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I have combed through these forums and haven't been able to find an answer yet, so please forgive me if I have missed something. So here goes:
If: a) I have updated to JB, and
b) I unlocked my device and
c) I successfully installed TWRP and
d) I managed to brick my device insomuch that ONLY APX mode is available to me when I connect to my PC, is there a solution unbrick my device at this time?
Currently booting my device will only display the first ASUS boot screen and never goes any further.
Many thanks to anybody who can provide some insight.
jeremiah.wells said:
I have combed through these forums and haven't been able to find an answer yet, so please forgive me if I have missed something. So here goes:
If: a) I have updated to JB, and
b) I unlocked my device and
c) I successfully installed TWRP and
d) I managed to brick my device insomuch that ONLY APX mode is available to me when I connect to my PC, is there a solution unbrick my device at this time?
Currently booting my device will only display the first ASUS boot screen and never goes any further.
Many thanks to anybody who can provide some insight.
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What have you tried in the meantime? Did you install NvFlash before the update to JB? You cannot get to recovery? If you cannot but do have fastboot available, either use TWRP or CWM (which can be flashed via fastboot as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926286 in case your recovery has been borked) and then flash a stock ROM from ASUS from here: http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/#download
Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129 as well.
MartyHulskemper said:
What have you tried in the meantime? Did you install NvFlash before the update to JB? You cannot get to recovery? If you cannot but do have fastboot available, either use TWRP or CWM (which can be flashed via fastboot as well: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1926286 in case your recovery has been borked) and then flash a stock ROM from ASUS from here: http://www.asus.com/Tablet/Transformer_Pad/ASUS_Transformer_Pad_Infinity_TF700T/#download
Take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129 as well.
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MartyHulskemper, many thanks for your prompt reply. To answer your questions:
1) I have tried (in vain, I now understand) to use nvflash (first using wheelie with a couple configurations) and to no avail
2) I did NOT install nvflash before, as I was excited about rooting and wasn't abreast of all the consequences of updating directly to JB and then unlock and then root with a new device. Unfortunately I had read a post on (another website) that nvflash wasn't working on the TF700T (which I presume was correct at the time it was written) only to now learn that it is.
A note -- fastboot is not available and the only way I can get the device visible to a computer is to put it in APX mode.
This is a classic case of me jumping the gun without fully understanding what's implied with the various updates and root solutions out there. Basically I followed a guide and used a set of files distributed on scottsroms that indeed rooted my device with the TWRP recovery. What I then attempted and (I think what ultimately did my device to its current state) was to attempt to flash CWM. After that flash I couldn't get either recovery to boot and so I attempted a data wipe and was going to reflash with CWM. After that data wipe is when I could not longer boot.
Sorry about the novel but I guess I'm vainly hoping this may trigger and idea from you or a future reader about what my options are. I will look at the link you suggested and go from there.
Again, thank-you for any assistance you may provide.
Can you get into recovery at all when you hold vol down and power? I had the same problem with my infinity when the .18 update came out, i had a freeze and a crash during normal use while the update was either downloading or changing something and when it restarted I couldnt do anything but go into APX. I never unlocked it (mainly because the asus tool wouldnt work) but I had to RMA to get it fixed. If you can at least get to the recovery menu you can try reinstalling the stock rom from an mSD. Otherwise you may have to do the same as me and RMA and hope that they dont tell you tough luck since its unlocked As far as I know the only way to recover the tablet when APX is your only option is with NVFlash, which I never installed because .30 was on my infinity when i bought it.
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I couldn't get either recovery to boot and so I attempted a data wipe
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That is the exactly step that bricked many TF700s here (search the forums). "Wipe data" with a broken recovery = bootloader won't do anything else than try to boot the broken recovery.
If you didn't create a blob for wheelie/nvflash before, your only option now is to send it to Asus for a costly "repair" (they claim they have to change the mainboard, I don't know why they don't just use nvflash).
_that said:
That is the exactly step that bricked many TF700s here (search the forums). "Wipe data" with a broken recovery = bootloader won't do anything else than try to boot the broken recovery.
If you didn't create a blob for wheelie/nvflash before, your only option now is to send it to Asus for a costly "repair" (they claim they have to change the mainboard, I don't know why they don't just use nvflash).
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Yes, with only APX available but no NvFlash backup, there's very little to no light at the end of the tunnel. I also wondered why the reports of RMA'd users mention a motherboard change, but I do remember something about unit-specific code being backed up with NvFlash. Although I'd think it strange, it might be that even ASUS cannot revive a bricked 700 without knowing that code, necessitating the new motherboard with a known code. This is only speculation, of course, but it's the only reason I could think of.
