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Hello everyone!
I've spent the past week doing as much research as possible into what type of battery to buy for my G2 and i've come across alot of information to say the least. Alot of opinions, alot of useless data, and some useful data. I just wanted to summarize this info for everyone. And add any new information that people post in the thread below, including battery life data.
Popular Batteries:
- The Mugen 1800mAh - $45 (1400mAh in testing)
- The Senido 1750mAh - $50 (1400mAh in testing)
- The HTC 1500mAh 35H00123-11M (-00M).. Also known as the TP2/EVO battery - $7 (1500mAh in testing)
- The CHICHITEC 1800mAh - $20/each or $40 for 2 + Charger (untested)
Research:
- Mugen and Seido seem to have EXTREMELY inconsistent mAh ratings, HTC seems to be the most consistent.
- On the other hand, trying to compare these battery assuming constant maximum power draw is a little unfair.
The one thing that seems constant is that HTC's battery's perform as expected in every environment and over time, whereas the third partys seem to be able to pull values closer (somewhat) to what they advertise under certain conditions. Not to mention that we have no knowledge regarding the long-term affects of the 'tuning' that these third party companies have done.
We gotta realize that most battery's are using the same cell or the same knock-off cell, and we can't really expect to much of an increase in mAh in this battery form-factor.
Installation Issues:
A lot of these battery's will need to be modified to fit our phones in one way or another as they're meant for the EVO 4G/Incredible/TP2/MyTouch3gSlide/CDMAHero.. Even the ones that are labeled as "G2 Compatible" might not be as a lot of the 'higher capacity' cells have identical dimensions.
Removing the Wrapper around the battery might assist with door bulge
If you feel like you have to aggressively 'wedge' the battery in then you might want to remove/modify the little nub's at the bottom of the battery near the contacts using nail clippers/dremel/knife. Otherwise you run the risk of damaging the cell-side charging contacts.
Some of the hardcore guys in here have sanded down the battery to have a good fit
The 'fit' differs from phone to phone depending both on the dimensions of each specific battery (not the actual brand or company, but each individual battery seems to be a little bit different) and the G2 Door.
If you leave the door bulging indefinitely it might damage the door in some way, it's recommended that you remove the door and just use a case if it's a major problem for you.
Tips:
- After installing the new battery, remember to reset the battery calibration through your recovery. This affects how many times you feel the need to "cycle it through" before achieving optimal battery life.
- Don't believe the temperature sensor on 3rd Party batteries
- Individual "Before and After" stories are cool, but not that useful considering all the variables involved with the hardware, the radio & signal, the software, and the human being (placebo affect). Aggregating all the data together does give us some picture of whats going on.
- The best tell for battery quality is the weight of the battery compared to your stock one, although this is not a guaranteed method.
Conclusion
After reading through as many threads as I could find regarding this topic, It seems that the CHICHITEC batteries have come to be the most popular across all these HTC phones. While the 1500mAh HTC EVO battery seems like the best deal with the most consistent power output.
The average perceived benefit using these batteries seems to be between 30-20%.
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All Corrections Welcome, All Data Welcome!
Fantastic initiative. Unfortunately I only have the stock at the moment and I can't comment.
Did u mean Seidio or Sendio??
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Thanks, this really is usefull and spares us who are still trying to figure out wich battery they want, alot of time!
For CHICHITEC 1800mAh battery, is it safe to shave off the piece allowing the battery to be a perfect fit? Such as trying to use a nail clipper and clip it off.
Very good work on compiling all this information.
All I wanted to do was add my experience. I went out on a limb and bought the 2000mAh batteries from Galilio.
I took the wrapper off and trimmed the tabs and have been using them for about 3 months now.
My battery door does have a slight bulge to it but I can live with it.
The other day I decided to go back to my factory battery because I now have a charger by my bed, one in my truck and one at work. I have to say, I am spoiled now. My G2 is loaded up and running like crazy and my factory battery lasted like 2 hours where my Galilio battery goes for about 9 to 10 hours.
I text ALOT and facebook runs all day, I use the navigation on a daily basis and play tons of games.
Hope my 2 cents helped.
Gravityrat said:
Very good work on compiling all this information.
All I wanted to do was add my experience. I went out on a limb and bought the 2000mAh batteries from Galilio.
I took the wrapper off and trimmed the tabs and have been using them for about 3 months now.
My battery door does have a slight bulge to it but I can live with it.
The other day I decided to go back to my factory battery because I now have a charger by my bed, one in my truck and one at work. I have to say, I am spoiled now. My G2 is loaded up and running like crazy and my factory battery lasted like 2 hours where my Galilio battery goes for about 9 to 10 hours.
I text ALOT and facebook runs all day, I use the navigation on a daily basis and play tons of games.
Hope my 2 cents helped.
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sweet i am still breaking the battery in hopefully its good as urs, btw what rom are you running?
I'm thinking about getting Mugen 1800mAH, but people are having mixed results. Maybe one day we'll get HTC made OEM battery.
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sweet i am still breaking the battery in hopefully its good as urs, btw what rom are you running?
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It's in my signature. lol
CM 6.1.1 I absolutely love it. Tried the CM 7 but don't like it yet.
im on 10 hours of uncharge, so far its been light use, uncluding 1 hour and 30 min of GPS some texting, surfing and HTC updates
Thanks for compiling this info. I've had greatly improved life with the 1800mAh Mugen, but wasn't aware of the inconsistency some people are seeing.
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How did u test them?
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I would say that the Mugen 1800 performs like a 1400 is an exaggeration.
