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I am starting to understand why...but there are so many options...
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First of all you have to try all roms and then go for the best one and the one who fits better to you... I can't say how to do it... Everyone is different
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all rom's on xda are cool!¨
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
Well here are some preferences of mine...Perhaps you can narrow down three or four first choices.
Well I would not know the difference between sense based and not right now, so probably should aim to get close to it and slowly experiment outwards...
I want completely stable, the xe is fast enough so don't need faster (for now) but I do want themes capability. I like a very personalized interface. And ideally would rather make my own, but doubt I could without software for that like I had on my K77i.
I don't particularly care about popular, but I suppose popular does indicate stability and or other major benefits. I would not risk a new ROM I think.
I use mine, for everything, much more than calls and texts, and would use it to read a lot. So in that sense I do need low power consumption. Movies mostly at night with lowest brightness, but some times videos during the day too, such as exercise programs...
I hope not to catch a romming bug, I have had the phone only a few days and it's still not got all I want organized into it...It takes a lot of effort to set thing up right, at least for me, so I don't want to do that every couple of weeks...Mind you when I have the apps I want and calendar set up and what not I suppose that won't be so hard.
Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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if you're going for the ics aosp feel then you should try both hypernonsense and virtuous inquisition and then decide which one you want to keep
as someone already stated - you should ask yourself what do you really need and it should be easy then...
for instance i need a stable room,ics looks,everything working and as few system apps as possible(only those which are required for a rom to function properly),no live wallpapers,no unnecesary ringtones and simillar so i chose hypernonsense
cocoman93 said:
there are two major categories of roms here, the ones with sense and the ones without sense. i tried pretty much all of the roms and i can recommend you virtous inquisition when you prefer a senseless rom close to aosp (android open source project; stock android) or the insertcoin rom when you like sense and the sense apps / widgets. (i currently use insertcoin and it is frequently updated, offers an amazing battery life and a very fast and stable performance. same for virtuous inquisition)
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HyperNonSense is everything Virtuous Inquisition is, but without all of the glitches and with significantly increased speed and fluidity.
Part Five said:
I want whatever's closest to AOSP/CM9, but with everything working and running quickly. The only answer for that is the latest Hyper Nonsense.
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So the actual CM9 builds aren't doing it for ya are they?
When choosing a ROM I typically look at the bug list first to see if there are any show stoppers then its on to the comments posted to see what the general consensus of the ROM is.
Really though, I do a lot of sampling to get a feel for what ROMs I like best and narrow it down to just a few then flash between them depending on mood really and whether or not I feel like running AOSP or Sense based.
It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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It looks like I am going to go with hyper nonsense first to see how that pans out.
I have to say though, I have read the guide three times through and skimmed another dozen times, and honestly it's a little hard to follow for a noob like myself. Are there are any other versions of the guide to do all this?
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This guide is one of the best ones I've seen (it is specific for arhd but steps are basically the same for all roms with ics base):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1472298
It.is scary at first bit once you do it once it becomes a lot easier. Just take your time the first time, double check you've got the correct files, and then take a deep breath. LOTS of people have done it and I'm sure you'll be just fine.
-- Zeustopher
from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA
Apparently that is a very god guide, flashed with success, though I am having troubles with it, not aside from the fact that Titanium has been giving me issue hanging lots on certain installs, and now certain games crash upon loading past the main screen. and other games I now have touch issues, randomly it seems as it seems to freeze control for a few seconds.
ANd I am right in understanding now that my firmware is upto date I ca flash any ICS based rom?
I think it was the firmware issue that I missed in the hypernonsense rom thread, and that is why it banjaxed things to bits...
I am still looking at other roms bbig time like, I want go launcher as my base and I think the ICS base takes up far far too much space, I am getting lag with ARHD and not even all of my things are back in place.
The other issue I have is now I need to clean up my phone, 16gb card and I have barely 2gb left for all the different back ups...I only have 4gb or so in my documents folder which is where I keep nearly everything from pictures, music, videos and ebooks etc...
I think it will be easy enough to clean up some things, But for those apps that persistently bother me, Is there a good clean up tool, for destroying apps, plus data???Preferably a super user app with batch automation???
Zeustopher said:
One thing that I did when I first started choosing which rom to put on my Sensation was ask myself a few questions:
1) Do I want the phone to feel the same as it does now or be drastically different? (ie keep Sense [same as stock], no Sense, AOSP [Android Open Source Project] or MIUI)
2) Do I want to use a very popular rom or go with a much smaller, lesser known rom?
