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I charged my grab to 100% and put it to sleep, 13 hours later I was down to 53% battery left. Is that much battery drain typical for standby/sleep?
I also saw the same thing when I got my g tablet over the weekend with Viewsonic's updated TnT. I flashed it to the TnT lite 4.2.3, but it seems still the case.
joe2262 said:
I charged my grab to 100% and put it to sleep, 13 hours later I was down to 53% battery left. Is that much battery drain typical for standby/sleep?
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Unfortunately that seems to be typical for the gtab. Other tablets drain much more slowly. I have been very happy with my gtab aside from the standby battery drain.
Looks like I'll be shutting down instead of sleeping overnight.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=862438
Not the first time this behavior has been noted....
I ran VEGn then TNT 4.2.3 and was amazed at how quickly battery drained while sleeping. I just updated to Clems kernel and it is much much better. I don't think it was actually sleeping before, just powering off the backlight/screen...
I agree, I don't think the sleep is actually sleep. Yesterday, I put my gtab to sleep (from the power menu -> sleep). and I still heard a new email sound, running tnt4.2.2, the tab was probably still running all the background services.
Try it yourself.. put it to sleep and send a gmail to yourself (from a pc or phone)..
EDIT: My wifi is set to NEVER, it may be the cause?
I've been thinking about it and wonder if it's the email program? It wants to check the mail every hour which means re-establishing a wifi connection, get the mail then shut off the wifi. And this happens every hour. To bad the gtab isn't like my iPod touch which lets me retrieve the mail manually. Might have to find an alternate email program, any recommendations?
Just wondering. Have any of you tried removing the cellular stand by apks like in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855812? Or do the roms you have already not have them? I just ordered a gtab and battery is a big thing for me. I hope this is something that can be fixed.
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Just wondering. Have any of you tried removing the cellular stand by apks like in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855812? Or do the roms you have already not have them? I just ordered a gtab and battery is a big thing for me. I hope this is something that can be fixed.
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I don't see them in stock tent.
well in that thread, they note that the stock tnt and tnt lite doesn't have it. CM and Vegan might
Last night I charged my iPod touch too 100% and set the email to hourly and 10 hours later it still had 96%. I also tried shutting the grab completely off overnight and sure enough there was no battery drain.
I think 4% drain per hour during standby is crazy. It really should be around 1% at the most. My HTC HD2 on android use to use a lot of power during stand by until they figured out how to scale the processor speed down when idle. I hope they can do something similar for the G Tab. I suppose it would take some knowledge of how modify the kernal to do so.
I don't have any roms but just the enhancement pack and same thing the battery drains fast if I leave it just sleeping. I have learned to just turn it off when not using it.
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I don't have any roms but just the enhancement pack and same thing the battery drains fast if I leave it just sleeping. I have learned to just turn it off when not using it.
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Well, I think I found the issue - at least in VegaN. The WiFi adapter was running at 100% even while sleeping. Just went to:
Settings -> Wireless settings -> then hit the menu button, and choose "Advanced", then select "WiFi Sleep policy" (It was set to NEVER!)
I chose "Never when plugged in".
I just put it to sleep. We'll see what happens.....
FYI: Vegan has an app built in called "Spare Parts" - That's what told me that my WiFi had been on 100% of the time - even while sleeping!
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Well, I think I found the issue - at least in VegaN. The WiFi adapter was running at 100% even while sleeping. Just went to:
Settings -> Wireless settings -> then hit the menu button, and choose "Advanced", then select "WiFi Sleep policy" (It was set to NEVER!)
I chose "Never when plugged in".
I just put it to sleep. We'll see what happens.....
FYI: Vegan has an app built in called "Spare Parts" - That's what told me that my WiFi had been on 100% of the time - even while sleeping!
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I've had my gtab set to shut off the wifi when it's sleeping for several weeks and while it does help there is still way too much battery drain while it's off. I'm absolutely positive my wifi is off when sleeping because I have to wait for it to start back up and connect to my network after I power it on.
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I've had my gtab set to shut off the wifi when it's sleeping for several weeks and while it does help there is still way too much battery drain while it's off. I'm absolutely positive my wifi is off when sleeping because I have to wait for it to start back up and connect to my network after I power it on.