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I would say that the Mugen 1800 performs like a 1400 is an exaggeration.
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Are you saying that it is better than 1400 or worse than 1400?
vittogn said:
How did u test them?
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Please run the same tests on the stock HTC 1300 mAh battery for reference.
I've posted in a thread about a 1500 mAh battery for $8.70 with wall charger.
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Queue515 said:
Are you saying that it is better than 1400 or worse than 1400?
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It's better, my bad for the ambiguous statement!
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It's better, my bad for the ambiguous statement!
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Cool, Thanks. There's a Mugen somewhere between HK and USA with my name on it.
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demster said:
I've posted in a thread about a 1500 mAh battery for $8.70 with wall charger.
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Add the DX batteries.
Anyone use these or had any experience with them? Are they really 1800mah? I've had mixed results in the past on various devices using generic(mugen included) extended life batteries...
Samsung MM-A700 - Battery worked great for a few months then one day the phone would just bootloop. Put stock battery in and no more problems...
Sanyo SCP-8100 - No problems
Sanyo SCP-8200 - No problems
Sanyo SCP-5300 - Standard generic battery no problems
LG Env - Awesome extended life no problems ever.
LG Env Touch - No problems ever
Audiovox PPC6600 - No problems ever
Audiovox PPC6700 - No problems ever
HTC Evo 4g - No problems
HTC HD2 - Tried multiple brands and generics...all lies, all garbage..including the one that came with the extended back cover with built in kickstand
HTC G2 - No problems
MyTouch 4G - No problems
Any info would be great as I just ordered one of those packages including 3 "1800mah" batteries plus the rapid wall charger.... I figure worse comes to worse they are just all standard life batteries so it's still a bonus over having just one battery. Thanks.
jsyi84 said:
Anyone use these or had any experience with them? Are they really 1800mah? I've had mixed results in the past on various devices using generic(mugen included) extended life batteries...
Samsung MM-A700 - Battery worked great for a few months then one day the phone would just bootloop. Put stock battery in and no more problems...
Sanyo SCP-8100 - No problems
Sanyo SCP-8200 - No problems
Sanyo SCP-5300 - Standard generic battery no problems
LG Env - Awesome extended life no problems ever.
LG Env Touch - No problems ever
Audiovox PPC6600 - No problems ever
Audiovox PPC6700 - No problems ever
HTC Evo 4g - No problems
HTC HD2 - Tried multiple brands and generics...all lies, all garbage..including the one that came with the extended back cover with built in kickstand
HTC G2 - No problems
MyTouch 4G - No problems
Any info would be great as I just ordered one of those packages including 3 "1800mah" batteries plus the rapid wall charger.... I figure worse comes to worse they are just all standard life batteries so it's still a bonus over having just one battery. Thanks.
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Buyer beware.
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Just bought and used an 1800mAh battery from ebay.
Says on the battery that it's meant for the Sensation and Evo 3D, which is fine. But the battery life is pretty terrible.
My Setup: Brightness full, wifi on 24/7, mobile data off. Profile is set to 192MHz when display is off and 1188MHz Conservative when screen is on. Running on 2G all the time and the screen is on for about an hour before the battery is completely gone. Fancy widget is pulling in weather and location every 15 mins via GPS and wifi. Pulse reader refreshes every hour on wifi.This is HALF the life that my G2 gave on stock battery with same setup. Overall battery lasted for 8-10 hours before complete dead. And my setup isn't even that power intensive.
I don't recommend buying those cheap eBay generic batteries. You get what you pay for. Go with the anker, like everyone else is saying
An Anker battery is like $10, why would you bother with an eBay battery?
Limewirelord said:
An Anker battery is like $10, why would you bother with an eBay battery?
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It's not $10. Please give me a link
Lowest I've seen is $17 or $18 on eBay/Amazon
If you're going to buy an Anker, go with the two-pack.
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If you're going to buy an Anker, go with the two-pack.
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Sorry, that's too expensive for me. Was hoping the eBay battery could give me decent battery life on the cheap, but it did not. Far worse than the stock battery. At least the stock battery will get me through the day
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Sorry, that's too expensive for me. Was hoping the eBay battery could give me decent battery life on the cheap, but it did not. Far worse than the stock battery. At least the stock battery will get me through the day
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I have a spare anker battery that came in my 2 pack i hate having to keep switch between batterys so i decided to only use one but i learned batterys go bad if not used? so i stored it in my fridge lol pm me if anyone wants it.
I bought a two pack of the "1800 mah" ebaytteries and not only do they get worse life than htc stick batt, but imo are running much hotter. Just bought anker, and going through the breaking in period (charging and uncharging fully...) Very cool running, obviously better life already.
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I bought a two pack of the "1800 mah" ebaytteries and not only do they get worse life than htc stick batt, but imo are running much hotter. Just bought anker, and going through the breaking in period (charging and uncharging fully...) Very cool running, obviously better life already.
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It amazes me at how bad this "higher" mAh battery can be compared to stock...
And it looks curiously similar to the GT max battery they are selling on newegg. However, that battery has gotten good ratings
gtmaster303 said:
It amazes me at how bad this "higher" mAh battery can be compared to stock...
And it looks curiously similar to the GT max battery they are selling on newegg. However, that battery has gotten good ratings
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I keep saying to either go with the 3600mAh Mugen or the 1900mAh Anker two-pack. The $30 spent on the latter would have saved so much headache.
