Related
Hello!
I recently sold an android phone to buy my HTC sensation. Now, I cleaned off my phone to a bare cm7 installation, booted it up once to make sure it was working, and shipped it to the buyer.
The buyer then contactedme to say that the phone won't go past booting screen. Shesaid tthat herattempts to flash a rom have-not worked. She has requested I email her my backups to see if the phone will work again.
Does this scenario make sense? Is there any way that my rom backup wouldn't actually be the solution? How much of a risk is it if I share it with her? (Personal info etc)
I was thinking I should offer to pay shipping and fix it myself, then send it back.
What do you all think?
Sorry for random post, but I would really appreciate the advice.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App
Nixit12 said:
Shesaid tthat herattempts to flash a rom have-not worked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like she doesn't know how to flash a rom. Send her a guide how to properly flash a rom.
Not good idea. I agree, send her instructions on how to install a ROM it shouldn't be hard.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710a using XDA Premium App
Editing the backup
Hello,
Your could take the clockworkmod backup folder,
1. Copy your backup folder to your desktop
2. Remove all but the system.img, boot.img, and md5 file
3. Edit the md5 file by removing the unneeded lines(leaving only system and boot)
4. Send them that. When they restore it will restore the system and boot only, no personal info.
This is all at your own descression though, just do whatever you are comfortable doing. The cache.img, data.img, and android_secure.img all have personal information in them so keep that in mind for the future.
Rsotbiemrptson
i say fix it yourself so that no information of yours is out in the wild
Thank you all for your replies I think I will do as rsot suggested and remove all of those files.
Short of not sending them, does anyone else have a suggestion to maintain privacy?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App
If you flash a rom and don't set anything up why would any of your personal info even be in there? That's what I would do. Talk to her on the phone and guide her through a flashing.
Sent from my Htcclay's SuperSense 4G using XDA Premium App
Oh wait...you don't have the phone anymore. Look around on the phones forum and see if someone has posted a bare nandroid backup.
Well I've thought a little bit more about this and I have one real question remaining:
What advantage, if anything, does giving her a nandroid backup (or any backup) have over her flashing the ROM? Is it easier to do successfully? Why would it succeed when her attempt at flashing a ROM didn't?
Also, I am googling, but if anyone knows where to find a bare nandroid backup, pleeeeease link me.
Thanks again everyone.
Why would you want to spend so much time on editing a nandroid backup.
It's much saver to give her a link to cm7 and a proper guide on how to flash the rom
Well, I don't want to give her a ROM backup of mine (not even edited). She claims to have knowledge of how to do CM7 and other ROM flashings properly, but that it is not working.
She is the one that requested the ROM backup (which is fishy to me in the first place). I have a suspicion that the intention is to get my personal info (and that was the goal from the start) which is why I hesitated at her request and decided to ask this forum about it.
The only way it would make sense to send one to her is if it was more likely to work or easier than CM7 flashing and safe for me. But I don't see how it could be easier or more likely to work. Plus, I checked to make sure the phone worked before I sent it, so it either bricked on the way or this is an elaborate phishing scam. (imho)
Gah, just don't want to have to deal with it.
Just curious... what phone did you sell her that had CM7 on it, and why are you posting it in the Sensation forum... just because you now own a Sensation? LOL
Anyways.... What phone is it? Give her an xda url on how to revert to original ROM or something, and yeah, she screwed up herself, don't send her any of your nandroid backups of that old phone, just say you didn't backup your nandroid for it since you no longer have the phone.
And if she can't figure it out still, have her mail it back to you, and go ahead and just revert it back to stock and mail it back (all at her expense).
nxt said:
Just curious... what phone did you sell her that had CM7 on it, and why are you posting it in the Sensation forum... just because you now own a Sensation? LOL
Anyways.... What phone is it? Give her an xda url on how to revert to original ROM or something, and yeah, she screwed up herself, don't send her any of your nandroid backups of that old phone, just say you deleted it since you no longer have the phone.
