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A while back I rooted and flashed Revolution HD 3.6.4 on my Sensation without any issues; noticed immediate improvements, and was really pleased with the performance and battery life. Only issue was the occasional boot loop which I remedied by flashing a Bricked kernel.
Fast forward to two nights ago…
My parents also have Sensations and were not very happy with them so I convinced them let me root them which I did.
I did to their phones exactly what I did to mine, including; s-off, perma root, CWM, nandroid backup, flash ARHD 3.6.4 w/ bricked kernel.
The weird part is both of them are now having identical issues with their phones; really slow, 4hr battery life and laggy.
However…
I was sure to wipe the battery stats by draining the battery to complete shutoff, recharging to 100% (basically overnight 8hr+ charge) and erase battery stats from within CWM
I did not do a Titanium backup because a)they really didn’t have much installed, app-wise and b)I thought a fresh install would be cleaner without trying to recover any settings
I made sure to run the Revolution HD Super wipe before flashing the Rom
Installed the HTC Bricked kernel
The only thing different about their phones than my phone is they never applied the official HTC OTA major update. I went into this thinking it would not matter since we’re installing a new rom anyway but perhaps I’m wrong???
Why would two freshly-rooted phones exhibit the same issues?
I’m planning on re-flashing their phones later this week with the newer ARHD 3.6.5 rom (which I just did to mine ) hoping this will clear up any issues they’re having but want to make sure I’m not doing something wrong first…
Let me ask a more direct question.
Can I flash the new Revolution HD 3.6.5 (including the bundled faux kernel) to a phone that has not had the HTC Sense OTA update? Or will issues arise?
I think the problem is radio wise. Install the recommended radio and see if it solve the problem
OKors said:
Let me ask a more direct question.
Can I flash the new Revolution HD 3.6.5 (including the bundled faux kernel) to a phone that has not had the HTC Sense OTA update? Or will issues arise?
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Hi,
The issue is most probably the kernel.
Try installing the latest.
You have two choices.
1.faux.(in my sig)
2.bricked.(HERE)
Seeing as you have two phones to play with,why not try one on each.
malybru said:
Hi,
The issue is most probably the kernel.
Try installing the latest.
You have two choices.
1.faux.(in my sig)
2.bricked.(HERE)
Seeing as you have two phones to play with,why not try one on each.
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I flashed both their phones with the bricked kernel when I installed the rom originally.
If the problem isn't due to the older Sense version being installed what I plan on doing is flash both phones with ARHD 3.6.5 and leave the bundled kernel installed (have the 3.6.5 with new faux on my phone and so far so good).
I can try the radio flash also but I never had to flash the radio on my phone and all three phones are identical (bought them at the exact same time; family plan-thing).
OKors said:
I flashed both their phones with the bricked kernel when I installed the rom originally.
If the problem isn't due to the older Sense version being installed what I plan on doing is flash both phones with ARHD 3.6.5 and leave the bundled kernel installed (have the 3.6.5 with new faux on my phone and so far so good).
I can try the radio flash also but I never had to flash the radio on my phone and all three phones are identical (bought them at the exact same time; family plan-thing).
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Hi,
I have never updated via OTA,and I never will.(Do not trust what it will do to my phone)
There are known issues with the bundled kernels.
Both of the latest kernels have had good reviews.
Just saying.
The OTA could've updated your radio.
Sent from my Sensation using XDA Premium App
Check if you have recommended radio or not. If not, flash recommended radio. Then,
Try to download ARHD 3.6.5 (check MD5), download latest kenels of your choice.
- Super wipe
- Flash Room, and reboot (just set up phone, dont set google account and facebook yet).
- If you want do flash roomcleaner: reboot into recovery and flash roomcleaner.
- If not, just reboot in recovery, wipe cache and wipe davik cache, then flash kenel of your choice.
- Reboot, set up your google account, facebook account, email account, etc...
- If phone experiences a bit lag during turning page to page in homescreen. Just reboot again. After that you can do all battery calibration, flashing mods or themes.
It may be too careful but that just to make sure I dont mess up everything with flashing.
Hope this help!
stevendph said:
Check if you have recommended radio or not. If not, flash recommended radio. Then,
Try to download ARHD 3.6.5 (check MD5), download latest kenels of your choice.
- Super wipe
- Flash Room, and reboot (just set up phone, dont set google account and facebook yet).
- If you want do flash roomcleaner: reboot into recovery and flash roomcleaner.
- If not, just reboot in recovery, wipe cache and wipe davik cache, then flash kenel of your choice.
- Reboot, set up your google account, facebook account, email account, etc...
- If phone experiences a bit lag during turning page to page in homescreen. Just reboot again. After that you can do all battery calibration, flashing mods or themes.
It may be too careful but that just to make sure I dont mess up everything with flashing.
Hope this help!
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Hi,
ROM cleaner is flashed immediately after flashing the ROM, without any reboot.
Thanks for all the advice. I just got a call from my mom today saying her phone dies real fast and every time she takes a photo the screen goes black resulting in a battery-pull.
I gotta fix their ****z pronto.
I hyped the whole rooting thing up pretty good after flashing my phone, so far their experiences are pretty bad.
@ stevendph, I'll do exactly as you outlined. Thanks for the step by step.
fwiw the radio is whatever was on the phone from the time of purchase. Ill flash it as well with the 'recommend' radio.
So the consensus is to go back to the Bricked kernel and overwrite the new "updated" Faux kernel bundled in the ROM???
malybru said:
Hi,
ROM cleaner is flashed immediately after flashing the ROM, without any reboot.
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Yep, it's can be flashed immediately or after 1st reboot, the result will be the same as roomcleaner's function is to delete system apps, files, skin and wallpaper (which are useless or you dont use). Those also can do it manually but yes painfull .