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I keep saying to either go with the 3600mAh Mugen or the 1900mAh Anker two-pack. The $30 spent on the latter would have saved so much headache.
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Too expensive. I'm not ready to shell out $20+ for a new battery. Best part about the ebay battery is, the 1800mAh battery was only a few dollars, and I told the seller I didn't want it. He let me keep it anyway and refunded my money. The battery life is pretty bad, about 20% less than stock. Lasts about 8-10 hours. But having a spare battery at all is great. Just that little extra boost when days get long. Otherwise I'm getting 10-12 hours of runtime on the stock battery, which is mostly fine for me.
It could be that I got a bad battery as well. Feedback for the battery is mostly positive
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Too expensive. I'm not ready to shell out $20+ for a new battery. Best part about the ebay battery is, the 1800mAh battery was only a few dollars, and I told the seller I didn't want it. He let me keep it anyway and refunded my money. The battery life is pretty bad, about 20% less than stock. Lasts about 8-10 hours. But having a spare battery at all is great. Just that little extra boost when days get long. Otherwise I'm getting 10-12 hours of runtime on the stock battery, which is mostly fine for me.
It could be that I got a bad battery as well. Feedback for the battery is mostly positive
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It's $10 for each battery plus another $10 for a wall charger. And your phone must have been a fluke, since the average battery life of the OEM battery is upwards of 6 hours.
Expensive is spending good money on crap that doesn't work well and fails in a short amount of time. The Anker is a good value. Value being good quality & functionality at low or reasonable cost. Value costs more than junk.
For me a Mugen might be awesome but the price point is wrong for me. I personally don't see the value in buying one. The Anker is a good value to me. Ebay batteries are of questionable use and suspect build quality they are over priced especially if they could damage my $600+ phone.
You have to decide for yourselves what value is for you. I appreciate a well functioning product at a reasonable price.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement.
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I keep saying to either go with the 3600mAh Mugen or the 1900mAh Anker two-pack. The $30 spent on the latter would have saved so much headache.
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blackknightavalon said:
It's $10 for each battery plus another $10 for a wall charger. And your phone must have been a fluke, since the average battery life of the OEM battery is upwards of 6 hours.
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Where is the anker battery for $10?
Link please
And I don't use mobile data on my phone. Only wifi. So even the worst of batteries can provide me some good usage...
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Where is the anker battery for $10?
Link please
And I don't use mobile data on my phone. Only wifi. So even the worst of batteries can provide me some good usage...
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1) Go to the Amazon page with the Anker two-pack.
2) Look at the contents of the product.
3) Look at the price tag.
4) Use grade school math to calculate the price of each individual component.
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blackknightavalon said:
1) Go to the Amazon page with the Anker two-pack.
2) Look at the contents of the product.
3) Look at the price tag.
4) Use grade school math to calculate the price of each individual component.
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You misunderstood me. I was looking for ONE battery at $10.
Bulk multiple buying =/= good deal
What am I going to do with two Anker batteries or the charger? I would only ever use one at a time, so that deal is unnecessary to me.
By the way, I wanted to ask anyone how the battery cover fares after multiple battery swaps. Does it get loose or out of shape over time? I'm afraid that might happen when swapping the battery often...
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You misunderstood me. I was looking for ONE battery at $10.
Bulk multiple buying =/= good deal
What am I going to do with two Anker batteries or the charger? I would only ever use one at a time, so that deal is unnecessary to me.
By the way, I wanted to ask anyone how the battery cover fares after multiple battery swaps. Does it get loose or out of shape over time? I'm afraid that might happen when swapping the battery often...
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Well I just checked Amazon. If you're looking for a good battery...spend at least $20.
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gtmaster303 said:
Where is the anker battery for $10?
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price on amazon/ebay has gone up to $30 for two. It was $22 for two a couple months ago.
hopefully the price will come back down to earth soon!
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price on amazon/ebay has gone up to $30 for two. It was $22 for two a couple months ago.
hopefully the price will come back down to earth soon!
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Given that the OEM batteries are $50 each, I'd like to know how $30 for two batteries AND a wall charger COMBINED is "too expensive."
Hey guys,
Spent some time searching and reading the relevant threads on G2x, and the final consensus seems to me that there is no widespread agreement with respect to the question I've posed in the thread title. It seems to me that the only extended batteries that are guaranteed to give more than just a 30-60min boost are the 3000mah+ batteries that require using a much larger back cover that turns the G2x into a G2XL.
Hoping there's someone who can prove me wrong. I'm about to buy the G2x for its fantastic specs and low price for use on T-Mobile's prepaid monthly plan. Andida extended battery gets mixed reviews. Same for Prodicell batteries. The one battery for which I'd like to see some results is the "Seidio Innocell 1750mAh Slim Extended Battery for use with LG Thrill 4G, Optimus 3D, LG G2X and Optimus 2X" listed on Amazon.com. (Couldn't post link due to my low post number).
Any thoughts thus far? Will I need to turn my G2x smartphone into a giantphone to get noticeable increases in battery life?
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Hey guys,
Spent some time searching and reading the relevant threads on G2x, and the final consensus seems to me that there is no widespread agreement with respect to the question I've posed in the thread title. It seems to me that the only extended batteries that are guaranteed to give more than just a 30-60min boost are the 3000mah+ batteries that require using a much larger back cover that turns the G2x into a G2XL.