And if she can't figure it out still, have her mail it back to you, and go ahead and just revert it back to stock and mail it back (all at her expense).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To be honest I did post it here because this is the forum I spend the most time in. i figure the loophole is that this applies to any such scenario (It doesn't really apply any more to the Vision forums, because this is an issue about Backup ROMs) Theoretically, I could have the same issue if I had sold my Sensation or any other phone.
Anyway, thanks for the advice everyone!
DiZzle. said:
Why would you want to spend so much time on editing a nandroid backup.
It's much saver to give her a link to cm7 and a proper guide on how to flash the rom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This... Any half ass competent person wouldn't want your nandroid backups. Send her a link to cm7, and call it a day. If she needs help with installation, help her out.
The bottom line here is that you sold her a working phone.
Can you clarify with her that she booted up the phone with the "bare-bones" CM7 installation that you put on it.?
If she did so, then this is the limit of your (sellers) responsibility.
What she does with the phone after this point is her responsibility.
It is splashed all over every ROMs threads first post that the dev takes no responsibility if you brick your phone etc
I would be a nice guy though - find out what she tried to flash and give a little support to her as others have suggested.
After all, thats what the community is all about... Right??
I'm sort of new to the world of Android. Got my first phone a week ago, and since then have learned to root it, flash new roms, plus a whole lot of other tricks all thanks to this site. So thank you all collectively for that. There is however one question I do have and I'm having a hard time finding an answer to. If this has already been answered, please excuse this thread. It wouldn't be for lack of looking but rather lack of understanding.
Since rooting my phone (an HTC inspire), I've tried a bunch of different roms, just seeing what's available. I've been hearing a lot about Nandroid backups, titanium backups, etc, and while I am having a bit of difficulty with the finer points of the terminology, that's not really my problem. The thing is, when I first rooted my phone, I did no real backup of anything. I used the ace hack, rooted it, then went right to the Icecoldsandwich rom, with nothing saved. Now, I'm not worried about having something to unroot my phone (I don't have a warranty or anything, so there is really no incentive to). I am curious if there is another reason I would need a backup. I understand that the idea is that a nandroid backup is to have something to recover to should my flashing go awry, but if I don't have a lot of personal data on my phone is it really a concern? If the flash goes bad and I say, lost everything, could I just flash a different rom that I know works and start from scratch? Or do these backups save something deeper in the system that I might lose if I'm not prepared? If so, is it worth doing one good backup now that I've already lost the stock rom, or am I SOL? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
.
Thread moved to Q&A due to it being a question. Would advise you to read forum rules and post in correct section.
Failure to comply with forum rules will result in an infraction and/or ban depending on severity of rule break.
My mistake. Sorry to start off on a bad foot
ALWAYS backup, just because you succefuly flashed a rom and things are going smooth you WILL run into problems. Example: you flash a rom with no backup and the rom is very buggy, so what now? Find another rom to flash that may not be good? I keep 2 backups on my SD card, one original backup and another backup that has mods or alot of valuable info, apps, mods, etc...so if I flash and don't like the out come I can restore to my 2nd backup. when I first joined here I didn't even no what nandroid was, by that I soft bricked 5 phones that could of been avoided if I backed up (I learn the hard way). Also soft bricks and hard bricks can be avoided if you use nandroid backup
EDIT: In your case I would find a very stable rom and make a backup of it, so now you have a good backup if something happens, since you didn't make an original backup (its not the end of the world) its just wise to make an original backup for future use, if you don't like it on your SD cause it takes to much space copy the file to your PC, just don't rename the title
NookColor Cyanogenmod 7.1 "Overclocked"
Can you clarify for me what you mean by "Don't change the title"?
I took your advice and did a backup with clockworkmod. I did, however, change the title from the default clockwork title. Will this cause issue?
Last time I changed the title name on the backup file it wouldn't let me restore
HTC Wildfire S VM "S-Off" "Rooted" Stock Rom
The reason why you shouldn't change the name is quite simple. Some directoriesand paths in backup/ recovery refer to THAT certain backup name. So if it can't be found then it crashes.
