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I need to root. After bricking and using odin to get back to stock, my phone wont root again. why, you ask? well, because the phone will not connect to the computer via adb interface. I have usb debugging on, I connect my phone, it installs to the computer, but adb wont work for me. neither will super one click. is there a way to root without using a computer? maybe through terminal emulator? or an app that will work? I know z4 wont work i tried it. someone please give me some advice here. im on xp, i have tried different drivers, tried rebooting the phone, nothing works. please help.
sidekick_fanatic said:
I bricked my sk4g due to bad rom flash. I wanted to try one click unbrick, but couldnt get it to work on my computer. So my only other option was to odin it back to stock. before bricking, i had rooted it with superoneclick. i immediately tried superoneclick after odin. several different things would happen. one, it would go through the whole process and say i was rooted, but root checker pro would say i didnt have root. two, superoneclick would tell me my device was unreadable. i would ignore it and it would go through, but still not rooted. three, superoneclick would hang after killing the adb server. I then attempted to root manually. I downloaded rageagainstthecage and atempted to push it through a command prompt. I have sdk installed and all the other necessary things for a manual root. but when i typed adb devices in command prompt, the list came up empty. i deleted all the drivers, plugged the phone back in, and let the drivers reinstall several times, but my device still will not connect to the adb interface. the drivers are installing, and the usb is connecting through storage mode and firmware update mode, but not through adb no matter what i do. i am on windows xp and i do not have another computer to use. someone please tell me how to root another way or possibly flash a rooted rom through odin. thank you.
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Try this and post results:
ODIN
Get KD1 or KG2 Firmware
Then visit..
-x]Trunks[x- said:
HERE and HERE
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And now you should successfully rooted on stock firmware
some of those pages I have already been to. the stock rom you linked is the rom I used to odin my phone. some of those pages were confusing to me, and as far as cwm recovery goes, need root to change recovery binary. before bricking, I had root and cwm. what i need (sorry to sound like such a noob) is a step by step in this thread. please dont post links to me unless they apply to my particular situation. superoneclick, odin, cwm, these are all things i already know how to do. my question is how can i root if my phone wont connect to my pc through adb?
also, odin still recognizes my phone. i can still brick my phone and odin it all day long if i want to. I used the tutorial in one of the links you posted and downloaded the odexed stock rom and followed the tutorial exactly. the phone works, but i cant root it. there has to be someone who can help me figure this out.
bumping this thread hoping someone out there has some useful info for me. thanks
Did you turn on USB debugging?
settings->applications->development->USB Debugging
yes I did. adb is not connecting.
basically what I need is a way to flash a rooted rom through odin or another way to root without using adb. possibly without connecting to the computer, like through terminal emulator or something?
what if I added superuser, busybox, and su to my stock odin rom that I have and just odin again? would that give me root?
what if I added superuser, busybox, and su to my stock odin rom that I have and just odin again? would that give me root?
You can root the phone fine do it after the odin
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I think I should start a new thread so I can be a little more concise. I can see that at least one person here completely does not understand what I am talking about.
No just edit the og post
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xtrem88, do you understand what I am saying? I bricked my phone and had to use odin to get it back to stock. now my phone will not root. superoneclick runs, but for some reason doesnt configure root properly. i end up with superuser installed, but no root. when i try to root through command prompt, i type in adb devices and the list comes back empty. what I think I want to do at this point is odin a rooted rom.
Ohhh ok now i get it you got to. Odin it again and do not connect storage
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I am updating the firmware through kies mini right now, since the firmware i odin'd wasnt the latest. I just unmounted and removed the sd card. are you saying that was the problem before?
Yeah dont use the sd card
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I got it rooted. Im on KD1 firmware, but at least I am rooted. I feel like a simpleton, though. Wait till I tell you what the problem was. I was using superoneclick the whole time, and it wasnt working. I re-read the tutorial for the umpteenth time to see if I had missed anything, and it finally dawned on me that each time root had failed, I hadnt rebooted my device after running superoneclick. I just ran superoneclick, it did its thing, I disconnected and rebooted, and voila, I have root. I verified root by going to superuser and updating the su binary. thats how i knew it failed before. each time i would try to update su, it would say obtaining root access and it would fail. this time when it said obtaining root access, superuser asked for permission and i knew I had root. I am so ticked at myself for spending so much time doing it wrong, but so happy that I finally did it right lol. the whole time I thought odin was causing the problem, but im glad to know it wasnt. now i know if i brick my phone again, i can just odin and root and the phone will be back to running and rooted in like 10 minutes.
