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Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.
The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.
Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.
Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.
n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
youbrokeit said:
according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(
I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.
issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?
Some of this needs to be done from a PC......
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!
Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE
Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks
Hi,
I've searched high and low for a anwser but I have not been able to find one. Why did I have perfect 2 way syncing of my hotmail account on my WiMo Touch Diamond but not on my Legend. I know hotmail is pop only but if for whatever reason it works on WM, it should also be possible to get it working on android right? Being able to read mail is one of the reasons I buy phones like this but deleted messages by pc, read/unread messages not properly syncing between the web interface and the android client is really annoing.
As there seems to be no solution for this, and it doesnt seem there is any hope for a ''fix'' all I want to know is how and why it can work on wm but not on android?
I'm on the same page as you. I have a motorola cliq xt and my hotmail only syncs new messages, not my deleted ones. Also, theres no support for syncing all your folders or support for outgoing mail servers that require authentication. Is there anyword if this issue is addressed in android 2.2?
Regards,
Sarge21rvb
sarge21rvb said:
I'm on the same page as you. I have a motorola cliq xt and my hotmail only syncs new messages, not my deleted ones. Also, theres no support for syncing all your folders or support for outgoing mail servers that require authentication. Is there anyword if this issue is addressed in android 2.2?
Regards,
Sarge21rvb
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the reason is that is how POP works. POP mail isnt like IMAP. POP is you just pull the new data and whatever device actually stores the email. POP protocol is more of a temporary storage. When new mail comes in, it sits in the POP inbox untill a client picks it up and then it is deleted from the POP server. Hotmail POP acts a little differently in that when the POP email is reteived, it does not delete the email from hotmail inbox. But it is deleted from the POP server. Why could you do it with your WinMo, because microsoft allowed activesync access for there devices. Kinda like how Googles Android is the only mobile OS that has full 2way push support for gmail.
i moved from windows mobile to android just about a month ago, and to be honest android is substantially better in every way possible, been loving it
now the only thing that has really bothered me is that the default email app from android is a piece of crap... unless you use gmail of course because gmail only has labels and it flushes all your email to a single folder.
i use hotmail and i receive many emails so i do need to use the folders, and i have to have them organized as such in my phone. windows mobile used arcsoft to organize the folders, and it worked great, but i haven't found a similar alternative on android or the market, does anyone know of one?
i even have an iTouch and there is an application in the iOS market that will arrange your emails into folders like they are found in my e-mail...
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys!
Hotmail is POP only. You could have your gmail account fetch your email from hotmail and then use gmail's label system to organize your mail.
If hotmail allows you to set a forward you could get an email account that supports IMap and then you will have folder support.
I had this same problem, it was initially very hard for me to go from WinMo to Android for this reason (also, no spell check? WTF google). There is a mail app out there that supports push Hotmail (like WinMo) somehow. I believe it is called Seven or something along those lines....in beta and not in the Market.
I ended up just forwarding my Hotmail account to my Gmail one and using that. Hard to get used to, but certainly worth it for push support. You can also import all your messages in your hotmail account into your gmail archives (stored under a different label) through the gmail settings. Finally, you can toggle gmail to use your hotmail account as your return address if that's something important to you for whatever reason.
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Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a n00b question but I would like to sync my emails from my PC with my phone.
On the PC I use thunderbird to download all emails (got like 6 email accounts) to the pc and delete them from the server immidiately. (I've had accounts beeing hacked in the past because I left password emails etc in my inbox, so I started to delete them from server instead of leaving them on for more security - so I can't just "download them again" from the phone - I will need to sync the phone with the data from the PC. I could switch my email client program off course if thats needed, but I rather not let the messages lay somewhere online.
Can someone maybe explain to me how that would work or give me a link or smth?
It would be perfect if it would work both sides: Either I sync the phone with the PC or the PC with the phone, or a real sync where just the new emails get exchanged. (On the same time I'd also get this to work for my laptop but phone more important now since i got it heh)
I hope someone can help me.
you can't sync with EVERY email client..
it does sync with outlook/OE... I don't know about thunderbird tho. What you CAN try to do is change the settings to never delete emails from your server when downloaded to your computer and then sync so that when you delete them from your phone they'd be deleted from the server.
get my drift?
hmm well im used to thunderbird, but i dont have to keep using it necessarily. I'd change if it makes this whole syncing easier. Its been bugging me for a while that I didnt have my emails on my laptop but now i also need em on the phone.. so I wanna finally get this to work.