3) Am I T-Mobile and plan on using Wifi calling?
4) Which looks the way I want to have it look? (ie Themes, extra addons, etc)
5) Do I want something stable or something cutting edge?
6) A rom which has just been released in its first version or a rom that is on version 3 with 25 previous updates?
Asking myself those questions helped narrow things down for me.
The other thing I would suggest is try a few. Look and find a few that use the same firmware version as you are currently on (so you don't have to risk flashing back and forth between firmware versions). Download them and try them for a few hours (or a day) at a time and see what you think. The first time I "caught the romming bug" when I first flashed I chose ARHD because it was popular, stable, and very low risk. Right away I flashed several others such as InsertCoin, CoreDroid, Virtuous, etc and each had things I liked that I now use to determine what I want.
Ultimately for me, I use mine as a phone for texting and phone calls. I decided after trying many that I wanted it to be a popular rom that was reliable with no problems major problems.
I hope those questions help you out a little as you start making your decisions.
-- Zeustopher
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Thank you for the detailed info. I appreciate it. Helped me understand things a little bit better, since I am new to all this.:good:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
wjdijkstra said:
Hi guys,
My wife is getting a Sony Z, and giving me her old HTC Sensation Z710e. Ofcourse I will be giving it a custom rom asap! Already ordered a new 1800mah battery and a new digitizer screen, but now I have to choose which custom rom to put on it...
Can you guys help me choose?
My current phone is a Sony Xperia X10 mini, and i love it to bits! I'd love a little bit of the same user experience on the sensation
What I would like:
good battery life (new battery)
good camera (?)
no useless apps (some sort of light rom?)
I like the look and feel of a stock android phone (so AOSP based rom?)
if needed, I would like the phone to perform VERY good (performance on demand, tunable kernel?)
I'm thinking of the Sultan Kernel with Hyper Nonsense ROM, would you guys agree?
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Wow you are spot on!
I thought of recommending you cm10.1 kang or something.. But the good camera won't be a pass in this (hands down sense 3.6 camera is the best).. So your choice is perfect except you'll miss the latest version of android (jellybean)
Btw you should use sultans sense kernel as hyper non sense is still sense based but 99% sense stuff removed
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Hi I just bought my MT4GS a couple of days ago, I upgraded from a Mytouch 3g (SuperCSVI 4.0), I also want to modify this phone. Im looking for a rom that is stable, depenable, and fast. The development forms dosn't seem to be makeing much progress with jellybean other than wildchilds VanillaBean. Also I would help alot if it were Sense 4+. Can anybody help?
It sounds like you just described Virtuous Inquisition.
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It sounds like you just described Virtuous Inquisition.
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I have read about the rom, although I also read some complaints over it.
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I have read about the rom, although I also read some complaints over it.
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Its like this man, straight and to the point without being mean. You are not going to find ANY 100% solid ROM that no one has a complaint over. We have 2 ROMS based on Stock OTA Updates that's it. Everything else is a port of this or that or a build from source.
So you ask what do I gain if ROM X has this broken and ROM XX has this broken, well we have gained 2 updates past what HTC wanted us to have along with many more features, all while losing 1080 recording only.
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Its like this man, straight and to the point without being mean. You are not going to find ANY 100% solid ROM that no one has a complaint over. We have 2 ROMS based on Stock OTA Updates that's it. Everything else is a port of this or that or a build from source.
So you ask what do I gain if ROM X has this broken and ROM XX has this broken, well we have gained 2 updates past what HTC wanted us to have along with many more features, all while losing 1080 recording only.
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I understand what your saying, not even the stock roms are perfect either. thanks for explaining though. How about in this way then, what is the most stable and fastest, with the fewest bugs?
Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
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Just be sure and go to my mirror thread here in my signature and flash the Unofficial All Inclusive Patch along with it. It makes ALL the difference.
CM9.1 found in ROM Manager. Sense = bloatware
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blackknightavalon said:
CM9.1 found in ROM Manager. Sense = bloatware
Sent from Spaceball One.
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I love Sense. For me, the Sense ROMS like VI or MikXE (the one I'm running now) are far more stable and capable than CM9.
