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Question for you all. Is there an easier way to transfer files over the the GTAB then having to pop out the SD Card and put it into an adapter and then into the computer and then out of the computer, out of the adapter and back in the GTAB?
Because every time I mount the USB, it only mounts the "internal" SD Card. Is there some sort of way to get it to mount both the internal and external SD Card?
I hate messing with the external SD Card. All the "popping in and out" makes me nervous.
I even tried mounting the internal SD Card and then copying the movies/music/etc.. over to the external SD Card via a file manager... but that is DAMNNNNN slow.
I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
That's exactly what I am worried about. LOL
I can just picture not paying 100% attention and snapping the card in half or, breaking the "locking" mechanism that holds the card in place.
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I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
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If you have ADB, can you do adb pull or push?
Jim
My workaround has been to use the LAN tab in ES File Explorer to copy data wirelessly to sdcard2. Probably not the speediest method but it keeps the card in place.
The techie/hacker solution to easy file transfer is to use the Rsync for Android app in the market store. Once you have it setup, (not the easiest thing to do) it works great for moving files automated from your gtab back to an rsync server (my linux box to the rescue). I even have a secondary profile to get it to reverse rsync a specified directory FROM my linux box to my gtab. Presto -- easy file transfer via wifi!!!
Also, another idea might be to use Dropbox?
Jim
P0RT3R said:
My workaround has been to use the LAN tab in ES File Explorer to copy data wirelessly to sdcard2. Probably not the speediest method but it keeps the card in place.
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I do the same thing. It's mighty slow, but it works.
roebeet - an idea that almost worked - maybe you know why?
roebeet said:
I haven't found a way (yet). Given that neither the zPad or TnT stock builds work, I'm thinking it's not that easy to do. Drives me nuts as well because I really don't want to keep taking the card out over and over and potentially damage it, over time.
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Hi,
You all got me curious, so I just tried the following:
- Created a dir under /mnt/sdcard, /mnt/sdcard/mymnt
- Get temp root (z4root)
- Start terminal
- su
- mount -t vfat /dev/block/vold/179:17 /mnt/sdcard/mymnt
At this point, I can access the sdcard2 by using /mnt/sdcard/mymnt or simply /sdcard/mymnt.
So, I disabled USB debugging, and I get the popup asking if I want to activate USB transfer (I'm on 3452, on earlier TNT firmware, it use to say enable USB storage).
I click the button to Activate, and then another window pops up, and I click Activate.
Then, the popup just stays there, with the spinning thing. It never enables USB transfer, and, on my PC, I see the removable drive, but when I click on it, it says it's not ready.
I've also tried umounting /mnt/sdcard2, thinking that it might be confused because of the two mounts to /dev/block/vold/179:17, but it still does the same thing.
So:
- It looks like I can mount the /dev/block/vold/179:17 (the external microSD card) under /mnt/sdcard, and
- When I do that mount, I can see the contents of the external microSD card in terminal under /mnt/sdcard/mymnt and under /sdcard/mymnt, but
- For some reason, turning off USB debugging/activatiing USB transfer fails.
Maybe someone can figure out why activating the USB transfer fails. If we can figure that out, then that would allow seeing the external microSD card via the PC USB interface.
Jim
I think it would need to mount both volumes -- the internal SDcard and the external SDCARD2 -- separately...
Using a mount (reparse) works internally since they are on the same device -- but if you try to mount SDCARD externally it doesn't understand the reference to SDCARD2
My phone actually mounts to the computer as two drives -- one for internal (SDCARD) and the other for external (SDCARD2)
I'd assume there is a way to have something similar work on our gTablets...
I'll have to slap a spare microSD card into the tablet to try though...wondering if teh INF needs to be tweaked as well (??)
From what Ive seen or experienced, Cyanogen was the only rom that Had the Sd card and Sd card2 Thing fixed right (with exception of having to plug in the Power cord before mounting). Evrey other Rom seems to have problems. But Cyanogen has way too many other problems so I use Vegan since to me it seems the most stable :s
Yeah -- my phone is running a fork from Cyanogenmod 6...so the code is shared
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I think it would need to mount both volumes -- the internal SDcard and the external SDCARD2 -- separately...
Using a mount (reparse) works internally since they are on the same device -- but if you try to mount SDCARD externally it doesn't understand the reference to SDCARD2
My phone actually mounts to the computer as two drives -- one for internal (SDCARD) and the other for external (SDCARD2)
I'd assume there is a way to have something similar work on our gTablets...