Hoping there's someone who can prove me wrong. I'm about to buy the G2x for its fantastic specs and low price for use on T-Mobile's prepaid monthly plan. Andida extended battery gets mixed reviews. Same for Prodicell batteries. The one battery for which I'd like to see some results is the "Seidio Innocell 1750mAh Slim Extended Battery for use with LG Thrill 4G, Optimus 3D, LG G2X and Optimus 2X" listed on Amazon.com. (Couldn't post link due to my low post number).
Any thoughts thus far? Will I need to turn my G2x smartphone into a giantphone to get noticeable increases in battery life?
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You were searching in the wrong forum. Try the G2x Accessories forum.
But here is a link for a 2430Mah the same size as the original.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259122
GTWalling said:
You were searching in the wrong forum. Try the G2x Accessories forum.
But here is a link for a 2430Mah the same size as the original.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259122
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I read about the so-called "gold" batteries. I'm reserving final judgment but remaining skeptical until we can get some extensive tests showing they're worth replacing the stock.
zeth006 said:
Hey guys,
Any thoughts thus far? Will I need to turn my G2x smartphone into a giantphone to get noticeable increases in battery life?
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As they say in the automotive world, "There's no replacement for displacement"..
Basically, yeah, if you want a noticeable increase in battery life, then you will need to accept a noticeable increase in battery size. No way around it.
I have seen people spend $50 or more on 'name brand' extended batteries that are the same size as stock, and they rarely give any more battery life than a brand new stock battery.
Think about it - with the phone market as competitive as it is, if there were a battery that offered significant increases in battery life without an increase in size, do you think the major manufacturers would ignore that and allow some Chinese knock-off company to capitalize on it? Not a chance.
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As they say in the automotive world, "There's no replacement for displacement"..
Basically, yeah, if you want a noticeable increase in battery life, then you will need to accept a noticeable increase in battery size. No way around it.
I have seen people spend $50 or more on 'name brand' extended batteries that are the same size as stock, and they rarely give any more battery life than a brand new stock battery.
Think about it - with the phone market as competitive as it is, if there were a battery that offered significant increases in battery life without an increase in size, do you think the major manufacturers would ignore that and allow some Chinese knock-off company to capitalize on it? Not a chance.
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You're probably right.
Back in the day (remember when cellphones were, well, just cellphones?) it was just Sanyo and Panasonic and a few other Japanese companies dominating the lithium-ion battery market. Now even Samsung's caught up to them in terms of market share and they've been working overtime to get as much battery life as possible out of their phones. And they have to--check out the competition lately!
Bah. I guess I'm pretty much left to working on every single possible software fix to up my battery life. I'll be reading up on the ROM guides. I hear CM7 is a good rom.
I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Battery...ccessories&hash=item4161e46d48#ht_2079wt_1270
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I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
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Yeah, I've been looking at those. There's also a 3900mah battery available. But the 4500mah pushes it way too far!
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I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Battery...ccessories&hash=item4161e46d48#ht_2079wt_1270
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i know that a case would make it even thicker... but do they have tpu cases or some type of cover that protects the corners?
I have been looking for something similar, a case for my extended 3500 mAh battery. The back IS larger, of course, the battery appears to be slightly more that double the depth of the stock battery. However, that being said, the design could be worse. I saw another extended battery that was the same size with a god awful protruding rectangle that made the phone look completely off balance. The battery I purchased here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3500mAh...ccessories&hash=item2a18e3208c#ht_1358wt_1041 looks, eh, alright
But anyways, I figure the only hope is for me to make a mould of the phone, and perhaps build one.
For OP I use the Andida 1980mah and it works great. It tests at 1980mah and gives me significant life over stock.
1500 vs 1980
Same size as stock for around $10
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For OP I use the Andida 1980mah and it works great. It tests at 1980mah and gives me significant life over stock.
1500 vs 1980
Same size as stock for around $10
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I'm personally hesitant to commit to that battery. I went ahead and got a 3500mah battery. So far, the performance is quite good. It's allowed me to experiment with other rom/kernel packages that aren't as battery-friendly as tsugi, but offer tons of tweaks.
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I know you said you didn't want to buy a bigger battery, but assuming you cave in, I can tell you first hand that these batteries actually do last MUCH longer. I can go a full 12 - 16 hours HEAVY usage with "4G". The door itself feels kinda cheap but it's lasted me a good 10 months so far.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Battery...ccessories&hash=item4161e46d48#ht_2079wt_1270
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With stock battery and medium-heavy usage I can get 18 hours on EB and Trinity.... I would think I could easily get into the range of 12-16 with Heavy, but you probably mean EXTREMELY heavy usage.
Also, many people said the Andida battery gave them a few hours extra, thought of trying it but when I look at the ebay page for it the packaging looks extremely cheap... Which leads me to believe the battery is probably also very cheaply made and could easily fry your phone.
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For OP I use the Andida 1980mah and it works great. It tests at 1980mah and gives me significant life over stock.
1500 vs 1980
Same size as stock for around $10
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I've also had good luck with this battery, definitely better than stock. I haven't tested it scientifically, this is purely an anecdotal opinion based on using both for a long time.
i've been using the 3500 mah battery for around 6 months, no problem.
the original 1500 mah battery is bull****, it only supports your phone for like 12 hours max, you have to keep looking at the battery level if you dont want your phone endup dead.
with the extended battery i can go all day long, in heavy 3g mode. yes its bulky, but you will get what you're looking for. luckily i got it with a pair of desktop charger that i put in my office and home desk, so i never miss any recharge.
i dont think 1980 battery will improve a lot, on paper it suppose to add another 2-3 hours of battery time. but compare it with the 3500, and you will have 150% plus on your battery life.
i got it for $9 in spider-foot dot com
http://www.amazon.com/CHICHITEC-Bat...-cellphone/dp/B00520BC3M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_6
1700 mAh -- not hugely better in terms of mAh.. but it makes a big difference for me. the stock battery will not last a whole day (12 hrs) - but I easily get 17-18 hrs from the chichitec.. just saying. .