As i stated before, it's just i am doing carefully to watch if is there anything wrong with room flashing, then continue flash other things. What i did was flash, check, flash, check... until having what neccessary -->nandroid backup, flash, check, etc . Just me to be careful
@Okors: related to kenels, just make sure you notice this.
- Faux latest kenels 0.24r1 is really good and stable (if you have 0.24 beta 7, you dont need to update, as they are same).
- Bricked kenels: v1.5 final has the problem with camera, playback video (sometimes for some devices) as blackscreen, freezing. Version 1.4r1 is really good and stable (without Zram enable). Version 1.5 beta #490 with zram, working great for me anytime including camera, playback, etc... but there are reports from someone that they have lags (i dont)...
That's all what i know when testing and reading reports about these kenels, you have the right to choose what is suite for you.
I would just flash Pyramid 3D and 0.91 Bricked, check if GPS and camera work, then call it a day. If GPS doesn't work you could always try my fix or crypted's, boh are flashable.
Pyramid 3D has been the most stable and the fastest out of all the ROMs that I've tried without having to extensively customize for myself. Honestly though, I would just flash your parents stock again. Doesn't sound like they are power users.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
nrvnqsrxk said:
...Honestly though, I would just flash your parents stock again. Doesn't sound like they are power users.
Sent from my HTC Sensation
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To be honest, I'm mostly after the improved battery life for them. You're right, they're not power users; in fact the phones are way to "smart" for them. Their biggest complaint is battery life (as was mine before I rooted).
At this point I just want to get their phones back to a stable state. It's frustrating because I NEVER had any of these issues when I flashed my phone.
Even the kernels, radios, etc didn't make 'much' of a difference. I was blessed with a really, really stable flash right out of the gate
I even updated to the latest ARHD and bundled faux kernel and my phone is rock solid.
Both of my parents are coming over tonight for dinner. I'm planning on reflashing them to ARHD 3.6.5. using the steps outlined earlier. Hopefully all goes well or it's restore-to-stock time.
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To be honest, I'm mostly after the improved battery life for them. You're right, they're not power users; in fact the phones are way to "smart" for them. Their biggest complaint is battery life (as was mine before I rooted).
At this point I just want to get their phones back to a stable state. It's frustrating because I NEVER had any of these issues when I flashed my phone.
Even the kernels, radios, etc didn't make 'much' of a difference. I was blessed with a really, really stable flash right out of the gate
I even updated to the latest ARHD and bundled faux kernel and my phone is rock solid.
Both of my parents are coming over tonight for dinner. I'm planning on reflashing them to ARHD 3.6.5. using the steps outlined earlier. Hopefully all goes well or it's restore-to-stock time.
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Hi,
May I suggest using the 3.6.x series with the 0.9.1 bricked kernel,found HERE
I put it on my son's Sensation,and he loves the stability and battery life.
He's not a power user.
He just wants a smartphone that works.
Just a thought.
You could also try the stock rom xe by eddyos. Everything works fine and battery last for 14 to 24 hrs in medium to light usage.
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Hi guys, please tell me what the heck I am doing wrong with ICS ROMs because I just feel powerless.
Tried some time ago OnceICS ROM (on 3.12 firmware), then switched to Virtuous Inquisition, then Virtuous Quattro (3.24 firmware) and now I'm on newest OnceICS on 3.24 unlocked firmware.
Every ROM change was dictated by the fact that my ROM kept turning off very randomly - on data transfer (I guess), after sending/receiving SMS, before/after phonecall - no rule, once it worked, another time I had like 10 turn offs per hour. Can't even do a logcat because it mostly happens when I'm out of home, where the signal can or is lower than at home (where I have full and barely no turn offs).
Every ROM change I hope this one gonna work but the problem still remains.
Sitting on supercid, did wipes, superwipes, fix permissions, battery wipe, no OC kernels, changed recovery to 4ext touch..
I flashed OnceICS yesterday I thought it is finally fine. But today it started rebooting like every before. probably today I will flash just once a sense rom like insertcoin, but I have no hope.
What is wrong with my phone? :\
insert-coin is not a de-sensed ROM
Did you by any chance restore data from a backup after flashing the ROM because this can often cause this sort of bugs
Whoops I meant "sense rom like insertcoin" because I tried roms with sense stripped out.
I do not restore data, I do titanium backup, sometimes use it to restore some apps but none of system stuff (contacts are synced by google, sms are restored by Go SMS Pro, everything else I configure on every reinstall). Like right now, I have plain OnceICS with only few apps installed from market but I had turn offs before I installed them too so I don't think they are the problem here :\
Maybe you should install a factory ROM first, to look if it solves your problem..?
tbeelen said:
Maybe you should install a factory ROM first, to look if it solves your problem..?
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Agreed, try a Gingerbread ROM then you can figure out whether it's an ICS problem alone or possibly hardware related.
Yeah I will probably install gingerbread :/ But, damn, ICS is awesome, I like it very much, especially the way it behaves and looks. It's sad I need to go back to gingerbread
Don't give up, if Gingerbread runs well, just try again (maybe another) ICS ROM.
Cliff Edge said:
Yeah I will probably install gingerbread :/ But, damn, ICS is awesome, I like it very much, especially the way it behaves and looks. It's sad I need to go back to gingerbread
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It's a bummer but if it's a hardware fault best to find it and get it sorted IMO.
It was fine before I switched to ICS. But ok, tomorrow morining, gingerbread strike back. What's the best 2.3 ROM right now? Because there is quite a mess in "android development" forums because of ICS.
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Hi guys, please tell me what the heck I am doing wrong with ICS ROMs because I just feel powerless.
Tried some time ago OnceICS ROM (on 3.12 firmware), then switched to Virtuous Inquisition, then Virtuous Quattro (3.24 firmware) and now I'm on newest OnceICS on 3.24 unlocked firmware.