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I think that's what's causing the high drain. The email, weather and or news apps poll at least each hour requiring the gtab to start and stop the wifi all night when it should be sleeping?
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I think that's what's causing the high drain. The email, weather and or news apps poll at least each hour requiring the gtab to start and stop the wifi all night when it should be sleeping?
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I've tried it both ways and get much more battery drain while sleeping than I'd like. It doesn't appear to start and stop the wifi as you suggest since my email, weather, etc. don't update until I turn it on and my wifi starts up and connects.
Are you running stock TnT?
I'm running vegan 5.1.1
I've been running TeamEOS on my Xoom for quite some time, and it's been great. However, recently the device's battery life has become incredibly poor. For example, today my Xoom has been unplugged for 8 hours 47 minutes, without being used at all, and the battery is at 61%.
Previously, the Battery usage settings view was showing the Wi-Fi in use all day, but today I turned Wi-Fi off and it is still the same. The 'GPS on' line shows one small section of blue (about 10 minutes) and the 'Awake' line shows a few times it has been awake, maybe half an hour in total.
I installed BetterBatteryStats and the longest Kernel Wakelock is PowerManagerService, for 2m 2s, the longest Partial Wakelock is ConnectivityService at 57s.
Under 'Other' it shows that the device was in Deep Sleep for 8h 39m.
Another odd thing is that when I first unplug the device, I get a kernel wakelock on cpcap_otg. If I don't do anything the battery drains even faster than it did today (it never goes into Deep Sleep), but if I plug in my USB card reader (without a card), and then unplug it again, that wakelock doesn't happen again, extending the battery life slightly.
I have a Wingray Xoom (MZ604), and I currently have TeamEOS nightly 114 installed. I have tried various nightlies, back as far as 90, and have also done a factory reset, to no avail. I haven't yet tried going back to Honeycomb, although maybe I should just to check, as it certainly used to work fine under TeamEOS 1.0.
Does anyone know anything else I can try to do to fix this?
James
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I've been running TeamEOS on my Xoom for quite some time, and it's been great. However, recently the device's battery life has become incredibly poor. For example, today my Xoom has been unplugged for 8 hours 47 minutes, without being used at all, and the battery is at 61%.
Previously, the Battery usage settings view was showing the Wi-Fi in use all day, but today I turned Wi-Fi off and it is still the same. The 'GPS on' line shows one small section of blue (about 10 minutes) and the 'Awake' line shows a few times it has been awake, maybe half an hour in total.
I installed BetterBatteryStats and the longest Kernel Wakelock is PowerManagerService, for 2m 2s, the longest Partial Wakelock is ConnectivityService at 57s.
Under 'Other' it shows that the device was in Deep Sleep for 8h 39m.
Another odd thing is that when I first unplug the device, I get a kernel wakelock on cpcap_otg. If I don't do anything the battery drains even faster than it did today (it never goes into Deep Sleep), but if I plug in my USB card reader (without a card), and then unplug it again, that wakelock doesn't happen again, extending the battery life slightly.
I have a Wingray Xoom (MZ604), and I currently have TeamEOS nightly 114 installed. I have tried various nightlies, back as far as 90, and have also done a factory reset, to no avail. I haven't yet tried going back to Honeycomb, although maybe I should just to check, as it certainly used to work fine under TeamEOS 1.0.
Does anyone know anything else I can try to do to fix this?
James
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Battery life seems to be so device specific that it's really difficult to diagnose, tho you seem to be looking in the right places. I'm on 114 as well and my battery life is fine...normal for my device, depending on use. It is said that you need to let a new rom install settle a bit, and I've been told to flash a new rom with a full charge...other than that, I don't know.
It could be some app you recently installed that wakes up your device wifi and consume battery. To diagnose more, get betterbatterystat app.
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It could be some app you recently installed that wakes up your device wifi and consume battery. To diagnose more, get betterbatterystat app.
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He said that is the app he is using. I'm sure, as you said, it is an app causing either wakelock or something syncing in background.
Are you syncing Facebook? I uninstalled the app a long time ago and battery life went up.
Tried wipe battery data in recovery? That may fix your battery issues.
kinda old thread, but if you are still facing battery problems, try this.
go to settings/wifi/advanced and choose never for "keep wifi on during sleep"
I had the exact same problem and it turned out that the device gets a wakeup call from the wifi router every now and then, which keeps it from entering deep sleep mode, resulting in horrible battery stats, running dry after about 1,5 days of just laying around.