U learn somethin new everyday
HTC Wildfire S VM "S-Off" "Rooted" Stock Rom
First off love the N00b video at sign up that was hysterical, nice work to whoever made it.
Ok on to what I need to know:
I understand HOW TO root/flash a rom, my issue is kind of different than most peoples. I have scoured the web and this site for the files I need to accomplish this with my GT-P3113 build ending in LG5 however I am confused to hell.
1 place will say that CWM 6.0.1 is not usable on my device, another will say that it works fine and another will say to use TWRP (which might I add looks cool to use). Some will say that I need the expresso_wifi file to root my device, others will say use update.zip, and others will say a totally different file all together.
I know what ROM to get, I understand the steps:
Download drivers
Boot to download
use odin to install CWM
back up everything with CWM (which goes to the MicroSD I am guessing? since I wipe the device in a later step)
wipe the device
wipe the cache
wipe the Dalvik cache
flash the rom
flash the root
is all that correct? (just to make sure I got it right) so my biggest question is, which files do I really use? There is a thread from back in June before the 4.0.4 update OTA came through) saying to use instead of that if you have LG3 or etc.
Help would be greatly appreciated, I am a smart guy, just want to have my facts straight before I make this happen.
PS sorry if this is in the wrong place, figured this was the best place for it.
Please be sure and thank the person who decides to do your homework for you.
:laugh:
FlynnErik said:
First off love the N00b video at sign up that was hysterical, nice work to whoever made it.
Ok on to what I need to know:
I understand HOW TO root/flash a rom, my issue is kind of different than most peoples. I have scoured the web and this site for the files I need to accomplish this with my GT-P3113 build ending in LG5 however I am confused to hell.
1 place will say that CWM 6.0.1 is not usable on my device, another will say that it works fine and another will say to use TWRP (which might I add looks cool to use). Some will say that I need the expresso_wifi file to root my device, others will say use update.zip, and others will say a totally different file all together.
I know what ROM to get, I understand the steps:
Download drivers
Boot to download
use odin to install CWM
back up everything with CWM (which goes to the MicroSD I am guessing? since I wipe the device in a later step)
wipe the device
wipe the cache
wipe the Dalvik cache
flash the rom
flash the root
is all that correct? (just to make sure I got it right) so my biggest question is, which files do I really use? There is a thread from back in June before the 4.0.4 update OTA came through) saying to use instead of that if you have LG3 or etc.
Help would be greatly appreciated, I am a smart guy, just want to have my facts straight before I make this happen.
PS sorry if this is in the wrong place, figured this was the best place for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From someone relatively new to this as well, this is basically correct. Here are some tips from someone who has recently done it.
Make a backup.
Research the files you intend to flash, make sure they are right for your device
Verify the guide you are using has been tested and known to work.
This may seem elementary, but I didn't follow #3 and it cost me a lot of headache un-bricking my SGT 2.
ryphil said:
From someone relatively new to this as well, this is basically correct. Here are some tips from someone who has recently done it.
Make a backup.
Research the files you intend to flash, make sure they are right for your device
Verify the guide you are using has been tested and known to work.
This may seem elementary, but I didn't follow #3 and it cost me a lot of headache un-bricking my SGT 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Fully agreed! That's why I came to the experts. I have done my homework but the thing is my homework leads me to several different files from before the ICS update. There has only been 1 thread on 1 forum that has been post ICS update, and no real feedback on it. I think I even found one that uses ADB (I understand that concept, but would prefer not to use it since I don't know Linux well enough).
I would love to know what files to use, which ones to stay away from. As I said I have the concepts, I have the understanding, its the actual files that I want to verify, I can rattle off tons of files from tons of sites, but they may or may not be correct (and may have the same name as a correct one but still be incorrect, ie "update.zip" appears a few times on different threads from different time frames).
There is only post in the teamhacksung CM10 wiki that was last edited 8/12/2012, but that could have been anything that was updated, not the files/links to be used.
