad comments about these apps, I decided to try manually
The idea was to fool the apps when checking the root access.
At first I renamed the super user apps at the location /system/apps. to some invalid file(super.txt)
This did the trick for couple of apps which weren't working before in my mobile. However couple of apps were still failing.
The next thing I did was renaming .su to ku in the below location /system/bin/.ext
Then I verified Root Checker Status, still it displayed "u have root access"
Then I went to /system/xbin and renamed the following.
.su to ku
.busybox to busyboxk
.dexdump to dexdumpk
Then I tried Root Checker Basic again. And got the message "device don't have proper root"
But still my apps were not working. Then I did the most foolish thing which was restarting the device.
BAM.. !!!! I lost my root access permanently. Now I don't have superuser app. And I m not able to use 'Root explorer', to rename back the files to its original state.!!! And most ironic thing is my company app still saying I have root access. I tried after deleting its cache and data. The result was same !!
How can I restore my root access ? Please help
one update
Since I renamed the superuser and superSu applications, I couldn't use them.
Today I installed both of them using package installer.
But they doesn't seem to work as they can't find su binary installed
See the attached
appviz said:
See the attached
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Do you have a Custom Recovery setup and if so did you make a backup after root?.
keifus.rahn said:
Do you have a Custom Recovery setup and if so did you make a backup after root?.
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Nope . I neither installed any custom recovery like CWM nor took any back up.
I am really feeling the need right now !!:-/
appviz said:
Nope . I neither installed any custom recovery like CWM nor took any back up.
I am really feeling the need right now !!:-/
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I hate to be the one to tell you this but it looks like your going to have to do a factory reset and reroot your device. The same thing happend to me awhile back :/ If you want to save your apps use titanium back up or app backup & restore and add a custom recovery like cwmr so if this happens agen you wont have to reroot. if you are still having problems with your apps for work boot your phone into recovery and go to advanced then fix permisions if you have any other questions or any problems just let me know.
oya dont backup your superuser and supersu on your app backup sence you renamed them redownload your superuser if it dont come with your root program that you are using. and dont use supersu unless you really need it
keifus.rahn said:
I hate to be the one to tell you this but it looks like your going to have to do a factory reset and reroot your
oya dont backup your superuser and supersu on your app backup sence you renamed them redownload your superuser if it dont come with your root program that you are using. and dont use supersu unless you really need it
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HI,
I prefer to fix the issue in the same way it's been happened. The issue occurred when I renamed the
Su binary manually. I was trying to find ways to rename it back. So here is what I am going to try...
1. Pull the files using. Adb to PC and rename and push it back to phone.
If this doesn't work,
2. Install CWM and flash the zip file to install su,busybox,superSu
If this also doesn't work,
3. Reroot the phone
Unfortunately I can't do any of this right away. I will try this as soon as possible
and tell you which method worked for me.
appviz said:
HI,
I prefer to fix the issue in the same way it's been happened. The issue occurred when I renamed the
Su binary manually. I was trying to find ways to rename it back. So here is what I am going to try...
1. Pull the files using. Adb to PC and rename and push it back to phone.
If this doesn't work,
2. Install CWM and flash the zip file to install su,busybox,superSu
If this also doesn't work,
3. Reroot the phone
Unfortunately I can't do any of this right away. I will try this as soon as possible
and tell you which method worked for me.
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:good: Plz do. I should have thought about pulling them. Im writing a guide on adb and didnt think about that lol guess my brain is fried from 18hr shifts and coming home and getting on here lol. But any ways after you pull them just replace them with new files insted of renaming them it would be less of a hassle. I would still install cwmr on your device
keifus.rahn said:
:good: Plz do. I should have thought about pulling them. Im writing a guide on adb and didnt think about that lol guess my brain is fried from 18hr shifts and coming home and getting on here lol. But any ways after you pull them just replace them with new files insted of renaming them it would be less of a hassle. I would still install cwmr on your device
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Solved the issue Finally !!
I was trying to pull the renamed files to PC(Windows Xp SP3) using adb. But I find lot of trouble setting up adb in Sony Xperia Miro. I updated my device by using Sony PC companion. Still couldn't get my device detected in the command 'adb devices' . Then tried to update google usb drivers. It didn't work at first, but I could install google usb drivers after changing android_winusb.inf file to include my device ID.