I have easily gotten >24 hrs in low usage.. i think best was 22hrs to 40%.. but that was wifi and a couple phone calls only on Morfic's XLP-GB kernel.. a bit on the pokey side.. but okay for wifi calling ..
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http://www.amazon.com/CHICHITEC-Bat...-cellphone/dp/B00520BC3M/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_6
1700 mAh -- not hugely better in terms of mAh.. but it makes a big difference for me. the stock battery will not last a whole day (12 hrs) - but I easily get 17-18 hrs from the chichitec.. just saying. .
I have easily gotten >24 hrs in low usage.. i think best was 22hrs to 40%.. but that was wifi and a couple phone calls only on Morfic's XLP-GB kernel.. a bit on the pokey side.. but okay for wifi calling ..
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thanks, I've been on the fence between ordering the 2x chichitecs or the 2x 1800 hyperions... think I might go with the chihitecs now. I've read in reviews that the included charger sucks though, doesn't always work... hows your experience with it?
diontoradan said:
i've been using the 3500 mah battery for around 6 months, no problem.
the original 1500 mah battery is bull****, it only supports your phone for like 12 hours max, you have to keep looking at the battery level if you dont want your phone endup dead.
with the extended battery i can go all day long, in heavy 3g mode. yes its bulky, but you will get what you're looking for. luckily i got it with a pair of desktop charger that i put in my office and home desk, so i never miss any recharge.
i dont think 1980 battery will improve a lot, on paper it suppose to add another 2-3 hours of battery time. but compare it with the 3500, and you will have 150% plus on your battery life.
i got it for $9 in spider-foot dot com
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12 hours? Bull****. I can easily get over a day on the stock battery and 3 on a 3500.
Maybe on the stock ROM the battery is that bad, but no ROM here gives that bad battery
And not only does that 3500 mAh battery give you 150% more battery, it makes your phone look like a retarded bloated whale and a viable floatation device, What a steal!
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IRASadPanda said:
12 hours? Bull****. I can easily get over a day on the stock battery and 3 on a 3500.
Maybe on the stock ROM the battery is that bad, but no ROM here gives that bad battery
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deffinitlynot that bad im at 81% on 8 hours running ics and OC with the stock battery
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12 hours? Bull****. I can easily get over a day on the stock battery and 3 on a 3500.
Maybe on the stock ROM the battery is that bad, but no ROM here gives that bad battery
And not only does that 3500 mAh battery give you 150% more battery, it makes your phone look like a retarded bloated whale and a viable floatation device
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I can confirm that on the stock, my phone lasts 12h on average. I'm using EB with ELP Trinity.
Keep in mind that how much a phone lasts you is a very subjective statistic. You can use a phone much less/more than someone else, and thus the battery life would be longer/shorter. The appearance of the extended 3500mAh batteries is also subjective.
If we're going to be objective here:
The stock battery lasts about 4-6h of active usage (having the screen on, with a data connection, and running applications that actually make use of the CPU). How many hours of light usage/stand-by someone might have in between those 4-6h of usage varies from person to person. (i.e. someone might use their phone heavily for an hour, then have 5h of really light usage/stand-by, then another hour of heavy usage, and so on until a cumulative 4-6h of active usage has been accumulated)
The extended 3500mAh battery, while doubling the thickness of your phone also increases your battery life 150%-200%.
The reviews for extended batteries that are the same size as stock aren't at all consistent. They vary from people saying they perform worse, to people saying they give a much longer battery life. The only battery that has mostly positive reviews is the Anker 1550mAh, which has been told to run cooler and last a bit longer. Of course having only a 50mAh advantage over the stock, the increase in life shouldn't be expected to be too substantial.
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I can confirm that on the stock, my phone lasts 12h on average. I'm using EB with ELP Trinity.
Keep in mind that how much a phone lasts you is a very subjective statistic. You can use a phone much less/more than someone else, and thus the battery life would be longer/shorter. The appearance of the extended 3500mAh batteries is also subjective.
If we're going to be objective here:
The stock battery lasts about 4-6h of active usage (having the screen on, with a data connection, and running applications that actually make use of the CPU). How many hours of light usage/stand-by someone might have in between those 4-6h of usage varies from person to person. (i.e. someone might use their phone heavily for an hour, then have 5h of really light usage/stand-by, then another hour of heavy usage, and so on until a cumulative 4-6h of active usage has been accumulated)
The extended 3500mAh battery, while doubling the thickness of your phone also increases your battery life 150%-200%.
The reviews for extended batteries that are the same size as stock aren't at all consistent. They vary from people saying they perform worse, to people saying they give a much longer battery life. The only battery that has mostly positive reviews is the Anker 1550mAh, which has been told to run cooler and last a bit longer. Of course having only a 50mAh advantage over the stock, the increase in life shouldn't be expected to be too substantial.
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That's gotta be the ELP voltages being too low for you and thus causing higher battery drain, try the T15 and undervolt till you find your voltage sweet spot, you will get way better battery than that.
I use my phone pretty heavily through the day, Music, Games, text, web, calls, etc... and I'm getting much higher than 12 hours.