They both have their virtues but I'm like you and do love sense. I'm pretty impartial when it comes to either. I just enjoy being amazed at the capabilites of the developers' works that we all take advantage of and yet often critisize. I know I couldn't do what they do.
r1tesh said:
Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
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I had trouble finding the download link for 1.33 alpha 3. Finally found it here at Rootz (traced it from XDA through several pages at VirtuousRom.com and then finally to Rootz).
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Just be sure and go to my mirror thread here in my signature and flash the Unofficial All Inclusive Patch along with it. It makes ALL the difference.
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I assume this "all-inclusive" patch should be flashed AFTER upgrading to 1.35 beta 1?
OH yes. ROM.....OTA...then patch it all.
Need some help from you doubleshot-experienced folk, please!
r1tesh said:
Get the virtuous infinity 1.33 alpha 3 then get their vi updater apk and update to 1.35 beta 1 ....i am running that with the 3.0.39 kernel imbedded:everything works.....
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Where can I find this kernel? I'm looking and am not finding it. I'm trying to mimic your "everything works" setup and I think I've gotten what you said to get except for the kernel. I currently have 3.0.17-Don2x-gecb4581 and am experiencing the following two problems which seem to be very possibly kernel-related (otherwise I wouldn't bother):
1) Device randomly reports no signal when it should have a signal (either toggling Airplane Mode or a reboot always fixes this). Clearly, in this state, data, voice, and SMS do not work, which is quite problematic.
2) Battery randomly reports ~half of the capacity that it's really at (rebooting always fixes this). It's kinda strange - charging it overnight will only charge to 49%. But once you reboot it then it's magically at ~95%. (Yes, I've cleared battery stats.) And it seems to be fairly sporadic - doesn't always do this. Like I said, it's strange...
Also, what baseband should I be on? It's currently reporting 11.59.3504.00P_11.16.3504.20_2.
Lastly, for my "Build number", even though I've flashed the 1.35 beta 1 zip and running the OTA update APK, it still reports as "Virtuous Infinity v1.33.0 Alpha3". Is this right? Seems strange to me. Running the OTA Update apk again states that "The ROM developer has not enabled support for the OTA Updater! Please ask them (kindly) to add support before using this app! (otaupdater.otaid value empty or missing)".
If I've done something wrong, all of the above are the indications of such mistakes. Many thanks!
I don't know what happened unless you maybe got a corrupt download. The Mirrors, Tools.... thread in my sign. will give you another DL site. Post #3 Developer #2
That's the same Radio I have except mine is "00U" instead of "00P" . And that is the way the build reads on mine too. I think the Alpha designation tells the tale tho. Just try a full wipe and a reflash of new DL's. This has been one of the smoothest most solid ROMs I've run once it was patched. I HAVE heard of a couple of phones that didn't seem to like the all inclusive patch though. You might try just flashing those patches as a problem arises and you may get better responses from them. Kinda just a guess tho....
When I want fast, and stable, I go with Virtuous Inquisition. That one has the best day to day user experience for me. The only thing I miss with that ROM is the 1080P camcorder, and my stock camera with face detection, and burst shot that works etc.. The Brute Force TV Out add on is definitely not as good as the stock TV out and I miss that when using the Inquisition ROM as well. However, Inquisition is such a nice user experience that I use is often and keep a good nandroid of it. Even the hardware keyboard works the way I want it to include the Alt and CAPs lights.
When I really want to carry that good camera around and have TV out so I can bring Netflix to a friend's house that doesn't have Netflix, I still find myself booting up Bulletproof 1.0 (Before the green invasion). In that ROM I replaced all the pink apps with the "de-pinked" ones (Lockscreen, Contacts, Messages, Calendar etc.), changed the color of the pink message bubbles (ya know the ones that pop up with a number to tell you how many unread texts you have) to blue and I find this ROM to be nice stable user experience with some extra tweaks and extended power menu thanks to the groundwork laid out by RomanBB and then carried on by Blue6IX.
I'm keeping an eye on the MikTouch ROM based on the updated OTA stock ROM. That is a very smooth stock experience and I really appreciate that the developer (developers?) are still giving the Stock ROM some love and I feel it has great potential for those who don't want to lose ANY of the features that made this phone worth buying in the first place. Personally, I feel the hardware keyboard, camera, and TV out were the main reasons I bought this phone and I'm not willing to give those features up and switch to any other ROM full time regardless of how cool they look or how smooth they run.
