Data2SD Questions - Asus Transformer TF700

I'm getting ready to install the data2sd modification on my tablet and had a couple of questions before I went ahead:
1. I have a 64gb Class 10 SD Card. Do I need to allocate all of the 64gb towards the mod, or does it make sense to set some aside for actual storage. Happy to set it all aside if it results in performance improvements, but if the effects are negligible after a certain allocation, I'd rather have a little extra storage room.
2. Is it absolutely necessary that I never remove the sdcard while the tablet is on? Will it result in data corruption or damage to my device if it is accidentally removed while in operation?
3. Does the ASUS Stock FIle Browser become less useful after the modification? Will it be able to still access files in my internal storage and extrernal storage, or should I not install this, and instead use a 3rd party file manager that allows full access. I don't use many ASUS stock apps, but I really like the File Manager they've provided. However if it won't allow me access to all my files, I'm happy to use something else.
Thanks so much.

1. no, yes. The size of the second partition determines the size of apps you can install and data these apps can store.
2. yes, removing the card while the tablet is on may lead to data corruption.
3. I don't remember. At least what it displays as "internal storage" is of course the second partition of your card. Note to self: Maybe it would be a good idea to mount the real internal storage in /Removable, then the Asus file manager should be able to see it.

just to confirm that _that is also correct on item #3.

buhohitr said:
just to confirm that _that is also correct on item #3.
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Thank you both for your help. I've gone ahead and installed the mod. I think things are smoother, but is there a way to check that the mod is actually working? I'm sure this is a dumb question, but is there something I can run to confirm the data2sd mod is in effect?

nsharma2 said:
Thank you both for your help. I've gone ahead and installed the mod. I think things are smoother, but is there a way to check that the mod is actually working? I'm sure this is a dumb question, but is there something I can run to confirm the data2sd mod is in effect?
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sure, you can check in for the folder "sdcardi" located in /, the data2sd data folder should now be /sdcard and the /sdcardi is your internal storage or download androbench from the market and run a "micro" check, the result should be 0.3mb/s or more for RANDOM WRITE speed.

buhohitr said:
sure, you can check in for the folder "sdcardi" located in /, the data2sd data folder should now be /sdcard and the /sdcardi is your internal storage or download androbench from the market and run a "micro" check, the result should be 0.3mb/s or more for RANDOM WRITE speed.
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First part seems to check out. But RANDOM WRITE is coming out to 219.83 MB/s. Worried that something may not have gone right in my installation.
For reference, my sdcard is a SanDisk Ultra 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card. I did a bit of quick research before buying this, and it is supposed to function just fine for the data2sd mod.
Any thoughts?

nsharma2 said:
First part seems to check out. But RANDOM WRITE is coming out to 219.83 MB/s. Worried that something may not have gone right in my installation.
For reference, my sdcard is a SanDisk Ultra 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card. I did a bit of quick research before buying this, and it is supposed to function just fine for the data2sd mod.
Any thoughts?
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It could be getting that speed because its actually cacheing on ram an so isnt realy accurate at all. Happens to me on my s3 but only if i test internal sd not external
EDIT: for point 2. I dont think it can corrupt anything on the device. Just the contents of the external sd
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nsharma2 said:
First part seems to check out. But RANDOM WRITE is coming out to 219.83 MB/s. Worried that something may not have gone right in my installation.
For reference, my sdcard is a SanDisk Ultra 64GB MicroSDXC Class 10 UHS-1 Memory Card. I did a bit of quick research before buying this, and it is supposed to function just fine for the data2sd mod.
Any thoughts?
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The reason you see that crazy number because you have fsync disabled, download the trickster mod app from the market and you can use this app to enable fsync (no need to reboot). Once fsync is enabled now you can read the real speed of your card. Also if you don't use autodetect data2sd kernel (_that kernel), then you also do this, power down your device, remove the microsdcard, then power it back on, you should receive an "encryption error" message.or just look for the /sdcardi directory, if it existed, you're using data2sd.

buhohitr said:
The reason you see that crazy number because you have fsync disabled, download the trickster mod app from the market and you can use this app to enable fsync (no need to reboot). Once fsync is enabled now you can read the real speed of your card. Also if you don't use autodetect data2sd kernel (_that kernel), then you also do this, power down your device, remove the microsdcard, then power it back on, you should receive an "encryption error" message.or just look for the /sdcardi directory, if it existed, you're using data2sd.
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I do indeed have fsync disabled. I have the /sdcardi folder and when I remove the sdcard, I get the encryption error message. Looks like it's working!
Thanks to all!