Lmao
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sidekick_fanatic said:
I got it rooted. Im on KD1 firmware, but at least I am rooted. I feel like a simpleton, though. Wait till I tell you what the problem was. I was using superoneclick the whole time, and it wasnt working. I re-read the tutorial for the umpteenth time to see if I had missed anything, and it finally dawned on me that each time root had failed, I hadnt rebooted my device after running superoneclick. I just ran superoneclick, it did its thing, I disconnected and rebooted, and voila, I have root. I verified root by going to superuser and updating the su binary. thats how i knew it failed before. each time i would try to update su, it would say obtaining root access and it would fail. this time when it said obtaining root access, superuser asked for permission and i knew I had root. I am so ticked at myself for spending so much time doing it wrong, but so happy that I finally did it right lol. the whole time I thought odin was causing the problem, but im glad to know it wasnt. now i know if i brick my phone again, i can just odin and root and the phone will be back to running and rooted in like 10 minutes.
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Soo.....this entire time the process I posted didn't work due to a simple reboot after superoneclick....*crickets*....
LMAO!!!! Glad you got your problem solved
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I have done a lot of reading her about rooting and updating my TF300. After getting a headspinning amount of information, I'd like someone to verify what I think I know.
I have a TF300, stock ROM, no root, running US .17. I have not received any updates after going to Settings/about tab/update and pressing the update button (I get "no updates found') I have cleared DM and CM client and rebooted several times, but no updates are found. I have tried on several WiFI networks I have access to.
1. I should be able to root using one of several one click methods I have found here, correct?
2. Once rooted and root keeper is installed, I should be able to update to .29 and keep root, correct?
3. A manual update to US .29, once rooted, will cause me to lose root, correct?
4. Will I receive Over The Air update once rooted? If not, how can I update to US .29 without losing root?
5. Is this the best path to take, or is there another path that would be easier for a newb like me (I know just enough about Android to be dangerous)? What I mean by another path is, should I manually update to US .29 and wait for a one click solution to come out later, all the while enjoying the new update.
6. All this is to fix some lag issues I have with all browsers....Tried Stock, Dolphin, Firefox, Opera...all the same. Some FC and others just hang for up to 30 seconds, even in Performance mode (With only one tab open!) So this will "FIX" those lag issues, correct?
Thank you for your time
If you're still on .17, root with sparkyroot, save it with ota rootkeeper, update to .29 (if it isn't there, they've been posted in many places on the forums), and restore root. As for fixing lag issues, it depends on what you do, rooting alone won't change anything, but you can try out the different tweaks available.
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Missed a couple of your questions, yes, you will still receive ota updates if you're rooted, as long as you don't unlock the bootloader. This is the easiest way to root too, all you need to do is follow sparkyroot's instructions and back up your root.
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One question always leads to another
Thank you! But of course, I now have just a few more questions.
I do understand rooting alone will not help me with my lag issues. I'm hoping the update to .29 will. I am not a power user, but I would like the option open to me later to install ROMs, hence why I want to root now.
1. I thought I had to unlock bootloader to root. With sparkyroot I do not?
2. Since I have not unlocked bootloader, will rooting alone void my warranty? I thinking not since I should be able to unroot with no trace, correct?
3. I thought, (or read somewhere here, I think) that if I do a MANUAL install, I would lose root and be unable to regain it. If I get an update PUSHED to me by ASUS, Ill be able to regain root with rootkeeper. Is that correct?
I'd like to thank everyone here, by the way, for all the information I have gotten in my 30 days of owning this tablet and lurking here.
Throb1231 said:
Thank you! But of course, I now have just a few more questions.
I do understand rooting alone will not help me with my lag issues. I'm hoping the update to .29 will. I am not a power user, but I would like the option open to me later to install ROMs, hence why I want to root now.
1. I thought I had to unlock bootloader to root. With sparkyroot I do not?
2. Since I have not unlocked bootloader, will rooting alone void my warranty? I thinking not since I should be able to unroot with no trace, correct?
3. I thought, (or read somewhere here, I think) that if I do a MANUAL install, I would lose root and be unable to regain it. If I get an update PUSHED to me by ASUS, Ill be able to regain root with rootkeeper. Is that correct?
I'd like to thank everyone here, by the way, for all the information I have gotten in my 30 days of owning this tablet and lurking here.
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No need to unlock for root. They are completely unrelated. Just update manually and use THIS THREAD to root .29. There's even a one-click tool like you wanted. Don't forget to press Thanks for miloj.
Oh, and after you've updated to .29 and rooted; don't forget to use OTA rootkeeper to backup root.
If Asus releases a new update it may save your root.
EndlessDissent said:
No need to unlock for root. They are completely unrelated. Just update manually and use THIS THREAD to root .29. There's even a one-click tool like you wanted. Don't forget to press Thanks for miloj.