@OP: with no fastboot available, you will not be able to follow either Scott's guide or reflash a recovery. I sincerely feel for you, especially since it was enthusiasm that got you into trouble. I know the resultant feeling, and I hate it, for it quells said enthusiasm in the future and make you overly cautious. I wish you a speedy and effective RMA!
jeremiah.wells said:
MartyHulskemper, many thanks for your prompt reply. To answer your questions:
1) I have tried (in vain, I now understand) to use nvflash (first using wheelie with a couple configurations) and to no avail
2) I did NOT install nvflash before, as I was excited about rooting and wasn't abreast of all the consequences of updating directly to JB and then unlock and then root with a new device. Unfortunately I had read a post on (another website) that nvflash wasn't working on the TF700T (which I presume was correct at the time it was written) only to now learn that it is.
A note -- fastboot is not available and the only way I can get the device visible to a computer is to put it in APX mode.
This is a classic case of me jumping the gun without fully understanding what's implied with the various updates and root solutions out there. Basically I followed a guide and used a set of files distributed on scottsroms that indeed rooted my device with the TWRP recovery. What I then attempted and (I think what ultimately did my device to its current state) was to attempt to flash CWM. After that flash I couldn't get either recovery to boot and so I attempted a data wipe and was going to reflash with CWM. After that data wipe is when I could not longer boot.
Sorry about the novel but I guess I'm vainly hoping this may trigger and idea from you or a future reader about what my options are. I will look at the link you suggested and go from there.
Again, thank-you for any assistance you may provide.
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I really feel for you...just bricked a phone last week and it's an awful feeling, like you should have known better. Good luck.
Just out of curiosity, did you use Rom Manager to flash CWM recovery? That's the kiss of death for the TF700.
I feel for you too as this happened to me even without any type of modifications to my recovery or bootloader! As far as RMA and the motherboard change I am not sure whether they recovered my device without an actual change. When i got it back from RMA it was on the same firmware as before (not the most recent at the time) as well as retaining the same SN on my device. Since I got it back though I am unable to use the unlocker tool. I get that network error and a refusal from the asus unlock server that lots of people were having issues with a while back. I am in touch with Asus service now, but asus service is usually a long arduous process! I hope that they dont charge you for the replacement, but seeing as you unlocked its very possible if you have any sort of insurance from your credit card that may be a better route by trying to replace it as a lost or broken unit. My RMA was free (except shipping) but again, no unlock!
best of luck.
MartyHulskemper said:
it might be that even ASUS cannot revive a bricked 700 without knowing that code, necessitating the new motherboard with a known code. This is only speculation, of course, but it's the only reason I could think of.
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They must know the device key, because the unlocking process requires it. However it is plausible that service centers have no access to this information.
It's somehow depressing that not knowing 128 secret bits takes away control over our own devices.
_that said:
They must know the device key, because the unlocking process requires it. However it is plausible that service centers have no access to this information.
It's somehow depressing that not knowing 128 secret bits takes away control over our own devices.
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In cases like this, I always hope you get a motivated technician that actually hunts down your serial from that database and helps you out. Guess I'm a bit naive in that regard.
Yeah, those 16 bytes keeping the door shut are a major bummer, as is the fact that NvFlash was not pre-installed anyway...
okantomi said:
I really feel for you...just bricked a phone last week and it's an awful feeling, like you should have known better. Good luck.
Just out of curiosity, did you use Rom Manager to flash CWM recovery? That's the kiss of death for the TF700.
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To answer your curiosity, NO... I did not install or use Rom Manager in any way to get to this state.
Got a question. Mine is rooted but locked, i attempted to install TWRP before unlocking. I can still boot it up but i cant get into recovery. Can i unlock it without a working recovery and just reinstall TWRP? what are my options? Any help would be great.
edit: nevermind, i think i found the answer...
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I've never seen a two day span where I've seen this many near bricks and recovery problems. Its starting to look like the TF300 fiasco. Did CWM screw something up recently or are all these user problems unrelated and coincidental?
elfaure said:
I've never seen a two day span where I've seen this many near bricks and recovery problems. Its starting to look like the TF300 fiasco. Did CWM screw something up recently or are all these user problems unrelated and coincidental?
