Emulator output blurry over HDMI - Asus Transformer TF700

I have tried a number different emulators on my TF700 and I have found that a number of them (SuperGNES) for instance, will display fine on the tablet but their output is blurry on the TV via HDMI. The screen will even sharpen up for a second when I swap to another app or a menu but when playing it goes blurry. All other pps seem to display fine. Is anyone else experiencing this issue or knows of a solution?
Thanks
UPDATE: Retroarch seems to work fine but I can't seem to get it to work with my 8bitty or my onlive universal controller

beowolfschaefer said:
I have tried a number different emulators on my TF700 and I have found that a number of them (SuperGNES) for instance, will display fine on the tablet but their output is blurry on the TV via HDMI. The screen will even sharpen up for a second when I swap to another app or a menu but when playing it goes blurry. All other pps seem to display fine. Is anyone else experiencing this issue or knows of a solution?
Thanks
UPDATE: Retroarch seems to work fine but I can't seem to get it to work with my 8bitty or my onlive universal controller
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Prob the emulator itself. Is it stretching the screen for a standard definition out put rather than HD? Time to contact the emulator maker. it may look fine on the tab but that is because the screen is much smaller.

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hdmi mirroring to tv not showing full status bar!

does anyone have a fix for the hdmi mirroring being abit off? my status bar only shows half way when i hook it up to my tv. any suggestions on how to fix this? its really annoying me!
I think you have to fix that on your television. It's the same on mine and I believe it is just overscan. My TV has 5% overscan and that is just enough to cut off the top and bottom of the phone's screen.
speedbreaker said:
does anyone have a fix for the hdmi mirroring being abit off? my status bar only shows half way when i hook it up to my tv. any suggestions on how to fix this? its really annoying me!
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Have you tried a different cable? You should probably post this in general as this is not development.
Just go to your tv setting and look for something called dot to dot or fit screen, p.mode each tv is a little different, but they all do the same thing. You might even be able to find a button on your tv remote too.
I am assuming since you cannot even follow directions on the forum, it is user error.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046831 here is a link that will fix all your problems well yours not the phones sorry had too
Moved to proper forum.
What type of TV do you have? That is the important question. My dad has a DLP projection and overscan is something he's been battling for a long time. Not much you can do if the TV is overscanning everything.
With the stock rom, you could try to change the resolution (420, 720, 1080, etc). Sometimes this can help with overscan. We found that at lower resolutions, the overscan wasn't as bad.
With his TV, we ended up using a S-Video Cable to get rid of the overscan, which isn't an option here (HDMI is digital so 1-1 output, where S-Video is analog).
player911 said:
What type of TV do you have? That is the important question. My dad has a DLP projection and overscan is something he's been battling for a long time. Not much you can do if the TV is overscanning everything.
With the stock rom, you could try to change the resolution (420, 720, 1080, etc). Sometimes this can help with overscan. We found that at lower resolutions, the overscan wasn't as bad.
With his TV, we ended up using a S-Video Cable to get rid of the overscan, which isn't an option here (HDMI is digital so 1-1 output, where S-Video is analog).
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S-Video? Eeek.. I would accept the overscan over standard definition any day.

[Q] for those of you with an hdmi cable

got my motorola micro hdmi to full hdmi cable in the mail today. plugged 'er in and the picture came up right away. however, the whole screen of my xoom is not showing on my tv. i cant find any settings on the xoom to adjust the tv out.
any suggestions?
You're not going to see the status bar.
i know that, but it also cuts off about an inch on each side, and a small part of the top and bottom. its almost as if its zoomed in a little.
Well that's your TV then. Some do that.
ok, that's what i figured. just wanted to make sure there wasn't a setting on the xoom.
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Play with the different zoom options on your tv. You might have one that fits the entire image on the screen. This problem is caused because the xoom screen is 16:10 aspect ratio and your TV is 16:9
On my TV I have input settings that allow me to change it to the devices native ratio, or zoomed in on that. Maybe yours will have something similar.
I haven't tested my Xoom on the TV yet, but I know when I had my desktop hooked up to my TV, I had to have special settings for it because it would never display correctly.
OK Find out how to turn off over scan on your TV and it should solve the issue. Having over scan off for HDMI connections also improves image quality so its good to have it off

[Q] HDMI Changes usable screen space?

