Battery loads spontaneously? - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I loaded my TR101 yesterday to 99 or 100% ( tablet, undocked), disconnected it from the adapter, used it for some time, and then shut it off. The battery level was around 75% then.
This morning I started it again and the battery level was 98%! So it tells me it loaded in the night from 75 to 98% from thin air. No adapter connected. The dual battery widget shows this too: battery level went up from around 75 to 98.
Is thre any explanation for this? I suppose the battery level is not really 98, but what happened? I conbected the adapter, and the it starts loading to 100%.
I am no twaeker, so I did nothing unusual. I installed all the system updates Asus gave me. Now I have Android 4.0.1.
Any thoughts?
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If you docked it again once you shut it off then the dock would have charged it

*Detection* said:
If you docked it again once you shut it off then the dock would have charged it
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Yes, I know that the dock charges the tablet battery, but the tablet has not been docked for two days!
BTW: When I started the tablet (undocked) up again after two hours, the battery once more said that it was charged for 98%.
I then used it until the battery said it was charged for 31%. I wonder how the situation will be tomorrow.

First, wipe battery stats if you can. Second, empty it out completely (be careful about the 0% bug) then do a full charge.
Recommended battery use is always to empty it out completely then charge it completely. It'll extend its performance and lifetime.

How do I wipe my battery stats? I cannot find any control to do so. My tablet is not rooted btw.
Anyway: This morning when I started it up the battery icon was red and it shut down by itself (empty battery?), but when I started it up then with the adaptor the battery stood at 17%. This might have been the real status after several wrong indications yesterday, I suppose. Battery health is displayed as "good".
It only seems a matter of wrong indication. The battery last the normal time, it seems to me.
I will let it go to down now util just a few % and fully load it again then.
The reason why I normally shut the tablet completely down when I do not plan to use it for several hours, is that the battery drains when the tablet is 'sleeping', but when I shut it down completely it later starts up at the same level when I shut it down.
This sees to be an issue Asus had to solve (you could read about it all over the internet when I fist noticed it) but as usual Asus is only intrested in upgrading its latest models and soon abandons active support for what they consider "older" models.
However, I do not buy a new tablet every few months. I consider a tablet old after maybe 3 years or longer.
To continue the battery issue: Also, when I shut the tablet down when docked both battery levels have changed when I start it again. To avoid these battery annoyances I often shut it down.
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Well the battery stats part is debatable really, but you need root as far as I know, so you can ignore that part.
About the battery draining while sleeping, I've heard other people having that issue. Not sure if it was ever solved... I haven't had that issue.
Last case scenario would be to make sure it's not a software issue by doing a full factory reset with something like Easyflasher. Corrupted files happens, and there's no easy way to "fix" it. Make sure you backup all important data as easyflasher will completely wipe your device clean, but it's the best way to confirm it's a software-related issue.

Hi,
A cold reboot did it!
For those of you that are as afraid of a factory reset as I am: a cold reboot does not wipe any of your data. You press the 'on/off' button together with 'volume down' button for about 10 seconds. You will see some small print and some unfamiliar pics on your screen. Ignore everything, because a cold reboot is the default thing that will happen.
When your Transformer has booted after this, several things have changed for the better, including your battery indication.
If this instruction is not clear enough, google for 'cold reboot Transformer'.
For me it worked and I found it to be fool-proof.
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Powered Off / Battery Drain COMPLETE