I think the hard work by all the developers trying to give MT4GS more enhancements and options is amazing stuff and much appeciated, but Bulletproof and Inquisition are still my favorites at the moment. Unfortunately, neither project sees any further development so take it as it is, don't take it at all, or see what you can do to make them better for yourself.
Oh and if you want the ROM with the best battery life, it's the one with a Mugen 3600 battery...just sayin'. I have no complaints about battery life of any ROM with Mugen under the hood.
[UPDATE] MIkTouch is now my favored stock ROM choice.
siani_8 said:
...and if you want the ROM with the best battery life, it's the one with a Mugen 3600 battery...just sayin'. I have no complaints about battery life of any ROM with Mugen under the hood.
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Exactly. The only thing that was stopping me from using the CM7 Alpha was that the SD card wouldn't read.
well in regard to this post. i installed Jelly Bean(Vanilla Bean) rom on to mt4gs last night it has good potentioal but it is lackiing in alot places. i was previously using cyanogenmod9 alpha6 i believe and before i was using virtous 1.33 Alpha 3. however i wanted to know in your professional opinions are there any roms for MT4GS i should try. side note jelly bean is fast but cant use stock android keyboard, so i had to download from market those siine and swift keyboard apps to work also the rom is very twitchy. my mt4gs is with S-On. any opinions are welcome thank you.
One of those is a beta and one an alpha. Great work but not quite complete. There are several really great ROMs out there waiting to be tried. All you hvae to do is make a backup of the one you're on and check a few out. Try a few that are actual releases (you should be able to tell from the title) and see what you like. It's ALWAYS the best way.
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well in regard to this post. i installed Jelly Bean(Vanilla Bean) rom on to mt4gs last night it has good potentioal but it is lackiing in alot places. i was previously using cyanogenmod9 alpha6 i believe and before i was using virtous 1.33 Alpha 3. however i wanted to know in your professional opinions are there any roms for MT4GS i should try. side note jelly bean is fast but cant use stock android keyboard, so i had to download from market those siine and swift keyboard apps to work also the rom is very twitchy. my mt4gs is with S-On. any opinions are welcome thank you.
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Why you don't use this rom:
Leaked ROM 1.63.531.2 / Radio 11.59.3504.00_11.16.3504.20_2: (Full PG59IMG.zip)
form here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1254518
To S-Off go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17424340&postcount=24
or you can use this form virtuosrom:
[MT4GS][ROM][21-05-2012][Virtuous Primadonna v1.17.0 Alpha 3] Sense 4A - 4.0.3
Anyway, install Titanium backup and remove what u want; thats all.
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Hi I just bought my MT4GS a couple of days ago, I upgraded from a Mytouch 3g (SuperCSVI 4.0), I also want to modify this phone. Im looking for a rom that is stable, depenable, and fast. The development forms dosn't seem to be makeing much progress with jellybean other than wildchilds VanillaBean. Also I would help alot if it were Sense 4+. Can anybody help?
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Ive been searching for a solid rom since I got my phone in late November. Out of the 6 or so roms I have downloaded the most common problems are.
1) Software keyboard doesnt work.
2) USB File copying either doesnt work, requires a paid app or is very slow.
3) Battery drains faster or wont fully charge.
4) GPS becomes hit or miss
5) Support for promising roms suddenly stop, making you wait for someone else to port another rom which has almost the same sort of problems.
Most of the roms are stable, they are missing some critical things.
Before we get started, im looking for opinions more than help here, feel free.
Everyone says the choice of ROM is about personal preference & not so much performance.
From what i read its 50/50.
I run a stock ROM 4.0.3 HTC One XL (Telstra) with Sense 4.0
- unlocked
- rooted
- TWRP (clockworkmod didnt work)
I've narrowed my choices for a custom ROM down to
- MIUI
- CleanROM
- ViperXL
Im not exactly sure how to go about the backup of the stock ROM.
Coming from iOS, backing up the stock version meant simply keeping a copy of the original firmware.
I have installed
- Titanium Backup
- ROM manager
- Root explorer
Im not sure what other details are relevant, im new to android.
I want the end result to be efficient, at the moment im chewing through battery., and experiencing lag.
I want to be able set individual app permissions as at present i have processes chewing data that shouldnt be.
I want the ability to customize my UI, i change my mind every day.
I dont want bugs and i dont like it when things dont work the way they should.
Im not fussed with keeping anything of sense other than
- camera
- beats
I have found one helpful tutorial on backing up stock, but it uses clockworkmod in the example, i dont.
