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Can i root my asian sensation and keep my phone s-off? If so, how?
Are you serious? Hurrp Durrp use the search.
of course not
S-off means writing to /system. Root requires write access to /system in order to get the app + 18056377243 binary.
So no.
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idan_mo said:
Can i root my asian sensation and keep my phone s-off? If so, how?
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geoffcorey said:
S-off means writing to /system. Root requires write access to /system in order to get the app + 18056377243 binary.
So no.
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Technically the answer is YES on the Sensation because you can use the HTC unlock method to install a custom recovery and flash Superuser to give your current Rom root access without going S-Off.
But using Revolutionary to S-Off your phone is the superior method to use and gives you more options in the future.
tpbklake said:
Technically the answer is YES on the Sensation because you can use the HTC unlock method to install a custom recovery and flash Superuser to give your current Rom root access without going S-Off.
But using Revolutionary to S-Off your phone is the superior method to use and gives you more options in the future.
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Using the htc method still gets you to s-off, and then end goal the person doesn't want.
You cannot write to /system without some sort of s-off. And the htc way is one of the two ways to get s-off.
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geoffcorey said:
Using the htc method still gets you to s-off, and then end goal the person doesn't want.
You cannot write to /system without some sort of s-off. And the htc way is one of the two ways to get s-off.
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Whatever dude. The HTC Unlock method unlocks the boot loader, but it still reports S-Off as indicated by several posts in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16865964&postcount=71
When you boot into the unlocked boot loader, the boot loader commands have
special access to some of the partitions such as /system, but you are limited by what the commands can flash.
yup. the HTC method while gives you s-off doesn't allow you to root the phone or install a custom ROM.
I had read through the user guide at XDA, about the uninstall HTC SYNC. Uninstall HTC sync is on HTC phone or computer or both?
It is Rooting method for Samsung Galaxy S2 and HTC Sensation is different?
jordontin said:
I had read through the user guide at XDA, about the uninstall HTC SYNC. Uninstall HTC sync is on HTC phone or computer or both?
It is Rooting method for Samsung Galaxy S2 and HTC Sensation is different?
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You only need to uninstall HTC Sync on your PC, not the phone.
Yes, the rooting process is different between SGS2 and HTC Sensation.
If i using Revolutionary tool to S-OFF and root the HTC Sensation, does it make changes on stock ROM, Kernel, driver (e.g 3G), etc?
It is Revolutionary tool compatible for all version of the HTC Sensation? Because i'm from Malaysia.
If my HTC Sensation got hardware problem need to claim warranty, can i unS-OFF and un-root it?
jordontin said:
If i using Revolutionary tool to S-OFF and root the HTC Sensation, does it make changes on stock ROM, Kernel, driver (e.g 3G), etc?
It is Revolutionary tool compatible for all version of the HTC Sensation? Because i'm from Malaysia.
If my HTC Sensation got hardware problem need to claim warranty, can i unS-OFF and un-root it?
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Doesn't change anything, you just get access to write to /system and all that good stuff. Yes revolutionary is compatible to all sensations.
You can also revert to s-on per the same guide to s-off.
If its a hardware problem that has absolutely nothing to do with software(like volume rocker falling off) then I don't c y it should b a problem claiming warranty regardless if ur s-off/on.
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I understand that HTC will release a new update for all HTC device to unlock the bootloader.
Recently i just got an software update fromHTC. Software number is "1.45.707.1" running Android 2.3.4. It is this software number already unlock the bootloader?
If the bootloader already unlock do i need to S-OFF in order to root my HTC Sensation?
What are the different in between S-OFF and unlock bootloader?
jordontin said:
I understand that HTC will release a new update for all HTC device to unlock the bootloader.
Recently i just got an software update fromHTC. Software number is "1.45.707.1" running Android 2.3.4. It is this software number already unlock the bootloader?
If the bootloader already unlock do i need to S-OFF in order to root my HTC Sensation?
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The update itself doesn't automatically unlock the bootloader of all sensations...it only makes them compatible with HTC's unlock tool.