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He's still on the .17 software, so no need to do that. Just use the sparkyroot method, backup with rootkeeper and then update.
Edit to add that no, rooting will not void the warranty, just unroot before you need to send it back.
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Yeah, he's still on .17, but he's not getting the OTA prompt. He wants to manually upgrade, and you can't restore root after a manual upgrade, so my advice still stands.
Thank you both! Rooted with Sparky root and backed up with OTA rootsaver. Now I have downloaded the .29 update from ASUS webpage and installed. It says I have lost root.
I tried to restore root with OTA and it says SU restored, however it does not show that I have root access. Tring to use Titanium BU also shows I do not have root.
Tried then to go back to Sparkyroot and try again, but to no avail. Do I now have to downgrade back to .17 to gain root because I messed it up, or is there a solution? I was rooted for several hours before the upgrade to .29.
Throb1231 said:
Thank you both! Rooted with Sparky root and backed up with OTA rootsaver. Now I have downloaded the .29 update from ASUS webpage and installed. It says I have lost root.
I tried to restore root with OTA and it says SU restored, however it does not show that I have root access. Tring to use Titanium BU also shows I do not have root.
Tried then to go back to Sparkyroot and try again, but to no avail. Do I now have to downgrade back to .17 to gain root because I messed it up, or is there a solution? I was rooted for several hours before the upgrade to .29.
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No, you need to go to:
h tt p://forum.xda-developers.c om/showthread.php?t=1704209 (sorry for the chopped up link. I can't post links yet)
and root again.
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Yeah, he's still on .17, but he's not getting the OTA prompt. He wants to manually upgrade, and you can't restore root after a manual upgrade, so my advice still stands.
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Ah, ok. Didn't realize you couldn't restore if you updated manually.
Yes, it is as I thought. Tried Sparkys and miloj's root program and I can not get root. I ran the program twice from my lap top. Driver's for TF300 show installed in Device manager (Windows 7). ASUS sync was installed in laptop and recognized TF300 but the program was not running during root attempt.
When I run Superuser and attempt to update SU binaries, I get "Failed" when it attempts pathway to write update.
Attempted to restore using OTA rootkeeper but all I get is "SU Restored". Check boxes indicate no root.
Any other ideas?
Confirmed I am on .29 from a MANUAL update.
Tried again from home computer. Ran Sparky and miloj program. I get error stating
"failed to copy 'Superuser.apk' to '/data/local/tmp/Superuser.apk' : not a directory"
Tablet reboots and says I should be rooted but obviously not. Superuser not written to tablet
Throb1231 said:
Tried again from home computer. Ran Sparky and miloj program. I get error stating
"failed to copy 'Superuser.apk' to '/data/local/tmp/Superuser.apk' : not a directory"
Tablet reboots and says I should be rooted but obviously not. Superuser not written to tablet
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Can you just install Superuser from the market? The su binaries might be there and the app just isn't installing. I may be wrong, not sure how the automated program works, but it can't hurt.
Just tried that. Installs fine but when I try to update binaries, I get error writing to filepath, telling me there is no root. I'm hoping this makes 10 posts for me so I can actually go to Sparky's thread in Dev. forum and ask directly. Thanks for your help tho. Ill still be monitoring here if anyone has a solution
Throb1231 said:
Just tried that. Installs fine but when I try to update binaries, I get error writing to filepath, telling me there is no root. I'm hoping this makes 10 posts for me so I can actually go to Sparky's thread in Dev. forum and ask directly. Thanks for your help tho. Ill still be monitoring here if anyone has a solution
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Try manually doing the code from miloj's thread?
While the instructions in his thread are clear, they are way past my level of expertise. I would not attempt it without someone standing next to me. I have not entered code since the 1980's Compute! magazine days.
Throb1231 said:
While the instructions in his thread are clear, they are way past my level of expertise. I would not attempt it without someone standing next to me. I have not entered code since the 1980's Compute! magazine days.
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Well, I can't think of anything else, you could just use the downgrade method, that's easy enough. The code really is just copy/paste though.
Throb1231 said:
Just tried that. Installs fine but when I try to update binaries, I get error writing to filepath, telling me there is no root. I'm hoping this makes 10 posts for me so I can actually go to Sparky's thread in Dev. forum and ask directly. Thanks for your help tho. Ill still be monitoring here if anyone has a solution
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Your problem is not with the superuser apk.
The actual root is when you write an "su" binary to system and makes it executable (there is some access control stuff in between, but it's what's happening in essence).
So - your trouble is not with the installation nor the messages from superuser.apk - it's with the actual rooting method.
Make absolutely sure your adb drivers are working and that you've got the files "debugfs", "su" and the other debugfs file on top of the .bat file, which is the installation script, in the same directory whilst running the .bat file.