But even after I could get my device show up in command 'adb devices', I couldn't pull/push files. For some strange reason, my device was disconnecting continuously and each time I have to stop adb.exe process and restart to get my device connected back. And I finally gave up in the process.
Then all of a sudden it clicked me that why don't I use terminal emulator installed in my phone. But the biggest road block was to get root access. Root access will be given if you execute 'su' command in 'adb shell' . But I renamed the su binary. what do I do!!
Then I decided to give it a shot that executing the renamed binary !! (I had renamed su to ku). So I simply gave ku in adb shell. whola!! It worked. I got root access.
All I need to do was, change the permissions (using chmod) and rename the files back(I used root explorer) to correct names.
And I am done I got my ROOT BACK !!:good::victory::victory::
Later I updated my su binary and all is well in my device now. And what more, I found way to get my company apps work in my rooted mobile. I installed OTA rootkeeper and temporarily disabled root. Guess what it was still not working.
Then I tried my old stupid trick again (together with OTA temporary unroot). Rename SuperSu in /system/app .
And it worked !! But I won't be stupid again to reboot my device with this settings. And even if I did accidentally, I know what to do.. !!
Thanks everyone...
appviz said:
Solved the issue Finally !!
I was trying to pull the renamed files to PC(Windows Xp SP3) using adb. But I find lot of trouble setting up adb in Sony Xperia Miro. I updated my device by using Sony PC companion. Still couldn't get my device detected in the command 'adb devices' . Then tried to update google usb drivers. It didn't work at first, but I could install google usb drivers after changing android_winusb.inf file to include my device ID.
But even after I could get my device show up in command 'adb devices', I couldn't pull/push files. For some strange reason, my device was disconnecting continuously and each time I have to stop adb.exe process and restart to get my device connected back. And I finally gave up in the process.
Then all of a sudden it clicked me that why don't I use terminal emulator installed in my phone. But the biggest road block was to get root access. Root access will be given if you execute 'su' command in 'adb shell' . But I renamed the su binary. what do I do!!
Then I decided to give it a shot that executing the renamed binary !! (I had renamed su to ku). So I simply gave ku in adb shell. whola!! It worked. I got root access.
All I need to do was, change the permissions (using chmod) and rename the files back(I used root explorer) to correct names.
And I am done I got my ROOT BACK !!:good::victory::victory::
Later I updated my su binary and all is well in my device now. And what more, I found way to get my company apps work in my rooted mobile. I installed OTA rootkeeper and temporarily disabled root. Guess what it was still not working.
Then I tried my old stupid trick again (together with OTA temporary unroot). Rename SuperSu in /system/app .
And it worked !! But I won't be stupid again to reboot my device with this settings. And even if I did accidentally, I know what to do.. !!
Thanks everyone...
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That's Awesome :highfive: I'm glad the hear that you got everything working correctly and with your company apps too. :victory:
Thank you for sharing with me and everyone. You never know if some one out there is having the same problem and this could really help them out one day.

replace kinguser with supersu

somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
dewagame said:
somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
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Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
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hI! I try on my HUAWEI ASCEND G6 and... dont work ... is possibel that an update that Kinguser had done make it impossibel?????
I root with RootGenius_en, was ok, kinguser ask for a update, done. But Now i whant to change do SuperSu and dont work. I had permissions and every thing...
Help! :crying:
Me too
I'm trying to do this too, but I aint sure how to do it. I mean I guess if its not super necessary I can leave it the way it is. Tried this method and its a no go. I don't think the KingUser SU is letting superSU update its binaries. I already have twrp, but not sure what next. If its not necessary I'll leave it alone, but I was just wondering if theres any reason to change over or if it could even be done.
P.S This way never worked for me as superSU can't get past trying to install the binaries. I got twrp so I'm wondering if I'd have to flash it. Nothings wrong on my end are anything, but I just assumed having superSU would be better then kinguser but not really sure.
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
Must vary from device to device cause I've did all that, and it gives the message "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again" and if kinguser is removed in superSU when trying to update/install the binaries it says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root- consult the relevant forums for your device."
This aint the g6 though but this thread is the kinguser replace with superSU thread. So I thought I'd post in it.
washichi said:
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
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Install SuperSu rom magazin play.
Then instal rom lite box.
Open the app, and uninstall kinguser
easy, and it`s working.I just deleted kinguser 2 mins ago
Hum
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
freestilesteve said:
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
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Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.