If you don't mind me asking, is there a reason that you seem to want to avoid the revolutionary unlock? It's generally regarded as the better method since its reversible and doesn't require you to reveal to HTC that you're unlocked.
I want root my HTC sensation on the safe way, so i need to do some research. Because i still new on rooting android device.
After S-OFF the bootloader, do i need to check compatible of baseband version and build number before i root the HTC sensation?
What i know is for Samsung Galaxy S2 need to check this.
jordontin said:
I want root my HTC sensation on the safe way, so i need to do some research. Because i still new on rooting android device.
After S-OFF the bootloader, do i need to check compatible of baseband version and build number before i root the HTC sensation?
What i know is for Samsung Galaxy S2 need to check this.
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IMHO, revolutionary is the safer method to unlock since you can reverse it for warranty purposes. Supposedly HTC will honor hardware warranty issues even if you use the official unlock but I can't confirm that (they did with my nexus one though). Why risk getting denied though?
AFAIK, all current bootloaders, radios (basebands), and ROMs are compatible with each other in the sense that it will work. Some radios work better with some roms but no combination that I'm aware of will result in a brick. It's not like the G1 days where you had to make sure that your radio was compatible with your SPL and flashing them in the wrong order would make the device unbootable.
So I will have to s-off with Windows and then I can root with my Mac ? Sorry for sounding dumb...... Just still stuck in iPhone land lol htc sensation with 2.3.4
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You don't have to do anything to root unless you're going to stay on the stock rom. Custom roms are already rooted. To root a stock rom, you flash the root files from recovery, no pc needed.
moto211 said:
You don't have to do anything to root unless you're going to stay on the stock rom. Custom roms are already rooted. To root a stock rom, you flash the root files from recovery, no pc needed.
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I would like to check out custom roms ..... I updated to 2.3.4 and that should be ok ?
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I used the one click root method and HTC Dev unlock, will Boot Manager (pro) work on my device? Has anyone else used it on their HTC One X ATT?
The app says it requires S-OFF, which I believe I have because of my HTC Dev unlock.
Mike724 said:
I used the one click root method and HTC Dev unlock, will Boot Manager (pro) work on my device? Has anyone else used it on their HTC One X ATT?
The app says it requires S-OFF, which I believe I have because of my HTC Dev unlock.
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You do not have s-off (there is no s-off method for this phone yet), and no that will not work.
Okay i just bought a brand new ATT HTC One X and out of the box it comes with 4.1.1 and is build 3.18 with the 2.14 hboot.
i have flashed htc phones before and so im not new to it.
HOWEVER! lol
I was looking over the forum (and as confusing as it is with the different versions of the htc one x/xl/s/whatever else ) i believe this is the correct forum.
I am completely stock and those are my build and hboot out of the box. I want to root/unlock BL but so far no luck with any of the exploits.
Anyone here successfully rooted a 3.18 one x? or could i flash an RUU for the 2.20 build? how would i flash without first being rooted/custom recovery?
sorry if seem noob questions, been browsing the forums and google/bing all day and can't find a straight answer.
Bubbled said:
Anyone here successfully rooted a 3.18 one x? or could i flash an RUU for the 2.20 build? how would i flash without first being rooted/custom recovery?
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Unfortunately the answers are no and no. JB is decent even on fully stock AT&T, you will just have to look the other way when scrolling through your app tray
I don't think the current root methods allow for the 3.18 build to gain root. Might be in the 2.20 boat all over again until someone can find a definite procedure.
soooooooooooooooooooooo lame. my rezound had viper rez rom and it was based off one x jb but had all the tweaks and stuff so right now its like a major downgrade lol
guess i'll cry and wait for the HTC One to come out later this month, since i only grabbed the one x cause it was literally 11 cents at walmart with a 14 day return and my rezound is acting up and randomly restarting/tanking battery!
sigh
thanks for the info though Groovy
Bubbled said:
Okay i just bought a brand new ATT HTC One X and out of the box it comes with 4.1.1 and is build 3.18 with the 2.14 hboot.
i have flashed htc phones before and so im not new to it.