The others are all fairly non descript; "first back up, then flash"
I loved my jailbroken iPhone 4S and spent quite a deal of time getting to know it and customize it.
I want to do the same here but i dont want to screw it up.
The difference between the two, is that after all of my messing about, things on my iPhone worked the way i wanted them to.
Everything i have done so far on the one XL seems to come at the cost of performance.
I've held off for weeks trying to educate myself, but am growing impatient with my phones performance.
Feel free to share your opinions, and any good tutorials i might have missed.
Back up with TWRP (boot into recovery and choose backup). As for the ROM, look at the roms forums and choose the one you think fits your needs. I am running viper, very customizable and I personally have no issues. I am also running the 2.29 radio an battery has been great.
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do you have issues with performance or stability? i usually worry about the latter.
try to find the bug reports for the ROMs you're looking at. the JB ROMs are a lot less stable at this point, but it's fun to participate with development!
Sent from my One X
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Back up with TWRP (boot into recovery and choose backup). As for the ROM, look at the roms forums and choose the one you think fits your needs. I am running viper, very customizable and I personally have no issues. I am also running the 2.29 radio an battery has been great.
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Cheers. Pretty much what im doing.
I just dont know which one fits my needs.
Tbh alot of it is still babble at this point.
kakeeman said:
do you have issues with performance or stability? i usually worry about the latter.
try to find the bug reports for the ROMs you're looking at. the JB ROMs are a lot less stable at this point, but it's fun to participate with development!
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Stability is obviously a real concern.
But performance is equally weighted.
I dont think we should have to trade on for the other.
I been reading the bug reports, its the reason i'm still on stock.
5 - 10 years ago i'd be all into development.
Adulthood sux. I get to play with my phone for like an hour a day.
i understand that! originally i rooted and unlocked the bootloader, then flashed the safe 2.20 build that's around here somewhere. pretty basic and bug-free!
now i'm running the CNA ROM and there are some issues, but i have a little time on my hands at the moment to work around them. jellybean is cool, though!
i like ROMs that are simpler- i don't care to delve into GUI tweaks or crazy hacks. just want to get rid of the bloat and set things up the way i like.
i'm curious, though... have you had performance issues?
Sent from my One X
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- then flashed the safe 2.20 build that's around here somewhere. pretty basic and bug-free!
- now i'm running the CNA ROM and there are some issues
- i like ROMs that are simpler- i don't care to delve into GUI tweaks or crazy hacks. just want to get rid of the bloat and set things up the way i like.
- i'm curious, though... have you had performance issues?
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- 2.20 was ICS i take it?
- CNA???
- same, i want rid of bloat, and i want the freedom to set it up the way i like it.
- yeah i think i have, whether theyre any different to what the majority experience im not sure.
I unlocked, rooted, and started researching custom ROMs, until then i began customizing as much as i can;
- launcher
- lock screen
- widgets
- dock
- music player
- browser
Installed & deleted more apps than i care to think about in a process of trial and error.
When i had a setup that was almost what i want, i kept it and got rid of the rest, but;
- screen transitions are now not as smooth as stock.
- exiting apps or waking from sleep sometimes causes the whole screen to get retarded for a bit before the launcher loads everything.
- battery life is a major issue.
- data usage from apps that should be using it is also a problem.
Wobzy said:
- 2.20 was ICS i take it?
- CNA???
- Installed & deleted more apps than i care to think about in a process of trial and error
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- yeah, 2.20 is ICS. from what i gather, most JB ROMs right now still haven't got the kinks worked out of them because devs don't have HTC source code to pull from. could be wrong on that one.
- CNA = codename android. i'm using it right now. i like it and there are no dealbreaker bugs for me.
- sounds like me. i had a really old galaxy S1 that got realllllyyy slow in its old age. it's a balancing thing, i guess; some apps just have sloppy coding. i think launchers and their settings do make quite the difference in some cases, though.
kakeeman said:
- CNA = codename android. i'm using it right now. i like it and there are no dealbreaker bugs for me.
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Sweet, taking a look now. Tidy download, about the smallest ive seen.
Yeah i can understand an old phone getting slow and laggy in its old age.
I've had the HOXL for about a month.
Hoping a clean custom and minimal messing about with additional apps will fix it now that i have an idea where im headed.
Cheers for the input.
1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
Wipe dalvik, wipe cache then flash Gapps. That's fixed it in several instances.