Since I did the setting change, my xoom lasts for almost 1,5 weeks at light to medium use (mainly browsing and email) now
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kinda old thread, but if you are still facing battery problems, try this.
go to settings/wifi/advanced and choose never for "keep wifi on during sleep"
I had the exact same problem and it turned out that the device gets a wakeup call from the wifi router every now and then, which keeps it from entering deep sleep mode, resulting in horrible battery stats, running dry after about 1,5 days of just laying around.
Since I did the setting change, my xoom lasts for almost 1,5 weeks at light to medium use (mainly browsing and email) now
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true, but don't forget that will also kill your apps from keeping their state up to date. email push won't work anymore. it's a matter of what you want, i personally rely on the phone for incoming mail and use the xoom for reading with disabled wifi during standby. it's the best of both worlds, instang notification and long battery.
oh, of course you´re right.
I didn´t thought that this could be an issue for other people.
Like you, I get my mails on phone and work on them on tablet.
Like you said,best of both worlds and feels so natural
But I still say, if you can sacrifice the "always-up-to-date" satus on your tab, just do it cause the battery uptime afterwards will be totaly awesome.
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I have a TF700T, unlocked, TWRP and CROMI 3.0.4.
My battery meter is acting weird. For example I recharged both my tab and the dock this afternoon. I unplugged them around 16:30. I've been using my tab for the last few hours (it's now past midnight), not all the time, but quite often. The meter on the tab is still showing 100%. The one for the dock is showing 94%. This is not the normal behavior of my tab and it's been doing that since I unlocked and installed TWRP and CROMI. Before, it would start to go down almost immediately, and would start recharging only at 70%, like it's supposed to.
Last time it stayed at 100% for a while and then started to drain very quickly, and then stabilized and started to act normally.
I'm trying to understand whatcould be the problem. Last time it got "stuck" like that I went to recovery and TWRP was also showing 100% power left. So it's not CROMI. But it's something... Anybody else with the same problem? Or anyone got a solution, an idea? Because I'm worried this will get worse...
Thanks
You could try clearing the battery stats. I think TWRP has the option to do it, not sure about CWM.
Ok thanks sdbags, I'll look into that...
Is there an ideal moment to do that? After a full recharge?
Usually you do 100% charge, clear stats, reboot let it get back to 100% and unplug but to be honest it probably doesn't really matter.
You'll know fairly soon if you still have the problem.
I just checked mine and it started with tablet battery until down to 89%, then dock battery kick in maintain the tablet battery around 89-90%.
The dock shouldn't recharge the tab unless it reaches 70% or lower. At least it's what it was doing before, and what's documented as normal behavior. Since my tab spends 99% of its time docked, I don't know how it would behave undocked...
Looks like it solved the problem for now. Thanks sbdags!
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Well, unfortunately, it isn't solved. When I deleted batterystats.bin it went back to "normal" at first, the tab was fully charged and it started to go down almost immediatly after I unplugged it. But yesterday it died on me while the gauge was still showing a little bit less than 30%!!! I did a full charge last night, and it's back to its old tricks: stucked at 100% for the last 8 hours (overnight).
This is very annoying... Is there anything I can do to recalibrate the battery gauge?
And why is this happening? I didn't have this problem when locked with stock ROM and recovery... I'm not complaining, I just want to understand and maybe try to fix this! Thanks!
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Well, unfortunately, it isn't solved. When I deleted batterystats.bin it went back to "normal" at first, the tab was fully charged and it started to go down almost immediatly after I unplugged it. But yesterday it died on me while the gauge was still showing a little bit less than 30%!!! I did a full charge last night, and it's back to its old tricks: stucked at 100% for the last 8 hours (overnight).
This is very annoying... Is there anything I can do to recalibrate the battery gauge?
And why is this happening? I didn't have this problem when locked with stock ROM and recovery... I'm not complaining, I just want to understand and maybe try to fix this! Thanks!
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Could be a battery hardware issue? Sounds like it's not reporting its current and voltage correctly.
You need to get some battery monitoring apps on it so you can see what is really going on.
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Could be a battery hardware issue? Sounds like it's not reporting its current and voltage correctly.