I'll have to slap a spare microSD card into the tablet to try though...wondering if teh INF needs to be tweaked as well (??)
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That's the problem... When the Gtab is plugged into the PC USB (while USB debug is disabled), only one new "drive" appears, corresponding to /sdcard on the Gtab. There is no 2nd drive appearing on the PC corresponding to /sdcard2 on the Gtab.
I've been looking at my Windows configuration, with the Gtab plugged in, and the one drive that appears shows up under "Portable Devices" branch in Device Manager. The properties show that it corresponds to "wpdfs.inf", and looking through that, it looks like a generic USB Mass Storage configuration, i.e., a USB drive.
I still think that something would need to be fixed on the Gtab end for the two drives to appear on the Windows end.
Jim
app fix
I have found a workaround for the issue with the installation of a single app:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12299831&postcount=2
Depending on what you want to do, an FTP solution is also possible as discussed in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=869844
By using swiFTP, I am able to open a connection through a Win7 windows explorer, and I can drag-and-drop files to SDCARD2 (over a wireless connection). I put a 1Gig movie on the card and it took about 12 minutes.
Another option is to use Multi Mount SD-Card. This is link is for the lite version, there is also a paid version.
This app works outside the embedded SD Card Mounting scheme that comes with Froyo.
With this you dont have to press the "Mount USB" button that comes up in the notification bar when you attach the USB cable. Instead it will auto-mount the either the internal or the external SD Card when you plug in the cable.
(Having configured the setting of your choice before hand).
Unfortunately it can not mount both at the same time.
It works with my GTAB and I'm using VEGAn 5.1 Beta.
(Without the 5.1.1 Suppliment patch)
Folks are still struggling with this?
Use a USB flash drive, I do it all the time. Just a regular, boring, Windows FAT-formatted flash drive.
Wow it is amazing that this problem still exists.
I am a new owner of a Gtab and have had it for less than 2 days. Thank goodness for the many informative posts on this site, that have helped me make my new toy almost perfect.
I updated to 3588, installed cwm and titanbackup, vegan5.1.1 including the suppl patch and even learned how to tether it to my Samsung Captivate. The one thing that was annoying me was my device not seeing the 16 gb microsd card that I had inserted both in the gtab and on my pc.
After reading this thread, it looks like I am not going crazy, but it seems like my device is destined to not acknowledge this addtional storage in it's settings?
I really was hoping to use the external card for videos and my mp3 collection, so I am missing something or did I do something wrong to make this happen?
I would appreciate any comments or suggestions since this is the only thing that I need to get squared away before I install more apps(with the possibility and ever present threat of having to re-install something I may have already done)
I could not post this question in the dev section since I do not have enough posts to allow me to.
Thanks
Tina
So, I have a USB hub and a couple flash drives. Everything "works" fine. I say it like that because the hub functions fine, and the first drive you plug in mounts to /usbdrive just fine. The issue is with the second. When you plug in the second drive, Android sees it in /dev/block as sdb1, and using the Terminal app I can manually mount the drive and use it.
Ideally though, it'd be nice if there was a way for Android to see the second drive and automatically (dis)mount it to something like /mnt/sdcard/external. Is this something that can be configured in the system?
What about the way Android detects and mounts an initial flash drive currently? Does anyone have any knowledge of how that's working currently? Perhaps that could just be duplicated to work with a second one?
This might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952456
I'm not sure that's quite right. From what I'm seeing, that tool is designed to let you mount existing media on your device in a way that makes it available to a PC. I'm just wanting the tablet to mount a second USB drive so that it's available on the device itself.
Hi all, I've been waiting and searching around seeing if I was able to find any kind of fix or something for some time now but it's beginning to get to me far too much.
My problem is when I had the HTC Aria I used to have the audio stored on my phone and plug it into my car's USB connection and the headunit would search the device and find all audio to play through the headunit which I was then able to use my controls on the steering wheel. After some time I bought the Samsung Galaxy S2 (l9100) and to my excitement received the whopping 16GB internal storage as a bonus, so I filled that. And heres where my problem comes in, I cant seem to make my headunit search the internal storage and play all that music, It will only search the SD card (external).