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It is mostly user problems, but CWM can brick your device by wiping the wrong partition. TWRP has been patched and wont do this. AKA why TWRP is recommended, rather than CWM, which is a good recovery, but for our device it can cause issues. And if you read, 99% of the bricks are recovered. So the point of the bricks is nothing, it is if we can recover them or not, to which most are, which is a wonderful thing. 10 TF300s a day were bricking, this is not occurring with the TF700, so there is no fiasco happening here .
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
Most people who brick their device don't read enough. And then, when they come here with their problem, they don't write enough.
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Most people who brick their device don't read enough. And then, when they come here with their problem, they don't write enough.
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As a newbie, I may suggest that the Tylorw1 remarks could be announced on the http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30223822#post30223822 topic (regarding that it is advised to use TWRP until CWM will be patched). Because I parsed all this topics and others before starting to flash my TF700 and never seen that recommandations and the other like "do not use software launch of recovery". Those information, you can only get them on the topic you look at once you have had an issue.
I was not totally a newbie with switching to developer mode / rooting / flashing, since I began doing this on my HTC magic, continued with an HTC desire HD, then a galaxy note. Never got those hard troubles (once I had a fear, but has been able to unlock it alone with my magic).
At last, that's very good you're here to help us after our mistakes!
The problem is that there are a lot of (stupid) people who can't bloody read.
florck said:
At last, that's very good you're here to help us after our mistakes!
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I must be honest: I fear the day _that transitions to another device. The work he put in in your case is nothing short of amazing (to me). We all have our perks and qualities, but... pfff...
On-topic: it does seem like we are having more bricks and recovery/boot problems lately. Is that a market thing? Has the 700 gone done in price, thus reaching a greater user base? (Not to my knowledge.) Are we seeing more inexperienced users now than we did at first? (That might be a likely cause.)
_that said:
Most people who brick their device don't read enough. And then, when they come here with their problem, they don't write enough.
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Well put. We have two ears and two eyes and two hands but only one mouth. Intelligent people tend to use their senses in those proportions. Only after they have mastered this can they attempt to use their brains.
MartyHulskemper said:
I must be honest: I fear the day _that transitions to another device. The work he put in in your case is nothing short of amazing (to me). We all have our perks and qualities, but... pfff...
On-topic: it does seem like we are having more bricks and recovery/boot problems lately. Is that a market thing? Has the 700 gone done in price, thus reaching a greater user base? (Not to my knowledge.) Are we seeing more inexperienced users now than we did at first? (That might be a likely cause.)
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I'm going to be the first to second @florck 's suggestion to top-sticky a warning about CWM with a statement that it could wipe the wrong partition and leave the user SOL (maybe not in those exact words) and for XDA to point a suggestion towards using TWRP (touch) instead as a safe alternative. At least until CWM patches this bug. This would be paramount for new users to read. I found it during my rooting research but I agree that its fairly buried.
[Edit] One thing to note is he was not using an "old" CWM, in fact it was a future developer version not even released yet?? So the masses haven't even seen this version yet. Someone should inform CWM about this before they release it, it if came from them broken. I don't think I'll ever be using their recovery after seeing what can happen.
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Quote @Pretoriano80 from other thread: "CWM 6.0.5.3?The latest official version is 6.0.3.0 iirc. AFAIK this kind of brick occur when using an" old" recovery (both CWM and TWRP) with the new bootloader and is triggered when the Wipe Data option it's used."
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I'm also interested in learning how his cryptographic key got messed up/deleted. I've been wondering if this could be used for a bootloader exploit to enable NVflash?
Lucky for @florck to have @_that for sure as we all are, but also lucky for him he wasn't that much of an inexperienced user that he couldn't at least access a terminal and type some commands, run an adb shell, and follow instructions. He seemed to be a pretty good student but he should have read more I agree.
I find there are three types of people. Dumb people who never learn from their mistakes, smart people who do learn from their mistakes, and then there's the wise people who learn from *other peoples* mistakes.
For me as a fairly inexperienced user getting to ride the roller coaster and see the guts of a near brick was fascinating to say the least. Its good to know about these things before you need to. Its great to know @_that if you don't. His knowledge and troubleshooting prowess is phenomenal. Rare breed indeed. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't have a mother and was beamed down.
Guys, i think you are mixing stuff here, let me explain.
