Additional cellular charges on a Voice Call Enabled p7500? - Android General

Hey all, Just a quick question. I'm running the latest Nightly (April 26th/2013) on my GT-P7500 3g/Wifi with the Voice Call Enabled patch. Aside from an occasional glitchy hangup, Works GREAT! :good: Has anyone incurred additional charges from their carrier for using voice on a "Data only Device"? I've scoured the net, and most places say it can't even be done . I just don't really want to call Rogers and ask them direct. Ya know?

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[Q] Native SIP Calling ICS

First off I've got native SIP calling working through ICS. I set it up using the Sipdroid/GV approach and everything works fine as long as I have the box for "Receive Incoming Calls" checked.
My problem is. If I uncheck the incoming calls box I can no longer make calls either. I get a Response Timeout when trying to call. I don't want the extra battery drain from this because I never get calls and I only use the number to call out.
Does anyone else have the same issue or know of a solution?
Currently running the latest CM9 Nightly on the Verizon Galaxy Nexus.

Vonage on Samsung Blaze over T-mobile data

Hey everyone,
Was wondering if others had this problem. I have the $30 unlimited data plan with T-mobile. It gives only 100 voice minutes, so I thought I could use a VOIP as a solution. Vonage sounds great.
However, I can only use it over the data plan and not over Wi-fi. The cellular data is ok for browsing but the lag is annoying.
Wi-fi sounds like it should be better but I can't use wi-fi to call with Vonage. It just keeps clocking and then errors out. But as soon as I switch over the cellular data, it's fine.
Anyone else with this problem?
swhang said:
Hey everyone,
Was wondering if others had this problem. I have the $30 unlimited data plan with T-mobile. It gives only 100 voice minutes, so I thought I could use a VOIP as a solution. Vonage sounds great.
However, I can only use it over the data plan and not over Wi-fi. The cellular data is ok for browsing but the lag is annoying.
Wi-fi sounds like it should be better but I can't use wi-fi to call with Vonage. It just keeps clocking and then errors out. But as soon as I switch over the cellular data, it's fine.
Anyone else with this problem?
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Have you checked into maybe using google talk as an alternative? You can register and get your own number for free and use voip for texts/voice. I used it a long time ago on my myTouch 4g and it was nice. I set it up as a work number for a few months before I got another line. It worked great.
dispozable said:
Have you checked into maybe using google talk as an alternative? You can register and get your own number for free and use voip for texts/voice. I used it a long time ago on my myTouch 4g and it was nice. I set it up as a work number for a few months before I got another line. It worked great.
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Unless anyone else had better results google voice doesnt play nice with tmobile prepaid or family shared plans. The google # will work but the forwarding feature doesnt work for the voicemail part of the app.
dispozable said:
Have you checked into maybe using google talk as an alternative? You can register and get your own number for free and use voip for texts/voice. I used it a long time ago on my myTouch 4g and it was nice. I set it up as a work number for a few months before I got another line. It worked great.
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I thought about it, but I would have to change numbers. And also, the app that interacts with Google voice isn't free.
Vonage is free and when you call using that #, it uses the number that your phone is registered under. With incoming calls, I just have to use voice minutes, but that's ok b/c I can just reject and call them back using Vonage.
So has anyone gotten Vonage to work with Wi-fi?
swhang said:
I thought about it, but I would have to change numbers. And also, the app that interacts with Google voice isn't free.
Vonage is free and when you call using that #, it uses the number that your phone is registered under. With incoming calls, I just have to use voice minutes, but that's ok b/c I can just reject and call them back using Vonage.
So has anyone gotten Vonage to work with Wi-fi?
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-Well, first off, I don't use Vonage or any VOIP. But try SmartDial. I read its description on Google Play but doesn't say anything about Wifi...go check it out. :silly:
-Try KakaoTalk if you want. It's like Vonage and Google Voice.
Sorry if this didn't really help haha
EDIT: Kakao is more...social media, with unlimited voice and texting. And Viber is another app you can choose from...even though you'll probably have to switch numbers. See if Vonage can forward calls to a new number

T-Mobile Wifi Calling Alternatives?