Every ROM change was dictated by the fact that my ROM kept turning off very randomly - on data transfer (I guess), after sending/receiving SMS, before/after phonecall - no rule, once it worked, another time I had like 10 turn offs per hour. Can't even do a logcat because it mostly happens when I'm out of home, where the signal can or is lower than at home (where I have full and barely no turn offs).
Every ROM change I hope this one gonna work but the problem still remains.
Sitting on supercid, did wipes, superwipes, fix permissions, battery wipe, no OC kernels, changed recovery to 4ext touch..
I flashed OnceICS yesterday I thought it is finally fine. But today it started rebooting like every before. probably today I will flash just once a sense rom like insertcoin, but I have no hope.
What is wrong with my phone? :\
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MR. Edge, first let me say I feel your pain I myself went through exactly what you are going through. I thought I was going to have to get a new phone. But then I found this Post:
http://media.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon2.gif
I know you said you did all these things but it wont hurt at this point to double check yourself and make sure everything is done correctly. I have had my sensation since June and have been rooted since july so I thought I knew everything there was to know about this phone. turns out I didnt lol and I still dont know what I missed but after I follwed this guide step by step I was able to load ARHD 6.1 without any issues. I have been auto off free for 3 days and counting.
and if that dosent work you can still go back to GB and ARHD has a nice rom for that as well. Good Luck
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Sorry new to posting here is the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
I'm on 3.12 F/W and happily run Virtuous Inquisition (or Quattro) and CM7 on the phone.
All the ICS based ROMs are a bit un-stable as they're based on un-released binaries from HTC. As you might tell from the ROMs I listed I'm more into AOSP based ones than Sense ones.
The battery life I have now is better than ever, TBH not certain if that's ICS, Radio or F/W.
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I'm on 3.12 F/W and happily run Virtuous Inquisition (or Quattro) and CM7 on the phone.
All the ICS based ROMs are a bit un-stable as they're based on un-released binaries from HTC. As you might tell from the ROMs I listed I'm more into AOSP based ones than Sense ones.
The battery life I have now is better than ever, TBH not certain if that's ICS, Radio or F/W.
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For AOSP ROM , I suggest Virtuous Inquisition till CM official released for sensation...
Thanks for answers, I gave up for now, switched to 1.17 fw and cm7. I miss ICS
So far it works fine but not as smooth as ICS. But the most I miss rotation animation
Jesus, what is going on :\ I'm on CM7 right now and it can turn off as well :\ Tomorrow I will install stock rom... Before I started playing with ICS everything was fine, no turn offs :\
If I were in your shoes I would reflash the RUU for your device and rule out a hardware failure. Not to mention if anything is left over from all of your flashes it can lead to problems. Just start over, don't ask for help and then be stubborn about the suggested solutions.
OK I will do so
I was about to post a thread but google pointed me here. I have the EXACT same problem as you do Cliff. I highly doubt it is caused by hardware, and as Tez recommended I followed that guide verbatim. Still having problems. It's so frustrating because I LOVE ICS.
Right now I'm on stock ROM, dedicated to my phone (rubbish Orange PL branding etc.), rooted it just to restore some games.
and it still can turn off from time to time :\ I've had no such issue before trying ICS. Dunno what else I can do.
For me, it's starting to seem more and more like the battery stats are way off. But no matter how many times I wipe them and try to re-calibrate, it still gets way off within a day or two.
Cliff, did your percentages jump around each time you turned your phone back on?
I have these problems too !! I'm going to s off and send to HTC
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I've had my S3 for about 3-4 months or so, and I've recently been having this problem.
The day I got it I rooted it and everything was going good, battery wasn't amazing, but definitely reasonable.
After the boot loader was unlocked, I unlocked it with the EZ unlock in the Play Store.
I then loaded up Synergy r50 (nightly at the time) and everything seemed improved.
Anyways, I have since then loaded Paranoid Android, CM10, Beans, and Incubus' Jellywiz.
I went to Beans after Synergy, everything was still fine, then I loaded up Jellywiz RLS7 for a day, and it ran extremely warm and I was dropping
a percentage of my battery every 2 minutes. I nandroided back to Beans, and had the overheat and battery drain problem on that too. I wiped everything and went to Synergy (newest nightly, forgot the number) (edit: added the ktoonsez kernel after many FC's) and the problem still exists. I'm also getting horrible cell signal (not 4g, 4g is fine) at my school where it used to be perfectly fine. Anyone know what I could possibly do besides returning it? I already used Odin to go back to the latest non-leaked stock, and it's still doing it. Thank you very much.
TL;DR: After flashing multiple roms, then flashing Jellywiz, my phone runs much too hot for comfort, borderline burning, battery life goes fast, and I get next to no signal at my school.
Thanks again for any help!
chisandwich said:
I've had my S3 for about 3-4 months or so, and I've recently been having this problem.
The day I got it I rooted it and everything was going good, battery wasn't amazing, but definitely reasonable.
After the boot loader was unlocked, I unlocked it with the EZ unlock in the Play Store.
I then loaded up Synergy r50 (nightly at the time) and everything seemed improved.
Anyways, I have since then loaded Paranoid Android, CM10, Beans, and Incubus' Jellywiz.
I went to Beans after Synergy, everything was still fine, then I loaded up Jellywiz RLS7 for a day, and it ran extremely warm and I was dropping
a percentage of my battery every 2 minutes. I nandroided back to Beans, and had the overheat and battery drain problem on that too. I wiped everything and went to Synergy (newest nightly, forgot the number) (edit: added the ktoonsez kernel after many FC's) and the problem still exists. I'm also getting horrible cell signal (not 4g, 4g is fine) at my school where it used to be perfectly fine. Anyone know what I could possibly do besides returning it? I already used Odin to go back to the latest non-leaked stock, and it's still doing it. Thank you very much.