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Whoareyou said:
Or use jellybam or pacman
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Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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strapped365 said:
Eh he wants ICS not JellyBean. I may go on a scattered search to see if either ROM has an ICS counterpart though
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Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
greowulf said:
Trying JellyBAM. Camera crashes the phone when flash goes off (although flashlight works fine). My corporate mail/calendar account also can't access the right security settings, so I'm crippled for work purposes. If you use these features, consider something other than JellyBAM.
Tried PACman but switched. Don't recall why, now. Maybe I'll try it again. . . .
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PACman and JellyBAM have the same base and kernel so you will have the same issues connecting to work email.
I've seen other users post this about the camera flash crashing things, but I was never able to recreate it. So I just summed it up to an improper wipe/flash. No one has offered any kind of logs either to go along with said crashes, but that's not saying it will help because again we can't recreate these issues during testing.
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sheybklyn said:
1-) Sick of GB and Im not a huge Sence fan, although I can live with it if needed... Is JB possible? Working 100%?
2-) HBOOT 1.45.0013, S-ON, & I don't really feel like doing any wiretrick, although I will if needed, is this still the best way to go?
edit #1: CM9 installed! (flashed boot.img with fastboot), back button doesnt work on front of phone.. researching..
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MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Scverhagen's CM9.1 releases have far fewer issues in my opinion than the MyTouch Stock gingerbread 2.3.4. I'm still running r7.
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Inaccurate exaggeration is nobody's friend. It's a nice ROM, sure, but saying it has less issues than stock? You just lost any further credibility.
Happens to be my opinion based on my own personal experience however. And will remain so.
I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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I'm kinda like you david, I consider a ROM 100% when it runs 100% of the things I have to have or need. I realize it can't be like that for everyone but for those that it is, it allows a person to enjoy WAY more ROMs. JMO.....
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But when I read reviews of a ROM, maybe I'm wanting to try it but trying to determine what things other people are encountering. Someone who says, "This ROM is perfect! Everything works!" but then I find out that, no, everything doesn't work and even they later admit that "some things aren't working but I can overlook that", well, that totally invalidates the entire thread. How am I to trust anything that person writes about anything else? Yes, we have subjective opinions about ROMs, but it does nobody any favor to exaggerate the abilities of a ROM. If you tell me a ROM is perfect and "better than stock", then I have some extra high expectations.
I understand completely. But there is more to a declaration of perfection than the statement itself. It would depend on who makes it and their knowledge of different ROMs but to me it just means it's damn close. I usually find out the details when I run it myself. That's when I'm reminded that nothing is perfect. Even the original developers don't distribute perfection and there is a HUGE well paid team of them.
I can appreciate anyone's expectations of a shared original ROM or a port to be one of perfection but that usually means the person with those expectations just doesn't realize all that's involved. People have to remember that this is more a personally fulfilling "hobby" than their vocation.
My biggest frustration is people wanting something that works 100%. Compared to what? Stock? Half the time the "Stock" ROMs have their own issues. That's why we root and ROM, to improve the experience over Stock.
What features do you want? What's your opinion of 100%? Sense? AOSP?
Hell, even the title of the thread isn't 100% accurate. There isn't an official ICS ROM, so there can't be a debloated version. And the word "Best" implies that there are at least 2 ICS Roms that work 100%....
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(Crap, I obviously need more sleep over the weekends....)
Weekends are too short ya know.
Fuzi0719 said:
MT4GS ICS ROM that works 100%? It doesn't exist.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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Exactly This.
In even the best ICS "closest to what factory would be" ROM I've found (Virtuous Primadonna), 1080p recording, WiFi calling, and tethering were borked. To me 100% means 100% as in all options the phone came with work and not having options taken away.
MikTouch is still the best I've found. Once the Xperia ZL drop for purchase I'm bailing on my MT4GS. I absolutely love this phone, but I hate HTC with a burning of a thousand suns for bailing on this phone which was supposed to be a flagship device.
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wifi calling works on ALL ics roms. there is a workaround for tethering involving barnacle and open garden. so that leaves 1080p recording
mattlowry said:
wifi calling works on ALL ics roms.
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News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
WangChung81 said:
News to me. Last I read a week ago when I looked into it T-Mobs app still wasn't working correctly
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Did you flash the wifi calling patch and push gan optimizer.apk to system apps?
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Looking for a stable daily driver for my friend whom I am giving my phone to, now that I have a nexus 5 almost here.
