Greetings people!
Yesterday I got this message while booting up my TP (latest official ROM):
"The device is unable to boot because either you have turned off the device incorrectly or tried to install an application from untrusted source. Press END to reset your device or press any other button to cancel. This operation will delete all your personal data and restore the device to its factory default settings"
However apart from that message, phone works flawlessly without any noticable change in speed or stability! The only apparent problem is that it takes a while longer (about 10 seconds) to boot up because of that message. I tried a couple of backups, problem was solved at first, but returned later...
I do take daily backups, but since I hardly monitor my phone when I reset it, this problem could have been caused by an app or reg entry a while ago... and searching for the appropriate backup will be a pain in the ass.
Since there's no change in speed or stability, do you think it would be wise to keep using the phone as is, or is it possible this would cause further problems down the road?
Any other way to troubleshoot it (at least to find the program that's causing this) other than a hard reset?
Edit: couldn't wait so I reverted to a week-old backup, installed back most of my applications, and it seems to be fixed (for now)
Update! I just tried a new SD to try XDAndroid, and guess what, the error disappeared!
So there must be a program I had installed in the storage card, possibly trying to start a service or something on every reset... and failing.
Is there a way to troubleshoot this? Maybe through SKTools or anything similar? I have a ton of apps installed into storage card and it will be a pain in the back cover to try by trial-and-error.
Thank you in advance
edit: inserted my old storage card again, error did not appear, problem solved! At least for now
Still if anyone knows how to troubleshoot this, please let me know
Update: Seems this error occurs every time I use SPB backup.
Yesterday, after a scheduled backup, the error came back. To troubleshoot this, I removed the SD card, did a soft reset, the error was gone! I took another manual backup, and again, the error came back.
So there must be something happening with SPB Backup and my SD card. Probably messing with files on the SD, or the driver or whatever (no idea there, I'm a total noob when it comes to software).
Moved the issue to the SPB forum
I have this message to, but I have never used SPB Backup
Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
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Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
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Well I tried that just to see what would happen and I did not get the error message. So it is something on the SD card, but booting without it is not an option for me as I have several boot-start apps that are housed on it.
Perhaps one of those apps is broken?
As far as my case goes, I kept on using it for three months after the error appeared, without noticing any lag or issues at all. The only downside was that it took me three minutes to boot up, something I got used to.
If that's no big deal for you, I'd suggest you just leave it as it is for now, and check for lagging or specific applications failing (maybe one of them will be the app that's causing the problem?). If nothing happens down the road I think it could be safe to leave it as it is.
Now, if you can't stand this, I guess the only practical solution would be a hard reset. You can always play around with removing/reinstalling those apps you mention (or even better, installing them in the phone's memory) to check if and which one is broken, but I can understand that this not only will be a huge burden, but you may come to the conclusion that no specific app is causing this and something went south in the OS.
Personally the only apps which include a boot-up service I have installed into my SD are Football Monitor and PocketWeather. I tried removing both of them them back when I first had that issue, it didn't work...
Sorry I couldn't help more :/
Hi!
First thread, but have been on this forum a lot lately, since I finally got around to rooting and getting my Hero to run Cyanogen! If there's a similar post, I am sorry to double it, but I have not found anything that relates to my issue so far.
The problem I have is minor, yet still annoying. Whenever I get around to charging my phone, which is at least once per day, I have to use the USB port since I lost the wall-plug months ago. This in itself has never been an issue since I put Cyanogen on it. See, after I remove the cable, my SD-card won't remount automatically, causing all my photos etc. to be invisible until I manually unmount and mount it through settings.
This is especially annoying since the ringtone app I use puts the ringtone in a folder on the card whenever it's downloaded. Charging the phone thus hides the file away in a foul place, and causes me to have to redo the entire process of downloading and all that.
As a follow-up to this, I have two questions:
1) Is there any way of solving this easily, or did I do something wrong while putting Cyanogen on my phone?
2) The data that becomes inaccessible, is it still on the card taking up space, or is it deleted?
I might add that I tried turning USB debugging on and off. Also, I noticed that this issue seems to be quite spontaneous with everything except my ringtones. Photos, for example, sometimes show up no matter what, and Spotify-files are always accessible. Could it be an issue with the app?