TL;DR: After flashing multiple roms, then flashing Jellywiz, my phone runs much too hot for comfort, borderline burning, battery life goes fast, and I get next to no signal at my school.
Thanks again for any help!
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Did you try to odin back to Stock, get the new OTA and maybe odin the leaked radio on top? I'd give it a try and see how it works out for you 1-2 days. People are reporting better single with the leaked radio. You flashed a lot of stuff in a very short time and you missed the latest official radio from the G7 OTA.
If you still have issues return the phone to VZW. If not DebugFS, EZ Unlock (make sure to use version 1.2 from rootzwiki) and EZ recovery again. Make a clean Nandroid and go back to your favorite ROM.
All the downloads you need can be found in droidstyle's sticky in devel.
BlackBytes said:
Did you try to odin back to Stock, get the new OTA and maybe odin the leaked radio on top? I'd give it a try and see how it works out for you 1-2 days. People are reporting better single with the leaked radio. You flashed a lot of stuff in a very short time and you missed the latest official radio from the G7 OTA.
If you still have issues return the phone to VZW. If not DebugFS, EZ Unlock (make sure to use version 1.2 from rootzwiki) and EZ recovery again. Make a clean Nandroid and go back to your favorite ROM.
All the downloads you need can be found in droidstyle's sticky in devel.
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Thank you very much! I just finished installing the OTA and I'm about to flash the leaked radio through Odin.
I'll post back in a few days or so in case this doesn't end up working or if any one else is having this issue and doesn't want to post (much like I was until I realized I can't stand the issues I was having)
Hopefully this works, thanks again!
(If anyone else has any other remedies for this, would be nice to post just in case this doesn't work, thank you)
chisandwich said:
Thank you very much! I just finished installing the OTA and I'm about to flash the leaked radio through Odin.
I'll post back in a few days or so in case this doesn't end up working or if any one else is having this issue and doesn't want to post (much like I was until I realized I can't stand the issues I was having)
Hopefully this works, thanks again!
(If anyone else has any other remedies for this, would be nice to post just in case this doesn't work, thank you)
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you are welcome,
by the way - try to avoid Jelly Bean ROMs like CM10 or AOKP. They all have issues with the RIL and we have to wait for someone to figure out a fix or an official JB TouchWiz leak.
i have unlocked my boot loader i have rooted and i have s-off!
the attached images give my complete firmware info:
i have noticed that my phone feels very stable but somewhat less on performance and battery life.
besides there are strange things i have observed (which happened even before rooting)
a) that my battery takes a lot of time to recharge!
b) at times it wont make it up to 100% will be stuck at 99%
c) and if i power off my device and start it up it just drastically reduces by 10% or so
also my phone doesn't heat up it much 34 C is the temp i see in those battery monitoring apps and the battery drop is stable when the phone is not used. And power saver doesn't make much difference!
so i wanted to flash a kernel..
ttherefore i wanted to ask which kernel will work with my present firmware?
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how to flash a kernel?
any guide about kernels which will help me get through can also work!:good:
PS m a complete noob but trying to learn things so some detailed help regarding the procedure will be appreciated!:angel:
Sonone said:
a) that my battery takes a lot of time to recharge!
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What is a "long time"? Can you be more specific? Mine usually charges for near empty to full in maybe 1.5 to 2 hours.
Rooting and S-off won't effect charge time or battery life. Going to Sense 5 might has some effect on battery life (I personally haven't seen a significant change), but would not have any effect on charge time, per se. But if there is fast battery drain, then the phone will take longer to charge, if you are charging with the phone on (as many of us do).
Are you on the 2.15 firmware? You might be having a signal issue affecting battery drain.
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b) at times it wont make it up to 100% will be stuck at 99%
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How many times did you charge the phone after updating to Sense 5? It takes at least one full discharge/charge cycle after updating the ROM, for the battery meter to be accurate.
Also, charging will automatically shutoff once the battery is charged (this is a mandatory safety feature). Then once the charge has dropped a bit, it will top off again. So I've often seen it drop to 99% while on the charger.
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c) and if i power off my device and start it up it just drastically reduces by 10% or so
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Probably just a metering error, and the new reading is the correct one. I've seen this happen to myself and others when rebooting the phone. Although, it shouldn't be common. Although might be, if you haven't calibrated the meter properly as I mentioned above.
Sonone said:
ttherefore i wanted to ask which kernel will work with my present firmware?
and
how to flash a kernel?
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I beleive Beastmode is your only choice for Sense 5 ROMs at the present time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165880
Just download to your phone, and flash in recovery. Wipe cache and Dalvik after flashing, then reboot.
redpoint73 said:
What is a "long time"? Can you be more specific?
Rooting and S-off won't effect charge time or battery life. Going to Sense 5 might has some effect on battery life (I haven't seen a significant change), but would not have any effect on charge time. I haven't seen any change in charge time across many ROM flashes. It charges from almost empty to full, in about 1.5 hours, or maybe 2 hours.
How many times did you charge the phone after updating to Sense 5? It takes at least one full discharge/charge cycle after updating the ROM, for the battery meter to be accurate.
Also, charging will intentionally shutoff once the battery is charged (this is a mandatory safety feature). Then once the charge has dropped a bit, it will top off again. So I've often seen it drop to 99% while on the charger.
Probably just a metering error, and the new reading is the correct one. I've seen this happen to myself and others when rebooting the phone. Although, it shouldn't be common. Although might be, if you haven't calibrated the meter properly as I mentioned above.
I beleive Beastmode is your only choice for Sense 5 ROMs at the present time: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2165880
Just download to your phone, and flash in recovery. Wipe cache and Dalvik after flashing, then reboot.