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My stock battery is shot. It will drain from fully charged down to nothing in an hour of browsing the net. I have tried everything to calibrate it and have tried different ROMs but still the drain is horrible.
I saw a 1900 anchor (ankor?) battery on amazon for $19. Is that the one that everyone buys?
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My stock battery is shot. It will drain from fully charged down to nothing in an hour of browsing the net. I have tried everything to calibrate it and have tried different ROMs but still the drain is horrible.
I saw a 1900 anchor (ankor?) battery on amazon for $19. Is that the one that everyone buys?
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Yes. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh-Battery-Sensation-Mytouch/dp/B0053EZJMC
It works great. Though l don't use my phone heavily. I mostly use it at home when phone is plugged in. But still it last much longer than stock.
Most people buy Anker battery and are very happy with it. I personally wanted more juice so I bought Mugen 3800mah battery. With Mugen I get with extremely heavy use around 26 hours of use. With moderate use I get around 36 hours. Light use 48 hours. But one problem with mugen is you will have to replace your back cover and your phone will be thicker to accommodate the battery. For me personally, I was after extreme battery life so the thicker phone didn't bother me at all. Another issue is price. Mugen is five times more expensive than Anker. But for me, I'm keeping my phone for awhile so it was a investment. But most don't want to deal with those issues so they choose Anker. It all depends on what you want. I recommend you start with anker, then if you decide you want more juice, go with mugen. But for most Anker is just fine. It's a good battery and will give you extended use. If you want extremely long battery life, go with mugen.
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Yes. http://www.amazon.com/Anker-1900mAh-Battery-Sensation-Mytouch/dp/B0053EZJMC
It works great. Though l don't use my phone heavily. I mostly use it at home when phone is plugged in. But still it last much longer than stock.
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This is probably a stupid question but you can charge the battery by plugging your phone in like usual right? I see that some of them come with a wall charger where you have to plug the actual battery into that.
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Most people buy Anker battery and are very happy with it. I personally wanted more juice so I bought Mugen 3800mah battery. With Mugen I get with extremely heavy use around 26 hours of use. With moderate use I get around 36 hours. Light use 48 hours. But one problem with mugen is you will have to replace your back cover and your phone will be thicker to accommodate the battery. For me personally, I was after extreme battery life so the thicker phone didn't bother me at all. Another issue is price. Mugen is five times more expensive than Anker. But for me, I'm keeping my phone for awhile so it was a investment. But most don't want to deal with those issues so they choose Anker. It all depends on what you want. I recommend you start with anker, then if you decide you want more juice, go with mugen. But for most Anker is just fine. It's a good battery and will give you extended use. If you want extremely long battery life, go with mugen.
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Thanks for the response but I think that is a little overkill. I will probably get a new phone before that kind of price is worth it.
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This is probably a stupid question but you can charge the battery by plugging your phone in like usual right? I see that some of them come with a wall charger where you have to plug the actual battery into that.
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Yes. Anker simply replaces your stock battery. Same shape size.
Is this Anker really that good? Beacuse I always buy the batterys from ebay (just like the ones for my DSLR) and have now a no brand 2430mAh using for almost a year and can use it a whole day without problems. Costs me only $12 and free shipping.
I bought 2 Anker batteries and a charger for $30US, I think. No regrets.
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My stock battery is shot. It will drain from fully charged down to nothing in an hour of browsing the net. I have tried everything to calibrate it and have tried different ROMs but still the drain is horrible.
I saw a 1900 anchor (ankor?) battery on amazon for $19. Is that the one that everyone buys?
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I bought my Anker 1 year ago and it still pretty good!
Get Anker.
An important thing to consider is anker has a 1 year warranty. And they WILL honor their warranty. I bought 6 batteries for my families LG Optimus Vs (Our first smartphones) and 1 battery went bad after like 6 months. I called them up a few months later when I realized I had a warranty, and they sent me replacement! (it was like 1 month before my warranty ended) And all they wanted was the serial numbers of the old batteries, however the original ones didn't have numbers so they instead just wanted a photo. (Which now that I think about it I never sent... ...)
Also, one of the chargers (that I bought with 2 batteries, a few months before that set of batteries I mentioned above) fried for some reason after about 8 months. So I left it on the shelf hoping I might be able to fix it. By the time I realized I had the warranty it had been over a year since my purchase. Bummer. So I called them up explained it went bad several months ago but I didn't know about the warranty, could they send me a replacement? And even though I was no longer in my warranty they sent me a new one.
Another thing is, for me, having spare batteries is a MUST as I have a LOT of free time at work. (I'm a background actor, and most of the time we have to do whatever we want) And continuous use (Browsing the web, playing games, reading news, watching TED AIR talks) drains a battery in 3 - 5 hours. And it can sometimes be 16 hour days, with no place nearby to plug in a charger. That's another awesome thing about Anker sets, the stand alone charger. I have MANY times been at work with one of my batteries dead. I looked for and found an outlet, a little far from holding, (where we are while we aren't working) and just plugged a dead battery into the stand alone charger and into the outlet. I can go to work or just go about my business not tethered to the wall, and 3 hours later my battery is charged. I then would switch one of my more drained batteries for it and continue like that.
So ultimately its up to you, but I would recommend getting a set of 2 Anker 1900mah batteries and a charger for $30. However if the charger isn't a big deal for you then look up some $7 Evo 3D batteries on Amazon. They are 1730mah, and are pretty decent.