I have now had this problem twice this week. I have read other posts that sound similar but the issue seems different.
Twice I have shut down my phone at night. With FULL battery. The next morning, I could not turn the phone on. It would vibrate when I hit power button but not come on at all.
Both times I plugged it in and saw that the battery was COMPLETELY drained. I have seen threads where people post about some battery drain overnight, but this was an entire drain, with the phone off.
This is a major issue obviously as both times the next morning I was on the go and had zero battery life.
Any ideas of what this can be? Does it sound like a physical battery issue? Is the phone maybe not actually shutting down and getting caught in some battery draining process?
Help please.
The best way to test the shutdown issue is pulling the battery after it seems to shut down. Try pulling it for a few seconds and replacing it, but leaving the device off. If that produces the same result, try leaving the battery out overnight.
This seems to only be happening if I leave the battery in the phone.
It happened again last night. Complete drain.
Im not sure but I feel like there may have been a buzz as it turned itself off (not sure if its always there need to experiment further). I picked it up and hit buttons to make sure it wasnt just in standby. It wasnt. it was OFF.
Next morning, no battery.
Any ideas? Id love some help as this is becoming a pretty big problem for me.
Have you ruled out a hardware issue already? If not then call the carrier.
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lirong said:
This seems to only be happening if I leave the battery in the phone.
It happened again last night. Complete drain.
Im not sure but I feel like there may have been a buzz as it turned itself off (not sure if its always there need to experiment further). I picked it up and hit buttons to make sure it wasnt just in standby. It wasnt. it was OFF.
Next morning, no battery.
Any ideas? Id love some help as this is becoming a pretty big problem for me.
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This actually happened to me a night before last as well - twas the first night running Smooth Ice 5.1. Are you on that by chance? Not knowledgeable enough to really comment on whether or not that could be it, but it'd be something to eliminate.
I switched to the new leak last night and the battery life has been excellent off charger all day, for what it's worth.
I am on stock everything.
I am still trying to diagnose the problem.
It seems that when I Power Off, occasionally at the end of the power done I will get a Vibrate. When that happens, I think it is draining while switched off.
When the Power Down happens and I dont feel the vibrate, so far I have not experienced the drain.
Does that perhaps give anyone ideas about what might be happening? Some kind of locked in Process or App? Any likely culprits? Any diagnostics that can show, if it does drain, what drained it?
In the past when it drained I plugged it in to charge and checked battery stats, but it showed Display as the largest consumer. Does the About Battery stats reset each time you plug in and start charging?
lirong said:
I am on stock everything.
I am still trying to diagnose the problem.
It seems that when I Power Off, occasionally at the end of the power done I will get a Vibrate. When that happens, I think it is draining while switched off.
When the Power Down happens and I dont feel the vibrate, so far I have not experienced the drain.
Does that perhaps give anyone ideas about what might be happening? Some kind of locked in Process or App? Any likely culprits? Any diagnostics that can show, if it does drain, what drained it?
In the past when it drained I plugged it in to charge and checked battery stats, but it showed Display as the largest consumer. Does the About Battery stats reset each time you plug in and start charging?
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It always vibrates when you power off, at least mine does.
The battery stats reset after a full charge has been achieved.
I have no idea what would be discharging it while off besides a bad battery.
Put the BetterBatteryStats application on there. The stock Battery Use GUI interface that is built into the firmware will not show you details enough, it will just show what application used the cpu for X amount and caused the battery to go down X amount.
Put BetterBatteryStats on there to find out what is causing the phone to get drained so quickly. Seems like its not going in deep sleep mode and there is some partial wakelock that is keeping the phone from going into deep sleep. That app will tell you what service or application is holding the largest wakelocks and amount of time it does it for. This helps to determine the issue. Without this, you are just speculating on the problem with the built in Battery Use stats/graph in the Status screen.