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Memhack

There are various mentions of a "memhack" to apply to the Milestone which apparently frees up some RAM. It also apparently can cause problems when flashing a different SBF.
Could someone help me out here by clarifying exactly what the memhack does and what are the circumstances under which it can cause problems?
Looks like this never got an answer, but now I'm seeing that some of the custom nandroid backups here make reference to using memhack. Could someone help me clarify this? I find a lot of Google hits but no explanations except in German... and it doesn't translate very well.
memhack does not free RAM but storage space. It simply moves the cache partition so you get more space for installing apps. As long as you wipe everything when restoring different nandroid backups, I don't think you can really have any issues. Also I don't really think it can affect your ability to flash SBF's. Maybe OTA updates could only be affected as cache gets moved where OTA upgrades are supposed to be downloaded and unpacked.
cmstlist said:
Looks like this never got an answer, but now I'm seeing that some of the custom nandroid backups here make reference to using memhack. Could someone help me clarify this? I find a lot of Google hits but no explanations except in German... and it doesn't translate very well.
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If you open the script, if I recall correctly, it tries to move the dalvik-cache from the system partition to the cache partition, thus saving you space on the system partition.
i believe the latest version of apps2sd does this automatically ? i've got apps, apps-private and dalvik-cache on my sd card now...
somethingdope said:
i believe the latest version of apps2sd does this automatically ? i've got apps, apps-private and dalvik-cache on my sd card now...
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Yeah, if you have apps2sd you don't need to apply memhack. In fact, it might mess up your device since the symbolic links for dalvik-cache should be pointing to the SD card, not the cache partition.
Thanks for clarifying. I'm starting to run low on app space on my Milestone but I'm not keen to use the apps2sd hack as I've heard it can cause all sorts of trouble. Not impressed that official Froyo is so far away.
cmstlist said:
Thanks for clarifying. I'm starting to run low on app space on my Milestone but I'm not keen to use the apps2sd hack as I've heard it can cause all sorts of trouble. Not impressed that official Froyo is so far away.
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It's really not that hard once you understand how all of these things work. "Memhack" is too 'scary' a name for a simple thing.
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Yeah, if you have apps2sd you don't need to apply memhack. In fact, it might mess up your device since the symbolic links for dalvik-cache should be pointing to the SD card, not the cache partition.
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this is not correct.. its actually a worst case scenario, and /dalvik-cache should only be on sdcard, when you're a apps hungry person that cannot work with 100MB free for the purpose..
current disadvantages on milestone for using dalvik on sdcard;
- unstable and slow ext2 kernel module..
- lacks direct io support
- slows phone if sdcard is class2 only.
- no support for wipe of /dalvik-cache folders with any current recovery.
- not a solution if no sdcard is present or paritioned correctly.
(suddenly /data is full?)
Advantage over sdcard pointers for dalvik are;
- faster seek times
- faster loading
- easier cleanup if required when switching roms
- still works even without sdcard inserted.
but if people dont care or know the consequences of their changes, they just accept.
Dexter_nlb said:
this is not correct.. its actually a worst case scenario, and /dalvik-cache should only be on sdcard, when you're a apps hungry person that cannot work with 100MB free for the purpose..
current disadvantages on milestone for using dalvik on sdcard;
- unstable and slow ext2 kernel module..
- lacks direct io support
- slows phone if sdcard is class2 only.
- no support for wipe of /dalvik-cache folders with any current recovery.
- not a solution if no sdcard is present or paritioned correctly.
(suddenly /data is full?)
Advantage over sdcard pointers for dalvik are;
- faster seek times
- faster loading
- easier cleanup if required when switching roms
- still works even without sdcard inserted.
but if people dont care or know the consequences of their changes, they just accept.
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I actually didn't experience any performance gain or loss when moving my dalvik cache to my Class 6 card. I also have no need to remove my SD card. Of course most people should be aware that moving anything to SD requires at least a Class 6 (usually) if you want any kind of performance.
dsixda said:
I actually didn't experience any performance gain or loss when moving my dalvik cache to my Class 6 card. I also have no need to remove my SD card. Of course most people should be aware that moving anything to SD requires at least a Class 6 (usually) if you want any kind of performance.
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Classes don't mean much for SD cards. They do to an extent, but in the end you really need to rely on benchmarks.
Class simply means minimum speed. A Class 6 card could run as slow as 6 MB/sec or go as fast as 20 MB/sec. Not sure.
I have a Sandisk Class 4 8gb microSDHC card. I saw the 16gb benched at 15MB/sec or so. I can hit 18-19MB/sec on mine.
This is considerably faster than the 16gb Class 2 that my Milestone shipped with. It's also considerably faster than the 16gb Class 6 Transcend I wanted to get. But remember my Class 4 promises 4 MB/sec transfers. These speed tests I've done are pretty darn fast.
Another example is my Class 6 Transcend 16gb SDHC (not micro) for my Canon Rebel camera. I benched it around 8.9 MB/sec. That's within Class 6 limits, but presumably my Class 4 8gb microSDHC Sandisk mounted on an adapter should do even better fine if I was able to bench it at 18 MB/sec on my computer....
So it's hard to say. If a Class 2 is really Class 2 at its minimum 2mb/sec, that's a pretty darn slow card.
Ok well I was getting close to that 20 MB "low memory" threshold so I memhacked using GOT OpenRecovery 1.04a. Nandroid backup first of course. Available space has skyrocketed to 91 MB! Sweet.