Now from reading all over the internet I've been led to believe by any posts that relate somewhat to this that it wont be possible for this to work, what frustrates me though is that it is possible. I've rooted and flashed various custom ROM's to my device (VillianROM first, Cyanogenmod Nightlies second and now MIUI yesterday). I have successfully had the headunit read my internal (newer and more songs) upon connection twice that I can recall now, I think the first time was after first connection to the car after the cyanogenmod flash and today when I first connected it again. Which led me to believe that it was working and then was just applying a new theme on my phone while hanging at a friends then was taking another friend home and plugged it in and back to only reading from my SD card (external - old crap music) and can't figure out why it has worked twice if it is not possible.
The reason why I am determined to figure this out is due to 16 GB internal storage and only 1 GB external storage and I wish to use my phone to its full potential.
While I'm at it, I guess I should mention my other problem which adds to my determination to get the USB connection working with my car. The USB connection is a much clearer & louder playback (Higher quality) then the AUX (current alternative) and to be safer while driving by using my steering controls.
But since flashing to Cyanogenmod and MIUI (cannot recall whether I had this problem on VillainROM) I've noticed the volume in headset mode (when I have something plugged into the headphone jack - ie, AUX, etc) and I begin turning up the volume from quietest to loudest it get notably louder each press until halfway or a press before halfway and then does not become any louder, which I also think may be making the audio less clear and loud when connected via AUX to my car.
Thanks in advance to anyone whom contributes.
I am usually stubborn enough to sort problems out myself, but for the first time I am asking for help on a community forum.
Anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?
If you need to know anything else don't hesitate to ask.
CM7 volume is a known issues or least it was last time I checked.
Try turning on/off usb debugging is my best guess.
Done that, today at some point it randomly read my internal storage and right now I'm constantly reconnecting it with no success.
The frustration continues as it is obviously possible but appears to have a mind of its own.
With my little knowledge when it comes to android and their platform, is it possible it could be there mount priority of the storage or the internal having something stored on it such as an app that could be in use by the phone which could be preventing the drive from being read?
what the hell... I have the exact OPPOSITE problem.
With my headunit its been only mounting the internal storage, but most of my music I put them in the external since I got a 32gb card!
Could it be mounting the smaller sized storage first? =P
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Actually it should be easier to do it the way you want it to (i.e mount internal only)
just unmount the sd card via the android settings -> storage -> unmount
and once it is unmounted, connect the usb to the car.
The catch is of course if you wanna use the external again you have to manually mount it via the settings.
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I have seen a very similar problem and I feel like I can reproduce it.
I've got a 2010 Hyundai Tucson - it has a USB/aux port in the dash console and can accept anything that can be mounted as flash media, flash drives, ipods, etc can all play back music using the Nav display to browse and playback files from the device.
The stereo plays back music perfectly through both my wife's old and new phones. An original MyTouch 3g and a MyTouch 4g. She's had no problem mounting and reading the files from her internal storage. She can playback music on her phone, the car even remembers her place and resumes where she stopped a song.
I, on the other hand, cannot easily get the car to playback files from my older or newer phone. I started with the original android, the HTC Dream/TMobile G1 then later upgraded to a Samsung Galaxy S 3g/TMob Vibrant. What's the difference? I've run modded android OS on my phones and my wife has not. I had been running CM5 and later CM6 on the G1/Dream until I retired it. Lately I've been using a MIUI mod, Lithium 360, on the Vibrant.
When I plug in to the USB on the car, the phone gives me the mount prompt and the car begins searching for files. Eventually both fail to make any progress.
I've tried many fixes including turning on/off USB debugging, I've tried wiping Dalvik cache, Wiping regular cache, I believe I even did a factory reset, flash zip, full re-install on a road trip just to see if I could get the car to read my files. What I did discover is that the problem is simply not hardware related. I could boot to recovery and use clockwork to mount USB storage. Files were seen instantly and played back fine. However, this doesn't do me any good as I can't really use the device for anything else (safety first ) and not to mention that there's no way I want to run the phone with the screen on for hours. I know there are simple workarounds here. But carrying an aux/patch cable is an extra hassle, and since my phone can hold enough data for my average means, I often don't remember to bring a flash drive with me everywhere. Besides, the USB cable in the dash does double duty, charging while giving access to files.
To be fair, I've only used CM based mods (according to wikipedia, MIUI is somewhat based on Cyanogen) on my phone and have not tried out any other android software. I don't know if that's a connection or not, but it's the only lead I have right now. There's got to be something different about the USB settings in the OS itself compared to stock Android. Is there an apk file one could flash and test somehow?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=617333&highlight=car+stereo
This thread is above seems to be describing the same problem. This however appears to be an aftermarket stereo.