Thanks guys!
I guess I've been fortunate I have never had all the issues with system dumps and force closings some others have had the misfortune to experience. My Tab has been rock steady for months.
I have been good about cleaning everything up before installing new ROMs.
Today that all changes. Tab went completely discharged and after hooking back up to the charger, it now loads into forced closings on every app and launcher.
I can see all my apps in the main dir and under apps settings, but none will run and the Tab is in a constant cycle of force closing.
I think it had something to do with letting the Tab run completely dead?
I know I can wipe all the data and repartition to correct, but damn I have a ton of user data and apps on this baby and if there was a way to correct this problem, Ie replace a file, that would be a much better solution.
So if anyone has had the same situation with constant force closings, let me know if you figured out a way to correct without starting from scratch.
Thanks, [email protected]
What ROM are you using or is this on stock?
Have you attempted clearing cache and dalvik using CWM?
The ONLY thing I can really think of optimistically speaking is that the force closings are somehow caused because your SD card may not be loading/loaded properly - ie: maybe theres a file system error or something? Apps that load from it or depend on files loaded/loading on it would FC, of course the fact that you say nothing can run may indicate a more dire problem....
The worse case scenario is that the flash drive inside has been corrupted somehow - but I highly doubt that. I've seen other people report constant FCing before, so your problem, if not the SD issue, is probably somewhere in the middle - where your file system got messed up somehow but no hardware is damaged.
I've had mine discharge on me many times with no issues whatsoever.
I tired a few of these already, but I haven't tried pulling the SD card. Thanks!
Is there any permanent fix for this issue?
I know about the clearing Media Storage data, etc. But that doesn't fix this issue for more than a week.
I read this thread, but that sounds way outside of my comfort zone of tweaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1847586
Is this the only way to keep this from happening, or is there an alternative? I know this issue comes up a lot, but I haven't seen anything posted recently on this topic, and I wanted to ask about the Skyrocket model in particular.
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I'm running the latest stock ICS from AT&T/Samsung on my Galaxy SII Skyrocket. I had previously had my phone rooted and tried various other GB/ICS/JB builds, but had the same duplicate media bug with those, too.
Edit: Can I avoid this by running all my media off the internal storage on the phone? This option is not ideal, but beats having to reset my phone/ringtones 2 times a week.
Does anyone know ANY way to prevent this? I had totally factory reset my phone about 1 month ago and wasn't having this issue until recently. Now it's to the point where it duplicates my files after every 2 or 3 reboots. It's ridiculous. I find it odd that this problem is so common, yet I cannot find a way to prevent it from happening after nearly every reboot.
Is it an issue with ICS? Or it something Google has acknowledged? I'm open to anything, guys. Suggestions, hypothesis, even conspiracy theories.
Hey gang -
Yesterday at home I pulled my phone out of my pocket and it was at the "touch the Android to begin" (!) screen. But it was still connected to my WiFi... And I was confused.
Rather than do that, I reset the phone, wiped Davlik cache and Fixed Permissions (took a long time!), then rebooted.
That sort of worked, but a LOT of my apps are crashing on start, and others are missing altogether. Even when I re-download them and re-install them, they don't work.
What's the way-ahead here? Am I stuck doing a factory reset? Or even formatting the SD card?
Thanks in advance.
When things get that fouled up, a clean install over a freshly formatted microSD is probably the best thing to do. You might be able to get away with restoring from a "nandroid" backup from before things started going bad, but "Your mileage may vary."
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When things get that fouled up, a clean install over a freshly formatted microSD is probably the best thing to do. You might be able to get away with restoring from a "nandroid" backup from before things started going bad, but "Your mileage may vary."
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Okay, thanks!
Anything else on the SD card I should back up besides DCIM / Media-> Ringtones/MP3s / "ui" / TitaniumBackup?
(Got about an hour while this stuff goes off to my HD...)
Hoo! Thought I effed myself for a sec - from CWM I was wiping all partitions... including /sdcard.
Then I realized... $#¡+... my ROM is on there!
Fortunately CWM has the "mount USB storage" option.
*whew!*
I was going to add format the sdcard from the phone. But you did that. Typically when what happened to you would happen to me it would be from some app updating and for whatever reason got corrupted during install and fouled the phone up. If you use TiB I highly suggest setting a automated task to back up your TiB backups to drop box, google drive or box.net. Then in these situations you have a recent TiB to fall back on.