/mnt/sdcard and /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD

The internal memory in the G2x is treated as an SD card in many apps (because it's mounted on stock at /mnt/sdcard). This can pose a problem with applications that store lots of data. Users have large external micro SD cards for this purpose, but many applications just blindly choose to install to /mnt/sdcard. The user has no option of saving to the external card.
Has anyone figured out a way to 'fool' applications into thinking the "External SD" card is actually at /mnt/sdcard?
As an example, if each file system supported symlinks, the amazon mp3 player app could be fooled by:
ln -s /mnt/sdcard/_ExternalSD/amazonmp3 /mnt/sdcard/amazonmp3
Of course, this won't work when working with SD cards, as they use FAT partitioning which does not support symlinks.
Anyone mess with this and have a 'suggested' way to 'fool' apps into using the external SD card for more storage?
Edit: I have tried swapping mount locations of the two cards in /etc/vold.fstab. This worked, kinda. USB storage mode just hangs when enabled and the computer sees a drive it can't read (and asks you to format it).
Ive been trying to figure out a solution for this since I got my G2x, cause I just have too many gameloft games LOL
Came up w/ the same syslink idea but FAT doesnt support such a simple idea. We can link between an EXT and FAT, but not FAT to FAT, it seems.
This probably requires edits to the kernel init files for a true solution
The vold method would work if there were edits to the kernel, so you had half the solution. Ran into the same mounting bug. Wonder if one if those dual mount apps would work. hmmm
Cm7 fixes this.
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r4d14n7 said:
Cm7 fixes this.
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I noticed this when I ran CM7 for a while. If I remember correctly, it mounts the internal to /mnt/emmc and external to /mnt/sdcard.
Unfortunately, there are a few issues that CM7 has that prevent me from keeping it as my daily driver OS (bluetooth issues, worse camera app, slow to no GPS locking, G2/3/4 data does not enable after wifi disconnect, and a few more). As it matures it could become the solution for me.
Thanks
zimphishmonger said:
Ive been trying to figure out a solution for this since I got my G2x, cause I just have too many gameloft games LOL
Came up w/ the same syslink idea but FAT doesnt support such a simple idea. We can link between an EXT and FAT, but not FAT to FAT, it seems.
This probably requires edits to the kernel init files for a true solution
The vold method would work if there were edits to the kernel, so you had half the solution. Ran into the same mounting bug. Wonder if one if those dual mount apps would work. hmmm
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Thanks for the info. At least I now know there is not a simple solution that was escaping me
Why not, then, just reformat the microSD card to a file system that supports symlinks? Backup your data off it first, of course lol.
Can you do that? Will it still be treated as an internal SD card then (for example, able to be accessed via USB on my computer)?
I did some reading about partitioning both the external and internal SD cards to ext3/4, but people didn't seem to have a "flawless" experience. This wasn't specific to the G2x however.
AustinPowersISU said:
I noticed this when I ran CM7 for a while. If I remember correctly, it mounts the internal to /mnt/emmc and external to /mnt/sdcard.
Unfortunately, there are a few issues that CM7 has that prevent me from keeping it as my daily driver OS (bluetooth issues, worse camera app, slow to no GPS locking, G2/3/4 data does not enable after wifi disconnect, and a few more). As it matures it could become the solution for me.
Thanks
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I'll be more specific. There was a fix for CM7 users to reverse the roles of internal and external storage somewhere in the monster CM7 threads. You could try this fix in reverse to the ROM of your choice. Just search the CM7 thread for information on how to swap internal for external. May or may not work.
r4d14n7 said:
I'll be more specific. There was a fix for CM7 users to reverse the roles of internal and external storage somewhere in the monster CM7 threads. You could try this fix in reverse to the ROM of your choice. Just search the CM7 thread for information on how to swap internal for external. May or may not work.
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Thanks,
I decided that the lack of being able to do this on stock was enough to go to CM7 again. The issues I described before are less annoying (to me) than not being able to save stuff to my external SD. Plus CM7 will always be getting updated as well.
Thanks for the help everyone.
Thread moved to proper forum.
phburks said:
Why not, then, just reformat the microSD card to a file system that supports symlinks? Backup your data off it first, of course lol.
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Cause I still mount to a Win7 machine sometimes
zimphishmonger said:
Cause I still mount to a Win7 machine sometimes
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I used to use this with XP.
http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
Haven't tried it with Windows 7. Maybe I'll do that tonight lol. There are some other standalone utilities for windows 7 that let you access ext2/3 file systems but I like this one because it lets windows access them as native file systems so you can access them through windows explorer, etc.
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AustinPowersISU said:
Can you do that? Will it still be treated as an internal SD card then (for example, able to be accessed via USB on my computer)?
I did some reading about partitioning both the external and internal SD cards to ext3/4, but people didn't seem to have a "flawless" experience. This wasn't specific to the G2x however.
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I'll do some experimenting around. Not really sure.
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Linux/Android OS newbie question