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Thanks a lot for your reply.:good:
it takes 2 hours to charge.. slightly more...
i have read people saying getting a 2 0r 3% battery drop in 5 hours or so.. for me its around 6% an hour..
i dont play games...i have removed unecessary apps some bloatware.. i dont use greenify module or set cpu etc.. besides my usage is normal.. and "auto sync" and blink feed is off.. its only whats app messenger but even thats not on auto sync
i use 3g for data plans... thats pretty much about my usage.
about the kernel you recommended is it compatible with my present scenario (ie firmware and 4.2.2 etc)
and it wont affect anything like the "sim(carrier unlock), bootloader,radio etc" [m sorry as i said m a newbie] ?
and which version of beastmode exactly u will recommend?
Sonone said:
Thanks a lot for your reply.:good:
it takes 2 hours to charge.. slightly more...
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That sounds pretty normal. I assume the phone is on when you are charging, so if you are seeing higher battery drain on Sense 5, then this will of course affect charge time (1 step backward for every 2 steps forward, so to speak).
So if you are seeing slower charging on Sense 5 than before, it might not be charging time per se, but a battery drain issue.
Sonone said:
i have read people saying getting a 2 0r 3% battery drop in 5 hours or so.. for me its around 6% an hour..
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2-3% per 5 hours seems extremely low. I can get 48 hours on a charge with low usage (phone mostly with the phone idle), on WiFi at home and LTE at work. So about 2% per hour. And I haven't heard reports of battery life much better than that, unless you turn the phone to airplane more or otherwise turn off the data network, which of course will greatly extend battery life but makes the phone much less useful.
And many people have battery life much worse than I've just stated (2% per hour while idle). It depends a lot on how you use your phone, and your location/reception. Drain of 6% per hour with the phone idle is not unheard of, probably even pretty common. When you say 6% per hour, is that with the phone idle and screen off? Is this much different than before you were on Sense 5?
One important question: How did you get on Sense 5? Was it by OTA, or did you flash a custom or stock rooted ROM from Development?
If you flashed a ROM, did you install the 2.15 firmware? This is not to be confused with the OS or ROM, but the 2.15 firmware contains the Sense 5 hboot, radio, as well as several other modules.
If you are not already on the 2.15 firmware, this may help. Of course, a different kernel may help also.
Sonone said:
about the kernel you recommended is it compatible with my present scenario (ie firmware and 4.2.2 etc)
and it wont affect anything like the "sim(carrier unlock), bootloader,radio etc" [m sorry as i said m a newbie] ?
and which version of beastmode exactly u will recommend?
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Of course it works on your present setup. I already said its the kernel to use for Sense 5, and I wouldn't be recommended it to you if it didn't work on your setup.
Some folks are saying to flash Beastmode version 2.0, reboot, than flash 3.5. But I assume that many folks do just fine flashing the latest 3.5 version.
Flashing a kernel will not touch the radio or bootloader. Also, SIM unlock survives just about anything.
redpoint73 said:
One important question: How did you get on Sense 5? Was it by OTA, or did you flash a custom or stock rooted ROM from Development?
If you flashed a ROM, did you install the 2.15 firmware? This is not to be confused with the OS or ROM, but the 2.15 firmware contains the Sense 5 hboot, radio, as well as several other modules.
If you are not already on the 2.15 firmware, this may help. Of course, a different kernel may help also.
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Well thats the mystery part. I had purchased this phone from ebay from a local vendor. I live in India as HTC one XL is not available all over the world this phone was 'sim/carrier unlocked' to work with the gsm service providers in India( a known fact) Interestingly when i checked it already came with Sense 5 and 4.2.2 and guess what also with the "SOFF" and "Unlocked Bootloader" as well as Super Cid (11111111) the rom however was not rooted it dint have any custom recovery flashed everything else was stock. Every HTC app worked.
so with this background i obviously thought that it may have some ported rom of sense 5 or a custom rom like 'magio' not 'clean rom 7' since it had some htc bloatware (not carrier bloatware) BUT then it dint have any trace of the developer or a signature or anything that could help me to actually understand which rom I am running!
it has hboot version 2.15.0000 and radio i1.30a.32.45.18
now its not a assembled or a fake version i used many apps like Setc cpu ,An tutu,Trickster Mod(every htc sync manager recognizes it) and it gives the detailed version of hardware which is the one that htc one Xl has so its definitely genuine and legit besides it has an 'imei number.
So that's what i m confused about!! I believe its from Asia hong kong or some where probably! Buts its definitely geniune
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Of course it works on your present setup. I already said its the kernel to use for Sense 5, and I wouldn't be recommended it to you if it didn't work on your setup.
Some folks are saying to flash Beastmode version 2.0, reboot, than flash 3.5. But I assume that many folks do just fine flashing the latest 3.5 version.
Flashing a kernel will not touch the radio or bootloader. Also, SIM unlock survives just about anything.
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I read the thread much of it.. I guess the 3.5 version is jus the 3.0 version with Aroma,surprisingly when i flash try to flash it with TWRP 2.6 it says "FAIL"
besides the developer also mentioned to rename two files in the bin folder with" _old" as an extension does it need to be done with the latest kernel version?
and m a bit scared to do so because many have reported that the file for WiFi fix is missing!
About the battery thanks a ton for the explanation M really happy its normal.. and many apps do say that the health is good so YAY!! =)
now the only reason for flashing a kernel will be to get the extra juice out of my Snapdragon S4!!