Kind of a weird problem, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one it happens to. If I plug the Transformer into my TV to say, play SNESoid on the big screen, my sixaxis controller stops working. This only happens when I'm using touch profiles within the sixaxis app. Tried to figure out why, and found that my usable screen space changes as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. What I mean is, I get a "dead" space between the bottom of my display, and the action bar at the bottom of the screen. Tried two different brand TVs, different cables, different roms, and different kernels and the problem persists.
I know I'm not fully explaining this, because I can't figure out how to put it into words. If no one has figured out my ramblings by the time I get home from work, I'll take screen shots of the problem and post them up.
hawkxcore said:
Kind of a weird problem, and I'm not sure if I'm the only one it happens to. If I plug the Transformer into my TV to say, play SNESoid on the big screen, my sixaxis controller stops working. This only happens when I'm using touch profiles within the sixaxis app. Tried to figure out why, and found that my usable screen space changes as soon as I plug the HDMI cable in. What I mean is, I get a "dead" space between the bottom of my display, and the action bar at the bottom of the screen. Tried two different brand TVs, different cables, different roms, and different kernels and the problem persists.
I know I'm not fully explaining this, because I can't figure out how to put it into words. If no one has figured out my ramblings by the time I get home from work, I'll take screen shots of the problem and post them up.
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I heard that the newest OTA stock update helps. ICS may help. I hear that revolver new update helps but not for my tv at least. I've also heard there are a few new and updated kernals that solve the problem of dead bar space. I have an AOC HDTV so i am probably screwed.
However, turn off touch profiles. You don't need them for emulators. I've played S3&K several nights with the HDMI cable and six axis app with ps3 controller and it works great. I even make the L3 button access the task bar menu so I can load saves and save easily. Very useful for those pesky super emeralds. I have not dabbed with the touch profiles yet so I don't know.
the hdmi output gives out 720p feed and increases the size of the system bar from whatever size it was to 80px high leaving 720px height usable to apps which will resize them and throw off your touch profiles
Ok... so it is a known issue... good. Any idea if the Prime suffers from the same problem?
I would turn off touch profiles, but i cant stand not having analog control in N64oid
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its not an issue it is just that most tv's have a 16x9 resolution so having it use a normal resolution will assure that there are no black bars on the tv
mrevankyle said:
its not an issue it is just that most tv's have a 16x9 resolution so having it use a normal resolution will assure that there are no black bars on the tv
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Well, you're right, the issue is not the tablet.
[rant] The issue is that my tablet and my laptop are 16:10... My TV is 16:9. My bluray movies are 2.39:1. Half the content on cable is 4:3. On top of that, it would seem no one knows which aspect ratio to scale their content to.
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[Q] HDMI output but stay in portrait?

Hello,
I am interested in keeping the android UI layout in portrait mode when it is connected to hdmi. Was wondering if this can be workedaround by a change to ini, boot or system file.
I currently have SGS2 and an Xperia S, I have HDMI working however the behavior is it shows in portrait for a second THEN the orientation switches to landscape, regardless of the phone's physical orientation. Seems like Android is programmed to go into this orientation when hdmi is connected, but it's not very useful to me...I'd rather it just stay in portrait , or better just follow the darn phone's physical orientation.
The phones should be capable of portrait output as it is shown like that for a second or two before the switch takes place, but how to keep it in portrait/disable it from going into landscape?
Hoping someone that has more programming skill than me-average Joe to find out where, how to do this.
Thanks in advance.
Eric
There's an app called rotation locker in this forum and I think on google play. Requires root though
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Tried that app, it didn't work.
The experience seems like some sort of status checking + switching of layout only when HDMI is connected.
I've observed this on stock Androids, if i'm using custom rom on my SGS2, this doesn't happen, so keeping the orientation in portrait CAN happen, just depends on the ROM, so it must be an action tied to HDMI connection being active.
Any more ideas?
You'r phone should have a place in the settings to keep it in portrait mode.
Try this: Settings>Display>Un-check "Auto-Rotate Screen"
Hope this helped
It is already unchecked, that's the first thing I checked naturally.
Anyone that has exp hacking or dived into system files with ideas?
My LG Optimus 3D did not have this problem. It did follow exact orientation of the phone. I see that your SGS2 is HDMI via MHL and an Xperia S is HDMI type-D same as mine.
I had tried the MHL adapter on a Galaxy Nexus and it was the same behavior as Xperia s, the device switched into landscape and can not be rotated the other way so the MHL vs Hdmi out is not the difference here. Good thinking tho.
Anyone else?....