Agreed. I posted this in development.
It was surprisingly more difficult to install the drivers correctly than anticipated.
For those noobs like me, here's a step-by-step for installing the drivers before running the root method.
http://transformerprimeroot.com/tra...all-transformer-prime-usb-drivers-on-windows/
Please note that before using the step-by-step guide above, I also had to put the tf300 in Camera Mount to even get the "“ASUS Android Composite ADB Interface" option to show up in Device Manager.
Once you get this far, you can manually update the driver (found in the sparkym3 "Drivers" folder from the download) via the step-by-step.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699089&page=40
I tried using that method to root my phone, but Super SU just won't install binaries. First time around it just wouldn't work, after a few tries I unrooted my device and started over. I got the same message, "Unable to install, reboot"
Then after that it said something like "If you upgraded to 4.3 then reroot" Something like that. Which is weird because I have 4.4.2.
What's going on? I tried Superuser but when I tried installing the binaries it crashed when it was doing a software update twice so I had to hold down on volume up and the power button to reboot it on both occasions.
Also, how do I do an ADB Reboot? What's the easiest method? I tried doing that on my PC but it keeps saying device not detected Maybe I'm not setting up the program for that right? Yes, Developer Options and USB Debugging are enabled.
Yes my M8 is from Verizon. Is there another method for one-click rooting?
Anyone?
CannedBullets said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699089&page=40
I tried using that method to root my phone, but Super SU just won't install binaries. First time around it just wouldn't work, after a few tries I unrooted my device and started over. I got the same message, "Unable to install, reboot"
Then after that it said something like "If you upgraded to 4.3 then reroot" Something like that. Which is weird because I have 4.4.2.
What's going on? I tried Superuser but when I tried installing the binaries it crashed when it was doing a software update twice so I had to hold down on volume up and the power button to reboot it on both occasions.
Also, how do I do an ADB Reboot? What's the easiest method? I tried doing that on my PC but it keeps saying device not detected Maybe I'm not setting up the program for that right? Yes, Developer Options and USB Debugging are enabled.
Yes my M8 is from Verizon. Is there another method for one-click rooting?
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Probably the last thing you wanna do but if it wont work have you considered a factory reset? Usually solves most issues & are you S-OFF? Asking the S-OFF question because if you are you can flash a custom recovery and just flash the binaries. 0% failure rate with that as far as I know. About the ADB Reboot question, did you install the HTC Sync Manager so it would install the proper drivers and then removed the Sync program (not drivers)?
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Probably the last thing you wanna do but if it wont work have you considered a factory reset? Usually solves most issues & are you S-OFF? Asking the S-OFF question because if you are you can flash a custom recovery and just flash the binaries. 0% failure rate with that as far as I know. About the ADB Reboot question, did you install the HTC Sync Manager so it would install the proper drivers and then removed the Sync program (not drivers)?
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I have not considered a factory reset. Also, what's S-OFF? I'm not sure what that is. Also do you mean the HTC Transfer Tool? I don't have that.
CannedBullets said:
I have not considered a factory reset. Also, what's S-OFF? I'm not sure what that is. Also do you mean the HTC Transfer Tool? I don't have that.
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I don't really know how to explain what "S" is other than its security/signature verification(not sure on signature verification), when your phone is S-ON you can't flash any non verified rom or write to protected areas of your phone such as /system which is required for root, etc and I know it does more than that but I'm not 100% educated as to what it means yet though so can't give you a 100% accurate or complete explanation.
Now based off of what I just said and a little research i'm quite sure you actually require it for a permanent root solution such as SuperSU but could be wrong.
Anyways if you're interested in doing it go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708628 and follow the instructions carefully. This also unlocks your bootloader which means you can install custom roms, kernels, flash scripts, apps, SuperSU for PERMANENT root, etc. In order to do these things you'll need to flash a custom recovery such as TWRP or CWM (Team Win Recovery Project & Clockwork Mod/Philz Touch). Afterwards it's quite simple from there on out, just be careful and research before you do anything I've suggested/stated. Also on the Sync Manager thing, what you need to do is install it from here http://www.htc.com/us/support/software/htc-sync-manager.aspx and then let it install the phone drivers for your M8 on your computer and then you need to uninstall it "HTC Sync Manager" from your computer in order to do the S-OFF process.
Please do be careful and get a good understanding before you do this though, re-read things a few times and make sure you're well aware of what it means and how to do it properly.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Probably the last thing you wanna do but if it wont work have you considered a factory reset? Usually solves most issues & are you S-OFF? Asking the S-OFF question because if you are you can flash a custom recovery and just flash the binaries. 0% failure rate with that as far as I know. About the ADB Reboot question, did you install the HTC Sync Manager so it would install the proper drivers and then removed the Sync program (not drivers)?