*excited*
Sonone said:
Well thats the mystery part. I had purchased this phone from ebay from a local vendor. I live in India as HTC one XL is not available all over the world this phone was 'sim/carrier unlocked' to work with the gsm service providers in India( a known fact) Interestingly when i checked it already came with Sense 5 and 4.2.2 and guess what also with the "SOFF" and "Unlocked Bootloader" as well as Super Cid (11111111) the rom however was not rooted it dint have any custom recovery flashed everything else was stock. Every HTC app worked.
so with this background i obviously thought that it may have some ported rom of sense 5 or a custom rom like 'magio' not 'clean rom 7' since it had some htc bloatware (not carrier bloatware) BUT then it dint have any trace of the developer or a signature or anything that could help me to actually understand which rom I am running!
it has hboot version 2.15.0000 and radio i1.30a.32.45.18
now its not a assembled or a fake version i used many apps like Setc cpu ,An tutu,Trickster Mod(every htc sync manager recognizes it) and it gives the detailed version of hardware which is the one that htc one Xl has so its definitely genuine and legit besides it has an 'imei number.
So that's what i m confused about!! I believe its from Asia hong kong or some where probably! Buts its definitely geniune
I read the thread much of it.. I guess the 3.5 version is jus the 3.0 version with Aroma,surprisingly when i flash try to flash it with TWRP 2.6 it says "FAIL"
besides the developer also mentioned to rename two files in the bin folder with" _old" as an extension does it need to be done with the latest kernel version?
and m a bit scared to do so because many have reported that the file for WiFi fix is missing!
About the battery thanks a ton for the explanation M really happy its normal.. and many apps do say that the health is good so YAY!! =)
now the only reason for flashing a kernel will be to get the extra juice out of my Snapdragon S4!!
*excited*
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How long ago did you purchase the phone? It seems to me that the seller has just loaded a stock ROM on it before selling it. You're lucky though, you've ended up with a phone that's already unlocked and already s-off, win win.
I may be wrong but I think the renaming of those files was only applicable to an older version of the kernel. I've flashed 3.0 (3.5 is exactly the same kernel but with an updated/different aroma installer) without renaming them a few times and have no issues. I saw someone mention that after the kernel install failed, that fixing permissions in recovery/advanced and then flashing the kernel worked.
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How long ago did you purchase the phone? It seems to me that the seller has just loaded a stock ROM on it before selling it. You're lucky though, you've ended up with a phone that's already unlocked and already s-off, win win.
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its just been 4 or 5 days or so.. M sorry if m desperately over enthusiastic but as i said m a total noob and m jus learning!
Thats great my phone is unlocked and good to go!
btw htc is different god knows why they use lithium polymer batteries and that too do which have a relatively less capacity..
and one brief update m using "ondemand" as my governor i hope thats fine!?
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I may be wrong but I think the renaming of those files was only applicable to an older version of the kernel. I've flashed 3.0 (3.5 is exactly the same kernel but with an updated/different aroma installer) without renaming them a few times and have no issues. I saw someone mention that after the kernel install failed, that fixing permissions in recovery/advanced and then flashing the kernel worked.
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So u suggest i should try and flash the 2.0 and then the 3.5? i will try that!
and friends btw just realized that my phone actually beats up the international version in Antutu Benchmarks its so close to Nexus 4 atleast on the graph (sorry for the off topic discussion its just that m very happy)
and as always god knows what i would have done without this forum and the explanations i get from you people!:angel:
Sonone said:
its just been 4 or 5 days or so.. M sorry if m desperately over enthusiastic but as i said m a total noob and m jus learning!
Thats great my phone is unlocked and good to go!
btw htc is different god knows why they use lithium polymer batteries and that too do which have a relatively less capacity..
and one brief update m using "ondemand" as my governor i hope thats fine!?
So u suggest i should try and flash the 2.0 and then the 3.5? i will try that!
and friends btw just realized that my phone actually beats up the international version in Antutu Benchmarks its so close to Nexus 4 atleast on the graph (sorry for the off topic discussion its just that m very happy)
and as always god knows what i would have done without this forum and the explanations i get from you people!:angel:
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There's nothing wrong with being enthusiastic, and I always encourage people who actually want to learn how to modify their device. The ondemand governor should be fine, I've always used that or intellidemand (on the kernels that have it).
You can try flashing 2.0 before 3.5 or you can just try fixing permissions in recovery before just flashing 3.5, apparently either way works. I've never been a huge fan of benchmarks, but Zarboz asked me to do a couple while we were testing the Beastmode kernel, and apparently the result was half decent. I'll attach a screenshot in a minute.
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There's nothing wrong with being enthusiastic, and I always encourage people who actually want to learn how to modify their device. The ondemand governor should be fine, I've always used that or intellidemand (on the kernels that have it).
You can try flashing 2.0 before 3.5 or you can just try fixing permissions in recovery before just flashing 3.5, apparently either way works. I've never been a huge fan of benchmarks, but Zarboz asked me to do a couple while we were testing the Beastmode kernel, and apparently the result was half decent. I'll attach a screenshot in a minute.
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was the benchmarking app quadrant?
well it does seem good though like personally m a bit skeptical about benchmarks as they give a different result every time BUT what matters to me is the feedback the kernel has which is really great. And since it gives me a little more control of the functioning of my device m very much inclined to try it out!!
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so with this background i obviously thought that it may have some ported rom of sense 5 or a custom rom like 'magio' not 'clean rom 7' since it had some htc bloatware (not carrier bloatware) BUT then it dint have any trace of the developer or a signature or anything that could help me to actually understand which rom I am running!
it has hboot version 2.15.0000 and radio i1.30a.32.45.18
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It has the version number (5.05.707.1) and baseband for the Singapore/Singtel Sense 5 OTA. So I'm going to guess that the seller actually RUU'ed to stock and than OTA'ed to the latest official OS, which is actually pretty impressive (went a bit beyond the call of duty, as a seller).
If this is true, all the 2.15 firmware modules should be installed, and you shouldn't need to mess with those.
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It has the version number (5.05.707.1) and baseband for the Singapore/Singtel Sense 5 OTA. So I'm going to guess that the seller actually RUU'ed to stock and than OTA'ed to the latest official OS, which is actually pretty impressive (went a bit beyond the call of duty, as a seller).