She needs something stable. This phone has ran Cyanogen for a while and I just wouldnt feel comfortable giving it to her with the finicky data, odd call problems from time to time, etc.
So, in terms of stability over features, which would you recommend?
SourcE is maximus with some tweaks. Nothing very special, so the stability isn't really modified. But you have some interesting tweaks in SourcE: better quality pictures, better sound, gif recording, etc.
So I think you can give to your friend your One S with SourcE 2
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Maximus.
The "better picture quality" and "gif recording" can be flashed using pirlano and TheEndHK's camera mod. Better sound quality produced by V4A is also downloadable. The only thing i wanted more from maximus are tweaks, though we can use xposed framework and sense 5 toolbox module.
But you can never go wrong with both source and maximus since both of them uses the same updated firmware..
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SourcE is maximus with some tweaks. Nothing very special, so the stability isn't really modified. But you have some interesting tweaks in SourcE: better quality pictures, better sound, gif recording, etc.
So I think you can give to your friend your One S with SourcE 2
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Being as I have never used Maximus or SourcE, how does it compare to stock? Same issues with screen on lag as other 3.4 roms? Signal stability compared to stock?
I am in the US
phin586 said:
Being as I have never used Maximus or SourcE, how does it compare to stock? Same issues with screen on lag as other 3.4 roms? Signal stability compared to stock?
I am in the US
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It is comparable to stock, not the 3.4 roms. Meaning, no lag and signal is good.
I do find it irritating that with the new firmware you need to use the modified twrp which will cannot mount usb storage. Also the backup feature can put your backups in the wrong directory. So you have to move them for them to show up.
So for me, it is just the recovery that I don't like.
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It is comparable to stock, not the 3.4 roms. Meaning, no lag and signal is good.
I do find it irritating that with the new firmware you need to use the modified twrp which will cannot mount usb storage. Also the backup feature can put your backups in the wrong directory. So you have to move them for them to show up.
So for me, it is just the recovery that I don't like.
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Cool, thanks for the info. I will definitely give it a try for a few weeks and see if she likes it. I can always revert to stock.
phin586 said:
Cool, thanks for the info. I will definitely give it a try for a few weeks and see if she likes it. I can always revert to stock.
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If you like aosp, CM 10 is very stable, and particularly light ... which makes it quite responsive and quick. If she would prefer sense, then stock 4.1 will be absolutely trouble free. I use rom cleaner to strip out all the bloat, which makes the stock rom fly. In my experience, most women want stability over anything else ... they just want things to work.
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If you like aosp, CM 10 is very stable, and particularly light ... which makes it quite responsive and quick. If she would prefer sense, then stock 4.1 will be absolutely trouble free. I use rom cleaner to strip out all the bloat, which makes the stock rom fly. In my experience, most women want stability over anything else ... they just want things to work.
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As stated in my first post, CM has not been very stable. Connection issues, each update always brings a new issue. I run CM as it is..
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As stated in my first post, CM has not been very stable. Connection issues, each update always brings a new issue. I run CM as it is..
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I wasn't talking about the current CM 10.2 updates (Android 4.3) ... CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) is absolutely stable, and it still has most of the functionality of the latest and greatest.
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I wasn't talking about the current CM updates (Android 4.3) ... CM 10 (Android 4.1.2) is absolutely stable, and it still has most of the functionality of the latest and greatest.
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Fair enough. I think she would enjoy the features of the Sense camera and the added apps. Shes a android noob.
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Fair enough. I think she would enjoy the features of the Sense camera and the added apps. Shes a android noob.
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Then stock 4.1 will be the most stable of all ... it's what my wife runs on her T-Mobile One S.
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Then stock 4.1 will be the most stable of all ... it's what my wife runs on her T-Mobile One S.
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Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
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Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
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Some have had pretty good success with Maximus, and for the most part stable. Others have had some glitches along the way, and they simply won't be as stable as the Stock RUU. My One S has been rooted and s-off since day one ... and I have tried all the major custom roms. It doesn't bother me when something goes wrong, because I know how to fix it. My wife, however, really gets upset when glitches occur on her phone, so we keep it simple, stable ... everything just works. I might add that the T-Mobile Stock RUU is no slouch ... it runs very well.