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S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
I don't really know how to explain what "S" is other than its security/signature verification(not sure on signature verification), when your phone is S-ON you can't flash any non verified rom or write to protected areas of your phone such as /system which is required for root, etc and I know it does more than that but I'm not 100% educated as to what it means yet though so can't give you a 100% accurate or complete explanation.
Now based off of what I just said and a little research i'm quite sure you actually require it for a permanent root solution such as SuperSU but could be wrong.
Anyways if you're interested in doing it go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708628 and follow the instructions carefully. This also unlocks your bootloader which means you can install custom roms, kernels, flash scripts, apps, SuperSU for PERMANENT root, etc. In order to do these things you'll need to flash a custom recovery such as TWRP or CWM (Team Win Recovery Project & Clockwork Mod/Philz Touch). Afterwards it's quite simple from there on out, just be careful and research before you do anything I've suggested/stated. Also on the Sync Manager thing, what you need to do is install it from here http://www.htc.com/us/support/software/htc-sync-manager.aspx and then let it install the phone drivers for your M8 on your computer and then you need to uninstall it "HTC Sync Manager" from your computer in order to do the S-OFF process.
Please do be careful and get a good understanding before you do this though, re-read things a few times and make sure you're well aware of what it means and how to do it properly.
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Yeah I'll have to look into that. I'm not sure if I'll ever flash a custom ROM though on my M8, Sense 6 is good as it is, I need to get Cyanogenmod on my Razr Maxx, Motoblur on it is just slow ever since they updated it to 4.1.2.
CannedBullets said:
Yeah I'll have to look into that. I'm not sure if I'll ever flash a custom ROM though on my M8, Sense 6 is good as it is, I need to get Cyanogenmod on my Razr Maxx, Motoblur on it is just slow ever since they updated it to 4.1.2.
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Most of the ROM's for the M8 are Sense based anyways so you won't have a problem if you want Sense.
S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Most of the ROM's for the M8 are Sense based anyways so you won't have a problem if you want Sense.
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I just had a strange morning. What's new right? This morning I saw that my Titanium Back had a superuser fail. I had no problems yesterday. I used SuperSU to root and checked to see if Titanium Back was granted rights and it was. Still no luck running it. So Titanium suggested I load Superuser which I was not running. I installed it and it said it could not update the binary. That's weird so I read this post and reflashed SuperSU and yep Titanium backup was denied in the grant list. I granted it and everything is OK now. I posted here because I saw an unusual program in the grant list in SuperSU. It is com.koushikdutta.superuser. I don't know what that is but I bet that was the culprit. It did not show before I updated so it was hidden. Anybody know where this came from?
Weaksauce will not install binaries that's why it needs to reroot your phone every time you reboot. If you want your root to stick you need to be S-OFF. Since you are on 4.2.2 you could try Firewater to gain S-OFF. (Only works for some M8'S on 4.2.2)
http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/
If firewater does not work then you need to use Sunshine which I believe it cost $25. (Will not work on 4.4.4!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
Not sure if you have adb/fastboot set up on your computer but if not...Google! I know there are instructions on how to set that up because I had to Google it. I think that may be the hardest part of all of this, if you can follow instructions WORD FOR WORD after setting that up I don't see how you can mess up. If you do find yourself stuck well we are here
SOLUTION
CannedBullets said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699089&page=40
I tried using that method to root my phone, but Super SU just won't install binaries. First time around it just wouldn't work, after a few tries I unrooted my device and started over. I got the same message, "Unable to install, reboot"
Then after that it said something like "If you upgraded to 4.3 then reroot" Something like that. Which is weird because I have 4.4.2.
What's going on? I tried Superuser but when I tried installing the binaries it crashed when it was doing a software update twice so I had to hold down on volume up and the power button to reboot it on both occasions.
Also, how do I do an ADB Reboot? What's the easiest method? I tried doing that on my PC but it keeps saying device not detected Maybe I'm not setting up the program for that right? Yes, Developer Options and USB Debugging are enabled.
Yes my M8 is from Verizon. Is there another method for one-click rooting?
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**SOLUTION**
Download the SuperSU ZIP from the link below;
http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
Reboot your device into your custom recovery of choice, install the ZIP (which should be in your download folder on "sdcard" by default), reboot.
It should now work with no issues!
KnightAlex said:
**SOLUTION**
Download the SuperSU ZIP from the link below;
download.chainfire.eu/supersu
Reboot your device into your custom recovery of choice, install the ZIP (which should be in your download folder on "sdcard" by default), reboot.
It should now work with no issues!