No worries bro. Probably varies depending on how you root from device to device.
Its not your fault. No worries. I'm just thinking it varies from device to device and how you actually go about rooting . I'm also thinking that maybe if I rooted with another app/prog that it would have been easier to switch from king user to superSU. I use lookout premium security on my phone and kingroot and king user have never been flagged with any viruses so I've just left it on and running the way it is and so far so good. Other then the two errors I mentioned in the previous post king user/kingroot has been working good. I'm sure if I did a whole restore/wipe/clean and root with another program there might be a possibility to remove king user and replace with superSU but in the end I just decided to roll with king user/kingroot as I didn't feel like doing al that and its been doing its job fine.
QUOTE=andruala;58880236]Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.[/QUOTE]
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
The earlier versions of Kingo Root were much better
jidanni said:
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
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Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
Indeed. What is needed is for someone to take a vanilla phone into a cleanroom, install the mess, and report back on exactly what ended up getting put where, in order for somebody to make a "kinguser detox/.antidote" APP and/or shell scripts that would clean the mess totally back off.
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
satine01black said:
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
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Why did you need to root with kingo if you have custom recovery?!
I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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Oh. I wasn't angry at you Was just asking.
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
satine01black said:
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
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You can, but it doesn't really make much sense to.
Use Eroot, then try superSU installation
CVAngelo said:
Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
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I had the same issue with my mobile, (Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray (ST18i)), I then rooted my phone with EROOT Software which installed a superuser app, then i got the .apk file of SuperSU via Bluetooth from a friend and installed it. one has to grant permission when it asks for superuser rights, then updating binary files is no longer a problem. It also asks for removal of the Superuser-app that was pushed through the EROOT software, you do that. Then I installed link2SD and link2sd pro key from google play store and converted the SuperSU app into a system-app. Now SuperSU is working perfectly again.
You both should try it!!

[Q] Temp Unroot needed for NowTV . --- (A) This has now been Answered in Post 9

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Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56539897&postcount=9 for the Answer
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Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
Disable Superuser in SuperSU settings.
zoro25 said:
Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
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Or if you are on a Cm nightly you can turn them off in the developer option
Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
Outside of the nightly wing if you want stability use the M releases, they are designed to be more stable than the nightly branch
zoro25 said:
Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
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The problem isn't really the SuperSU as such, it's CM. They flag CM as a rooted ROM, it'll even happen if you're on stock un-rooted CM11S.
Transmitted via Bacon
I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
skyguy126 said:
I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
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As per my post right above yours, it isn't SU that's the problem, it's that the ROM is CM.
Transmitted via Bacon
Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
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So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
zoro25 said:
Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
****EDIT****
So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
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This is just a theory... may be wrong:
Can't you move the SuperSU app into /system/app instead of /data/app. Or does the NOWTV app have perms to check the integrity of /system also. Or can you change the app id of the SuperSU app with a simple decompile tool.
I did that while using cm11s. But still had problems trying to watch skygo. In the end I had alter my buildprop to a phone which supports skygo as at the time it didn't support oneplus one. Then full unroot etc to watch then root back to get root access again.

Ways to Root your Samsung Galaxy Tab 4

Ways to root your Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 7.0​All of the guys on the list is tested by me and it's working
For those guys who can't root their tablet, this thread is the right place for you
1. This is the Easiest Way to Root your tablet
KingRoot App Download it here
http://www.appsandroidapk.com/apk/kingroot-v4-6-2-apk-file-for-android/
Download the app
Before installing it Go to Settings > General Tab > Security > and Enable "Unknown Sources"
Install the app and Root your phone.