Dixit
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Put the BetterBatteryStats application on there. The stock Battery Use GUI interface that is built into the firmware will not show you details enough, it will just show what application used the cpu for X amount and caused the battery to go down X amount.
Put BetterBatteryStats on there to find out what is causing the phone to get drained so quickly. Seems like its not going in deep sleep mode and there is some partial wakelock that is keeping the phone from going into deep sleep. That app will tell you what service or application is holding the largest wakelocks and amount of time it does it for. This helps to determine the issue. Without this, you are just speculating on the problem with the built in Battery Use stats/graph in the Status screen.
Dixit
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He is talking about when his phone is powered off.
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He is talking about when his phone is powered off.
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Damn, then disregard my post. Thanks for clarifying it.
Dixit
Something else I noticed...
Over the last few data, sometimes when I power down the phone, it goes through the powering down process usual, but as soon as its done, the phone vibrates and powers right back on...
Anyone experience this or an idea why that would happen?
Just a thought; If I'm charging my phone with a generic charger (500 mA) and shut it off, it will reboot.
If I'm charging with either the factory wall charger or a 12 volt that triggers AC charge it won't.
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The reboot happens when I shut down and am not plugged in to a charger at all....
My galaxy S has been doing this too lately (loses all charge when off overnight). It always buzzes on shutdown.
One thing that mine has is a problem with the usb port, it slowly stopped working and now I can't charge it anymore through the port. I'm wondering if there is a physical short there that is causing the battery to drain. Possibly you have something similar going on, or a short elsewhere in the system.
I've noticed that you cannot shut the phone down when charging from certain chargers too, especially in the car. Very annoying.
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Hey guys,
Im still having this issue and wanted to hear if there is a known fix or solution?
Honestly, the severity of battery drain you're describing sounds lije more of a hardware issue than anything else. I would contact yoir carrier as mentioned above. Beyond that, trying out a custom ics like sky or embryo might be your best bet if you prefer the tw interface. Im on embryo 5.1 right now and am experiencing better battery health and longevity than ever before with the skyrocket. But the issue does sound like a bad battery.
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Same exact issue, but I have the t-mobile version.
Very weird!
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Same exact issue, but I have the t-mobile version.
Very weird!
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Warranty
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This happened to me on one of my i777s.
The phone would even not boot up. It will just vibrate. Turns out the battery was bad. Changed the battery. It was still the same.
Then tried another charger, same thing happened.
So then I changed the whole charging port part in the phone.
Voila! Phone worked like a charm.
So if you have warranty change the phone. If not change the charging port. At least in my case.
I came to a conclusion that even the battery went bad because of the bad charging. Might be a coincidence too.
zcexve said:
This happened to me on one of my i777s.
The phone would even not boot up. It will just vibrate. Turns out the battery was bad. Changed the battery. It was still the same.
Then tried another charger, same thing happened.
So then I changed the whole charging port part in the phone.
Voila! Phone worked like a charm.
So if you have warranty change the phone. If not change the charging port. At least in my case.
I came to a conclusion that even the battery went bad because of the bad charging. Might be a coincidence too.
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I have 3 S2 phones that I bought as defect and played around with. Two I could fix but I could not resolve the battery issue on the third phone like by buying a brandnew USB charger part (and trying the ones from the other 2 phones. It has nothing to do with the ROM or anything software either. I narrowed it down to be an issue on the actual mainboard. The weird thing is that the battery discharges way faster when the phone is turned off than when it's in use.