1)The "wipe data/media" option in CWM
This bug can lead to a corrupted partition but it's easy to recover by installing the Stock Firmware from MicroSD with CWM recovery (yes CWM install option will still work because the staging partition is not corrupted). After the install process is complete and the tablet rebooted once you can use the Wipe Data option from the Bootloader menu, that procedure will also fix your corrupted data/media partition.
So as you can see no ADB knowledge or other skills are required in order to recover your device.
2) Using and "old" recovery version with an incompatible bootloader (both CWM and TWRP recovery)
Using the Wipe Data option from the Bootloader menu under this circumstances could lead to a bootloop to Recovery and if you don't have good ADB knowledge/skills (or if _that it's not around ) you are doomed. Anyway it seems that as long as you still have ADB you can recover from this too.
Also some users reported a hard brick under this circumstances (bootloader signature mismatch error) but there wasn't much background info from the users on the matter.
ONLY way to recover from this issue is by sending the device back to Asus and pay for repairs.
3) Regarding the missing token my understanding is that a wrong offset was used so i presume that using the correct offset you will find that the token is still there.
And even if someone could remove the token it would still be impossible to trick Asus because they already have your device's serial number on their server.
P. S: I already planned to update the AIO thread with the latest stuff /info but i've just got recovered from a knee surgery so i'm not in the mood yet.
Using
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Thanks for the very clear play-by-play problem descriptions and future resolutions of what recently happened with the one user's near brick who then witnessed the miracle of _that in action. It'll be good for CWM users if it comes up again so they can self-resolve their problem with your instructions.
Hi everyone,
So lets say that the sun would rise from the west tomorrow and Asus/Nvidia released an update for NVFlash compatible with 4.1 and 4.2. Would people including myself who have a bricked tf300t with nonfunctional "fastboot flash" be able to save the tablet or are we simply screwed? (changing motherboard is not worth it in my opinion) Could some body with enough knowledge be kind and explain?
By the way, if you haven't signed the NVFlash petition yet. Do a favor and do it now! Thanks.
I think you can only install nvflash on not-yet bricked devices!
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vahid_shirvani said:
Hi everyone,
So lets say that the sun would rise from the west tomorrow and Asus/Nvidia released an update for NVFlash compatible with 4.1 and 4.2. Would people including myself who have a bricked tf300t with nonfunctional "fastboot flash" be able to save the tablet or are we simply screwed? (changing motherboard is not worth it in my opinion) Could some body with enough knowledge be kind and explain?
By the way, if you haven't signed the NVFlash petition yet. Do a favor and do it now! Thanks.
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1. It will only work on UNLOCKED devices
2. It requires access to Fastboot to prepare device first time
3. It won't work on fully bricked devices (See 2.)
from http://androidroot.mobi
http://androidroot.mobi/nvflash-for-tegra3-transformer-tf300t/
tobdaryl said:
1. It will only work on UNLOCKED devices
2. It requires access to Fastboot to prepare device first time
3. It won't work on fully bricked devices (See 2.)
from http://androidroot.mobi
http://androidroot.mobi/nvflash-for-tegra3-transformer-tf300t/
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I'm not sure why that has to be the case. On the Iconia A500 and the TF101, getting into apx mode with the code allows NVflash to wipe the NAND clean, rewrite the partition table and then rewrite the bootloader. Which retros you back to the state antebellum, which would allow reinstallment of a rom of choice after. This, at least theoretically. I make no pretense at being an expert at it, but perhaps android mobi's is not the only possible way. If truth be told, instructions by mobi's are about as clear as mud for debutants. If enough devils get involved, we may even have an automated device not unlike the APX Flash Tool or BadSector for the A500. Again, I could be missing some critical elements big time. Please enlighten us if you could, tobdaryl. Many thanks.
graphdarnell said:
I'm not sure why that has to be the case. On the Iconia A500 and the TF101, getting into apx mode with the code allows NVflash to wipe the NAND clean, rewrite the partition table and then rewrite the bootloader. Which retros you back to the state antebellum, which would allow reinstallment of a rom of choice after. This, at least theoretically. I make no pretense at being an expert at it, but perhaps android mobi's is not the only possible way. If truth be told, instructions by mobi's are about as clear as mud for debutants. If enough devils get involved, we may even have an automated device not unlike the APX Flash Tool or BadSector for the A500. Again, I could be missing some critical elements big time. Please enlighten us if you could, tobdaryl. Many thanks.
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Once nvflash is installed what you present is correct (at least that is my understanding - I have only done a simple restore for testing purposes). Look at my signature for a guide to restore with nvflash. The second method presented is what you suggest for the tf101.