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Hey gang -
Yesterday at home I pulled my phone out of my pocket and it was at the "touch the Android to begin" (!) screen. But it was still connected to my WiFi... And I was confused.[...]...a LOT of my apps are crashing on start, and others are missing altogether. Even when I re-download them and re-install them, they don't work.
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Hi JaimeZX,
I am curious if you have recently rooted, flashed to stock, or installed the VB or Basic w/a twist kernel? I am running the exact same setup as you list (minus the modem) and this *exact* same scenario happened to me on the exact same day. March 12th, at about 10pm.
Detail as much information as you can, I've had many problems since flashing back to stock, formatting the SD, wiping everything multiple times, and re-installing Valhalla Black, Basic w/a Twist and all fresh apps d/l'd from the market. I'm on multiple attempts to stabilize the device and have questioned whether or not there is some issue with either the Rom or the Kernel. Perhaps there is an issue with the stock packages, or the USB driver ghosts (I've deleted all USB assigns at all ports and reinstalled for device detection in Heimdall). Hopefully we can get a good list of information to help us fix an issue that is apparently quite catastrophic (in that /data seems to corrupt) and save others from a future headache.
I have searched the dev threads to no avail, and as a general rule it seems that if problems are brought up they are usually met with "try flashing back to stock," "gremlins," "no one else is having problem 'X'," etc. even in cases of users with multiple complaints of the same issue. Both the DSP Sound force close upon EQ preset select and the issue that some had with the Messages, Phone Dialer, Search, Call Logs closing to homescreen are issues that I've seen this with. I believe this is a real issue, and I need to get it fixed without wasting time on messaging replies to anyone advising "try this," "Try that," etc.
My hope is that between the two of us we can address any of the common responses from developers before taking the issue to them and reporting it. I personally cannot today get my phone to boot without freezing (after boot cycle completes - not bootlooping or freezing during the bootleader seq) and am currently attempting to get into d'l mode without much luck.
When this happened to me on Tuesday night I was able to reboot to recovery, reflash the final-fixed.zip first without wiping data (which failed-/data is corrupted somehow here) and then *with* wipe/data and it booted, ran fine, so I then re-flashed BasicWithaTwist Kernel and was fine until late last night again.
I had been using the phone for some fairly constant web searching and the screen went black, appeared to soft reboot, and then froze. I pulled the battery, waited a few mins, reinstalled battery, once again, Freeze after boot.
No indication that an app crashes, phone just completely freezes, remains screen on, capkeys lit, power button does not respond, nor do softkeys or touchscreen. Makes it though the scan device and scan SD processes *sometimes* and other times freezes before it completes them.
I pulled the both the SD and the SIM and booted up, same issue, though it makes it through the scan device processes everytime since it's not scanning 18gb of data on an SD. This tells me it is not SD or SIM related, and is most likely software related, either ROM or Kernel. I've also ruled out the possibility of an old app/data package by reformatting the SD (long format - wipe all containers to "o,") let Android rebuild menu structure on SD, redownloaded a short list of commonly used apps and installed fresh - *NO* TiBackup apps were restored and the actual backup folder was not replaced to the SD after flashing.
I've tried both the Odin (Fb KJ6 back to stock) and the one click (lumin's tutorial) back to stock. Checked the download of Final-Fixed, MD5 checksum is correct. Cannot find MD5 on the sms-T959V-KJ6-antsvx.v1.1.3.zip file. Doesn't seem to be listed on Anton's github site, perhaps I don't know how to find it there. That is the only puzzle piece I haven't double checked.
All for now, looking forward to yours or anyone's replies or suggestions for anything I may be overlooking. Thanks.
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Hi JaimeZX,
... I've had many problems since flashing back to stock, formatting the SD, wiping everything multiple times, and re-installing Valhalla Black, Basic w/a Twist and all fresh apps d/l'd from the market. I'm on multiple attempts to stabilize the device and have questioned whether or not there is some issue with either the Rom or the Kernel....