Seeking a workaround to modify the HDMI output on the TF700

I bought the Asus "MicroHDMI to VGA" cable to allow me to hook up my TF700 to projectors and to LCDTV's generically - since I travel a lot and wanted to use this product to deliver presentations to clients.
Unfortunately, it refused to output anything to a number of devices, only reflected highly zoomed cropped versions on others, and worked on a select few - which confirmed that the cable and the HDMI port are both working and not defective.
Upon checking with Asus, they reverted as follows:
unlike a PC, Android on the tablet doesn't allow any resolution adjustments. So it'll be outputting 1920x1200. You didn't mention the make/model of the projector but you should check the available input range and check how this is handled, especially if it's not a full hd projector. Also check the projector settings and see what options are allowed for zoom/scaling the input.
I checked some devices, and it turns out that they are only capable upto SXGA (1280x1024) on the VGA interface. What Asus did not clarify is whether the MicroHD to VGA converter only provides as an output what is the input? I noted that this works with the TF300 and TF200 as well - both of them are at 1280x800 - which means that this cable should be capable of outputting that signal... is there a way to make the cable downconvert to a static output of 1280x800?
I also noticed that the firmware 9.4.2.21 on Asus TF201 came with an HDMI output tweak "New display mode of HDMI output - Scale mode(Default) and Crop mode (Detail comparison in next two sides)" Is there someone who can provide this as a port for the TF700? Perhaps this could solve the issue?
It would be great. I bought it for my presentation. Maybe a custom firmware in the future...
I noticed this annoying issue even when hooking up my tablet straight HDMI to my TV. My TV is a bit old and garbage, and doesn't offer any scaling, so unless I'm watching a video or something and just on the web or desktop, I get an image that is mostly cut off, and largely useless. Odd thing is, when I first hooked it up, it mostly scaled properly. It wasn't until I watched a video that it refused to scale again. I also noticed that when I first hooked it up, I got HDMI settings in the Settings, only offering 3D settings but still a start, but now I don't get anything. Definitely strange, not sure if it's a garbage cable, garbage TV, or something odd in the software.
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Personally I am hoping that we can use the HDMI output as a secondary monitor at some point.
the cable can't down-convert. all it can do is carry the signal that is applied to it. unless you find some way of outputting a different resolution on that port, you're stuck with 1920x1200. i don't know of any non-monitor display devices that accept HD resolution input on a VGA port. anything manufactured in the last decade or so will only accept HD input on a digital port (hdmi, dvi, displayport, etc).
cool_scorpion said:
I also noticed that the firmware 9.4.2.21 on Asus TF201 came with an HDMI output tweak "New display mode of HDMI output - Scale mode(Default) and Crop mode (Detail comparison in next two sides)" Is there someone who can provide this as a port for the TF700? Perhaps this could solve the issue?
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I did notice the HDMI output tweak on my TF201 - It let you crop/or scale the output slightly. Basically, it let you see 'Home, Back, Menu' icons on the TV, where usually you don't see those (b/c they are cropped off). If you set the HDMI output to "Scale" you can see them. It was an option though in the settings app. I don't see the same option on the TF700.
skola28 said:
I did notice the HDMI output tweak on my TF201 - It let you crop/or scale the output slightly. Basically, it let you see 'Home, Back, Menu' icons on the TV, where usually you don't see those (b/c they are cropped off). If you set the HDMI output to "Scale" you can see them. It was an option though in the settings app. I don't see the same option on the TF700.
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I had that menu appear for me once (yes, on TF700T). The weird thing was that I saw it first after I had disconnected HDMI that time...
Try to "force stop" the Settings app with HDMI connected. If that doesn't help, try rebooting with HDMI connected. It should either appear as its own menu in the Settings app or under "ASUS Customized Setting", I don't remember.
I have never seen the crop or scale options on my tf700... not sure how any of you have seen that with a stock ROM. Here is the kick with a 1920x1200 monitor.... it will output 1920x1080! It will not allow you to output the entire desktop unless the monitor scales the image itself. Once it is scaling and you can see the system bar, now go into settings hdmi.. then hit back. You will see the image fill the horizontal resolution properly, but vertical is cropped and cuts off the system bar. In either mode, you will get 1080 on the vertical res.
