Hi guys,
What do you think the best option for me is for upgrading my phone? I currently have a Samsung Wave and the most important things for me are multimedia, the quality of audio playback and video playback (ideally without conversion but not a necessity).
Also, I do like a tinker! Would the HD2 be a good option due to it running WM, and Android ports, and potentially Windows Phone 7 eventually?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Throwing the Galaxy S into the mix. Anyone?
with galaxy S in the mix, it wins , but between x10 and HD2, the HD2 wins for Modability.
Any opinions on multimedia and audio quality?
I assume the HD2 comes last here, with the Galaxy S and X10 doing best?
Anyone have any opinions on the HD2 Android ports and how quick and stable they now are?
Hi, as you know HTC (and all others) disallow call recording in their phones since the times of Windows Mobile 2003. This problem is now on the Android devices too. There are many opened issues on Google code for this problem, that gained a lot of stars, especially this one code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117 (sorry, I'm new and not allowed to post links)
There are workarounds like recording trough loudspeaker, but as you know this is far from useful.
However, there is no official answer from Google about this "issue". However, last week the Koreans released a ROM for Samsung Galaxy S, that has built-in native call recorder.
This is from the Samsung's Hub:
Samsung has released a new update for South Korean Galaxy S (SHW-M110S) owners. The update DH09 is not a Froyo update but it does bring worthy additions to the handset. Few visible features are the inclusion of Swype keyboard, ability to record conversations and an app to detects the slope of the magnetic field sensor.
Other than that, the DH09 features RAM management, includes a 3G data widget, downloadable fonts and improves on many other fronts like Allshare, Google Maps software, call quality etc.
The update is available via Kies.
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There is a screenshot as attachment (it's in Chinese):
Is there any way to break apart this ROM (DH09) and bring this or similar functionality to Froyo for Desire or Nexus or anything...?
Could you explain me where exactly is the problem for successful two-way call recording? Some say it's in the hardware, other think it's in the ROMs of the manufactures or in Android in general. However in Android emulators it works perfectly!
waooooo....someone please extract it
Anyone? Any answer? At least people who hacked WM ROM's to explain me where exactly is the problem for two-way call recording.
Call Recording is something very useful and I think is a "must have" function in today's world. However big companies and carriers are afraid letting people do that for legal reasons. That's why I think they will never allow us to do that out of the box, so we (the users) have to make it reality with custom hacked ROMs, like we did previously for Windows Mobile devices!
Anybody say something, please
The voice streams were handled by the baseband processor, it's that the baseband firmware aren't setup to offer the streams to the application processor that's limiting the ability to truly record a call. The Android system long has the API implemented, but it can do nothing in this case.
I remember there was an explanation in the Google code issue report mentioned above.
Here it's: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2117#c226
Since the baseband firmware is close sourced and available in binary only, I doubt if the brilliant hackers here can do anything about this.
So, get a Galaxy S (the true one, not even those US variants) if you really want this feature.
Thanks for the reply. So, the bad guy is the baseband processor. iPhone guys hack the baseband processor of the iPhone to unlock it for different carriers. So, I guess it's doable to hack the firmware for two-way recording too.
I read here in XDA Devs that someone found a "cure" for HD2 very easily, just by editing the registry - xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/two-way-in-call-recording-on-hd2-fixed/
HD2 uses the Qualcomm’s Snapdragon QSD8250 processor with built-in baseband processor. The same is used by HTC Desire, HTC Dragon, HTC Mozart, Nexus One, Dell Streak, SE Xperia X10 and many more.
So, why with HD2 is so easily, but with Nexus is not? What is the difference when they use the same CPU with the same baseband processor built-in? Is the baseband firmware different for Android OS and Windows Mobile? If so, how they run Android on HD2 and the cellular is working?
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I found TotalRecall on the Android Market and it records both sides of my conversations.
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I found TotalRecall on the Android Market and it records both sides of my conversations.
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Many call recorders can record both-way, but only with the use of speakerphone. I suspect it's the same for TotalRecall, judging by the ratings of the 14-day demo (http://www.appbrain.com/app/total-recall-call-recorder/com.killermobile.totalrecall.trial)...?
mishoboss said:
Thanks for the reply. So, the bad guy is the baseband processor. iPhone guys hack the baseband processor of the iPhone to unlock it for different carriers. So, I guess it's doable to hack the firmware for two-way recording too.
I read here in XDA Devs that someone found a "cure" for HD2 very easily, just by editing the registry - xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/two-way-in-call-recording-on-hd2-fixed/
HD2 uses the Qualcomm’s Snapdragon QSD8250 processor with built-in baseband processor. The same is used by HTC Desire, HTC Dragon, HTC Mozart, Nexus One, Dell Streak, SE Xperia X10 and many more.
So, why with HD2 is so easily, but with Nexus is not? What is the difference when they use the same CPU with the same baseband processor built-in? Is the baseband firmware different for Android OS and Windows Mobile? If so, how they run Android on HD2 and the cellular is working?
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I hope I have an answer but, getting the Galaxy S is still the most fool-proof way thus far.
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I found TotalRecall on the Android Market and it records both sides of my conversations.
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Which phone you use? Which Android version? I hope you record the conversation without speaker turned on, right?
999phonebug said:
I hope I have an answer but, getting the Galaxy S is still the most fool-proof way thus far.
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OK, does somebody tested the Galaxy S with TotalRecall or other call recording software? Is it working out of the box or do I have to preflash the ROM with the korean's one? And if I do, could I continue to use my phone normally and in English language?
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OK, does somebody tested the Galaxy S with TotalRecall or other call recording software? Is it working out of the box or do I have to preflash the ROM with the korean's one? And if I do, could I continue to use my phone normally and in English language?
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Ooops... I wasn't aware only the South Korean firmware has native support for call recording... I wonder if it's available in the latest 2.2/Froyo global release...?
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Ooops... I wasn't aware only the South Korean firmware has native support for call recording... I wonder if it's available in the latest 2.2/Froyo global release...?
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Any one know how to get the "real" Galaxy S? I have been searching the internet to no avail?
Can some Genius please tell me how to flash the new Korean Froyo http://translate.google.at/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatpclub.com%2Fboard%2Findex.html%3Fid%3Duser9%26no%3D5203 onto a European Galaxy S ? Thanks
airplus said:
Any one know how to get the "real" Galaxy S? I have been searching the internet to no avail?
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Tried ebay?
dillovic said:
Can some Genius please tell me how to flash the new Korean Froyo http://translate.google.at/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ko&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmatpclub.com%2Fboard%2Findex.html%3Fid%3Duser9%26no%3D5203 onto a European Galaxy S ? Thanks
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Anyone????
there's an utility called AirVoice which claims to support voice recording without speakerphone on rooted g2 (htc magic) and g3 (htc hero) with certain ROM versions.
http://www.airrunner.cn/wordpress/
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Ooops... I wasn't aware only the South Korean firmware has native support for call recording... I wonder if it's available in the latest 2.2/Froyo global release...?
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No, it's not available in Froyo. This is only for Koreans. However the important thing here is that CALL RECORDING IS POSSIBLE on Galaxy S. As you stated in your first post, to record a call Android needs access to the baseband processor. Galaxy S uses own CPU called S5PC110 (ARM Cortex A8) with built-in baseband processor, which is different from the baseband that is used in the new HTC devices, SE Xperia and Droid. As we all know these devices doesn't work with the call recording apps on the Market. Samsung Galaxy S has really good chances to work properly with these apps!
SO, SOMEBODY PLEASE TEST!
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there's an utility called AirVoice which claims to support voice recording without speakerphone on rooted g2 (htc magic) and g3 (htc hero) with certain ROM versions.
http://www.airrunner.cn/wordpress/
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Nice! However for the EPIC STUPIDITY of the most users who gave low app rating, the author unpublished it from Market.
His app clearly shows that two-way call recording IS POSSIBLE, even on certain hardware and rooted Android. The author notes that his app only works on Hero and Magic. They use Qualcomm® MSM7000 and MSM7200, probably with the same baseband processor and he found a way to access it. I will try to contact him for more info and I hope some source code...
Hi,
I tried some apps like Ultimate Voice Recorder, Total Recall, Call Recorder, they all pick up sounds from the second you press dial so that you hear on the recording the phone ringing at the other side, and they stop a few seconds after the conversation starts. I cold hear on the recordings bouth sides, but no recording is over 10 seconds, no matter what settings I choosed. I didn't use the speaker mode.
Maybe some files need to be run as administrator...don't know... I'm new to android and don't know much about linux.
The other apps that claim to be able to record calls are designed for Android 1.6 so it may be possible but not with 2.1 or 2.2
As far as I understood from what I've read, the korean version of I9000 has also a different hardware not just firmware, so it might be more than just a software adjustment needed.
ccris said:
Hi,
I tried some apps like Ultimate Voice Recorder, Total Recall, Call Recorder, they all pick up sounds from the second you press dial so that you hear on the recording the phone ringing at the other side, and they stop a few seconds after the conversation starts. I cold hear on the recordings bouth sides, but no recording is over 10 seconds, no matter what settings I choosed. I didn't use the speaker mode.
Maybe some files need to be run as administrator...don't know... I'm new to android and don't know much about linux.
The other apps that claim to be able to record calls are designed for Android 1.6 so it may be possible but not with 2.1 or 2.2
As far as I understood from what I've read, the korean version of I9000 has also a different hardware not just firmware, so it might be more than just a software adjustment needed.
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I presume you use Galaxy S, right? That what you said is really interesting! The fact that recordings contain both sides is very encouraging! The 10 seconds bug I guess is due to some rights or something. I don't own Galaxy S to do further investigation of this problem, but I hope somebody who own it and is deep in Android to do it.
I don't think the Koreans version has different hardware. At least it uses the same CPU, and that means the same baseband processor.
Any news...?
Hey Y'all.
A friend and I have severe hearing deficiencies. I have one hearing aid and my buddy has two. Not deaf, but close.
Unfortunately, we're also passionate about sound. But that's second. I'm really hoping this hasn't been covered somewhere I missed. I've searched and searched, but:
Primarily, I'm looking for a global sound EQ for android...but I need to be specific. 10 Bands is just enough to do change what I need to change. The main thing here is globally applicable settings and specific frequency adjusting.
Any pointers from me? I've played around in Android development, but not enough to implement my own graphical EQ.
Neutron is easily my favorite music player on android, but it's not global. All the equalizers I've seen on android so far have been like 5-band. Nice, but I need to be specific on the higher and lower registers for all audio output on the phone.
On this phone (N5) specifically, I'm completely stock and need to stay unrooted for a small while, but not so on my galaxy nexus.
Thanks guys.
I would want one too. Not for your reasons, but just for sound quality. I use viper4android now, but it only works in the music player app. I wish there was something that was global across all apps.
I also know only about viper audio and maybe another project has been covered on xda portal but I think that if you want eq on all apps you will need root at least.
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Well root alone at least won't work as I've tried almost every thing. I want something to work across the board. I don't like sound of default video player. Perhaps it's bit flat.
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