The situation to install is different because Asus has locked the tablet to exclude installing nvflash.
I am in the dark as you are. I only know what I can and can't do on my tablet. Otherwise I can pass information provided by others.
My reference is the Nook Tablet. I can delete every partition and rebuild the drive from a blank state this is possible because the tablet can boot from an sdcard.
I had a pm request to provide an nvflash installation guide. I complied but did not present it on xda. The member making the request was pleased and successfully used it to install nvflash. I have since used it to install nvflash on one tablet. Honestly my guide is no better than the guide provided, just a different presentation and can be done by anyone who wishes go step by step through the guide already presented. Just copy and paste the info and do some minor rewording.
I wish I could truly help but I honestly can't. I have come to accept some related info as fact since I have not been able to prove otherwise and have grown tired while chasing dead ends. I don't have the expertise, experience, or hardware to move forward.
Hi Everyone,
Living in Japan, we have no official channel to purchase a OnePlus handset here.
Really wanted to get a OnePlus 7 Pro as I felt it is the best model on the market as of today.
Knowing that, I got mine on Amazon Japan from a HK online shop which had very good reputation.
Now, the problem is these phones always come already opened as they say they need to confirm operation before sending it.
I have been reading news and article about this where we see more third party companies flash their roms with malware/ransomeware already built in...
In these situation, the best way to clean the phone is to do a full re-install of the OS.
I did review a bunch of article on XDA and it seems that now, due to the A/B partition setup, we can't just use official OnePlus image to load from the fastboot easily.
We have to rely on community provided too and stock rom to be able to do so....
When I raised the question to OnePlus and Oneplus forums, they mentioned to me that installed the updated like here (Page: support.oneplus.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4312/~/oxygen-os-for-oneplus-7-pro)would do the trick using the local update function.
What I was directed to do is use the recovery boot to delete system settings/cache and everything data user and then, run the local update. Doing so, that would do it while not using community tools.
Here are my questions and which I would hope to get your experience:
1 Is the process I did really does use a brand new clean OS and do not rely/integrate part of the OS that came with the handset originally (that was the target).
2 Is there a way for me using OnePlus only provided tools and image to fully delete the phone and install the OS (maybe I am thinking this too much like a PC which I have more experience with...)
3 The OS looks fine and no strange apps shows up at all but how can I be sure nothing dodgy is running? Is there tools I could use to confirm this?
Sorry if I sound paranoid. Ideally, I understand the best thing to do was to buy directly from Oneplus and work a way to have it shipped to Japan but thought it would be interesting for me to learn more about android.
With previous Oneplus, it was easier as they were provided this type of official file for recovery but they stopped...
Thank you again for your time and hopping to learn more about how new android setup works.
Is the bootloader locked? Is Widevine (Netflix HD) certification still there? You can check these things to see if the phone has been tampered with.
brissoukun said:
Hi Everyone,
When I raised the question to OnePlus and Oneplus forums, they mentioned to me that installed the updated like here (Page: support.oneplus.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4312/~/oxygen-os-for-oneplus-7-pro)would do the trick using the local update function.
What I was directed to do is use the recovery boot to delete system settings/cache and everything data user and then, run the local update. Doing so, that would do it while not using community tools.
Here are my questions and which I would hope to get your experience:
1 Is the process I did really does use a brand new clean OS and do not rely/integrate part of the OS that came with the handset originally (that was the target).
2 Is there a way for me using OnePlus only provided tools and image to fully delete the phone and install the OS (maybe I am thinking this too much like a PC which I have more experience with...)
3 The OS looks fine and no strange apps shows up at all but how can I be sure nothing dodgy is running? Is there tools I could use to confirm this?
Thank you again for your time and hopping to learn more about how new android setup works.
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Good questions. Before you start, check the model number of your device through Settings > About. I'm assuming it's the international/global/unlocked version (GM1917).
With regard to question 1, a full build downloaded from the link you provided should contain every part of the OS, and flashing it through local update should overwrite anything that was there before. Before flashing, I would perform a full data wipe through recovery like you mentioned.