You might wanting to have a SuperSU instead of kingroot's SU
Google it SuperSU Me Download the latest version or you can find it here in this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/supersu-please-t3110954
Update the SUBinary
Reboot
2. KingoRoot App apk version
Download Link
https://root-apk.kingoapp.com/
Download the app
Before installing it Go to Settings > General Tab > Security > and Enable "Unknown Sources"
Set your device atleast 10 minutes before sleep due to inactivity
Install and Root your Device
Do nothing while rooting "Like tapping or bringing down the notification bar" this is why i make you set the 10minute-sleep
1st/2nd attempt might fail but on the other hand it will succeed
You might wanting to have a SuperSU instead of kingoroot's SU
Google it SuperSU Me Download the latest version or you can find the link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/supersu-please-t3110954
Update the SUBinary
Reboot
3. Root Using TWRP (old)
Requirements
TWRP link is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3128455&d=1421957427
Important: Odin3 v1.85 Direct download Link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=581913
PC
On your pc Open Odin3 v1.85
Click PDA and choose the tar file that you've downloaded
Tick Auto Reboot and F. Reset time
Now go to your device, Boot into download mode ( Power it off wait until it vibrates then press Home,Power and Volume Down Simultaneously)
Plug your device into your Computer (Install drivers here's the link http://www.mediafire.com/download/o3exocwabcxax3b/SAMSUNG_USB_Driver.exe)/ Some Pc install drivers automatically just wait them to install or if you already install the drivers skip driver installation procedure)
Click Start if the Odin detects your phone, your phone will automatically reboot
Now Boot your phone into Recovery Mode by (Turning it off and Press Power + Home + Volume up)
It will boot into TWRP
Press Reboot > System and it will ask you if you want to get root and swipe it to install
Update SuperSU and make another reboot
You can also update your TWRP using this zip file
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347818249
Now if you really can't root your tablet and you're desperate, try another version of your stock firmware, you can find your stock firmware on Google, after that do this procedure again
Done.
Other Links to make your tab Rooted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3111934
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tab-4/help/twrp-install-twrp-root-samsung-galaxy-t3095736
Developers that has credit on all of this
@BRoy_98
@pinksworld
@gatesjunior
and sorry if i haven't mentioned the others, i dont know who to give credits
SORRY SOME OF MY ENGLISH IS REALLY BAD
Yay another one, I think this is the fourth of this same exact thread
You might want to mention how kingroot/kingoroot send your personal data to Chinese servers and the twrp builds you linked to only work fur the SM-T230, SM-T230NU, and SM-T231, and will not work for any of the several other Tab 4 7" variants
Just imagine that I just put all those threads together ahaha: )
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Yay another one, I think this is the fourth of this same exact thread
You might want to mention how kingroot/kingoroot send your personal data to Chinese servers and the twrp builds you linked to only work fur the SM-T230, SM-T230NU, and SM-T231, and will not work for any of the several other Tab 4 7" variants
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I dunno if that issue is real, but no worries we have supersu me
thisisapoorusernamechoice said:
Yay another one, I think this is the fourth of this same exact thread
You might want to mention how kingroot/kingoroot send your personal data to Chinese servers and the twrp builds you linked to only work fur the SM-T230, SM-T230NU, and SM-T231, and will not work for any of the several other Tab 4 7" variants
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I dont think that if you install first supersu me and then kingroot your tab, after root turn wifi off and use supersu me, no data sent to anyone........ anyways it doesnt send your passowords etc to china, just like browser data and few app datas.... but theres no way to get passwords.... all are crypted or hidden well in smali
thelous said:
I dont think that if you install first supersu me and then kingroot your tab, after root turn wifi off and use supersu me, no data sent to anyone........ anyways it doesnt send your passowords etc to china, just like browser data and few app datas.... but theres no way to get passwords.... all are crypted or hidden well in smali
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I wouldn't be sure about that. If you type in your password, once rooted, anything can easily capture the keyboard input and log it or send it out. Let me elaborate. It's like the guys who say, "Hey I have a firewall installed so it cannot communicate out." Yeah, o.k., so all the firewalls do is manage IPTABLES, so if I am an application and have root access, I can do what I want to avoid your firewall rules quite easily. Just a thought.
Hmm, updating the binary will remove the @#$%&* thing , we're just going to use the app to root our phone, and I guess wiping cache and dalvik is necessary
BTW tab 4 is best for gaming because of it looks and size but due to a stupid Samsung company, 1.2ghz + vivante gc1000 expect lagging, I hope some kind hearted will make a custom kernel for overclocking this tab.
BTW There's no Tex plugin on gltools, installing default will not work, so you have to find a cracked version of gltools, well if you do that... R.I.P expect force closes
gatesjunior said:
I wouldn't be sure about that. If you type in your password, once rooted, anything can easily capture the keyboard input and log it or send it out. Let me elaborate. It's like the guys who say, "Hey I have a firewall installed so it cannot communicate out." Yeah, o.k., so all the firewalls do is manage IPTABLES, so if I am an application and have root access, I can do what I want to avoid your firewall rules quite easily. Just a thought.