If this is true, all the 2.15 firmware modules should be installed, and you shouldn't need to mess with those.
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and finally mystery solved :good::laugh: Genius :good:
but I dint get you? So u mean to say that everything is normal and i can go ahead withe flashing?
and its all good i mean the phone,all legit right?
one thing that i have often thought is that are the custom roms build to work specifically for a particular region or is it universal??
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and finally mystery solved :good::laugh: Genius :good:
but I dint get you? So u mean to say that everything is normal and i can go ahead withe flashing?
and its all good i mean the phone,all legit right?
one thing that i have often thought is that are the custom roms build to work specifically for a particular region or is it universal??
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Well, its not a sure thing (my assumption on how the phone go to Sense 5). But its the likely scenario.
I'd say all is legit. I wouldn't expect there to be any signal issues due to mismatched firmware modules, as it appears that hboot, radio, and other modules are updated to 2.15 versions meant for the Sense 5 stock ROM.
Although, a few folks have reported poor reception on the Sense 5 radio (baseband), and getting better reception by flashing an older radio. But I think most people are going to see better performance with the newest (Sense 5) radio. Unless you have a reason to believe that reception is an issue, I'd leave it alone.
Any ROM meant for the EVITA will work on your phone (they are not region dependent). The one hitch, if the APN for your carrier is not included on the custom ROM, you will have to enter the APN info manually. But this is a minor issue. And if you already have the phone running on the stock Sense 5 ROM, it looks like you've already figured this out (or it was done for you).
There is also presently an exception, in that some AOSP ROMs do not play well with hboot 2.15. But each AOSP ROM will likely be compatible as the individual developers update their ROMs.
A thread about overclocking that lead to so many things! =)
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Well, its not a sure thing (my assumption on how the phone go to Sense 5). But its the likely scenario.
I'd say all is legit. I wouldn't expect there to be any signal issues due to mismatched firmware modules, as it appears that hboot, radio, and other modules are updated to 2.15 versions meant for the Sense 5 stock ROM.
Although, a few folks have reported poor reception on the Sense 5 radio (baseband), and getting better reception by flashing an older radio. But I think most people are going to see better performance with the newest (Sense 5) radio. Unless you have a reason to believe that reception is an issue, I'd leave it alone.
Any ROM meant for the EVITA will work on your phone (they are not region dependent). The one hitch, if the APN for your carrier is not included on the custom ROM, you will have to enter the APN info manually. But this is a minor issue. And if you already have the phone running on the stock Sense 5 ROM, it looks like you've already figured this out (or it was done for you).
There is also presently an exception, in that some AOSP ROMs do not play well with hboot 2.15. But each AOSP ROM will likely be compatible as the individual developers update their ROMs.
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M happy its all good!
Ya Timmaaa had also mentioned that PAC man in particular is not compatible with 2.15... Access Points ya i can do that..
Reception has been good.... it was the same i had on my earlier cell!
i have to thanks the seller though.. Nice job done..
btw does the clean rom or magio for that matter have any at&t or telstra stuff!?
for clean rom its mentioned i guess anyways i can remove that,coz its actually of no use?
MagioRom has no carrier bloatware at all, it's been removed. I haven't run the new Cleanrom but I think Scott usually removes the bloatware too.
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MagioRom has no carrier bloatware at all, it's been removed. I haven't run the new Cleanrom but I think Scott usually removes the bloatware too.
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so no extra bars for network and dat at & t start up screen?
and completely debranded?
thanks for the feedback =)
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so no extra bars for network and dat at & t start up screen?
and completely debranded?
thanks for the feedback =)
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I'm honestly not sure because I haven't flashed Cleanrom, he should have a list of features in his thread though.
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i installed Beastmode version 3.5 my phone is stuck on the start up screen with some something written in red "that its meant for development etc.... what to do?
Download Beastmode 2.0, flash that and then 3.5 afterwards and see if that works.
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so no extra bars for network and dat at & t start up screen?
and completely debranded?
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CleanROM 7 is actually based on the German T-Mobile stock ROM, but as scrocler says in the top post of the CleanROM thread "infused with AT&T settings!" Probably due to the fact that some 60% of One X/XL users here are on AT&T (based on a survey by Turge), and some things don't always play quite well on AT&T's network without AT&T build.prop, signal icons etc. Although, the stock German ROM is working fantastic for me on AT&T.
I haven't flashed the latest CleanROM either, so I'm not actually sure what AT&T aspects are present or not. You can read through the CleanROM thread, or post the question there. Or just flash it, and see for yourself.
I think scrosler is working on an AROMA version of CleanROM 7, in which case you may be able to customize what AT&T features are included or not.
when trying to install beast mode kernel i was stuck in bootloop so i went into twrp and by mistake wiped everything (i was such a fool my sddata along with my nandroid back up) got erased so i had no os..
when i rebooted it was again in bootloop
so i first flashed twrp
then i mounted usb storage and copied cyanogen mod {cm-10.0.0-evita} and flashed it!
{the version i downloaded was the only tsbale version}
it booted up and now my touch screen nor the capacitive buttons work please tell me what to do??
rilly messed up!
So after doing a wipe to my phone (was becoming slow) my phone randomly restarts itself for no reason as if it just crashes. I am running the latest version of the beanstalk rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091900 I don't have the greatest understanding of flashing, roms, blah blah blah, but managed to get kit kat working for the last year or so, I don't understand why this is happening now, did I choose a bad rom or something? Everything else on the phone works but obviously constant restarts get to be very annoying.
Any help would be appreciated,
thank you!
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So after doing a wipe to my phone (was becoming slow) my phone randomly restarts itself for no reason as if it just crashes. I am running the latest version of the beanstalk rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091900 I don't have the greatest understanding of flashing, roms, blah blah blah, but managed to get kit kat working for the last year or so, I don't understand why this is happening now, did I choose a bad rom or something? Everything else on the phone works but obviously constant restarts get to be very annoying.