Q2: There is an MSM tool that will completely flash a system image for the OP7 Pro. I don't think they're generally intended for public use but they always get leaked anyways. They write an image (in the case of OnePlus, a .ops file) to the phone using a PC and USB connection. Here is a link to a thread which contains the MSM tool:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-7-pro/how-to/guide-mega-unbrick-guide-hard-bricked-t3934659
Download the tool for the model of your phone (probably the international, firmware GM21AA), and extract its contents into a directory. In order for the tool to work, you need the OnePlus USB drivers installed on your PC. Plug the phone into your PC with it on, and enable USB file transfer. Open File Explorer and you should see a drive labeled "OnePlus drivers" or similar. Open it and run the driver setup executable file. You'll also need ADB to make your phone reboot into a mode that will allow the tool to perform its tasks. Here is a guide to installing ADB:
https://www.xda-developers.com/what-is-adb/
Once you've set that up, make sure the phone is plugged into the PC and the MSM tool is open. Make the phone boot into edl mode by typing
Code:
adb reboot edl
and once it says Connected next to a COM port in the tool, press start. Don't interrupt the process until it completes the download and the status message turns green. The phone should automatically reboot. This method is arguably more risky than using the local upgrade option, so do it at your own risk.
Q3: Make sure that OEM unlocking is turned off in developer settings and that the bootloader is locked (if the bootloader is unlocked, you'll see a yellow warning message after you power on the device from a power off state). Without an unlocked bootloader it would be pretty difficult to make any deep modifications to the device.
Hi @Zocker1304 and @TManchu,
Please let me thank you very much first for your kind and detailed reply, this is really welcome.
@Zocker1304:
I checked using the ADB/Fastboot connection that indeed, the Bootloader is locked so, that looks good.
Also installed (using a separate Google account) DRM Info app to confirm that the Widevine is properly installed and at L1 level which indeed again, looks good.
@TManchu
Thank you again for your very detailed reply! This was exactly what I needed as information.
I did already exactly as mentioned for the #1 so, it looks I should be good now with a proper rom from OnePlus (and did a full wipe in the Recovery boot mode)
For #2, I think I will skip that since as you rightly said, with #1, it should be fine so, prefer to keep with the recommended step.
For #3, we are covering what Zocker1304 mentioned too and I could confirm it.
My only concern about #3 was that you can actually relock the bootloader but (and please correct me If I am wrong), you can only do so if you are using stock OnePlus images (to date...seems like dev teams are working to have this changed? Bootloader locked with custom firmware?) which then means the image is safe.
I suppose the last item was my only open query for your thoughts but so far, the handset looks fine.
Thanks to you and the community, I have learned about the A/B partition scheme, msm tool, Fastboot/Recovery mode and Bootloader and ADB tools.
It is always good to learn more about the tech we use (especially phones, we have so many sensitive information stored into them today).
Not being careful could potentially means quite a lot of troubles down the road with Ransomeware/data leak tools.
Of course again, I could have simply purchased a JP phone from a brick and mortar shop next to my place and be fine with it. :silly:
brissoukun said:
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For #3, we are covering what Zocker1304 mentioned too and I could confirm it.
My only concern about #3 was that you can actually relock the bootloader but (and please correct me If I am wrong), you can only do so if you are using stock OnePlus images (to date...seems like dev teams are working to have this changed? Bootloader locked with custom firmware?) which then means the image is safe.
I suppose the last item was my only open query for your thoughts but so far, the handset looks fine.
Thanks to you and the community, I have learned about the A/B partition scheme, msm tool, Fastboot/Recovery mode and Bootloader and ADB tools.
It is always good to learn more about the tech we use (especially phones, we have so many sensitive information stored into them today).
Not being careful could potentially means quite a lot of troubles down the road with Ransomeware/data leak tools.
Of course again, I could have simply purchased a JP phone from a brick and mortar shop next to my place and be fine with it. :silly:
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No problem! I’ve just done some reading and from what I understand, re-locking the bootloader on anything other than a completely stock ROM will result in a bricked phone. I believe this is due to the way Android handles data encryption. If what you’ve heard is true, being able to lock your bootloader on a custom ROM would be great for device security. However, should something go wrong with the ROM having a locked bootloader might make it more difficult to fix.
I know that there are ways to sign system and boot images so that you can lock the bootloader with them installed, but I think that would still show a warning though I'm not sure.
Anyways, if all the build dates and numbers in the system info are correct, the firmware should be stock and as long as the bootloader is locked too, I don't believe you can tamper with that.
Hi Gents,
Thank you very much for the answer to the thread and much appreciated.
Apologies for not getting back to you all earlier as yesterday was family day...haha!
Well, since things looked good on the OS and the build, I went ahead and started to use the phone properly setting up my accounts. It did give me some incentive to get all my sensitive accounts setup with 2FA so that in case I get hacked with my passwords in the future...they would still need the 2fa (using Google Authenticator).