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I installed CM13 on my Moto G 1st Gen also GApps, I also had TWRP working. So my next step was to install SuperSU (UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip) with TWRP, after it says it was succesfull, i wanted to reboot the system, it is stuck in the Cyanogenmod Bootanimation and won't boot into the system. And It also stuck in the TWRP loading screen when i want to load into recovery!
What can I do? I have still files on the phone which I want to preserve!
Umm. This is a HTC one m8 forum?
Hi,
a couple months ago, I successfully rooted my Idol 3 with the "root.bat" method. I realised a week ago that my phone was not rooted anymore and I tried to re-root it in the same fasion, but it didn't work. I then proceeded to unlock the TWRP recovery loader and re-installed SuperSU from there. I used RootCheck to see if my device was rooted and it is not. I can't gain root access either and SuperSU prompts me with a dialog box saying "SuperSU binary needs to be updated". If anyone can offer any help, I would greatly appreciate it I'm a little nooby when it comes to rooting, so if I was too vague in my description of the problem, please point it out so I can be more specific.
Thanks,
-Yasio
Found a solution if anyone is ever intrested!
Turns out my firmware had some sort of issue, so I used the Mobile Upgrade Q utility and just re-flashed the phone with the stock firmware. You can find a whole tutorial here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/help/return-to-stock-firmware-recovery-t3216077)?
It's super easy. Then, I just re-rooted the phone with the TWRP method DallasCZ came up with also posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/idol-3/general/guide-unlock-bootloader-root-alcatel-t3161878
And there you go, I got root access back and got rid of the freakin' "Binary files need to be updated" or w/e prompt in SuperSU.
Thanks again to DallasCZ and others for their hard work on the rooting scene for the Idol 3. I love this phone and you made me love it even more
-Yasio
I was messing with a bunch of stuff like supersu me, trying to replace kingroot with supersu in terminal emulator, but I don't think that had anything to do with it. I re-ran kingroot today, and now, even if I power it off all the way, or reboot, it still holds root! Permanent root is a big step, but I always want more. lol. I'm hoping there will be a way to replace it with supersu soon, and get flashfire working. On 5.1.1 BOH4 Good luck everyone!
Edit: I have no idea how I was able to keep a permanent root, but alas, I had to go messing with $#!+, and end result was having to flash stock firmware and not be able to get permanent root again. I'm not sure if things I was messing with played a strange part, or if somehow kingroot magically went through that one time, but it sucks to have lost it. I can replace kingroot with supersu using a Replace_Kinguser_with_SuperSU-v2.4 zip file, flashing it in terminal emulator, then using a power menu for root app to soft reboot before kingroot fail errors start to pop up. Sadly, if hard reboot or power off and on are done, root with supersu are wiped. If you do this, don't update the su binary or you'll hang at at&t logo in a softbrick.
whats wrong with twrp?
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whats wrong with twrp?
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Not sure what you mean. TWRP doesn't work on most samsung devices 5.0 & up. Also, Kingroot is limited, so as of now, flashfire doesn't work. What I'm hoping is, the supersu me app will be updated to replace the current kingroot with supersu, which should fix the flashfire problem. If flashfire works, I'm pretty sure custom roms can be flashed after that. Busybox is installable.
thelous said:
whats wrong with twrp?
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the bootloader is locked
xjimmy said:
Not sure what you mean. TWRP doesn't work on most samsung devices 5.0 & up. Also, Kingroot is limited, so as of now, flashfire doesn't work. What I'm hoping is, the supersu me app will be updated to replace the current kingroot with supersu, which should fix the flashfire problem. If flashfire works, I'm pretty sure custom roms can be flashed after that. Busybox is installable.
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if i remember right theres some files thst you need to delete to prevent "unroot" in boot...... similar to stock recovery flashing back on some devices after installing twrp or cwm
My rooting experience with kingroot has been temp root, with reboots causing soft brick, an update to kingroot making reboots possible without bricking, but causing unroot, and the latest update where it retains root after reboot. So whatever they did, it's working now. It is limited, however, as I doubt cwm or twrp is flashable, and flashfire doesn't work with kingroot.
What I don't want is for people to doubt me. It's easy to download the latest kingroot and try it. The lp fix boot.tar is still available, but you'll see, you won't need it. And the stock firmware .tar is available so you really have nothing to lose. What I'm hoping is, more people do it so we can move forward. I'd like to see a new version of supersu me, and flash fire working. Get to a point where we see some custom roms.
Which version of KingRoot did you use? 5.0.0 or 5.0.1?
Tried KingRoot v5.0.1 app and root doesnt stick after reboot. It actually took much longer to root then it takes with 5.0.0 version.
There is also two versions of KingRoot from different KingRoot websites; a 13.7mb and 18.5mb version. Large version, has ads and nagging notifications.