[Q] Battery Stuck at 100% for an hour, shuts off at 20%

Hey guys, i've seen some other threads about batteries being stuck at 100% but they were generally with rooted devices so i figured i'd make one here.
The Problem
My infinity will charge fine, usually 1% per minute and when discharging going from 100% to 35% in about 5 hours screen on time, mainly using web apps, no real gaming, maybe dead trigger for 20 mins per charge. However when i take my tab off the charger it will stay at 100% for over 45 mins, and most recently over 1h 20m, causing the battery reading to be way off. Today it randomly shut down claiming i had 20% left.
Does anyone have any ideas? Like i said device is non-rooted and i dont have much interest in rooting it. Problem started just before we got the Jelly Bean update, and i got the tab in mid august, so it was working fine for a couple months.
The next logical step would be to factory reset and contact asus if that doesn't solve anything. I was hoping to avoid that if you guys had any tips or tricks.
Thanks
My TF700T has just started doing this. So your not the only one. I've only just started to search around for a solution.
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Hey guys, i've seen some other threads about batteries being stuck at 100% but they were generally with rooted devices so i figured i'd make one here.
The Problem
My infinity will charge fine, usually 1% per minute and when discharging going from 100% to 35% in about 5 hours screen on time, mainly using web apps, no real gaming, maybe dead trigger for 20 mins per charge. However when i take my tab off the charger it will stay at 100% for over 45 mins, and most recently over 1h 20m, causing the battery reading to be way off. Today it randomly shut down claiming i had 20% left.
Does anyone have any ideas? Like i said device is non-rooted and i dont have much interest in rooting it. Problem started just before we got the Jelly Bean update, and i got the tab in mid august, so it was working fine for a couple months.
The next logical step would be to factory reset and contact asus if that doesn't solve anything. I was hoping to avoid that if you guys had any tips or tricks.
Thanks
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I suggest you make a backup then do a a factory reset (twice). After that check to make sure this issue is gone, before re install any apps. If this doesn't resolved the issue, you need to reflash the full Asus firmware. This eliminated your software issue, and the last 1% chance is your hardware.(but very rare).
buhohitr said:
I suggest you make a backup then do a a factory reset (twice). After that check to make sure this issue is gone, before re install any apps. If this doesn't resolved the issue, you need to reflash the full Asus firmware. This eliminated your software issue, and the last 1% chance is your hardware.(but very rare).
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I've done as you suggested. Including factory reseting the tablet twice.
I've had the tablet off the charger for 14 hours and 28 minutes. And it's still showing 100%...
Worth noting: It was fully charged with the dock this morning. I've taken the tablet off the dock and used it for the day and it's still 100%
Anyone else got any other suggestions?
Same problem here, started two days ago, the transformer shuts down at ˜33-35%. Installed battery monitor app and it reports ˜500mAh still availble just prior to the shutting down. After it shuts down it's dead until I plugg it the power chord, it charges to 100% but then the same story again, shutting down at 33-35% remaining battery left. I've tried the battery calibration app which deletes the batterystats.bin file but that didn't do anything. Also tried three factory resets without any success... I'm on stock ROM but rooted.
Any ideas to what to try now? Or should I wait for the next firmware upgrade and see if the reflashing of the firmware will resolve this?
How do I reflash the installed firmware version, want to try that next...
dbuc said:
Same problem here, started two days ago, the transformer shuts down at ˜33-35%. Installed battery monitor app and it reports ˜500mAh still availble just prior to the shutting down. After it shuts down it's dead until I plug it the power chord, it charges to 100% but then the same story again, shutting down at 33-35% remaining battery left. I've tried the battery calibration app which deletes the batterystats.bin file but that didn't do anything. Also tried three factory resets without any success... I'm on stock ROM but rooted.
Any ideas to what to try now? Or should I wait for the next firmware upgrade and see if the reflashing of the firmware will resolve this?
How do I reflash the installed firmware version, want to try that next...
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What do your power saver settings show under settings?
Mine are at 10%
Have you factory reset your tablet recently?
Thats OK said:
What do your power saver settings show under settings?
Mine are at 10%
Have you factory reset your tablet recently?
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Everything in power saver settings is left default, 15%. But the transformer never reaches that level..
Oh, and I also have the same behaivor as the orginator of this thread, the battery shows 100% for good while after a full charge until it stops dropping, forgot to mention that. My tablet is four month old and this just started... Unfortunaltey is feels like a HW issue with the battery reporting the wrong remaining charge to the OS... But I will wait for a new firmware to see if a reflash resets the battery configuration somehow.
dbuc said:
Everything in power saver settings is left default, 15%. But the transformer never reaches that level..
Oh, and I also have the same behaivor as the orginator of this thread, the battery shows 100% for good while after a full charge until it stops dropping, forgot to mention that. My tablet is four month old and this just started... Unfortunaltey is feels like a HW issue with the battery reporting the wrong remaining charge to the OS... But I will wait for a new firmware to see if a reflash resets the battery configuration somehow.
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My TF700 shut down at 25% battery today. I think it's time to contact ASUS to see what they can do.
BlueChan said:
My TF700 shut down at 25% battery today. I think it's time to contact ASUS to see what they can do.
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Try to poweroff your device and let it stay down for 1/2 hrs, then power it back on see if that resolved your issue.
You need to recalibrate the battery.
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Try to poweroff your device and let it stay down for 1/2 hrs, then power it back on see if that resolved your issue.
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This is what I did. except I left it plugged in over night, then unplugged it, turned it on and it is back to normal.
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Try to poweroff your device and let it stay down for 1/2 hrs, then power it back on see if that resolved your issue.
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I tried this to no avail. Worth noting the device was off for about 5 hours when the battery went flat. I've also tried turning it off and charging it.
I have a TF700 on a TF300 dock, and I have found that if I unplug the tablet from the dock, while the dock is plugged into the wall, it stays at that battery level until I plug it back into the keyboard. Deleting batterystats.bin, turning it off, waiting long enough for it to get to 8.4V, and then doing a cold boot seems to fix it.