You need to get some battery monitoring apps on it so you can see what is really going on.
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Could be, but it's weird that it started just after I decided to unlock. It was fine the first 4 months of its life...
Any battery monitoring app you recommend? There are a few on Google Play... I have Battery Widget Reborn, it does some monitoring, but it doesn't provide a lot of information. I'm sure there is an "ultimate battery app" or something... Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated!
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Could be, but it's weird that it started just after I decided to unlock. It was fine the first 4 months of its life...
Any battery monitoring app you recommend? There are a few on Google Play... I have Battery Widget Reborn, it does some monitoring, but it doesn't provide a lot of information. I'm sure there is an "ultimate battery app" or something... Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated!
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Try battery monitor widget. It does everything you need.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
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Try battery monitor widget. It does everything you need.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
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Ok, thanks... Will try that and report!
Ok... So I did some testing... My tab is shutting down (more like crashing) at 28% and showing 6561 mV. I then have to plug it in and wait for 5-8 minutes before it will allow me to boot it.
So I plugged it in... It reached 100% at 8169 mV... But then, it continued to charge. As of now, it is at 8296 and still going up as I'm writing this!!
This issue is the same as issue #2 in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2090826
Now, I don't know, but it look suspicious to me that this problem started when I installed TWRP and CROMI. Could it be related, somehow??
Additionnal details:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41224
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Additionnal details:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41224
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What happens if you wipe the battery stats again?
The only other thing I can recommended is a total wipe, reflash Asus stock to redo the bootloader, TWRP and reflash CROMI. Others don't have this problem so it is something particularly to your setup.
All those posts you linked are pointing to the 4.2.1 update causing the issue. As we only have 4.1.1 I can't see any relationship unless Asus injected some 4.2.1 code into their latest update which seems unlikely.
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What happens if you wipe the battery stats again?
The only other thing I can recommended is a total wipe, reflash Asus stock to redo the bootloader, TWRP and reflash CROMI. Others don't have this problem so it is something particularly to your setup.
All those posts you linked are pointing to the 4.2.1 update causing the issue. As we only have 4.1.1 I can't see any relationship unless Asus injected some 4.2.1 code into their latest update which seems unlikely.
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I wiped the stats yesterday. Looks like it doesn't do much.
I'll go ahead and reflash stock...
Thanks!
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I wiped the stats yesterday. Looks like it doesn't do much.
I'll go ahead and reflash stock...
Thanks!
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I suggest you should do a full wipe and reflash cleanrom and kernel. This way you can eliminated all the possiblility with software and pin it on hardware.
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Could be, but it's weird that it started just after I decided to unlock. It was fine the first 4 months of its life...
Any battery monitoring app you recommend? There are a few on Google Play... I have Battery Widget Reborn, it does some monitoring, but it doesn't provide a lot of information. I'm sure there is an "ultimate battery app" or something... Any suggestion will be greatly appreciated!
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I have the same problem with my battery meter, and just like with you, it started when my TF700T was almost exactly 4 months old. The batteries (dock and tablet) have to be close to drained. I've been using the tablet without batteries for many hours, both yesterday and today. But my tablet battery is showing 100% and the dock battery is at 95%. That has to be wrong.
I have GSam Battery Monitor Pro. It can only tell me about the tablet battery (it's blind to the dock battery). Yesterday when I looked at this, it was telling me that the screen used no power. I'm looking at it now and it says that screen is using 68.6% of the power - that's more like it. But it's weird that yesterday the number was zero. It tells me that the unit has only been unplugged for 5 seconds, and has been telling me that since I unplugged it yesterday. GSam usually saves history, but not in this case because it thinks the unit has only been running on battery power for 5 seconds.
I also have a battery widget that is dual-battery aware. It has a history chart, but it doesn't tell me much. It shows the tablet battery at a constant level of 100% with no dips, and the dock battery very slowly dropping from 100% to 95% over the last two days. This is just wrong.
What's been happening is that the tablet will suddenly shut down when I think it's charged, and then I can't turn it on. I didn't realize what was wrong until I discovered that if I plugged it in for a while, I could turn it on again. Obviously the battery is draining completely, but the meter is incorrect. Also, draining the battery completely then recharging to green (which I hope still means "complete charge") has done nothing to recalibrate the battery.
I'm afraid this is a hardware problem. I guess I need to contact Asus?
I'm also having problems with constant browser crashes - doesn't matter what browser it is, I've tried them all. In general, this tablet has been a huge and expensive disappointment.
Edit: I'm running ICS 4.0.3 stock, rooted but not unlocked. I don't want to upgrade to JB because I need the volume booster app. I've read that the volume problem is just as bad under JB but the volume booster apps don't work (nor do many other programs I use). There is nothing in JB I need. From what I've read, people running JB have all the same browser crash problems, battery meter problems, etc.
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I have the same problem with my battery meter, and just like with you, it started when my TF700T was almost exactly 4 months old. The batteries (dock and tablet) have to be close to drained. I've been using the tablet without batteries for many hours, both yesterday and today. But my tablet battery is showing 100% and the dock battery is at 95%. That has to be wrong.
I have GSam Battery Monitor Pro. It can only tell me about the tablet battery (it's blind to the dock battery). Yesterday when I looked at this, it was telling me that the screen used no power. I'm looking at it now and it says that screen is using 68.6% of the power - that's more like it. But it's weird that yesterday the number was zero. It tells me that the unit has only been unplugged for 5 seconds, and has been telling me that since I unplugged it yesterday. GSam usually saves history, but not in this case because it thinks the unit has only been running on battery power for 5 seconds.
I also have a battery widget that is dual-battery aware. It has a history chart, but it doesn't tell me much. It shows the tablet battery at a constant level of 100% with no dips, and the dock battery very slowly dropping from 100% to 95% over the last two days. This is just wrong.
What's been happening is that the tablet will suddenly shut down when I think it's charged, and then I can't turn it on. I didn't realize what was wrong until I discovered that if I plugged it in for a while, I could turn it on again. Obviously the battery is draining completely, but the meter is incorrect. Also, draining the battery completely then recharging to green (which I hope still means "complete charge") has done nothing to recalibrate the battery.
I'm afraid this is a hardware problem. I guess I need to contact Asus?
I'm also having problems with constant browser crashes - doesn't matter what browser it is, I've tried them all. In general, this tablet has been a huge and expensive disappointment.
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I feel your frustration, I have seen more and more people with this issue. Well, we could say that either software or hardware, (not every situation is the same), so usually I recommend to do a factory reset then reflash a full Asus firmware, if the issue stills existed, then we can assume it's hardware issue. At this point, we can give Asus tech support a call.
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I feel your frustration, I have seen more and more people with this issue. Well, we could say that either software or hardware, (not every situation is the same), so usually I recommend to do a factory reset then reflash a full Asus firmware, if the issue stills existed, then we can assume it's hardware issue. At this point, we can give Asus tech support a call.
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Thanks for your reply. Have you heard back from anyone who has done a factory reset and reflashed the Asus firmware? Has anyone reported the problem going away after that?
The other thing I'm worried about is that it's a hardware problem that Asus doesn't know how to fix because they don't yet know what's causing it. I can't recall anyone saying they've found a solution to this. I've only seen reports of the problem.
I have other serious problems with this tablet, too. It runs short of memory all the time, though this isn't supposed to happen on Androids. I often have to manually clear memory to view screenshots in the Play Store. And the browser is constantly stalling, freezing, and crashing - every browser. I've tried more than 5 of them. This is especially inconvenient for me, since I make heavy use of the browser on the tablet.
I keep thinking of that pressure-sensitive Samsung tablet I almost bought instead...
I don't know what happened, but lately my battery has been about 20% less every day I come home from work. Right now it was down to 9% after only being on for 1d3h, I'm used to getting over 2 days easy on a single charge. I don't think I installed anything recently, and this is running CROMI 3.2.2 with I think the Clemsyn 1.3-1.8GHZ kernel. Any ideas to figure out what's causing the drain?
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I don't know what happened, but lately my battery has been about 20% less every day I come home from work. Right now it was down to 9% after only being on for 1d3h, I'm used to getting over 2 days easy on a single charge. I don't think I installed anything recently, and this is running CROMI 3.2.2 with I think the Clemsyn 1.3-1.8GHZ kernel. Any ideas to figure out what's causing the drain?
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You need to install "betterbatterystats" to find out what's the issue. Any changes in the way you sync email, messages? any app with location service turn on by default?? well, best bet is use the app and find out.
I'll check it out. I didn't change any syncing, the only change I've made is I started using GoogleNow a little more, but I don't think it would make this much of a drastic difference.
Probably a rogue app, as buhohitr said. Reboot two times, install BBS, reboot again, and sniff it out. The reboot number doesn't matter that much, but I strongly advise to reboot in between to see if that solves the problem altogether. If not, BBS has your back.
Noticed last night that installing multiple launchers with 3.3 CROMi is eating more battery.
For instance GO is running while APEX is active.
Each on average are stealing about 3.3%
I do like the switchable launcher feature in 3.3 a lot however.
Never mind. I just noticed that you run custom rom.
I had that problem before I upgraded to 10.4.4.25. The standby battery life was a total nonsense. It would drain in less than 2 days without me even touching the tablet.
Now with 10.4.4.25 I am on 8 and half days and still have 33%. Although they seem to screw up battery stats app in settings.
Well, I installed the battery app, and looks like it was draining at about 1% per hour today while it was sitting idle. Not sure if that's good or not, I had it sitting in balanced mode all day. I do know that I started reading on it when it was at 54%, after about 30 minutes I stopped reading and it was at 50%. I went to bed, went to work, and when I came home it was at about 35%. That just seems like a lot to me.
Not sure if related since your on custom rom, but randomly my battery lasted up to about a day and a half with no use. Batterystatsplus said cell standby and maps was taking all of the power. Cell standby makes no sense and gps was turned off as well. I ended up resetting tab from the recovery menu because these rogue aps made zero sense. Back to 8 days of use.
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Not sure if related since your on custom rom, but randomly my battery lasted up to about a day and a half with no use. Batterystatsplus said cell standby and maps was taking all of the power. Cell standby makes no sense and gps was turned off as well. I ended up resetting tab from the recovery menu because these rogue aps made zero sense. Back to 8 days of use.
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Yep, Google Maps does that. To pretty much everyone.
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I had this problem but with stock 4.2. I narrowed it down to two widgets I had placed on my home screen. BBC news and Appy Geek. I don't know which was was the culprit. Removing them solved my issue completely.
Both running stock or CleanROM I have the issue that when I leave the tablet undocked my battery will last days or weeks with the screen off. When I connect the dock and turn off the screen the dock battery will drain to 0% within a couple days and the tablet battery level would be lower than if I had left it undocked.
I've installed better battery stats and deep sleep batter saver and the device is verified in deep sleep 90% of the time.
Any suggestions?
Think that is how it designed to work. Dock will keep trying to top up the tab when it drops below 70% and then when the dock battery runs out it requires extra juice from the tab to keep it alive.
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Think that is how it designed to work. Dock will keep trying to top up the tab when it drops below 70% and then when the dock battery runs out it requires extra juice from the tab to keep it alive.
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I think my question may have not been clear. One should assume that the addition of a second battery should increase the overall runtime of the device not decrease it. Instead of getting the extra hours of battery life I am getting less battery life with the dock attached.
Same problem
I have the exact same problem. Ive got all the right apps and settings suggested from XDA and still my battery drains when doc is connected.
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I have the exact same problem. Ive got all the right apps and settings suggested from XDA and still my battery drains when doc is connected.
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Same problem since the 4.2 update...
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Same problem since the 4.2 update...
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Ditto, same here.
I'm starting to think this is a common problem, and not just some random one that I was having...
So I installed better battery stats and it is indeed the dock that's draining both it's own battery as well as the infinity's battery. I think I had about 4 hours of asusdec_wake lock coming from the dock when I let it go to sleep, but the strange thing is it only appears to happen after about half an hour of sleep before it kicks in for me (I should point out btw that I'm using a tf201 dock and running cromi-x 4.4 with _that's kernel). After removing the dock from my infinity, I no longer got the battery drain from my tab, but when my tab was docked, the keyboard seemed to drain like crazy along with the infinity, but only after being asleep for about half an hour to an hour. I suppose this is just a 4.2 bug that ASUS might be able to release an update on, or sbdags, as it seems he's done a better job with bug fixes than ASUS has. :laugh:
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I'm starting to think this is a common problem, and not just some random one that I was having...
So I installed better battery stats and it is indeed the dock that's draining both it's own battery as well as the infinity's battery. I think I had about 4 hours of asusdec_wake lock coming from the dock when I let it go to sleep, but the strange thing is it only appears to happen after about half an hour of sleep before it kicks in for me (I should point out btw that I'm using a tf201 dock and running cromi-x 4.4 with _that's kernel). After removing the dock from my infinity, I no longer got the battery drain from my tab, but when my tab was docked, the keyboard seemed to drain like crazy along with the infinity, but only after being asleep for about half an hour to an hour. I suppose this is just a 4.2 bug that ASUS might be able to release an update on, or sbdags, as it seems he's done a better job with bug fixes than ASUS has. :laugh:
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Is sbdags a custom rom? I'm assuming so. Also your use of the tf200 dock should make no difference. Its been proven besides a firmware change and a slight color change the 2 docs are pretty much the same. I also believe this maybe a 4.2 issue however I have seen this before the latest update with my doc. It does appear to kick in after about 30 mins to an hour for me also. I am trying out a new app that I hope will help called DS battery saver. Ive tried others before to no avail but I figured why not give this one a try. I keep my infinity on the doc all the time so I hope they can fix this issue...
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Is sbdags a custom rom? I'm assuming so. Also your use of the tf200 dock should make no difference. Its been proven besides a firmware change and a slight color change the 2 docs are pretty much the same. I also believe this maybe a 4.2 issue however I have seen this before the latest update with my doc. It does appear to kick in after about 30 mins to an hour for me also. I am trying out a new app that I hope will help called DS battery saver. Ive tried others before to no avail but I figured why not give this one a try. I keep my infinity on the doc all the time so I hope they can fix this issue...
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sbdags is the creator of the awesome custom rom, clean rom inheritance xenogenisis, he's also the second poster in this thread. I'm currently running his 4.4 rom and it's incredible! (Thank you @sbdags btw for the amazing rom, you'll get a kind donation once I can get this internship thing figured out :highfive I kind of figured that having a 201 dock wouldn't make a difference, but I just thought I should mention it. As for the draining of the battery, I think we can just assume it's a 4.2.1 bug that can hopefully be patched by ASUS or by one of the awesome developers. I've also tried DS battery saver, and I think it told me the culprit was screen on, but after installing better battery stats, I got a recurring wake lock from the asusdec_lock. Oh well, it's not the worst thing ever right now to just undock the tablet, or remember to shut it off while docked.
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sbdags is the creator of the awesome custom rom, clean rom inheritance xenogenisis, he's also the second poster in this thread. I'm currently running his 4.4 rom and it's incredible! (Thank you @sbdags btw for the amazing rom, you'll get a kind donation once I can get this internship thing figured out :highfive I kind of figured that having a 201 dock wouldn't make a difference, but I just thought I should mention it. As for the draining of the battery, I think we can just assume it's a 4.2.1 bug that can hopefully be patched by ASUS or by one of the awesome developers. I've also tried DS battery saver, and I think it told me the culprit was screen on, but after installing better battery stats, I got a recurring wake lock from the asusdec_lock. Oh well, it's not the worst thing ever right now to just undock the tablet, or remember to shut it off while docked.
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I'm not so sure i want to try custom roms yet. I hate not knowing if its the rom or my tablet when trouble arises. I wonder what it could be in his rom that makes this issue go away or does it not? Was not sure if you were saying it cleared the problem up or not.
I have better battery stats & its telling me asusdec_wake was on for 11h 50min. Not sure what that is, assuming it woke the tablet up. Sounds similar to yours though. I do know the google services was what always shows in the battery stat app by asus. I hate to undock as it involves removing my whole case which protects both doc & tablet.
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I'm not so sure i want to try custom roms yet. I hate not knowing if its the rom or my tablet when trouble arises. I wonder what it could be in his rom that makes this issue go away or does it not? Was not sure if you were saying it cleared the problem up or not.
I have better battery stats and so far it has only reported no stats, so not sure what is draining my tablet. I do know the google services was what always shows in the battery stat app by asus. I hate to undock as it involes removing my whole case.