[Q] After mounting it *immediately* dismounts
Connecting to a Samsung TV (USB debugging ON and clicked on USB Storage until it turns from green to orange) and then browsing USB (Menu => USB device) it mounts the USB ("Android 11GB" which is presumably the internal SD) and then dismounts within a second and restarts initializing. An ordinary USB stick (single file system) does mount.
Is this because the Galaxy S2 mounts two file systems at a time and the TV cannot handle this. Is there an app which only mounts ONE filesystem on the Galaxy ?
I installed CM10 for the Galaxy Tab 10.1, and although I understand this is an early release, I have problems auto-mounting USB disks on my tablet. I used to connect the USB key to this USB adapter from Samsung, and boom! I have the storage displayed to me. But now, with CM10, I have to run a utility that will actually mount the USB device to a mounting point, like /sdcard/usbmount/ so that I can then access the card. Is this something normal, or was I spoiled by Samsung and taking this auto-mount for granted before ?
I also noticed that before I installed the Google Apps ZIP file, I could not do anything like this before. At least, now the USB port seems to work.
Thanks for any feedback on this.
First I have to say mounting a usb stick over a otg cable is no problem.
THe problem I have is that when I mount a usb stick the first time it mounts to usbstick_1.1.1.
Al right till then, but when I disconnect the stick and want to mount it again, no chance!
I need to reboot then it works again.
When I mount the usb stick with stickmount pro i have a other issue.
It mounts then to /sdcard/usbstorage/sda for the first time.
But when i disconnect the stick, the next time I connect it it mounts to sdb and so on.
I need a FIXED mount point for programs like spotfiy.
I need the music database on the same place when i conenct my meenova so the app can find the stuff.
Anyone has a solution for this?
THANKS!
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First I have to say mounting a usb stick over a otg cable is no problem.
THe problem I have is that when I mount a usb stick the first time it mounts to usbstick_1.1.1.
Al right till then, but when I disconnect the stick and want to mount it again, no chance!
I need to reboot then it works again.
When I mount the usb stick with stickmount pro i have a other issue.
It mounts then to /sdcard/usbstorage/sda for the first time.
But when i disconnect the stick, the next time I connect it it mounts to sdb and so on.
I need a FIXED mount point for programs like spotfiy.
I need the music database on the same place when i conenct my meenova so the app can find the stuff.
Anyone has a solution for this?
THANKS!
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Sorry, no solution, but I have the same problem, see my posts here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48267845&postcount=34
I am also having the problem since I have rooted and tried several apps, like StickMount, etc.
Mounting is fine, dismounting not good, requires a re-boot to mount again.
I am blaming the OTG cable I have, from a China Tab i got, works perfectly on that tab though.......
Let me know if you find an answer, OK!!
Do you have the meenova, btw??
There does seem to be mixed results from USB OTG on the G
I can mount, unmount, remount fine but write no.
Others can mount, remount & write
Others can't even remount.
I'm not sure it's the hardware, as when I tried my cables on a HTC One it would write no problem, but on the G it didn't want to know.
I'll feel happier once my Meenova & high end quality SDCard arrive & I can try on decent hardware it'll become clear then if it's hardware or the moto G software.
I'm pretty sure it is the software, messing around since about 5h with unmount and mount ****.
The curious thing is when i mount and unmount otg storage with adb i can access the data on it in the shell.
But when i go then in a File Explorer on the phone it looks like there is no data.
Just brain *****.
sorry, delete please
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When I mount the usb stick with stickmount pro i have a other issue.
It mounts then to /sdcard/usbstorage/sda for the first time.
But when i disconnect the stick said:
I rooted mine and used stickmount pro for some time and all seemed fine, with a consistent mounted device. Then, having installed Titanium Backup, I decided to back up to a microsd device.
I'm always careful to unmount before removing the microusb device. But after doing the backup, Stickmount declined to unmount it. I checked the box to allow it to force holding apps to abort, but it still wouldn't unmount. So I rebooted. And the microusb device was still there according to stickmount even when unplugged.
Next time, when I plugged it back in, it came in like yours as sdb, And now it's incrementing with every new plug in. I've checked with df in a terminal and it doesn't seem to know anything about the imaginary devices...
Very curious.