I did check also all system apps/running process and didn't see anything shady.
Just for reference, here were the type of articles I was refering too for the OS being plagued with malware even out of the box:
Page_theverge.com/2019/6/6/18655755/google-android-malware-triada-ota-rom-ads-spam-oem (sorry gents, new account, cannot put links yet)
However here, it seems it is due to lax review from the maker to third party tools which were including malware...
To have the same level on the oneplus I bought from the HK shop, they would have needed access to OnePlus Dev team to inject the malware in official image (knowing anyway I have re-installed a new image from the local update).
Otherwise, I was reading on the web about the fact to relock the bootloader with a custom roam and there seems to have a lot of messages but not concrete steps. It seems it depends a lot on phone model and brand.
When you are checking
Page_gizmochina.com/2019/06/10/relock-bootloader-oneplus-7-pro/
This is where you can read at the end:
"The above method only works if OnePlus 7 Pro is running on stock recovery and stock firmware. The ability to relock devices running custom recovery is expected in the next few weeks. "
That was published last month so, not sure if they got this to work on the OnePlus 7 pro yet.
So that's it, I am now using my new device which looks to work great and hopefully, won't get any bugs down the road.
I appreciate you taking the time to get back to me and will continue to learn about android.:good:
Hi all,
My op6 is stuck, unable to reboot normally with the famous Qualcomm Crashdump mode message.
The phone has the bootloader unlocked, with TWRP recovery.
1 day ago I could access the recovery even reboot with the power+volume buttons, but it got to a point where it crashes all the time, unable to do anything.
Currently is only able to enter fastboot mode.
I have heard about the MSMDownload Tool.
- Does this tool keep the files/data in the internal memory?
For me the most important thing is to be able to recover the data.
The qualcom dumpcrash mode returns several different messages like:
- stack-protector kernel stack is corrupted in:--schedule*0xB90/OXOd0 (not exact numbers)
- fatal exceptinforece_signalinject.isra.8
Is there any chance of trying something?
I am extremely anxious and worried about the situation
Please help.
Ganapatya said:
Hi all,
My op6 is stuck, unable to reboot normally with the famous Qualcomm Crashdump mode message.
The phone has the bootloader unlocked, with TWRP recovery.
1 day ago I could access the recovery even reboot with the power+volume buttons, but it got to a point where it crashes all the time, unable to do anything.
Currently is only able to enter fastboot mode.
I have heard about the MSMDownload Tool.
- Does this tool keep the files/data in the internal memory?
For me the most important thing is to be able to recover the data.
The qualcom dumpcrash mode returns several different messages like:
- stack-protector kernel stack is corrupted in:--schedule*0xB90/OXOd0 (not exact numbers)
- fatal exceptinforece_signalinject.isra.8
Is there any chance of trying something?
I am extremely anxious and worried about the situation
Please help.
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to start: it's good thing that you can get into fastboot mode. From there you should be able to do a complete re-install of your device, e.g. using the official LineageOS instructions.
Now to your situation: unfortunately you don't write too much about it like, is your phone running stock OOS or some custom ROM? If it's a custom ROM I'd say you open a topic in the according thread. Then: how much do you know about flashing recoveries, ROMs etc.
Regarding your data: in your current situation it may be extremely difficult if not impossible to secure any personal data now. How I understand it you cannot access the crucial partitions from the bootloader, at least I never heard of methods to get there. Although, people more knowledgeable than me may know of ways. So I do hope you are having recent backups at hand, on your PC or where-ever.
In that case I would start all over (and that's how I got out of a similar situation several months ago): flash recovery, flash latest OOS to both slots, factory reset / wipe everything (to remove any encrypted data you won't be able to access anyways), flash you ROM of choice incl. other part like GAPPS, if needed, do basic setup and then finally try to recover anything that is in you backups.
I wish you a lot of patience and good luck, you'll need it, I'm afraid.
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to start: it's good thing that you can get into fastboot mode. From there you should be able to do a complete re-install of your device, e.g. using the official LineageOS instructions.
Now to your situation: unfortunately you don't write too much about it like, is your phone running stock OOS or some custom ROM? If it's a custom ROM I'd say you open a topic in the according thread. Then: how much do you know about flashing recoveries, ROMs etc.