I'd like to search this forum for help, but am uneducated enough on the internals of the android OS that I'm not sure what to search for.
i'll ask my question expecting an answer on either (1) how to search for such information in the future, or (2) how to solve the issue.
I installed a 16GB class 10 SD card in my transformer keyboard and would like to edit the appropriate config files so that all future software installs and downloads are on that storage card rather than the internal 16GB memory. So my question is what files do i edit to accomplish this?
thanks...
marvin
You want Apps2SD. Unfortunately, unless something has changed recently, you can't use it on your TF.
www.transformerforums.com/forum/asus-transformer-help/3514-tf-not-letting-me-move-apps-sd-save-things-sd.html#post27629
mncessna said:
I'd like to search this forum for help, but am uneducated enough on the internals of the android OS that I'm not sure what to search for.
i'll ask my question expecting an answer on either (1) how to search for such information in the future, or (2) how to solve the issue.
I installed a 16GB class 10 SD card in my transformer keyboard and would like to edit the appropriate config files so that all future software installs and downloads are on that storage card rather than the internal 16GB memory. So my question is what files do i edit to accomplish this?
thanks...
marvin
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I'd probably try searching for "Move apps to SD" if I was searching for that topic(I know it's hard to figure out the right search terms sometimes, but by posting in Q&A, you've at least posted a fair question in the right place), here's my answer in two parts:
1. I don't think Apps2SD would work with the Dock SD slot.
2. You have the entire 16/32GB internal storage shared between apps and the /sdcard mount. Is that really not enough space?
Also, the internal storage is faster than a Class 10 card, so there will be a performance hit running from SD.
thanks...you've given me food for thought
2. You have the entire 16/32GB internal storage shared between apps and the /sdcard mount. Is that really not enough space?
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there's never enough space!! I've always attempted to offload temp files, downloads, and various other files from the same partition as the OS. prevents excessive fragmentation etc. i'm assuming this would still be an issue even with non-spinning storage, maybe it isn't?
Also, the internal storage is faster than a Class 10 card, so there will be a performance hit running from SD.
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now that's an interesting comment. i thought Class 10 was the fastest AND that internal storage on the transformer was the same technology. Hmmm.....more research for me.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the information and advice.
marvin
mncessna said:
there's never enough space!! I've always attempted to offload temp files, downloads, and various other files from the same partition as the OS. prevents excessive fragmentation etc. i'm assuming this would still be an issue even with non-spinning storage, maybe it isn't?
now that's an interesting comment. i thought Class 10 was the fastest AND that internal storage on the transformer was the same technology. Hmmm.....more research for me.
thanks for the information and advice.
marvin
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Theoretically, fragmentation can slow a flash drive down, but I've never known anybody to notice the difference or to bother with defragmenting regularly on a flash device. Maybe somebody here is into that, but it's just not practical IMHO. Apps2SD is for people who run out of internal space and need MORE room for apps. If you are pushing 12gb (the ballpark usable space on the internal memory of the TF) of apps, you need to get back into the work force. You're better off trying to keep large data files on the removable drive first, even if it means just relocating them every once in a while.
The bottom line is, the way the Transformer treats the built-in memory as an SD card is going to be an issue when trying to use an external card for Apps2SD (which I still haven't heard of anybody succeeding at), but you may be able to set your default download folder to the removable card. If you're dealing with a browser, it would depend on which one. If you're doing your own file transfers, just get a file manager that allows you to set your "home" directory and point it to the /Removable/MicroSD directory.
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Theoretically, fragmentation can slow a flash drive down, but I've never known anybody to notice the difference or to bother with defragmenting regularly on a flash device. Maybe somebody here is into that, but it's just not practical IMHO.
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Even on hard drive it's most of the time not worth the effort. On SSD just forget about fragmentation.
i thought the reason fragmentation is a performance hit for HDDs is due to the fact it has to spin to get to the rest of the file.
SSD does not need anything like that.
fragmentation causes delays
finalhit said:
i thought the reason fragmentation is a performance hit for HDDs is due to the fact it has to spin to get to the rest of the file.
SSD does not need anything like that.
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a disk read consists of a seek op to place the read head over the correct cylinder, then rotational delay while the correct sector rotates under the head, then a data read, and then a transfer to core memory. when a file is fragmented, this operation is repeated multiple times in order to read the entire file into memory. disk drives are pretty fast these days, but they are still the slowest part of most modern computers. cpus and memory are very fast, but disk drives slow things up, therefore, adding to io delays with fragmented files is a real performance hit.
however, i have no data on how fragmentation affects flash memory...perhaps not at all?!.
thanks to all for inputs.
Here's one perspective on flash fragmentation:
www.wizcode.com/articles/comments/flash_memory_fragmentation_myths_and_facts/

Save to MicroSD?