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Some have had pretty good success with Maximus, and for the most part stable. Others have had some glitches along the way, and they simply won't be as stable as the Stock RUU. My One S has been rooted and s-off since day one ... and I have tried all the major custom roms. It doesn't bother me when something goes wrong, because I know how to fix it. My wife, however, really gets upset when glitches occur on her phone, so we keep it simple, stable ... everything just works. I might add that the T-Mobile Stock RUU is no slouch ... it runs very well.
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Ya I am thinking that is going to be the way. Who knows, maybe we will get luck with KITKAT. =S
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Ya I am thinking that is going to be the way. Who knows, maybe we will get luck with KITKAT. =S
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That would be wonderful if it were to happen, but unfortunately HTC has turned it's back on the One S. There will most likely be some custom 4.4 roms, but once again it will be difficult to make them completely stable. I am seriously thinking about moving on to the Moto X, and giving my One S a well deserved rest ... it's been a great phone!
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That would be wonderful if it were to happen, but unfortunately HTC has turned it's back on the One S. There will most likely be some custom 4.4 roms, but once again it will be difficult to make them completely stable. I am seriously thinking about moving on to the Moto X, and giving my One S a well deserved rest ... it's been a great phone!
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I am picking up a N5, just waiting for it to be delivered.
After this last foray with HTC, I do not see myself leaving the Nexus ecosphere, in well... ever...
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I am picking up a N5, just waiting for it to be delivered.
After this last foray with HTC, I do not see myself leaving the Nexus ecosphere, in well... ever...
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Good choice ... looks like a great phone. Before my One S, I carried a Nexus device. I really prefer stock Android. I considered the Nexus 5, but it just doesn't fit my hands ... hence the Moto X. Anyway ... have fun with your new phone!
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Gotcha. Someone stated that Maximus and SourcE are comparable in stability. Wondering what issues are apparent, compared to stock. I wish Dev's would dedicated a 1st or 2nd post to list of known issues. :-\
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Maximus is completely a stock HTC One S 4.2.2 RUU but just you've to install it via manual RUU installation method so it is a bit trouble. SourcE is based on Maximus with little necessary and very important tweaks, they are pretty much the same, I'll strongly prefer SourcE.
You have to install this "Maximus/SourcE RUU" via command prompt and there are just too many noobs around and some probably need to go for English lessons because they fail to read the procedure every time so they never flash it successfully. But remember your One S has to be a S-OFF device to do that.
To the stability problem, there are radio bugs in Maximus/SourcE but that is HTC fault, nothing wrong to the rom developers. This is a case to case by bias, personally I don't have any problem at all. You have to try it out because we don't know if the radio compatible to your carrier network or not.
1. Some got very poor in-call volume
2. Some got mobile data slow problem
3. Some got mobile signal weak problem
Basically, that's all the problem listed but I don't meet any single one. The radio 1.20 in Maximus/SourcE does working with my Hong Kong carrier network quite well. You can flash older radio like 1.1x to fix all above problem but it will create a random data disconnection bug.
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Maximus is completely a stock HTC One S 4.2.2 RUU but just you've to install it via manual RUU installation method so it is a bit trouble. SourcE is based on Maximus with little necessary and very important tweaks, they are pretty much the same, I'll strongly prefer SourcE.
You have to install this "Maximus/SourcE RUU" via command prompt and there are just too many noobs around and some probably need to go for English lessons because they fail to read the procedure every time so they never flash it successfully. But remember your One S has to be a S-OFF device to do that.
To the stability problem, there are radio bugs in Maximus/SourcE but that is HTC fault, nothing wrong to the rom developers. This is a case to case by bias, personally I don't have any problem at all. You have to try it out because we don't know if the radio compatible to your carrier network or not.
1. Some got very poor in-call volume
2. Some got mobile data slow problem
3. Some got mobile signal weak problem
Basically, that's all the problem listed but I don't meet any single one. The radio 1.20 in Maximus/SourcE does working with my Hong Kong carrier network quite well. You can flash older radio like 1.1x to fix all above problem but it will create a random data disconnection bug.
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Appreciate you going into all the detail, but these issues are exactly what many people are trying to avoid with their One S. That is why we were talking about what our better halves were not willing to tolerate.
Same as @TheEndHK, i don't have those issues as well, in fact the in call audio volume on mine is much louder than when i was on viper. The 1.20 radio brought me much stronger wifi signal and stability on mobile data, though some places i have full network coverage became weaker but not that much. Not all of us experienced those issues, and you won't know that if you will or will not experience it either if you haven't tried it yourself. :thumbup: