ive read conflicting reports on this so i thought it best to ask those who have them, is there a sim card slot in these things and if yes are they gsm compatible. my desire z is slowly dying and i need something to move on to, importing one of these seems the best option at the mo (if not itll probably be a droid 4, also imported, why dont they release qwertys here?)
There is no SIM slot, but you can perform a hardware mod to add one.
While there is no user accessible sim card slot there is a sim card chip in the phone. The phone should be global enabled but not sure as to sprints policy or what networks you can use. And yes there is a hardware mod that can be preformed to jump in a sim card of the users preference but I feel it's rather invasive and hackish.
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is the thunderbolt the same as older SIM card phones? where if a phone is stolen it cannot be deactivated? i understand that in order to activate a SIM card you have to also supply the esn number of the phone it will be paired with. but down the line when there are more LTE phones out, if someone had an activated SIM card, could they place it into a stolen phone to use it? or is there a way to blacklist a phone even if it uses a SIM card?
Are you saying that you have a stolen phone or is this just for knowing?
Take this with a grain of salt but the Verizon reps told me the SIM cards are not swappable with the LTE network. I've exchanged my phone 3 times now and they have to give a new SIM each time. They shred the old SIM.
They lied to you. I have exchanged phones never changing the sim.
Not for me 2 phones same sim, no issues here.
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Perhaps all of the LTE SIM cards are the same, and the only authorization is done through the ESN code like it always has been. That way, if someone loses their SIM card (how?) it wouldn't be a big deal, and if they lose their phone, it could still be given a bad ESN and not let anyone else register it.
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Take this with a grain of salt but the Verizon reps told me the SIM cards are not swappable with the LTE network. I've exchanged my phone 3 times now and they have to give a new SIM each time. They shred the old SIM.
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I'm also on my 3rd Thunderbolt and still have the same SIM card I got on launch day.
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Are you saying that you have a stolen phone or is this just for knowing?
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i was just wondering how it worked in comparison to the SIM card on other networks i had used in the past. when i was with T-mo i know they couldnt lock down a phone like verizon can since they where on SIM cards. so was just wondering if that was the case for our phones now that we have SIM cards?
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Perhaps all of the LTE SIM cards are the same, and the only authorization is done through the ESN code like it always has been. That way, if someone loses their SIM card (how?) it wouldn't be a big deal, and if they lose their phone, it could still be given a bad ESN and not let anyone else register it.
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yes, im wondering if this is the case? really im just curious if i lose my phone or it gets stolen. is it a paper weight once i report it? or is it up for sale to anyone with an activated SIM card?
3 phones same SIM for me...
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Just my two cents here. There is definitely an place in the Phone Identity portion of the settings menu that states the SIM Card ID, IMEI, and MEID. It seems to me that this would make it so you can still swap devices without extra hassle, but VZW should still be able to blacklist phones reported stolen via the MEID. I could be wrong, this just seems to be the case to me.
The sim card activates the phone, upon activating it communicates with verizon database. Pure and simple verizon can and will track the MEID and if the phone is stolen or in non pay table then it won't activate. Try it out, then your tbolt off and turn it back on. The first 10 seconds upon boot you won't have signal or data. Then it comes on. It's like the same as a prl update *228. Anyways I'm getting off track here's the deal. Your phone has a seperate entity from your sim card. Both need to be clear to activate.
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They lied to you. I have exchanged phones never changing the sim.
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This is true. If you have the Thunderbolt and the Charge or any other VZW 4G LTE phone you are able to swap the sim back and forth.
you only have to replace the sim card if you cahnge your number or activate the device he sim can only be used with 1 phone number. The serial number of the sim card and the ESN of the phone both must match in the VZW system or it will not connect to the towers. I have to replace them all the time. So no you could not use a lost,stolen, or non payment phone on the network, phone still essentially a paper weight or spare parts.
I was under the impression that the sim was only applicable to LTE-level functions. The phone's main functionality is still mostly CDMA based and those functions can still be shut down if the phone is stolen. To my understanding, simply inserting the sim card into the tbolt does not just activate and associate the phone to your account. There's still an operator you have to call, right? With Tmo and att, inserting a sim card activated the phone without calling someone or going into a store.
The SIM is a RUIM which eliminates the need for an ESN swap the the best of my knowledge. I started with a LG VL600 air card and then got a thunderbolt. I was issued a new card at that time but I can swap between devices and it works without a problem. Once June 15th I fully expect this to stop working.
I just wanted to put this information out for the masses. Today I switched phones on my account to a non 4G phone to do some work on it when switching back to my TB the system gave me an error saying my sim card could not activate and to call Verizon. Calling Verizon did not help I was told that the sim card number was placed in retirement and could not be reactivated. I was told when I purchased the phone that the sim card was attached to a phone number that you would keep the card with each 4G device you have. I now have to get a new card. So if you are thinking about making any changes on your line with your 4G phone you might not want to. I hope this is not going to be an ongoing problem with Verizon as I move phones around a lot on my line.
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I too had a similar issue. I had a number on a 3G phone that I wanted to move to a 4G phone. They had to do it in two steps as once they added a number to a sim card the only way to change it was to swap it to another sim card and retire the old one.
I was told it's a software bug in the Verizon system, and they are working on fixing it. Since Verizon doesn't charge for sim cards right now you should be able to transfer to a new sim card at no cost.
this is how all SIM cards are for all carriers. Once deactivated, they cannot be reactivated
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this is how all SIM cards are for all carriers. Once deactivated, they cannot be reactivated
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What he said.
Plus: its a new network tech. The only lte network in existence. I'm sure the process will become more streamlined.
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I have a T-Mobile sensation,S-off, xboarders CM7 rom... located in AZ. I do not have another sim card for another carrier, I obtained the unlock code from the terminal emulator method. I "THOUGHT" unlocking the sim card was enabling my current sim card/sensation for t-mobile, to work on other carriers.
However I obviously learned that the only way to enter the code was to insert a sim card from a different carrier, and enter the code. That being said, if I insert another sim card in my phone "like a friend with AT&T", will it affect his sim card at all? And when I put my sim card back in, will I be able to use different networks? Will it lock my sim card out of my phone or vise versa? I have been researching for a while now and I havent found too much defining what im looking for. Any one who can enlighten me would be appreciated!
all unlocking your phone does, is allows it to use different sim cards to run on different networks.
your available networks are controlled by your sim card, and any unlocking won't change that. No it won't effect your friend's att sim card, and not it won't hcange anything currently. However, if you were to get a different carrier that uses sim cards, then you could freely insert that sim card and then use their network with their sim card, provided you have the available frequencies supported (i.e. 3g/4g).
That makes sense. So people who have their phones sim unlocked usually sell the phone or have another sim card for a different network, which means they pay for two data plans? Well I feel like I wasted my time, I sure am glad I didnt pay to get my unlock code. On the bright side, the research I did find mentioned a higher resale value for the phone. However I dont see myself selling my sensation ANYTIME soon !
I appreciate the input, and thank you for your time sir!
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That makes sense. So people who have their phones sim unlocked usually sell the phone or have another sim card for a different network, which means they pay for two data plans? Well I feel like I wasted my time, I sure am glad I didnt pay to get my unlock code. On the bright side, the research I did find mentioned a higher resale value for the phone. However I dont see myself selling my sensation ANYTIME soon !
I appreciate the input, and thank you for your time sir!
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Its a wasted of time when you are on a contract and do not planned to sell the phone, but if you travel inside or outside the country is a DAMN good advantage cus you just change or get a local SIM and you dont need to buy a new phone.. you see?
And also like you said "higher resale value for the phone"
Wondering if anyone can help, im using team Eos European 3g rom zoom. now i tried 1 sim card and the 3g works perfectly but when i try my other sim, i enter the pin code on screen , it accepts it, then immediately says "Sim card removed, the mobile network will be unavailable until you restart...." .
The sim card definitely isnt broken because it works in my phone and 3g modem on my pc. I've tried restarting the xoom with Wifi off and no luck.
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Wondering if anyone can help, im using team Eos European 3g rom zoom. now i tried 1 sim card and the 3g works perfectly but when i try my other sim, i enter the pin code on screen , it accepts it, then immediately says "Sim card removed, the mobile network will be unavailable until you restart...." .
The sim card definitely isnt broken because it works in my phone and 3g modem on my pc. I've tried restarting the xoom with Wifi off and no luck.
Thanks
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how old is that "other" sim card? Reason I'm asking is that sim cards use different voltages and old cards tend to cause problems in modern devices.
Around here, providers usually swap sims for free if you say that you've got a problem with one, so I'd go for an exchange if your sim is older that maybe two years...
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how old is that "other" sim card? Reason I'm asking is that sim cards use different voltages and old cards tend to cause problems in modern devices.
Around here, providers usually swap sims for free if you say that you've got a problem with one, so I'd go for an exchange if your sim is older that maybe two years...
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Its actually brand new, got it on the weekend. It works perfectly everywhere else. I think i'll go to the provider anyway today and see if i can try a sim swap.
This really is baffling me now. I went back to the providers store and tried a different one of their sim cards and it doesnt work either. I just cant understand why my xoom can read certain providers sim cards and not others? (Its definitely not network locked). Could it possibly be the type of sim card (as in a 32k vs 64k etc)?
Any help would be greatly appreciated
I visited my sister in Germany and she gave me a Vodafone branded Xoom2 UMTS (MZ616). I was able to flash it with ICS and everything works great.
I got a new sim card from ATT (I live in ghe US)and put it into the tablet. This is were my issues start.
I see no APNs. When I add an APN it disappears or I cannot save it.
I tried everything. Sometimes when I try to manually search for the network ATT pops up. When I select it, it will show bars for a short time or i may get a "sim not authorized for this network error.". When I add data roaming, it may shows the ATT APNs for a short time.
I also get an error when trying to add a simlock I get a "no sim card" error.
I am stumped. I searched the various forums and I get a lot of inconsistent info.
Is this issue related to the tablet being locked? Does that even matter? Is this some sort of region issue? Do I need to unlock the bootloader or should I use a different ROM?
I do not think the sim card is faulty.
Any help appreciated.
Sim Card Size????
So I compared the old Vodafone sim card with the 'new' AT&T sim card. The plastic outline of both cards seesm to be micro. However, the gold plated contacts on the new cards are definitely micro sim, but the old Vodafone card seems to be old school size (not sure what that size is called). If the size of the gold plated material matters, then this may be may issue. Like I said, above, when I first boot into the tablet with the new sim card I will have bars for a short time, but they disappear and the sim card does not seem to be recognized.
Can someone knowledgeable on sim card size matters as they pertain to the Xoom2 please weigh in and let me know if this is the issue?
I took a pic of the sim cards. From left to right: Old Vodafone sim, new AT&T sim, 2FF (mini sim card) for size comparison.
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