HOWEVER! lol
I was looking over the forum (and as confusing as it is with the different versions of the htc one x/xl/s/whatever else ) i believe this is the correct forum.
I am completely stock and those are my build and hboot out of the box. I want to root/unlock BL but so far no luck with any of the exploits.
Anyone here successfully rooted a 3.18 one x? or could i flash an RUU for the 2.20 build? how would i flash without first being rooted/custom recovery?
sorry if seem noob questions, been browsing the forums and google/bing all day and can't find a straight answer.
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I had exact the same issue and trust me I tried everything I could find. Finally I used exploit v2.1.1 and then rooted with Revolution HD Root using TWRP 2.4.1.0...
lightflier said:
I had exact the same issue and trust me I tried everything I could find. Finally I used exploit v2.1.1 and then rooted with Revolution HD Root using TWRP 2.4.1.0...
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Try that and you'll get a brick. Those are tools/roms for the Tegra 3 One X.
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iElvis said:
Try that and you'll get a brick. Those are tools/roms for the Tegra 3 One X.
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OK...
I thought something like this would work:
1. HTCdev bootloader unlock
2. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
3. Achieve SuperCID (can do this via TWRP adb?)
4. Run S-OFF procedure
juicejuice said:
I thought something like this would work:
1. HTCdev bootloader unlock
2. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
3. Achieve SuperCID (can do this via TWRP adb?)
4. Run S-OFF procedure
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AT&T version of the One X isn't officially supported by htcdev to unlock boot loader (which is why many needed to change cid). If people who have the AT&T version are s-on, relocked, RUUed to 2.20, and flashed ota, they cannot root/unlock boot loader unless an amazing dev creates an exploit
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panda_mode said:
AT&T version of the One X isn't officially supported by htcdev to unlock boot loader (which is why many needed to change cid). If people who have the AT&T version are s-on, relocked, RUUed to 2.20, and flashed ota, they cannot root/unlock boot loader unless an amazing dev creates an exploit
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Damn that's annoying! If that were me I would sell my AT&T phone and with the cash buy an overseas One XL model with 32GB
juicejuice said:
I thought something like this would work:
1. HTCdev bootloader unlock
2. Flash custom recovery (TWRP)
3. Achieve SuperCID (can do this via TWRP adb?)
4. Run S-OFF procedure
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The AT&T CID is blocked within HTCDev.com. A unique situation, almost certainly directed by AT&T. Therefore, on AT&T version of the One X, you need at least temp root to change the CID, then you can unlock the bootloader.
No root/temp root on AT&T 3.18 = no bootloader unlock. It also means no S-off (since you need root to change the CID).
redpoint73 said:
The AT&T CID is blocked within HTCDev.com. A unique situation, almost certainly directed by AT&T. Therefore, on AT&T version of the One X, you need at least temp root to change the CID, then you can unlock the bootloader.
No root/temp root on AT&T 3.18 = no bootloader unlock. It also means no S-off (since you need root to change the CID).
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At least 1 person had success with xfactor so he could try but if it doesn't work then he's sol
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area51avenger said:
At least 1 person had success with xfactor so he could try but if it doesn't work then he's sol
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I suppose it doesn't hurt to try. Otherwise, I'd just take the phone back, if root/S-off, etc. is important to the OP. I assume 11 cents is a subsidized price. So no point in using up an upgrade on a phone that can't be modded, if he wants to get the HTC One when its released.
OP may also check to see if the store has any older stock with 2.20 firmware (or any previous firmware version except 3.18). Phones with 3.18 out of the box must be very new, so I wouldn't be surprised if they had some older stock also.
I returned the one x today. will be looking into the t-mobile version of the HTC One which they told me comes out friday the 22nd. being a new phone i know i wont be able to do any mods or anything for a while, but that won't take long with the awesome Devs we have here! All the other models of the One X were sold out, and im guessing that someone realized that the new firmware was Out of Box so picked em all up. only had 2-3 stores with one each so its possible. now all the new stores have the new firmware no big deal, i'd prefer an HTC DNA anyways, but we'll see what the One is all about.
redpoint73 said:
The AT&T CID is blocked within HTCDev.com. A unique situation, almost certainly directed by AT&T. Therefore, on AT&T version of the One X, you need at least temp root to change the CID, then you can unlock the bootloader.