I WISH it would output the full res with ANY HDMI monitor!! I have several monitors that are at the native res and none of them will allow you to display the screen properly. If anyone has any ideas how to force the hdmi res to the native res of the tablet, please let me know! This would solve an issue that I have been trying to fix or find a workaround to ever since the release of this tab.
When connected to my Samsung TV (1080p), I get a cropped image and slightly overexposed colours, it's the same on at least one other TV. However, If I connect the pad to the HDMI/DVI slot and set it to DVI mode, the colours look much better and the display is scaled instead. This is the same behaviour as my old Notion Ink Adam with Tegra 2 (and any PC I've connected to my TV), so I guess the Tegras are actually outputting a DVI signal. :S
Outputting in 1920x1200 is a no-no if you want to connect it to a TV (which I do).
Ideally, there should be 3 options:
1) Output full desktop as 1920x1200 (for monitor usage)
2) Output full desktop as 1920x1080 (scaled down, for TV usage)
3) Output desktop minus system bar as 1920x1080
This way, you can pick the mode that suits your setup the best...
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Outputting in 1920x1200 is a no-no if you want to connect it to a TV (which I do).
Ideally, there should be 3 options:
1) Output full desktop as 1920x1200 (for monitor usage)
2) Output full desktop as 1920x1080 (scaled down, for TV usage)
3) Output desktop minus system bar as 1920x1080
This way, you can pick the mode that suits your setup the best...
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Agreed. I just want the stupid thing to do native res... but the rest is icing if I get it!
It appears to me that tf is able to change resolution. When i observe hdmi output on my tv and tf is on home page i get full res output. Part of screen is masked out until i resize tv vertically. When i play netflix movie the resolution changes to 1080x720. I think i saw tf locking in setting. When i first saw a video on tf with hdmi i think the video played on tv and tf. After Netflix video, streams like YouTube only shows on tv while hdmi is hooked up. This got me thinking if tf is locking settings maybe you can play a netflix movie and then get 1080 on your projecter. However even after netflix movie hulu + did not work when hdmi hooked, indicating resolution is dependent on app. Lets hope this gets corrected with jelly bean.
Maybe those that have loaded 300 jelly bean can commit on this. From what i read, i think, 300 has the settings, what happens on tf?
Woody
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Connect infinity to tv via hdmi.
In hdmi settings on infinity check 3D and you will get 1920x1080 picture without bar and full screen picture.
Now you can watch movies and play games on full screen.
bsplayer can play movies only on TV if you have connected to infinity.
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woodsonmh said:
It appears to me that tf is able to change resolution. When i observe hdmi output on my tv and tf is on home page i get full res output. Part of screen is masked out until i resize tv vertically. When i play netflix movie the resolution changes to 1080x720. I think i saw tf locking in setting. When i first saw a video on tf with hdmi i think the video played on tv and tf. After Netflix video, streams like YouTube only shows on tv while hdmi is hooked up. This got me thinking if tf is locking settings maybe you can play a netflix movie and then get 1080 on your projecter. However even after netflix movie hulu + did not work when hdmi hooked, indicating resolution is dependent on app. Lets hope this gets corrected with jelly bean.
Maybe those that have loaded 300 jelly bean can commit on this. From what i read, i think, 300 has the settings, what happens on tf?
Woody
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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It is capable, and does change the resolution that it is using to output based on the application if the app has those settings included. That is why you get a different res on netflix. The issue is that there is no reliable way to control the resolution or the way it displays on TVs and monitors.
It would be great if the hdmi menu actually had some useful settings like the ones mentioned earlier. More important is that we at least get the ability to scale or crop as a built in setting for this tab. I miss it... used to have it on the prime.
firetech said:
When connected to my Samsung TV (1080p), I get a cropped image and slightly overexposed colours, it's the same on at least one other TV. However, If I connect the pad to the HDMI/DVI slot and set it to DVI mode, the colours look much better and the display is scaled instead. This is the same behaviour as my old Notion Ink Adam with Tegra 2 (and any PC I've connected to my TV), so I guess the Tegras are actually outputting a DVI signal. :S
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the video signal over HDMI and DVI are actually the same. HDMI just has audio channels in the package as well.
Not exactly, dvi actually has an additional 5v signal that is needed to tell the monitor to turn on... our infinity lacks this signal just like the Xoom tablets. You can test this with a microhdmi to HDMI, then add a HDMI to dvi adapter and try to get a dvi monitor to work.
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woodsonmh said:
It appears to me that tf is able to change resolution. When i observe hdmi output on my tv and tf is on home page i get full res output. Part of screen is masked out until i resize tv vertically. When i play netflix movie the resolution changes to 1080x720. I think i saw tf locking in setting. When i first saw a video on tf with hdmi i think the video played on tv and tf. After Netflix video, streams like YouTube only shows on tv while hdmi is hooked up. This got me thinking if tf is locking settings maybe you can play a netflix movie and then get 1080 on your projecter. However even after netflix movie hulu + did not work when hdmi hooked, indicating resolution is dependent on app. Lets hope this gets corrected with jelly bean.
Maybe those that have loaded 300 jelly bean can commit on this. From what i read, i think, 300 has the settings, what happens on tf?
Woody
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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it is possible to change the resolution of your device. look at the link below, i have done this some time ago on my tf101 . dont know if these exact propertys are the same on tegra3 , cant test it on my prime (rma)
needs to be done in terminal and i think it needs root too.
"setprop persist.tegra.dpy5.mode.width 800 setprop persist.tegra.dpy5.mode.height 600"
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/vega-rom-development/4699-can-i-set-hdmi-output-100ma.html
Tempie007 said:
it is possible to change the resolution of your device. look at the link below, i have done this some time ago on my tf101 . dont know if these exact propertys are the same on tegra3 , cant test it on my prime (rma)
needs to be done in terminal and i think it needs root too.
"setprop persist.tegra.dpy5.mode.width 800 setprop persist.tegra.dpy5.mode.height 600"
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/vega-rom-development/4699-can-i-set-hdmi-output-100ma.html
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I have try this on my TF700T but no visible changes .....
Thanks _ looks like these is no solution after all
Everyone - many thanks for your inputs and contributions...
Unfortunately, it looks like there is no solution out there. The only option I see is to buy an external adapter, which takes in HDMI and gives out various types of outputs - like this one here... http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002SFT3ZI/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1
Since I don't live in the US, I would not want to buy this at a risk without knowing if this works... if any of you do test it out, please do let me know... will really appreciate it.
urrlyx said:
the cable can't down-convert. all it can do is carry the signal that is applied to it. unless you find some way of outputting a different resolution on that port, you're stuck with 1920x1200. i don't know of any non-monitor display devices that accept HD resolution input on a VGA port. anything manufactured in the last decade or so will only accept HD input on a digital port (hdmi, dvi, displayport, etc).
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huh? the VGA standard has and will accept resolutions up to and above "1080p" I've used 30 year old 3-tube CRT projectors that will display resolutions higher than apple's "retina display" Matter of fact, I am currently shoving 1920x1080 @60hz progressive into a mitsubishi CRT rear projection TV through 5-wire (VGA breakout into RGBHV)
that and HD is definined as ANY resolution above 1280x720, even most ****ty LCD TVs will take 1366x768 at a minimum though an analog input.
you're only right about the cable, it will not change scan frequencies/dot clocks on the fly, that's for the hardware to do.
that or just carry around a small scaler, DVDO makes some nice products that are very flexible with many different outputs and their magic little boxes will let you put ANY signal on ANY display as long as you've got some combination of cables and adapters to make the connection.
scalers are your friends!

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