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Tried KingRoot v5.0.1 app and root doesnt stick after reboot. It actually took much longer to root then it takes with 5.0.0 version.
There is also two versions of KingRoot from different KingRoot websites; a 13.7mb and 18.5mb version. Large version, has ads and nagging notifications.
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If you're talking about the actual apk app for android, there is no version 5.0 or 5.0.1, the latest version is 4.9.2
You need to make sure you're going to Kingroot's actual website, otherwise you're going to end up on weird websites claiming to have the newest version and all that, end up with "ads and nagging notifications." lol. I bet if you opened up the kingroot app you downloaded, hit the options button (3 dots) in the top right corner and selected "about app," you'd see a different version of kingroot than 5.0, 5.0.1, or 4.9.2
If you're referring to the pc method, then I'm not sure what version that is. It pops up in a foreign language, and you might want to look up how to follow the steps accordingly. I'd be willing to bet that the pc version works just as well, though. Hope you figure out where you went wrong. Good luck.
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If you're talking about the actual apk app for android, there is no version 5.0 or 5.0.1, the latest version is 4.9.2
You need to make sure you're going to Kingroot's actual website, otherwise you're going to end up on weird websites claiming to have the newest version and all that, end up with "ads and nagging notifications." lol. I bet if you opened up the kingroot app you downloaded, hit the options button (3 dots) in the top right corner and selected "about app," you'd see a different version of kingroot than 5.0, 5.0.1, or 4.9.2
If you're referring to the pc method, then I'm not sure what version that is. It pops up in a foreign language, and you might want to look up how to follow the steps accordingly. I'd be willing to bet that the pc version works just as well, though. Hope you figure out where you went wrong. Good luck.
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The app i downloaded is version 5.0.1.392 165 from Kingroot.net
Su Version 3.64.
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The app i downloaded is version 5.0.1.392 165 from Kingroot.net
Su Version 3.64.
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Well I'll be damned. I just downloaded it and you're right. I just hate eating crow. I apologize. I will say that the reason I was insistent on it being the latest update is because that's what I did, was have my version kingroot (4.9.2 143) check for updates and it says it's up to date. I downloaded it from the official site, tried it, and had success the same day I posted this thread. My kernel version says v4.8.0 67, and my Su version says v3.61
I would be interested, if you were willing, to hear your results after trying version 4.9.2. Also, did you try it on the pc to see the difference? If none of this works, is there a developer that I could somehow give a system dump to, maybe to see how I have root still, including after reboots? I'm not making this up, and would be willing to show you on skype if you pm me. I'm afraid to unroot it now and try it again. lol
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Well I'll be damned. I just downloaded it and you're right. I just hate eating crow. I apologize. I will say that the reason I was insistent on it being the latest update is because that's what I did, was have my version kingroot (4.9.2 143) check for updates and it says it's up to date. I downloaded it from the official site, tried it, and had success the same day I posted this thread. My kernel version says v4.8.0 67, and my Su version says v3.61
I would be interested, if you were willing, to hear your results after trying version 4.9.2. Also, did you try it on the pc to see the difference? If none of this works, is there a developer that I could somehow give a system dump to, maybe to see how I have root still, including after reboots? I'm not making this up, and would be willing to show you on skype if you pm me. I'm afraid to unroot it now and try it again. lol
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I tried the PC app twice but, it was annoying having to read the instructions on their site because they didnt translate it. The root did stick once with PC app. Not sure what made it unstick. I think its because i cleared cache in the recovery mode but, i didnt test that theory, i switched to apk.
The manual update option in the apk doesn't work properly, each time it tells me that current version is up to date. So the auto update is also useless.
I'll test the 4.92 version of KingRoot apk on the tablet and get back to you with the results. At the end of the day, i have no need for permanent root after I debloated the tablet.
KingRoot has its own thread here on the forums. You can ask them directly if you have any questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
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Here are all the builds of KingRoot you can download for you to play with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=9793#downloads
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Ran kingroot apk 4.9.2 and the root doesnt stick. Either you got lucky or you did something with supersu.
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I tried the PC app twice but, it was annoying having to read the instructions on their site because they didnt translate it. The root did stick once with PC app. Not sure what made it unstick. I think its because i cleared cache in the recovery mode but, i didnt test that theory, i switched to apk.
The manual update option in the apk doesn't work properly, each time it tells me that current version is up to date. So the auto update is also useless.
I'll test the 4.92 version of KingRoot apk on the tablet and get back to you with the results. At the end of the day, i have no need for permanent root after I debloated the tablet.
KingRoot has its own thread here on the forums. You can ask them directly if you have any questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
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Here are all the builds of KingRoot you can download for you to play with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=9793#downloads
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Ran kingroot apk 4.9.2 and the root doesnt stick. Either you got lucky or you did something with supersu.