So I thank you in advance for your help, and you will certainly get a thank you in the forum for help you are providing, I always give credit where credit is due.
Well here goes nothing, going to reboot (to ensure the Kies drivers are installed and loaded into the system 100%), and try the instructions from this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788625
It seems to work for most, the only concern I have is that I have a different end to the build than most others do (and I am not sure why?)
Did I screw myself?
I rooted, and have CWM installed.
Is it to late to create a ROM backup of my device for when i go to install CM10 (I need a drink for now, so I might install it tomorrow night lol).
That link I posted in the last post is good to go if anyone else needs a safe bet set of directions.
Seriously though, I didn't do a backup, am I screwed now?
EDIT: I just did a back up and it said no sdcard/.android secure found, skipping of backup of apps
and
no sd-ext found skipping backup of that.
is that normal? Did it backup to my microSD?
Still hope I didn't screw myself by backing it up after rooting.
Hello! I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge.
First of all here is my phone info
Rooted RAZR maxx hd with unlocked bootloader (XT926)
My main objective is to flash custom ROMs and see if any are better and faster than stock.
My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing. I can't seem to find any threads that are simple enough for me to understand what I need to do and in what order I need to do those things.
Supposedly I need to back up my phone which seems to be the same thing as having a recovery???
If there is a thread that simplifies backing up and using a custom recovery please post a link.
I don't understand how to back up my phone, or if I use my computer or phone to do said back up.
I don't understand how to use the app ROM manager, my phone isn't listed on it when I try to download clockworkmod. So I downloaded a file cwm.img and I don't know what the heck to do with it?
I think I have adb on my computer?
I'm so confused and there's too much information and it makes no sense to me. Can someone please help me or post links to SIMPLE walk throughs of what I need to do and tell me what order I'm supposed to do them in?
I'm sorry if you think I haven't searched because I've been searching for a long time over a few days and all I've found is information that is too complex for me.
I appreciate any help! I'm new and I don't want to hurt my phone.
boost4life17 said:
Hello! I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First of all here is my phone info
Rooted RAZR maxx hd with unlocked bootloader (XT926)
Mine is a Razr HD (XT925) But it's mainly the same except roms and some tools (and probably some other things I don't know...)
My main objective is to flash custom ROMs and see if any are better and faster than stock.
Which is the idea I had a week ago
My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing.
I was exactly in the same position since this is my first smartphone ever ^^
I can't seem to find any threads that are simple enough for me to understand what I need to do and in what order I need to do those things.
Well I had to search a while cause I first of all wanted to backup the most I could before doing anything.
Supposedly I need to back up my phone which seems to be the same thing as having a recovery???
This is a good thinking But there are limitations on what you can do without making the first thing which is rooting your phone "and then unlocking it".
If there is a thread that simplifies backing up and using a custom recovery please post a link.
I don't understand how to back up my phone, or if I use my computer or phone to do said back up.
The first thing I could do, was to backup the Apps/Contacts/etc... by using some apps like : MyBackup
The thing is : these applications are limited until you are rooted, because you wont be able to save apps data like your game scores or whatever
The second way to backup, is to make an entire backup of your system and data, which can only be made after unlocking the bootloader (by installing a custom recovery).
Be careful, unlocking your bootloader will ENTIRELY WIPE the data you have so make backups BEFORE.
I don't understand how to use the app ROM manager, my phone isn't listed on it when I try to download clockworkmod. So I downloaded a file cwm.img and I don't know what the heck to do with it?
Not sure about it because I never got that app before unlocking my bootloader.
I think I have adb on my computer?
To get adb on your computer, you need Android-SDK.
I'm so confused and there's too much information and it makes no sense to me. Can someone please help me or post links to SIMPLE walk throughs of what I need to do and tell me what order I'm supposed to do them in?
If you need more infos, dont hesitate to ask me on your post Ill subscribe to it in case of
I'm sorry if you think I haven't searched because I've been searching for a long time over a few days and all I've found is information that is too complex for me.