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Well i didnt say anything about firewalls i was daying if you manually disable wifi and use king root, it wont be able to connect anywhere to send any data.... also you can search by date and time files made during root session and remove everything to prevent any keyloger to work
Have ODIN and a stock image ready!!!
Be careful with this root process! The sm-t237p 5.1.1 OH7 boot loops and won't hold the root or Philz recovery... Yet!:cyclops:
thelous said:
Well i didnt say anything about firewalls i was daying if you manually disable wifi and use king root, it wont be able to connect anywhere to send any data.... also you can search by date and time files made during root session and remove everything to prevent any keyloger to work
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No. I can easily change the file and date stamp to match any given system file you already have so that it is not easy to find. Also, Kingroot will not run correctly and root your device properly if it cannot contact it's servers to download the proper exploit for your device. Now, if you are talking about disabling wifi only so that Kingroot cannot contact it's servers after you are rooted, well, if you use any data what so ever, it can use that same data connection. As an example, I have to have data of some type to login to my bank site, etc..
SM-T237P Specific maybe others with PhilZ recovery...
Root Success! Check this out... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64182938&postcount=15
gatesjunior said:
No. I can easily change the file and date stamp to match any given system file you already have so that it is not easy to find. Also, Kingroot will not run correctly and root your device properly if it cannot contact it's servers to download the proper exploit for your device. Now, if you are talking about disabling wifi only so that Kingroot cannot contact it's servers after you are rooted, well, if you use any data what so ever, it can use that same data connection. As an example, I have to have data of some type to login to my bank site, etc..
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Well, atleast my bank account cant be logged with different ip and if its tried i recice message wheres code that you need write to bank website to access account.... however i havent lodt any accounts yet after rooting with kingroot, it has so manynusers that they cant check all information they recive, just like facebook and whatsapp... (they're spying watnu do but they have too many users so it would take like unlimited time to check all accounts and keybindings thru.....
K94U said:
Root Success! Check this out... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64182938&postcount=15
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You can use any kind of cwm to flash a zip file that can root your device, This was an alternative way, just find a cwm to flash hehe
Siegharf said:
You can use any kind of cwm to flash a zip file that can root your device, This was an alternative way, just find a cwm to flash hehe
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Flashing recovery trips KNOX (no warranty or OTA updates) and the other method sometimes doesn't... Also, the recovery/zip method stopped working on lollipop and marshmallow with the older SuperSU builds but... Chainfire has a new BETA SuperSU 2.6X that is a systemless root and now working on the newer Android builds using the recovery/zip method. This seems to work for mostly ALL Samsung and Nexus devices... Read about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
I restored my nandroid backup in recovery just to try this on my sm-t237p lollipop and it worked the first time!!! All apps get root access OK except es file explorer(now bloatware anyway)... You might need to install busybox for things to work... :good: :laugh:
K94U said:
Flashing recovery trips KNOX (no warranty or OTA updates) and the other method sometimes doesn't... Also, the recovery/zip method stopped working on lollipop and marshmallow with the older SuperSU builds but... Chainfire has a new BETA SuperSU 2.6X that is a systemless root and now working on the newer Android builds using the recovery/zip method. This seems to work for mostly ALL Samsung and Nexus devices... Read about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
I restored my nandroid backup in recovery just to try this on my sm-t237p lollipop and it worked the first time!!! All apps get root access OK except es file explorer(now bloatware anyway)... You might need to install busybox for things to work... :good: :laugh:
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There's kies or custom ota flashing
K94U said:
Flashing recovery trips KNOX (no warranty or OTA updates) and the other method sometimes doesn't... Also, the recovery/zip method stopped working on lollipop and marshmallow with the older SuperSU builds but... Chainfire has a new BETA SuperSU 2.6X that is a systemless root and now working on the newer Android builds using the recovery/zip method. This seems to work for mostly ALL Samsung and Nexus devices... Read about it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
I restored my nandroid backup in recovery just to try this on my sm-t237p lollipop and it worked the first time!!! All apps get root access OK except es file explorer(now bloatware anyway)... You might need to install busybox for things to work... :good: :laugh:
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235 LTE 5.1.1 rooted as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64255121&postcount=1
(not spamming in case anyone got the idea)

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