This has been a work in progress over on the N4 forums, with little progress. I have zero cell reception in certain parts of my home with T-Mobile USA. What can I use as an alternative? Without using a different phone number (i.e Google Voice). Does Hangouts send SMS over Wifi or Cellular? What are you guys using?
Have you ever called tmobile about this. They have given people cell boosters for similar problems
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I'm having the same issue with T-Mobile. I have full LTE signal all around my city but the second I walk into my apartment I have absolutely no service. It's quite frustrating and I'm trying to find an alternative. I tried calling T-Mobile about it but they said their cell boosters are "only for stand alone homes and won't work in an apartment complex", which seems ridiculous but whatever.
I'd be willing to switch to Google Voice but I haven't been able to confirm whether or not Google Voice makes/receives calls and texts via Wifi, or if I'll need a separate app to make it work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
The typical method these days is Google Voice (since that's not specifically an SIP/VoIP thing itself) + either GrooveIP or Talkatone (which ARE those things) and you can then do SIP/VoIP calling from the Google Voice number, but as noted in the T-Mobile $30 plan thread multiple times (and other places as well) Google is removing the ability for third party apps to interact with GV at the end of April 2014 so that's when we (people that GV + third-party apps) will be forced to find other solutions to make SIP/VoIP calls).
And the other thing is that T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling setup uses minutes from your service plan - most people don't know this and it's not a big hassle on a 1500 minute or unlimited calling plan, but for those of us with the $30 plan it's basically pointless to use it when other alternatives (such as those I just described, at least for another 5 months or so) exist.
Skype is another option but you could be looking at some money involved based on what/who/where you're calling, and then there's stuff like Vonage if you use that service but that's an expenditure as well.
Google Voice for the Home via ObiTalk
sn0warmy said:
I'm having the same issue with T-Mobile. I have full LTE signal all around my city but the second I walk into my apartment I have absolutely no service. It's quite frustrating and I'm trying to find an alternative. I tried calling T-Mobile about it but they said their cell boosters are "only for stand alone homes and won't work in an apartment complex", which seems ridiculous but whatever.
I'd be willing to switch to Google Voice but I haven't been able to confirm whether or not Google Voice makes/receives calls and texts via Wifi, or if I'll need a separate app to make it work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Just FYI; I told AT&T to go fly a kite about 8 months ago for my home phone and have been using Google Voice on my home line as well as my cell phone for FREE. Yes; that's FREE incoming and outgoing calls.
I am using a small VoIP phone adapter found on Amazon called OBi202 from ObiTalk.com
Costs about $80 bucks and there is even a wifi adapter for $25 if you can't plug it in via Cat5 to your internet connection at home.
Anyway; you configure the phone adapter to use Google Voice and voila! You can connect 2 separate lines. I have mine and my wife's hooked up to cordless phones so I now have free home phone service.
Down side? The caller ID is a numer and not a name. I read about services available for a subscription that will give you the Name on Caller ID but if this is so important to you I guess you are OK with paying $60+ for phone service. (Yea right)
When you get a call it will ring simultaneously on your home phone and your mobile.
Free service; I LIKE THAT. And if you get bad reception at home from your mobile the nice part is that this could solve your issue because you give out your Google Voice number out and the phone will automatically start be ringing on your cordless when you are home.
Hope this helps you!!:good:
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sn0warmy said:
I'm having the same issue with T-Mobile. I have full LTE signal all around my city but the second I walk into my apartment I have absolutely no service. It's quite frustrating and I'm trying to find an alternative. I tried calling T-Mobile about it but they said their cell boosters are "only for stand alone homes and won't work in an apartment complex", which seems ridiculous but whatever.
I'd be willing to switch to Google Voice but I haven't been able to confirm whether or not Google Voice makes/receives calls and texts via Wifi, or if I'll need a separate app to make it work. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Oh; to answer your question I sent myself and back texts using Google Voice over Wifi only and it worked. I have called with it via Wifi also when traveling.
So it does.
You can use MagicJack. They also have a android app. I heard it pretty good, however to use the android app, you need to register your phone. Once you register your phone, you can't unregister it. This is info I pulled about a year ago. Look into it though.
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Port your number to Google Voice.
Get a VoIP account at a provider that has good latency for your location (I use voip.ms, costs $0.014/min outgoing, ~$0.01/min incoming).
Set up CSIPSimple on your phone (use g729a for good quality on slower connections, PCMU on faster connections; be prepared to fiddle with settings to get it down right)
Make calls using CSIPSimple from your voip.ms account
Set up Google Voice to ring both your voip.ms number when you receive calls, as well as your T-Mobile number (in case you don't have WiFi or data when the call comes through).