No root/temp root on AT&T 3.18 = no bootloader unlock. It also means no S-off (since you need root to change the CID).
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I tried Xfactor and it said the cid for my device out of box 3.18 firmware 2.14 hboot was CID Cws__001.
Techinstein said:
I tried Xfactor and it said the cid for my device out of box 3.18 firmware 2.14 hboot was CID Cws__001.
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Yes, the CID for AT&T is cws_001 on all of the previous firmware versions, as well. This hasn't changed. cws__001 is blocked on HTCDev.com.
So i have the key for my past bootloader unlock can i use it?
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coldrazor said:
So i have the key for my past bootloader unlock can i use it?
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Yes.
If you were unlocked before, how did you get on the 3.18 RUU/OTA? Did you change your CID back to AT&T's CID? Or did you S-off.
If you are S-off, no need to unlock the bootloader.
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Yes.
If you were unlocked before, how did you get on the 3.18 RUU/OTA? Did you change your CID back to AT&T's CID? Or did you S-off.
If you are S-off, no need to unlock the bootloader.
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Yes, you still need to have the bootloader unlocked to write to recovery and some other stuff. I tested this myself.
exad said:
Yes, you still need to have the bootloader unlocked to write to recovery and some other stuff. I tested this myself.
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Really? Kinda negates part of the purpose of having S-off, doesn't it?
Hi, I Just picked up the HTC One X earlier last month and decided that I wouldn't root until I realized that there's certain apps I use that won't run without root (sixaxis controller for example) so after I had already updated to 4.1.1, I figured that I'd enable USB debugging and so that I could receive root access using Hasoon 2000's simple all in one toolkit, however I can't get the xFactor root exploit that changes your CID working..
I'll get prompted to restore first backup, which doesn't work (starts, then ends immediately), it automatically tries a second time, then sends me to the bootloader. I then get prompted to check my CID before I proceed, and it still hasn't changed from my original 'Rogers01" CID to the 1111-sequence of numbers. I have the latest HTC drivers installed for my One X..
Anyone have a clue on what's going on here? Could this be happening because I updated?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
TL;DR version
I updated to 4.1.1. and I'm trying to root, can't change CID
I don't think you have to change cid with rogers just go to htcdev.com get you unlock token unlock boatloader push a recovery then flash a Rom and boot.I'mg
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jerrycoffman45 said:
I don't think you have to change cid with rogers just go to htcdev.com get you unlock token unlock boatloader push a recovery then flash a Rom and boot.I'mg
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awesome, thanks pal
I just didn't want to ruin anything. works great, thanks!
I thought you couldn't root from stock 4.1.1...I'm so confused now.
Mozgus said:
I thought you couldn't root from stock 4.1.1...I'm so confused now.
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You can't if you on att because atts cid is blocked on htcdev.com and so you need to change your cid to supercid which we can't do on 4.1.1 yet
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jerrycoffman45 said:
You can't if you on att because atts cid is blocked on htcdev.com and so you need to change your cid to supercid which we can't do on 4.1.1 yet
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Oh, Rogers is a Canadian provider? Didn't realize what that was til now. Ok then. Bummer.
Hello
I just recently purchased a HTC Desire 601 Zara. It's network locked with Alltel. This past weekend I did unlock the bootloader via the HTC Dev website. I tried to root the device with Kingo. When Kingo would go through it's procedures and at the end would say root was successful. But the phone isn't rooted. I can open up Kingo again and it would say "Rooted: no" . and Rom manager says it's not rooted. Also I noticed after trying to root the phone, bootloader has "tampered". This tampered message didn't appear until after trying to root the device. It wasn't there after I unlocked the bootloader. Based on what I'm reading, I can't get the tampered messaged off until I get the S-ON to S-Off. Wondering how I can do that easily and also I'm having a hard time finding stock ROM so I can use CWM. Where can I find stock ROM for this phone? Thanks in advance for any help.
Anyone??
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