This is my first tablet so please forgive these dumb questions. I've been spoiled for years with CM# on my phones so I'm having a hard time adapting.
Is there a way to force apps to use the MicroSD card when saving? Example: In Dolphin HD, you can set your download directory. It defaults to "/mnt/sdcard" which is internal memory. I want to change it to "/Removable/MicroSD" but it keeps telling me that path is not available and to pick another. I googled a bit but all they tell me to do is save to internal then copy to external. I know I'm going to get tired of that really soon...
Some apps allow me to save to the external card. I set K-9 to download attachments to the card and it took the path but when I actually save an attachment, it says it's successful but I can't find the attachment in either internal and external memory. And yes, I did confirm I typed in the right path.
Any suggestions?
TIA
I don't know if this is the issue, but ASUS has decided to mount the external memory cards under a directory in the root directory ("/Removable/microSD" and "/Removable/SD"). Have you rooted your TF700? Most other systems I've used (the SGS2 primarily,and the LG O2x) had the external cards mounted under /mnt/sdcard/(_)External_SD, or under "mnt/emmc" as is the case under CM#. It might drop down to not having write access to these directories (although that'd be strange and never encountered efore on my devices, at least)...
EDIT: under Opera, for example, I can save an embedded image on XDA on the external microSD and I can find it with Total Commander (and open it with QuickPic).Still, I'm rooted.
MartyHulskemper said:
I don't know if this is the issue, but ASUS has decided to mount the external memory cards under a directory in the root directory ("/Removable/microSD" and "/Removable/SD"). Have you rooted your TF700? Most other systems I've used (the SGS2 primarily,and the LG O2x) had the external cards mounted under /mnt/sdcard/(_)External_SD, or under "mnt/emmc" as is the case under CM#. It might drop down to not having write access to these directories (although that'd be strange and never encountered efore on my devices, at least)...
EDIT: under Opera, for example, I can save an embedded image on XDA on the external microSD and I can find it with Total Commander (and open it with QuickPic).Still, I'm rooted.
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Thank you for the reply. I haven't rooted yet but plan to do so this weekend. I'll see if that makes any difference.
as for reading from the card, yes, I can confirm that I can do the same - anything I put on the external card, my apps can read from it. I just can't seem to make apps write to that card, only internal.
Thanks!
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Thank you for the reply. I haven't rooted yet but plan to do so this weekend. I'll see if that makes any difference.
as for reading from the card, yes, I can confirm that I can do the same - anything I put on the external card, my apps can read from it. I just can't seem to make apps write to that card, only internal.
Thanks!
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You're welcome. Indeed, I meant that I can save an online image using my browser of choice onto the external memory. That's what seems to be the bottleneck in your case.
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You're welcome. Indeed, I meant that I can save an online image using my browser of choice onto the external memory. That's what seems to be the bottleneck in your case.
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Thanks for the explanation. Yes, I can confirm Opera works as advertised. Seems to be the only browser that can.
Stock and FF do not allow custom download directories
Dolphin HD didn't accept paths to external memory (and won't allow downloads larger than 2GB )
Chrome didn't allow downloads at all :crying:
Thanks again!

How to swap internal memory and SD card on X2?