Bragging here, I currently have around 10 batteries! Only 2 are anker. the others are 5 EVO 3D and 3 Sensation stock batteries I got for only $2 each! I found someone on Amazon selling them for $2 each with $4.50 shipping, only the shipping combined! So I got 8 batteries AND five 16GB Class 4 Sandisk MicroSDs for only $54 total. What a deal. lol.
So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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uuh... the relay is already quite thick, with that battery it will be huge... i personally wouldn't, but it's a matter of personal taste
I had an extended battery on my Doubleshot before this - the bulk didn't really bother me. Maybe I'm strange but I didn't mind. Especially with the battery life I got.
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i has extended batteries for my G1 one back then. i used them when i took the device with me geocaching. I had two of them and they made the device stay up longer than i ever did
downside with the bulky back covers is, that the device won't fit into any pouches no more. and, of course cases no longer fit either.
but once you're used to the shape - imho - the added thickness is no longer disturbing.
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So I was surfing the intraweb last night and came across http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...galaxy-s-relay-4g-t699-with-battery-door.html. Very tempting, especially considering that according to Mugen it has NFC. What do y'all think? Should I?
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You can go for this solution....1/5th of Mugen's price:
http://www.hyperionea.com/product/hyperion-samsung-galaxy-s-relay-sgh-t699-2-x-battery-charger/
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Capacity-Extended-Replacement-SGH-T699/dp/B00AQRVYXY - this one?
Does it have NFC? I don't see it anywhere on the page.
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Nope. No NFC.
I've had my Relay 4G about a month and a half now, and am already looking at getting an extended battery. I find myself charging it a few times a day - sometimes I'll only get maybe 3 hours before it's "critically low". Yes, I do use it a ton - it's currently my main computer, since I rarely have access to my parents' laptop and my desktop, whose case+mobo+cpu I recently sent to the recycle bin, bit the dust over a year ago. Also I have unlimited unthrottled 4G on T-Mobile (and used well over 10-12GB last month, & this (billing) month am currently at 12.21GB since April 28.
I've seen the Mugen 4600mAh battery with NFC online around $90 (way too rich for my blood), and the EZOPower 4100mAh (no NFC) for around $17-23 or so at Amazon or NewEgg, among other places. I was originally wary of the cheap price on the EZO, but if the huge price difference is due to NFC and not being a cheaply made battery, I'd want the EZO, possibly 2. I don't use the NFC hardly at all, and I suppose if I really need it sometime I could pop the original stock battery back in for the occasion.
So any reason for me to NOT get the EZOPower 4100mAh? If I get 2, I'll probably also want an external charging solution so I can charge one while using the other. Also is there a hardshell case (with a built-in stand) available that fits the phone with the larger battery door? BTW unavailability of those two things won't be dealbreakers for me getting the battery. I had an extended battery for my G1, and that phone finally bit the dust after ~4+ years. (I wonder if my SGH-T699 will last that long…)
would somebody care to explain to be why nfc is dependand on the battery?
the batteries have just the same 4 connectors as any other cell battery i always had in my hands.
or are they made of materials that don't shield the nfc waves passing though?
nfc antenna is in the battery casing. NFC antennas go for about $5 on ebay, if you figured out which two connectors go to the nfc you could probably set up your own if your battery doesn't support it.
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Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
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orange808 said:
I had purchased a EZO high capacity battery with cover from Amazon--the same day I ordered the phone. That was months ago and I see the battery is no longer available on the site.
That's a shame, because the package was reasonably priced, the cover fits well, and the battery works as promised.
The device can run about ten consecutive hours for me running CM9 without any CPU profiles and with the governour set to interactive.
If I'm going to be away from a charger for a long time, I've found that setting the device to powersave is tolerable for most applications and the battery goes from good to ridiculous...
The additional bulk will turn off some buyers; however, I have found that it makes sliding the keyboard open much easier...
If you can find an EZO battery and you don't mind the extra bulk, I recommend one.
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I also picked up two EZO batteries. They have a well made cover and last for twice what stock does. Unfortunately it didn't have a NFC antenna and both have now swollen up to the point they no longer fit. While I had left them plugged in after full charge, they seem to stay warm and not tolerate it well. Can't say how well they could have lasted if better cared for, but abuse or overcharging seems to effect them quickly.
Does the mugen or other brands also have issues? If anyone else have suggestions.
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Can anyone confirm whether the Relay accurately reports on the extended batteries? I'm currently using a patched Droid 3, but I'm starting to find its limitations too restrictive, and I'm thinking of plonking down for a Relay.
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Well, it just displays a percentage. It at least seems accurate while logging with Juice Defender's graph, it would track down at fairly consistent rate until charged or out of power. As for swapping over to a Relay, It's about as well supported as any slider out right now. I haven't been disappointed.
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the EZObattery rocks. For $19 (I got mine on ebay) I get 2 days and a few hours into the 3rd before needing a charge.
I have the same issue kilr00y mentioned about it not fitting into pouches or cases except I found now that the phone is harder to flip open and safely hold at the same time while doing 90 other things at once which is when I always need to use the phone. I keep an aftermarket case on the front screen part but can't find an extended back case. I made my own from a tube of black silicone but would love to hear it if anyone finds another option. I don't mind if the phone turns into 1988 brick style size so long as the battery lasts and I don't crack the screen again.
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
rudias said:
I was looking at extended batteries and if I'm not mistaken, there seems to be a genuine extended battery that should work with this phone. Just would need an extended battery cover. Battery model is: EB-L1K6ULZ (Link)
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It looks good. Be aware that most "extended" battery will not last long... In particular when they have a lower voltage than the original battery. Lot of battery with higher mAh run at 3.7V instead of 3.8V this make it last shorter than the original.