Regarding your data: in your current situation it may be extremely difficult if not impossible to secure any personal data now. How I understand it you cannot access the crucial partitions from the bootloader, at least I never heard of methods to get there. Although, people more knowledgeable than me may know of ways. So I do hope you are having recent backups at hand, on your PC or where-ever.
In that case I would start all over (and that's how I got out of a similar situation several months ago): flash recovery, flash latest OOS to both slots, factory reset / wipe everything (to remove any encrypted data you won't be able to access anyways), flash you ROM of choice incl. other part like GAPPS, if needed, do basic setup and then finally try to recover anything that is in you backups.
I wish you a lot of patience and good luck, you'll need it, I'm afraid.
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Thank you for your reply.
is your phone running stock OOS or some custom ROM?
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Stock OOS, android 10, last release.
Then: how much do you know about flashing recoveries, ROMs etc.
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I have basic experience installing customs roms, rooting, twrp, unlock fastboot...following tutorials, of course.
Regarding your data: in your current situation it may be extremely difficult if not impossible to secure any personal data now. How I understand it you cannot access the crucial partitions from the bootloader, at least I never heard of methods to get there. Although, people more knowledgeable than me may know of ways. So I do hope you are having recent backups at hand, on your PC or where-ever.
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here someone says that in theory it would be possible if you have the usb debugging enable, but silly me I had it open but I deactivated it I think, so I'm not sure if I have access or not.
OnePlus 6 Stuck At "Qualcomm Crashdump" Screen All A Sudden | Data Retrieval Critical
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adb devices
mkdir "C:\RECOVERED_DATA"
adb pull /sdcard C:\RECOVERED_DATA
and then finally try to recover anything that is in you backups.
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but if I do all that flashing process any backups that are in the internal memory will be erased, right?
I had photos, files, whatsapp chat history, documents...etc and they were all in the internal memory. It is not a great loss but it is important for me to be able to recover it.
in your current situation it may be extremely difficult if not impossible to secure any personal data now
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for me it is more important to recover the files than to recover the phone. your words are discouraging
I have read other posts and maybe being able to install on top (dirty install) the same rom I have, would leave the system as it, is being able to access my files. Not even installing the whole rom but extracting the boot image from the rom and then installing it. but I don't know if I can install a rom or boot image from fastboot, or if I need to have a working TWRP first.
It is said here:
- https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...over-without-data-loss.4080725/#post-82257413
- https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...over-without-data-loss.4080725/#post-82261087
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your words are discouraging
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of course that is not my intention. I just try to be realistic
As I wrote in my post, my knowledge is quite basic. I know what I read , and what I experienced with my different devices. So again: you may find instructions and real-life stories showing you ways out of there.
My experience is that you cannot connect your OP6 phone to your PC via ADB while in bootloader / fastboot mode.
a) It's either one or the other: bootloader <=> fastboot or recovery / system <=> adb. Other devices may have different options but we're not talking about Samsung but about OP.
b) I did some additional research last night but I couldn't find a single source talking about *read* access to user data from fastboot. All you can do there is flash i.e. overwrite partitions
c) keep in mind that most probably your personal data are encrypted. So even if you find a way to access your personal data from bootloader / fastboot you may not be able to read it
d) I never used MSMtool, never had to. But I did some more research about it. It looks as if you could re-flash stock ROM using that tool but to the cost of wiping everything. At least that is what the tutorials I found are saying
That said I'd say you don't have much to lose and can go trying out some things.
From my experience the qualcomm crashdump error can have it's source in a malfunctioning recovery solution; I had that when flashing a wrong TWRP version that would not be in harmony with the previously flashed OOS firmware.
From what I read our devices don't have a separate recovery partition, instead it somehow lives somewhere/somehow in the boot partition (experts: please don't crucify me if that is wrong ). So if that is the case one idea would be to extract the boot image from the stock ROM image then flash that to /boot/ from fastboot. Don't know whether that really works and helps, but in theory you would have a default boot partition and kernel *without* a conflicting recovery solution.
In case you're successful you may be able to boot into system and make backups of everything that's valuable to you.
Again: this is extremely wild guessing here, and you'll have to read in a bit on how to properly extract parts of the ROM image.
I also would *strongly* recommend that you continue asking for help in a more technical thread like the LOS19.1 one or Funk Wizard's thread about unlocking and flashing our OP6.
I wish you all luck you need!
I think your best bet it a HW solution, get someone to:
1. replace the modem IC, it's the possible cause of the qualcomm crash
2. solder a direct connection to the internal memory so you can recover your data