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You say that you had a consistent mount point? How often do you mount it before you installed titanium, coz I have titanium too.
Dont know if this is the error?!
But I think it is a software error related to the moto g firmware.
I really need a fix, every help is welcome
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You say that you had a consistent mount point? How often do you mount it before you installed titanium, coz I have titanium too.
Dont know if this is the error?!
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A number of times and it always mounted and unmounted OK as sda1. Whether Titanium is holding it open I don't know, as I said ticking the box in stickmount to force release doesn't do anything. And so far I've only done the back up once, but the device name increments each time I plug the microusb in. My microusbs are all dumb adapters with Sandisk USB sticks plugged in to them.
I have same problem.
Hopefully OTG Disk Explorer Lite from google play can enter the USB drive all the times. Unfortunately it seems to not support NTFS but with FAT32 works fine. Too bad I cannot find a way to reach the flash drive on other file explorers...
P.S. Xbox 360 controller works normally on Moto G
Little update:
I received my meenvo 1 week ago.
With the meenova and stickmount pro it works now the way it should.
I can write and read to it all the time, it mounts to /storage/usbStorage/sd* but on the same time it mounts also to the fixed mount point /storage/usbdisk_1.1.1.
So I use the fixed mount point /storage/usbdisk_1.1.1.
What ROM are you on? I'm still trying to figure out how some people can mount, read & write & others can't. (I'm on a tesco UK 16GB ROM)
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techguyone said:
What ROM are you on? I'm still trying to figure out how some people can mount, read & write & others can't. (I'm on a tesco UK 16GB ROM)
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I'm also 16 GB tesco... I wonder if it's software or hardware problem...
Software clearly as others can Mount, read & write. Maybe when we get the KK update it'll be resolved.
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I wrote on Moto Care and they gave me ticket to send on warranty. On the bottom I'll quote the mail because it has some interesting details about warranty.
But I did not give up and I think I found out the solution!!! It looks like this app is working flawlessly: USB Stick Plugin-TC (TRIAL). It's plugin for Total Commander but works without any problem on Moto G!!! The most important feature is that it does not need root. I hope that this will work for everyone
Anyway, people reporting that they don't have any problems - what apps do you use? I'd like to have a standalone and possibly free app for USB OTG management.
ATTACHEMENT:
(...)Motorola will repair and return your phone free of charge under the warranty conditions. If in the event that your phone is found to be out of warranty by the repair centre then please be advised that a quotation and handling charge may be applied. Any damage caused by using unauthorised operating systems, tampering or altering the device firmware will void your warranty and you may be charged for repair.
You can expect the phone to be repaired within 5 working days from its arrival at our repair centre but please allow additional days for postage. Please also note that Motorola do not accept claims for losses incurred by customers not following the process detailed in this message.(...)
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Moto G Otg FIX FOR USB STORAGE DEVICES WITHOUT APPS/ROOT
vampy2k5 said:
First I have to say mounting a usb stick over a otg cable is no problem.
THe problem I have is that when I mount a usb stick the first time it mounts to usbstick_1.1.1.
Al right till then, but when I disconnect the stick and want to mount it again, no chance!
I need to reboot then it works again.
When I mount the usb stick with stickmount pro i have a other issue.
It mounts then to /sdcard/usbstorage/sda for the first time.
But when i disconnect the stick, the next time I connect it it mounts to sdb and so on.
I need a FIXED mount point for programs like spotfiy.
I need the music database on the same place when i conenct my meenova so the app can find the stuff.
Anyone has a solution for this?
THANKS!
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The method which I am telling you is for usb storage devices.....It needs formatting, so backup your data.
Step 1:Install EaseUS Partition Master Free Edition>> (Since new user so cannot write url , but you can google that)
Step 2: Plug in your usb device properly. Open the program and click DELETE
Step 3:Then click CREATE....a dialog box will appear
Step 4:IMPORTANT: Select "PRIMARY" OPTION IN "CREATE AS:" and Select "FAT32" in "File System"
Step 5:Click "OK" and click "APPLY"
Now your usb stick works in moto g........you can see "preparing usb drive". You can locate usb drive in device\storage\usbdisk
Orignally posted by me Share if you want
tried this method and still doesnt wrk
also i installed the nexus media importer app and that shows my otg flash drive but doesnt read it
this is really weird because my dell venue 8 tablet that has 4.2.2 can read the usb storage lickety split