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I should add that I have been on Valhalla Black Edition since it was in beta and have been quite happy with it. I only did a back to stock flash to try to (one more time) see if I could get a cooperative DSP sound manager. No such luck, and now a few headaches, and this issue on Tuesday coupled with yours in the exact same timeframe...I'm just thinking there is a problem somewhere in the chain of attack and hope to find it with the help of others.
Also, phone freezes after boot, needless to say, I'm not able to run a logcat.
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No indication that an app crashes
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Also, phone freezes after boot, needless to say, I'm not able to run a logcat.
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Try running logcat > /sdcard/some_file and cat /proc/kmsg > /sdcard/some_other_file so you have a capture of both the Android logs as well as the kernel logs. If you're not comfortable with command-line work, aLogrec should be able to at least help with the Android logs.
Given the number of people successfully running stock and custom ROMs on this device with stability, it either is going to be a hardware problem with your phone, corruption of a file system, or some app or combination of apps you are running, not a "dev" issue. Without logs, it is going to be nearly impossible to differentiate between the causes.
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Try running logcat > /sdcard/some_file and cat /proc/kmsg > /sdcard/some_other_file so you have a capture of both the Android logs as well as the kernel logs. If you're not comfortable with command-line work, aLogrec should be able to at least help with the Android logs.
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I will try in a bit, collecting files for another fresh install, different ROM.
jeffsf said:
Given the number of people successfully running stock and custom ROMs on this device with stability, it either is going to be a hardware problem with your phone, corruption of a file system, or some app or combination of apps you are running, not a "dev" issue. Without logs, it is going to be nearly impossible to differentiate between the causes.
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This is false logic and is just what I was trying to avoid. I will attempt to explain to hopefully help build a stronger environment that is conducive to problem solving. It still very well could be a dev issue if say, a certain ROM or Kernel begins to wrestle with an app that has recently updated. Is it the apps or the rom's fault? Maybe it is a seldom used feature of an app that just missed all the users testing until now, it's well within the realm of possibilities and would just like to see helpful comments (such as the first portion directly above) to help solve issues. Truth is, I don't know *what* is wrong and neither do you, so a focus on constructive commentary would just help everyone out.
Logs or it didn't happen.
Update...
After a factory reset/data wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache I had to let the battery charge for a bit. Came back and decided to just try to boot phone, still freezes after boot sequence. I decide that I will flash a different kernel and a different ROM in order to see if I can make a difference. Before flashing Blastoff v2.5 Kernel I decided to factory wipe/data wipe, wipe cache and dalvik again...I am not sure if this is news, but when doing the Dalvik cache wipe in CWM it returned no result, perhaps because I had previously performed and is empty, but I thought it strange that there was *no* communication that it was already empty/wiped, etc.
Installed Blastoff v2.5 and was able to boot without freezing. Something else was damaged with the Rom as well, would not load home screen, only had pulldown menu. Rebooted to Recovery and flashed Unnamed RC-2.zip and have been charging the battery, talking on the phone and reinstalling apps from market.
Same error happened twice to me and once with Jaime. Both of us on VB and Basic+Twist. After installing new kernel i'd point towards kernel. Also uninstalled DSP and installed voodoo sound on VB, but had that on previous version as well. If I had to start somewhere, I'd start right around there.
Hope this helps, will provide logs from SD backup I made before reflash of new kernel/rom. Gotta run. Adios...
-devil.
I had to get my phone going today, it appears to be working without freezing, though on this new app the phone dialer/phone caller force closes on outgoing calls (I am only mentioning here, I will visit the Q&A for the ROM if I need assistance). Unfortunately I was unable to replicate the problem without flashing back to my previous nandroid. I have it saved and given some time I will do my due diligence and get a logcat **if** Jaime doesn't do it before me...because I kinda have a feeling that something was updated in the market on Tuesday evening that is now fighting with the kernel somehow. But again...I didn't run a logcat so it's not even happening...yet...
...to be continued...
Devlin - sorry for the delayed reply.
I did notice that I'd had more and more apps FCing on me in the week leading up to the Über-crash. Unfortunately I don't have any more "background" to add than that.
I backed up everything I wanted on the SD card and then formatted that, plus /data, /system /everythingelsethatwasanoptioninCWM. Then did my installs.
FORTUNATELY (knock on wood) I have not had any recurrence of the major issue.