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I replied to this comment a while ago, so I thought. lol. You ever reply to something, hit submit, and come back later to find it not posted? grrr. Thank you for at least trying again. It wouldn't seem likely that by simply clearing the cache, root would get wiped. I almost want to try it myself. What I wrote was that I would, if possible, love to do a system dump, or whatever they call it, so a developer could take a look at how and why I have permanent root. That would be to say that a developer would be interested at all. Supersu just froze in the process, and I read it's because kingroot now patched it so it wouldn't remove their root. Would be cool to get supersu on it and maybe get a custom rom or two.
Get bootloader unlocked
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the bootloader is locked
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How would you go about getting the bootloader unlocked for the samsung galaxy tab 4 sm-t337a in order to flash a twrp file?
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How would you go about getting the bootloader unlocked for the samsung galaxy tab 4 sm-t337a in order to flash a twrp file?
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Ask at&t nicely.
According to what I've seen on a SM-G900A thread, the NewKingrootV4.81_C136_B245_xda_release_2016_02_29_105243.apk was the last revision that didn't block supersume from working properly.
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According to what I've seen on a SM-G900A thread, the NewKingrootV4.81_C136_B245_xda_release_2016_02_29_105243.apk was the last revision that didn't block supersume from working properly.
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I read that too, but you know what, it still doesn't work. I've found a zip file called Replace_Kinguser_with_SuperSU-v2.4 that works. What you do is install a power menu for root users first, then root with kingroot. Next, you install the replace kinguser zip using terminal emulator, which there are instructions online and on youtube on how to do it. Once you've replaced kingroot with supersu, quickly use the power menu app to do a soft reboot, as to avoid kingroot failure errors. DO NOT update the su binary. Only problem is, if you do regular reboot, or power off the tab, then power it back on, root is lost again. I have no idea how I got permanent root with kingroot, but I've lost it now while messing with things. I wish I would've tried to replace it with supersu this way when I had it just to see if it woul've still retained permanent root as well. Now what?!?! lol
I'll test the 4.92 version of KingRoot apk on the tablet and get back to you with the results. At the end of the day, i have no need for permanent root after I debloated the tablet.
KingRoot has its own thread here on the forums. You can ask them directly if you have any questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
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Here are all the builds of KingRoot you can download for you to play with.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=9793#downloads
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Ran kingroot apk 4.9.2 and the root doesnt stick. Either you got lucky or you did something with supersu.
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Hey man, old stuff, I know, but I thought this was interesting:
http://androidforums.com/threads/tutorial-how-to-root-the-sm-t337a-lollipop-with-kingroot.1100261/:
I'm not sure if he's saying to keep rebooting, and re-rooting until root sticks permanently, or to leave kingroot running without rebooting for a long time, and permanent root will sink in eventually. I think he means the second one, too leave it running without rebooting. On a sidenote, I have been able to use a replace kingroot with superuser 2.74 via terminal emulator with success, even after rooting with latest version kingroot. Updating supersu binary results in softbrick on reboot though. If you don't update user binary, and you reboot, you just lose root, is all. And sometimes the zip doesn't work, and it takes reboot, re-root with kingroot, then re-run terminal emulator. Flashfire doesn't like kingroot, but it opens up with supersu after this method. Not sure if it can actually flash zips though. Just thought I'd share my latest findings.
xjimmy said:
I'll test the 4.92 version of KingRoot apk on the tablet and get back to you with the results. At the end of the day, i have no need for permanent root after I debloated the tablet.
Thanks for the info. An interesting discovery! After going back and reading that guy's article again, I noticed that he posted a link to download kingroot. I was curious what version he used. It was 4.8.1 . When I tried downloading 4.8.1 from the xda link you gave me, it kept popping up with a network error. This time I downloaded 4.8.1 somewhere else and tried it. After root, I kept closing kingroot, swiping it clear in task manager, and re-opening it until it gave me the notice that it deployed itself as a system app. I then rebooted (not soft reboot) and it partially kept a permanent root this time. If I went into root checker, it would tell me no root, but other apps were popping up the grant permission tab. I'm sure I'll get root to stick permanently again, then I'll try to install supersu over it again, see if I can't get that as a permanent root. It's not the end of the world to me either, but it just drove me nuts not knowing how the hell I got it. Also, it's just fun to mess with stuff. lol. So in the chain of updates, 4.8.1 is right before 4.9.2, so I'm guessing that I probably got permanent root from 4.8.1 and then updated it, or possibly that I ran 4.8.1, updated, and maybe optimizing or running root again with 4.9.2 finished the job. Anyway, thanks for writing back!
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