I can understand, personnaly im working in IT and I understand how this can be a pain when you have no knowledge at all on that subject :/
I appreciate any help! I'm new and I don't want to hurt my phone.
Once again, good thinking, but even thought, going where you are going is very risked.
And I can tell...because I nearly bricked my phone...as you can see here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2631547
boost4life17 said:
Hello! I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge.
First of all here is my phone info
Rooted RAZR maxx hd with unlocked bootloader (XT926)
My main objective is to flash custom ROMs and see if any are better and faster than stock.
My problem is I have no idea what I'm doing. I can't seem to find any threads that are simple enough for me to understand what I need to do and in what order I need to do those things.
Supposedly I need to back up my phone which seems to be the same thing as having a recovery???
If there is a thread that simplifies backing up and using a custom recovery please post a link.
I don't understand how to back up my phone, or if I use my computer or phone to do said back up.
I don't understand how to use the app ROM manager, my phone isn't listed on it when I try to download clockworkmod. So I downloaded a file cwm.img and I don't know what the heck to do with it?
I think I have adb on my computer?
I'm so confused and there's too much information and it makes no sense to me. Can someone please help me or post links to SIMPLE walk throughs of what I need to do and tell me what order I'm supposed to do them in?
I'm sorry if you think I haven't searched because I've been searching for a long time over a few days and all I've found is information that is too complex for me.
I appreciate any help! I'm new and I don't want to hurt my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Start
Use Recovery Tools from play to flash your fav img.
TWRP check my Problems post in HD gen. Pocket proof, easy
Not pocket proof:
CWMR be careful of the double touch conformation!-you can use the keys til you are versed w/ the input flukes that inspired Philz recovery. Otherwise solid & simple.
I use Philz which may support everything in Rom Manager soon.
RM works w/ Photon Q recovery works on all the msm8960 phones, xt907, 925, 926, mb886. keys only.
All recoveries
Just because you can format it, it still may not be supported in the backup or even the xml restore (/persist)
edit
Get a SANDISK 64 GB CARD, FORMAT FROM RECOVERY to default format-fat32. Then when in doubt BACKUP.
All for now
bye
No offense intended, but if it's too difficult for you, than you probably shouldn't touch the phone until you understand everything. Before you start modding, you need to know how to recover it so we don't have another brick. Once you start to understand the minor things, it will be like a light switch and the more complex things will start to make sense.
Hybris95 said:
First of all ..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Be careful, unlocking your bootloader will ENTIRELY WIPE the data you have so make backups
>>>>
This only happens on a moto factory UL.
Not the one for the xt907, 926 & mb886.
I do believe a 925 can save themselves the bother of the factory path if they do not mind it being not reversible. Yet both are irreversibly noticeable.
aviwdoowks said:
Be careful, unlocking your bootloader will ENTIRELY WIPE the data you have so make backups
>>>>
This only happens on a moto factory UL.
Not the one for the xt907, 926 & mb886.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry about that I thought XT926 were close enough from XT925 (which is the only device I own) to have the same unlocking process.
My bad ^^
well if you're already unlocked and rooted, use this
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_xt925
follow the instructions, go to the development forum, download TWRP, CWM whichever floats your boat, and just use adb and fastboot.
id reccomend a backup, nandroid, titianium, etc.
djvita said:
well if you're already unlocked and rooted, use this
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Install_CM_for_xt925
follow the instructions, go to the development forum, download TWRP, CWM whichever floats your boat, and just use adb and fastboot.
id reccomend a backup, nandroid, titianium, etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is post # 5 true for you & your 925 unlock?