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Oop, yeah, sorry, I probably should have made that clear that the problem is still present in Clean Rom Xenogenesis 4.4 and most likely with Stock Asus 4.2.1, so flashing a custom Rom won't do anything to solve it to my knowledge, so I wouldn't worry about that. In order for better battery stats to do it's stuff, you need to set it to "since last boot" and then just restart the tablet. At least, that's what I did to make it work. After that, better battery stats will start collecting data about what's waking up your tablet from sleeps, but it's still kind of hard to pinpoint what app is causing the issue.
What we know for sure is that it's something to do with Android 4.2.1 and being connected to the dock while the tablet sleeping is causing it to drain both the batteries of the dock and the tablet, but this doesn't occur when it's disconnected from the dock, and the tablet sleeps just fine. Also not really sure if this is relevant, but when I had my tab sleeping, it went into deep sleep, but after about half an hour of deep sleep, it had that asusdec_wake lock and then it bumped up to I believe 510 mhz for the rest of it's sleeping time. So, maybe it's a stock kernel thing?
Here's what I think is happening.
Asus don't allow deep sleep whilst the device is charging. When using the dock the device thinks is it is charging so doesn't deep sleep. The devices keeps waking, drawing charge from the dock which eventually runs down.
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Here's what I think is happening.
Asus don't allow deep sleep whilst the device is charging. When using the dock the device thinks is it is charging so doesn't deep sleep. The devices keeps waking, drawing charge from the dock which eventually runs down.
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That could be a reason, I'm just confused as to why ASUS would add this, as I never had this problem in 4.1, but after 4.2 it's happened every time I had my tablet in the dock and let it sleep for long periods of time, and it's not cromi 4.4 as it appears to be the case with stock as well. Also, not only the dock drains, but the tablet drains too, but it's only when docked. When I'm not docked, I go about 1% per hour drain, but when I am docked, I'll go about 10 - 15% drain. Oh Asus, you crazy!
Could this be related to the option to wake-up by pressing a key on the dock, by any chance? I could just be spouting rubbish (which wouldn't be a first), but it seems to me that such a setting would require some kind of wake process.
Do you have it enabled?
I vaguely recall there being a similar issue with a fairly similar-named process a while back. I think it was the wakeup setting back then, but it could also have been Maps and Location Services.
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Could this be related to the option to wake-up by pressing a key on the dock, by any chance? I could just be spouting rubbish (which wouldn't be a first), but it seems to me that such a setting would require some kind of wake process.
Do you have it enabled?
I vaguely recall there being a similar issue with a fairly similar-named process a while back. I think it was the wakeup setting back then, but it could also have been Maps and Location Services.
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I froze maps and turned off all location access and turned off all wireless functions (location, bluetooth, wireless, etc.) from my tab and it still occurs. It's possible that it could be the asus power saving thing for the dock which is the only real thing I have enabled for the dock, but I'm away from my tab at the moment, so I can't exactly test this theory yet.
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Here's what I think is happening.
Asus don't allow deep sleep whilst the device is charging. When using the dock the device thinks is it is charging so doesn't deep sleep. The devices keeps waking, drawing charge from the dock which eventually runs down.
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Any idea how to fix?
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... It's possible that it could be the asus power saving thing for the dock which is the only real thing I have enabled for the dock, but I'm away from my tab at the moment, so I can't exactly test this theory yet.
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Based on my observation mentioned option has no infuence on dock draining problem.
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The battery drain is happening to me as well. I couldn't figure out why the stupid thing kept going dead.
Not happy! It's just another problem with this tablet. I wanna like it, but it's one thing after another!
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Anyone find a solution yet? Downgrade the OS?
ryanbadowski said:
The battery drain is happening to me as well. I couldn't figure out why the stupid thing kept going dead.
Not happy! It's just another problem with this tablet. I wanna like it, but it's one thing after another!
-- ok, venting over --
Anyone find a solution yet? Downgrade the OS?
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I believe asus is releasing a new update for our tab in a couple weeks. Over on the tf300 forum, I heard they got a new update that I'm not entirely sure what it fixed, but it may or may not have fixed the battery issue, I'll have to look into that. So I would wait before jumping the gun and downgrading, but that's just me, it's a free country after all.
But as for now, there is no fix that I'm aware of.
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No such problems here - yesterday evening 91%+91%, today morning 89%+89%. Stock deodexed 4.2.1 ROM with _that2 kernel and some apps removed.