The method you described wouldnt work if I somehow download the emails to the phone first instead of the pc, it would work like u described, but if I'd rather work it in both ways, a real "sync".
With outlook you could do this yea?
Try using Gmail or Windows Live mail, its more compatabile with most wireless. Goto m.live.com or Gmail
well, if you use gmail you can easily keep it on both your computer and your phone and it would sync both ways.
Get a gmail account. Then forward all your email accounts to the gmail account. You can also set the gmail account to send out as one of the other accounts.
Setup the gmail account as an imap client in thunderbird or outlook. Create a folder under the inappropriate account named old emails or whatever. Move the emails stored in your local folders to the folder setup under the imap account (you can do it directly to the inbox if you prefer).
Setup gmail on your mobile device.
Say thanks.
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Cleaner Explanation.
1) Create a Gmail account at Gmail.com (or skip this step if you already have one).
2) Log into the web versions of each of your email accounts. Set the account to forward all emails to the new gmail account address (typically these settings are found under the settings or Options menu somewhere on the page). If you would like to continue to use these accounts you can either:
a) Give Gmail permission to send emails as all the accounts or one in particular. (Note once in the mobile apps, you cannot choose different sender addresses, only the default one. You can however change from each address on the web interface). b) Set a forwarder and then specify to leave a message on the server.
3) Setup the gmail account you created as an IMAP account (use IMAP not SMTP) in thunderbird or Outlook.
a) You can find the Imap settings for desktop clients here.
4) Once the initial sync is complete, simply drag and drop the emails from the old inbox to the Gmail account's inbox (listed in a tree menu under the IMAP.Gmail.Com listing.
5) You can now set up this email address as a SMTP or IMAP (IMAP keeps the emails on the server. This is a better idea in some cases as you have exact copies of emails on all devices you set them up as.
6) Say thanks
You can also manually do this for each email account you have, but that would take much longer and some companies do not allow or simply haven't moved to using IMAP yet (freaky right?).
Using the gmail way, you have all your emails from all your accounts plus the wonders of google. This is the easiest way to do it I can think of.
I hope my explanation is clean and clear.
thanks for the detailed explanation I guess I'll do it that way.
But the downside that you have to keep the mails on the server still stays this way. I'd really love the option to do a real sync how you expect a sync to be but I guess thats complicated or doesnt work?
I mean like.. when I'm at home .. I download the mails from my desktop pc over usb or wlan. Then I download new emails while I'm travelling or smth - and when I get back home I sync my desktop with the phone emails.
This must work somehow? I'd really hate to have to leave my emails on the server since I got bad experience with this.
I guess I'm just beeing paranoid - but I'm also perfectionist heh, so I'd love to try n get it going "the perfect way" - aka a real offline sync without usage of any server storage. (unless you count my desktop as a server..)
If you setup the system to use smtp on the phone it will dowbload the email, other than that i would suggest using a very good password.
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I need to find a way to save Emails on an Android phone, no Email client will do that so far as I can find?
My ISP is POP3 ONLY and I'm unwilling to change my email address so don't say use IMAP or Gmail.
I have no problem saving messages on my BB or on a WinMo phone, why can't Android's email client do that? BB has a 'save' option on the email menu which moves the mail to a Saved folder, WinMo allows me to create a Saved folder and move email to it which remains after it's deleted on the server, exactly the same as any email client on a PC so why does Android not allow anything similar?
NOTE: I've set my PC's email client to delete message from the server when they're downloaded, that's not going to change, there has to be a way for the Android device to do that or must I go back to WinMo or BlackBerry because of this one ridiculous failure of the Android OS?
Not sure i'm seeing the problem here. If you want to save your emails just don't delete them?
Same for me. I'd love to be able to make email folders so I can organize the accumulated emails. Having all emails in the inbox just doesn't work and is a pain in the ass.
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I think not possible you can keep them as long as you can
no itry to mush
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I think not possible
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I believe you're correct, I'm currently back on my BlackBerry as one solution to the problem.
you could try opening a gmail account, sync with your pop3 account and dont tell anyone your new e-mail address
What Robbie said. You can have emails forwarded to your GMail?
Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.
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Check out K-9 mail. The native email client that comes with android blows- it's bare bones and it's meant to be that way. The phone and the OS is designed to use gmail as your main email. Although a gmail account is my main email, i also have to use some other email account and the native android email app does't cut it for me. K-9 has an archive feature which will create a local folder and save a copy of that email. I am using IMAP and haven't setup anything with pop3, but give it a try and see if this app works for you.
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I have set up k9 and tried the archive but it just took the message of the server, how did you copy it instead?