Thanks
RikRong said:
No offense intended, but if it's too difficult for you, than you probably shouldn't touch the phone until you understand everything. Before you start modding, you need to know how to recover it so we don't have another brick. Once you start to understand the minor things, it will be like a light switch and the more complex things will start to make sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is an excellent point. When I first got into this a couple of years ago, I soft bricked my Bionic. I was able to recover it, but I could have avoided the problem if I had read a little more first. Now I read, read, read before trying something new. I found YouTube videos very helpful when I was a noob. Rootjunky is one resource, online and on YouTube. rootjunky.com
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
aviwdoowks said:
Is post # 5 true for you & your 925 unlock?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes i supposedly backed up with cwm, but the last time i got in that option, it did not find that backup.
at least there is a firmware superthread, but my cwm is for 4.4 only, so id have to flash another cwm to go back to stock jb
i find a titanium backup to be better, just backup my sms/calls, wifi keys, and user apps...
RikRong said:
No offense intended, but if it's too difficult for you, than you probably shouldn't touch the phone until you understand everything. Before you start modding, you need to know how to recover it so we don't have another brick. Once you start to understand the minor things, it will be like a light switch and the more complex things will start to make sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No offense taken! I appreciate the constructive criticism. That is why I posted this question. I am reading all I can and I won't be attempting anything more until I understand the concepts. I just didn't know where to go for a more simple explanation of these concepts since apparently I'm not as intelligent as 90% of you guys on this forum!
I have already rooted and unlocked my phone so that's a good start haha. I will now follow the advice given in this thread and hopefully learn enough to understand these more complex concepts!
I appreciate everyone's information and responses!
Thanks ya'll
Jess
Good to hear you've placed these flammers where they have to be ^^
Anyway Nice job on what is done, the hardest and risky is still to come :/
Envoyé de mon XT925 en utilisant Tapatalk
its easy, the scripts i used are noob friendly, most important part is to backup your info!
djvita said:
yes i supposedly backed up with cwm, but the last time i got in that option, it did not find that backup.
at least there is a firmware superthread, but my cwm is for 4.4 only, so id have to flash another cwm to go back to stock jb
i find a titanium backup to be better, just backup my sms/calls, wifi keys, and user apps...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
???
Cwm=Cwmr?
Recovery is made for phone not any particular rom.
I'm glad you didn't take offense. Just keep learning, you are off to a good start.
Sent from my Droid RAZR MAXX HD using xda app-developers app
Basic rundown, I bought an HTC One M8 on tmoblie yesterday, coming off an iphone 4. I've heard you have have have to root your android devices, so that was one of the very first things I did. Shortly after, I was trying to figure out exactly what I could do with the root, and decided to flash a custom ROM. I tried the Google Play edition posted on the dev section of this same forum. Everything worked as planned, except for one huge problem: my data no longer works. I can connect to wifi fine, as well as send texts, but no 4g lte access anymore. Idk if this is a common problem, if I'm doing something simple wrong, etc. I made a backup in TWRP, and saved it to my desktop, and tried restoring my phone to see if that would help, but I must have dne something wrong there too, as it doesn't show any files when I try to restore under TWRP.
I would greatly appreciate any and all help or tips. I'm new to the android rooting scene and should have taken it more slowly. I thought I had done sufficient research, but I guess I ****ed the pooch somewhere along the way. Thanks in advance.
watchmuu said:
Basic rundown, I bought an HTC One M8 on tmoblie yesterday, coming off an iphone 4. I've heard you have have have to root your android devices, so that was one of the very first things I did. Shortly after, I was trying to figure out exactly what I could do with the root, and decided to flash a custom ROM. I tried the Google Play edition posted on the dev section of this same forum. Everything worked as planned, except for one huge problem: my data no longer works. I can connect to wifi fine, as well as send texts, but no 4g lte access anymore. Idk if this is a common problem, if I'm doing something simple wrong, etc. I made a backup in TWRP, and saved it to my desktop, and tried restoring my phone to see if that would help, but I must have dne something wrong there too, as it doesn't show any files when I try to restore under TWRP.
I would greatly appreciate any and all help or tips. I'm new to the android rooting scene and should have taken it more slowly. I thought I had done sufficient research, but I guess I ****ed the pooch somewhere along the way. Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try the Tmobile M8 forum