[Q] Sony Xperia Z3 D6633 Wifi Calling

Hey everyone,
I just picked up a new Z3 Unlocked with Dual sim mode and was having a very weird issue. I can make calls when the wifi is on, however, I do not receive incoming calls. It will ring twice and go to VM. Has anyone experienced this or know of way to fix it??
I've set the APN setting and everything works fine. I get LTE with AT&T and I have no issues except the issue with incoming calls on wifi.
Thanks guys.
Fredster 6.0 said:
Hey everyone,
I just picked up a new Z3 Unlocked with Dual sim mode and was having a very weird issue. I can make calls when the wifi is on, however, I do not receive incoming calls. It will ring twice and go to VM. Has anyone experienced this or know of way to fix it??
I've set the APN setting and everything works fine. I get LTE with AT&T and I have no issues except the issue with incoming calls on wifi.
Thanks guys.
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I don't think you actually have wifi calling, as far as I know only tmo has a Z3 capable of wifi calling and its enabled by them and not Sony. I'm not sure if AT&T has even rolled out wifi calling on any phones yet, they've only stated their iPhones would get it sometime in 2015. Not sure how to solve your issue, but it can't be wifi calling.
hanano17 said:
I don't think you actually have wifi calling, as far as I know only tmo has a Z3 capable of wifi calling and its enabled by them and not Sony. I'm not sure if AT&T has even rolled out wifi calling on any phones yet, they've only stated their iPhones would get it sometime in 2015. Not sure how to solve your issue, but it can't be wifi calling.
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Thanks hanano17
Im not sure what it is exactly. It seems as if it wont switch between wifi and the network to receive calls. I cant turn on my wifi at home because ill miss calls.
Anyone have any other suggestions?
Fredster 6.0 said:
Anyone have any other suggestions?
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The more detail you can provide about what you are attempting to do, what works and what does not, and the settings/state of your phone, the better.
Dumb question first: Are you sure you are on AT&T, not T-Mobile?
Also, is your Z3 T-Mobile branded by any chance? (You might then want to flash debranded Sony firmware... see the Android Development forum).
Do you have cellular coverage in your area? If you turn WiFi off (and be sure Airplane mode is off also!), are you able to send/receive any calls at all? Can you call voicemail? (Note that calling and receiving call is not dependent on data settings, such as APN).
Do you have another SIM nearby that you can try? (e.g. your SO's...)
Are you sure you have not configured your phone for SIP (VoIP)? Go to Settings -> Call Settings -> Internet Call Settings -> Use Internet calling -- make sure that it says Only to SIP address. (Internet calling is great -- I forward calls to my VOIPo number when unavailable/unanswered, where I can also "spoof" my outgoing number to match my cell phone number, receive my voice mails as email attachments, make calls from my computer, etc... but that's probably a couple of steps ahead).
Hlorri said:
The more detail you can provide about what you are attempting to do, what works and what does not, and the settings/state of your phone, the better.
Dumb question first: Are you sure you are on AT&T, not T-Mobile?
Also, is your Z3 T-Mobile branded by any chance? (You might then want to flash debranded Sony firmware... see the Android Development forum).
Do you have cellular coverage in your area? If you turn WiFi off (and be sure Airplane mode is off also!), are you able to send/receive any calls at all? Can you call voicemail? (Note that calling and receiving call is not dependent on data settings, such as APN).
Do you have another SIM nearby that you can try? (e.g. your SO's...)
Are you sure you have not configured your phone for SIP (VoIP)? Go to Settings -> Call Settings -> Internet Call Settings -> Use Internet calling -- make sure that it says Only to SIP address. (Internet calling is great -- I forward calls to my VOIPo number when unavailable/unanswered, where I can also "spoof" my outgoing number to match my cell phone number, receive my voice mails as email attachments, make calls from my computer, etc... but that's probably a couple of steps ahead).
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whats your VOIP service If you dont mind me asking?
daraj said:
whats your VOIP service If you dont mind me asking?
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VOIPo.
I also use PhonePower for my "landline". We have a couple of SIP phones at home, and when going on vacations etc. we simply pick up our "home" calls on our cell phones (using the built-in SIP clients in Android and (gasp) Symbian).
PhonePower is better for international calls (VOIPo has a couple of restrictions, and also does not correctly interpret the "+" prefix in telephone numbers, the way I store them in my phonebook), whereas VOIPo is better as a "transparent" replacement for your cell phone number (if your cell phone is out of coverage, or in airplane mode), in that it can "spoof" the outgoing caller ID to match your cell phone number. (You'll have to verify it first of course).

AT&T and calls over WiFi

It's my understanding after reviewing the thread that wifi calling or native WiFi calling is not possible with AT& T and this device??
Can any other AT & T users please comment on workarounds that you have found?.
I understand that you can use Skype or Hangouts dialer to make calls over WiFi if you're out of cellular service but the problem seems to be what happens when you get incoming calls or if you need calls to go to voicemail. What's your setup?
I currently have an AT & T branded device Samsung and I have native WiFi calling but I hate that I don't have any options for custom roms Etc.
Just trying to make some decisions. Thanks
You are correct. With root you can enable VoLTE with a magisk module. But it's well documented and I can personally testify, that unless a device had at&t firmware or is an iPhone you will not get VoWiFi.. it's the dumbest thing every and I wish the FCC would somehow punish at&t for it... But so goes it.. hit em where it hurts and switch to T-Mobile. No issues there.
Hangouts
If you use Hangouts calls coming in will go to voicemail. You get an email to the acct associated with your google#. Then download the voice file in the email and play. I use wifi calls a lot cause I'm on the T-Mobile 100 minute, 5 gig $30. Plan. Wife's on it also:good:

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