Any help would be appreciated,
thank you!
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Try leaving it turned on in recovery mode (CWM). If it still reboots, then you have a hardware issue. If it stays stable, I would blame the ROM and try a different version or a different distro.
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Try leaving it turned on in recovery mode (CWM). If it still reboots, then you have a hardware issue. If it stays stable, I would blame the ROM and try a different version or a different distro.
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Thanks for the reply,
I don't think it is a hardware issue as it never did this when I had Jelly Bean or even the last time I had Kit Kat, never know though! Also, I will try to leave it in recovery and see if it does it but a few questions:
-What is "distro" (does it has to do with the OS of the phone?)
-Is there some ROM you could recommend to me for this phone that is stable.. When I install the beanstalk ROM there are like 10 to choose from, I'm guessing they are all older/newer versions!?
-Finally something I was wondering for the longest time but wasn't sure of is can I go back to say, Jelly Bean? Or is it "irreversible"?
Thanks again, glad there's people out there who can help the noobs like me!
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Thanks for the reply,
I don't think it is a hardware issue as it never did this when I had Jelly Bean or even the last time I had Kit Kat, never know though! Also, I will try to leave it in recovery and see if it does it but a few questions:
-What is "distro" (does it has to do with the OS of the phone?)
-Is there some ROM you could recommend to me for this phone that is stable.. When I install the beanstalk ROM there are like 10 to choose from, I'm guessing they are all older/newer versions!?
-Finally something I was wondering for the longest time but wasn't sure of is can I go back to say, Jelly Bean? Or is it "irreversible"?
Thanks again, glad there's people out there who can help the noobs like me!
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Methinks it is the specific ROM. I call the different types of OM out there distributions (or "distros" - in light of what is commonly used in the Linux world), but there may be a better term. It could be the version of Beanstalk you are using, it could be any version of BeanStalk with your phone. Hard to say.
In light of above, I would try CarbonROM. I tried it out briefly, and haven;t had a problem with it (and have heard no issues form the guy I sold the phone to with it installed).
But if you want to go back to JellyBean, there is still a version of 4.2 kicking around (CM 10.1) in the development threads. You can downgrade, at worst you may have to ODIN back to stock. But try to flash in CWM first. I was quite satisfied with that version. My biggest gripe is that the mobile data quick setting didn't work fully (but the long way around did). There is CM 10.2 as well, but I could never get that one installed on my phone (installer would break). Between the two, I would try 10.1 (and if you cannot find a copy, I can dropbox it to you).
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joel.maxuel said:
Methinks it is the specific ROM. I call the different types of OM out there distributions (or "distros" - in light of what is commonly used in the Linux world), but there may be a better term. It could be the version of Beanstalk you are using, it could be any version of BeanStalk with your phone. Hard to say.
In light of above, I would try CarbonROM. I tried it out briefly, and haven;t had a problem with it (and have heard no issues form the guy I sold the phone to with it installed).
But if you want to go back to JellyBean, there is still a version of 4.2 kicking around (CM 10.1) in the development threads. You can downgrade, at worst you may have to ODIN back to stock. But try to flash in CWM first. I was quite satisfied with that version. My biggest gripe is that the mobile data quick setting didn't work fully (but the long way around did). There is CM 10.2 as well, but I could never get that one installed on my phone (installer would break). Between the two, I would try 10.1 (and if you cannot find a copy, I can dropbox it to you).
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YES!
So, after I left the phone in CWM for 25 minutes or so and it being fine I decided to get Carbon as I seen in your "signature" that you had that ROM on your Infuse, it has been good for 2 hours+, looking good! I guess it was the Beanstalk ROM after all.
Thanks for the downgrading information as well, wasn't sure if you could downgrade or what would happen!
Finally, what is flashing? (I could google it but since your here, could you give me a noob friendly definition!?)
Thanks for all your help
Infused4life said:
YES!
So, after I left the phone in CWM for 25 minutes or so and it being fine I decided to get Carbon as I seen in your "signature" that you had that ROM on your Infuse, it has been good for 2 hours+, looking good! I guess it was the Beanstalk ROM after all.
Thanks for the downgrading information as well, wasn't sure if you could downgrade or what would happen!
Finally, what is flashing? (I could google it but since your here, could you give me a noob friendly definition!?)
Thanks for all your help
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Went to reply about the camera issue and notice it was no longer in the post. Glad you got it sorted.
So flashing, as I understand it, is just another term for installing something via recovery. Not sure of the origin, maybe have something to do with installing to flash memory.
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Went to reply about the camera issue and notice it was no longer in the post. Glad you got it sorted.
So flashing, as I understand it, is just another term for installing something via recovery. Not sure of the origin, maybe have something to do with installing to flash memory.
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Ah ok, so it's essentially as I thought it was. I thought I was doing something wrong in terms of "flashing" but guess not! Sounds like it should just be called "Installing custom ROM".. !
Yeah, in terms of the camera thing, I'm an idiot and had USB storage turned on *facepalm*, So it wouldn't let me open the camera app!
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Ah ok, so it's essentially as I thought it was. I thought I was doing something wrong in terms of "flashing" but guess not! Sounds like it should just be called "Installing custom ROM".. !
Yeah, in terms of the camera thing, I'm an idiot and had USB storage turned on *facepalm*, So it wouldn't let me open the camera app!
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I am not sure if you are still facing the same issue but if you are facing reboots, then considering doing a fresh install after cleaning your internal storage as well since the remnants of the apps from previous installs have caused me problems. Ever since I started doing a fresh install (Factory reset, wiping the cache, wiping the dalvik cache and even the cache partition along with the wiping of the internal storage), there have been no reboot issues.