I've had 2 of the EZOPower 4100mAh batteries, and am experiencing the same problem that stonefoz mentioned about the batteries swelling. In my case, for example, the current one has gotten to where the cover will just spontaneously pop off, and the battery will dislodge, forcing the phone to lose power. Also, regarding his "staying warm" comment - sometimes when I was doing something extensive on the phone, it'd sometimes get so hot, especially the keyboard area, that I could barely hold it, and that concerns me some.
I believe the second one has lasted longer than my first, though. It's not quite as bad now as my first was when I replaced it. I bought my first one May 18, 2013, and my second one September 18, 2013, 4 months later. It's lasted till now, May 7, 2014, 7 and a half months later, but it's about time to replace it.
It looks like it's no longer available, but I was thinking I should try a different one anyway.
One option is this 4600 mAh Mugen battery for about $90, and another is this 5000 mAh MPJ battery for about $35. The MPJ does say it's only 3.7 volts, which according to scaltro could be a concern with longevity per charge.
I definitely would like better battery life. I've noticed that playing FarmVille 2: Country Escape is quite a drain - I'd go from full battery to getting the low battery warning after only something like 2 to 3 hours or so, even with the EZO battery. Earlier, I popped in the factory Samsung battery, topped off its charge, then decided to test battery life playing FV2. I also turned on bluetooth (and sent the sounds to an external speaker), cranked the screen brightness all the way up, and turned off power saver mode, in an attempt to get a "worst-case scenario". I tried turning on WiFi (we have a hotspot here now) but it wouldn't connect to the game server, so I just went through my unlimited+unthrottled 4G.
The results:
2:45am - battery full, unplugged
4:15am - battery 22% (I checked it a few times along the way periodically, but neglected to note the times)
4:23am - battery 14%, had just gotten the battery low popup warning
4:33am - battery 5%, battery critically low popup warning
4:35am - battery 3%, then I went and plugged it in.
So, it lasted only about an hour and 50 minutes from full to 3% remaining. I'm hoping a good battery would be able to go all day and all night and into the next day with similarly-intensive use. (No I wouldn't be playing games the entire time of course!)
Personally, if the $35 MPJ battery would be good enough, and significantly better than the EZO, I'd prefer to go for that one.
I'm wondering, though, if the $90 Mugen is a huge leap up in quality, though (disregarding the NFC for now which I haven't had to use)? It's a bit rich for my blood to drop all at once on a battery for a phone ... BUT, their website tells me they accept returns up to a year later (and I've gone through TWO EZOs in that time), which gives me some hope. If, overall, I'd be spending less by getting one Mugen and it outlasting 4 or 5 EZOs (if they were still available), I'd get that.
On a side note, it'll be a while before I can afford to replace my phone, but when I do, I'd really like a good QWERTY keyboard. I see that very few phones come with them now, though, and the ones that are are near the bottom of the barrel spec-wise. I'm thinking I'll need to get an external compact bluetooth or USB keyboard with my next phone, and expand my options for the phone itself. Ideally I'd like to get one that I can put in a flip case, with the phone in the other side of it, and close it when I'm not using it. (Although, there is the concern with getting the phone out quickly to answer calls, although I maybe only talk 25-50 minutes a month or so.) Any suggestions on what to look for in the case/keyboard department, for example? Chances are it won't be till 2015 at the earliest (and my wallet hopes my Galaxy S Relay 4G will last through 2016 or so unless it dies or something else goes seriously wrong) before I get a new phone, but I like to start my search early. When I do get one, I'm hoping it'll last at least 4-5 years, and maybe stretch it to 7-10 if I'm pressed for cash then.
My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
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My high capacity EZO battery eventually bloated and swelled up--after a year. I replaced it with a Mugen battery. Both came with new back covers and make the device about as chunky as a Sidekick II.
My device can run OpenGL applications for about 9 hours straight with the brightness set to 50%. It's about the same for movies. I get decent signal at my house and GPS is disabled when I am not using it. I use Green Power and Greenify to save battery when the device is locked, but that wouldn't affect using the device.
I am on an official Cyanogen nightly, so there's really no battery saving hocus pocus at work here.
Make no mistake, an extended battery will get you about 9 hours of heavy use. I thought I was going to die when I used a stock battery for a week waiting for my new Mugen to replace the old EZO. The device literally couldn't survive one day of use for me.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Ahh, so your EZO bloated too, just took a little longer than mine did.
Sounds like the Mugen (if that's the one you describe getting 9 hours of heavy use) has relatively decent life. Would you say it's significantly better per charge in that respect than the EZO was when it was good?
Also how is the Mugen for longevity, as in not swelling, etc? If I buy a Mugen, would I over the long term pay the same or less than if I had kept buying EZOs? Paying $90 in one blow seems a bit heavy on the wallet, but I'd do it if I'm getting that much better quality & longevity.
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Honestly, I got about the same results with my EZO battery: just over 9 hours of constant heavy use. Other than the fact it swelled up, it worked great. I guess there was a reason it was so cheap...
I had a Mugen battery for my Sidekick 4G before I bought the Relay and it still works great. (I loaned the SK4G to a friend that broke his phone.) My new Mugen hasn't had any problems, but I've only had it a few months.
Combined with TeamApex's Cyanogen and this awesome QWERTY keyboard, my extended batteries have made this phone the most productive and useful device I have ever owned. I can't say enough great things about ApexTmo, the Relay, and extended batteries.