I have 701 with standard firmware + root. I want to swap internal memory with external SD card. I wanted to use this software:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pr.swap.sd&hl=en
But it requires XPosed framework. So I looked for it, and below are the instructions for EMUI 3.1, but my device has version 3.0.5:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-workaround-running-xposed-t3338765
Because I have earlier version, I am afraid to install and brick my device.
I also checked the common method by editing config file vold.fstab , but it appears Huawei changed even this part and this file is not even there:
https://ibb.co/dEOhq5
I would like to not update the firmware and EMUI as I am little experienced and am afraid to brick my device. Also, I wonder if that PR Swap app simply wouldn't try to edit the vold.fstab file, which is not there, and fail anyhow ...
Could you please give me an advice how could I do the swap?
So, after working for a while I found out that this phone surprisingly has this built-in feature for swapping the memories:
Settings>Storage>Default location> (Select SD card)
After doing this, the phone restarts and all regular apps "thinks" that SD card is internal memory. However, the system of the phone itself actually "knows" what is what and continues to install the apps to the real internal memory.
I did this experiment: uninstalled facebook, messenger and skype, ran CCleaner. Internal memory had 5.06 GB used.
Then I installed these three apps back, and then internal memory had 5.5 GB used (external 64 GB SD card had the same amount of memory used - so nothing by default went to SD card)
Finally I moved these 3 apps to "SD Card" using app manager, and then internal memory had 5.3 GB used.
A couple notices I made:
1. After changing default location to "SD card", some data (probably) is actually moved to external memory, and now the phone needs more time to start. And I mean noticeably more time, like 4-5 minutes to boot fully. As I don't turn off my phone often so this is not a problem for me. (I noticed no difference in loading time of the apps)
2. I am almost certain that after setting default location to SD card the phone allows to move more apps to external memory. Also, the phone probably moved some system data to the SD card. Now there is a reasonable amount of free space in internal memory, so I am happy
Hi @astuntas , I have a quick question for regarding this feature. Using this setting, does the APK also get stored on the External MicroSD card?
My Internal Storage is so full that I often get the permanent notification that i am critically low even after I moved some apps to SD card in the Android Application settings because it looks like the APK itself still doesn't get moved and stays on the Internal Storage.
I was going to use the app called "Apps2SD Pro" which I bought from the Play Store and re-partition my MicroSD card but if the Android OS can do this natively then I would rather do that instead.
Please let me know, thanks.
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E--Man said:
Hi @astuntas , I have a quick question for regarding this feature. Using this setting, does the APK also get stored on the External MicroSD card?
My Internal Storage is so full that I often get the permanent notification that i am critically low even after I moved some apps to SD card in the Android Application settings because it looks like the APK itself still doesn't get moved and stays on the Internal Storage.
I was going to use the app called "Apps2SD Pro" which I bought from the Play Store and re-partition my MicroSD card but if the Android OS can do this natively then I would rather do that instead.
Please let me know, thanks.
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For me the emui settings SD card storage is for son data only. But I never verified it.
to get more internal storage make sure you did move all movable apps to your external SD (AppMgrIII from pkaystire will tell you that). It will also let you clean your apps cache, Hicham could get back a lot of free space.
Apps SD pro must be a link2sd like app. They were used a lot on older device, mediapad x2 shouldn't be so dependent to these apps. More over they could Slow some app access, and sometimes make the device reboot.
One thing I know, is that android 6 does not over link2sd feature natively, as far as I know.
Give it a try anyway, it free internal space for sure, in a big amount.
As you are root, I suppose you've deblaoted you device?
Djiban said:
For me the emui settings SD card storage is for son data only. But I never verified it.
to get more internal storage make sure you did move all movable apps to your external SD (AppMgrIII from pkaystire will tell you that). It will also let you clean your apps cache, Hicham could get back a lot of free space.
Apps SD pro must be a link2sd like app. They were used a lot on older device, mediapad x2 shouldn't be so dependent to these apps. More over they could Slow some app access, and sometimes make the device reboot.
One thing I know, is that android 6 does not over link2sd feature natively, as far as I know.
Give it a try anyway, it free internal space for sure, in a big amount.
As you are root, I suppose you've deblaoted you device?
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Hi Djiban, I have debloated some apps yes but I despite this I just have downloaded a lot of little "lite" apps I find useful which take up a lot of space, especially the APK. These days it seems many apps (APK file size) just take up more space than they should. Just the stupid McDonald's app takes up more than 50MB and they all add up. It would be nice if Android natively was able to store the APK on the external SD card and not just some data files which it currently does now because the APK is what seems to be the majority of the space contents.
BTW, does EMUI B212 have "su.d" support or "init.d" support? I'm sure you or @ajsmsg78 knows this! Thanks guys.
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Hi Djiban, I have debloated some apps yes but I despite this I just have downloaded a lot of little "lite" apps I find useful which take up a lot of space, especially the APK. These days it seems many apps (APK file size) just take up more space than they should. Just the stupid McDonald's app takes up more than 50MB and they all add up. It would be nice if Android natively was able to store the APK on the external SD card and not just some data files which it currently does now because the APK is what seems to be the majority of the space contents.
BTW, does EMUI B212 have "su.d" support or "init.d" support? I'm sure you or @ajsmsg78 knows this! Thanks guys.
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Stock emui roms don't have init.d support. Kangvip slim does.
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Stock emui roms don't have init.d support. Kangvip slim does.
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Ha, incentive to switch! How about SU.d then? Some apps like AFWall and Apps2SD require either/or su.d or init.d.
Edit: I use SuperSU in case it makes a difference.
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Ha, incentive to switch! How about SU.d then? Some apps like AFWall and Apps2SD require either/or su.d or init.d.
Edit: I use SuperSU in case it makes a difference.
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KangVIP Slim is what you want.

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