[Q] Battery issue (I think?)

So, my tablet fully died today, 0% battery on tablet and dock, and now when I plug in the tablet the screen comes on and off showing the battery with one red bar, is this normal and if not what should I do?
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So, my tablet fully died today, 0% battery on tablet and dock, and now when I plug in the tablet the screen comes on and off showing the battery with one red bar, is this normal and if not what should I do?
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Perfectly normal. It means that the tablet doesn't have enough power to boot up yet, give it ten minutes to get at least 15%. It should boot up automatically after that,
LOL. I've made the mistake of letting mine run all the way down twice. The 1st time it scared the tar out of me and I thought I was going to have to send it back to Asus because it wouldn't come back on after I plugged it in LOL. After letting it charge for about 15 minutes it booted right up. It did the same thing the 2nd time I ran it all the way down too. Even though I know it will boot back up after sitting on the charger for a little bit, I still watch my battery level very closely now. It's a bad feeling when I press the power button and nothing happens!!
Has anyone else experienced very short battery life after the last update? Used to be that if I didn't use my tablet for a week it would only lose like 10% now it goes to 0 in 2 days even if it isn't touched. Only started after the last update. I'm thinking I should do a factory reset just to see if that settles things out.
Or does anyone know of any good battery monitors that can tell you what was sucking all the juice before is died?

[Q] Strange Batteryproblem

Hi
Yesterday I was using my TF700 (with CROMi-Xenogenesis 4.6.5) to surf the web while I was watching E3 and suddenly it just died.
I tried to start it but nothing happened.
I plugged in my charger and after a few minutes in I was able to boot it.
The battery said that I had 70% left, so I unplugged the charger and continued using it.
A few min later my pad died once more and I couldn't boot it up without the charger and when I finally booted it up it said I had 70% battery left.
So, I once more plugged my charger in and kept it until it reached 100% and I downloaded a battery calibration app and after that I went to bed with the pad in my dock
Today my cat played a mouse catching game for about an hour in performance mode and the highest screen brightness and now my pad still shows 100% batter left? I also booted up in TWRP 2.5.0.0 and it also said that I had 100% battery left, the same goes for when I do a coold-boot.
Is there anyway to do a real battery calibration or any tips on how to solve it?
This was the Battery Calibration app I was using.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result
If you search the forum there is literally everything and anything you need to know about the battery, and even fixing this specific problem.
How to search
At the top, see "search this thread" and then above that "search all forums". Use the second one.
XDA search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Battery level inaccurate
Google search
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=TF700T+battery+meter+is+inaccurate
I had this issue... no way to fix other then completely draining the battery and leaving it that way for several days / weeks until it decides to work again.

[Q] Battery or charger at fault?

I have a locked & unrooted WW TF700 & genuine dock on JB 4.2.1.
A week ago I started to notice an issue where the tab would constantly drain whilst it should have been asleep. Overnight it would loose ~30% instead of ~2%. I tried a few settings, but couldn't seem to solve it. I decided to do a factory reset because I haven't done one since I last upgraded to jelly bean. That appears to have cured that problem, but has created two more.
The first problem is that I can't seem to charge the tab over 81% when being charged directly. If I then plug it into a fully charged dock it will charge to 90% but no more, even with the charging cable in the dock.
The second problem is that the tab now decides to shut off at about 30% battery left. It won't shutdown as normal, just go blank and won't boot up again without being charged a little first. I have read threads about artificially overcharging the tab, but a symptom of that is the battery level will remain at 100% for hours before starting to drain normally. My tab won't charge to 100% and will start to drain immediately after removing the charging cable. Regardless I have tried to drain and recharge overnight with the tab both off and on but the tab won't charge past 76% overnight in either case. Restarting multiple times doesn't help at all.
For the first issue I started to suspect the charger may be at fault. This is because if I charge the tab directly, it will never get past 81%. However, if I then plug it into the freshly charged dock it will charge upto 90%. I understand that the dock will never charge the tab past 90%, unless it is plugged into the charger. Does it assume in my case that it isn't plugged in to a charger even when it is? I should mention I am using the original asus charger. Frustratingly I can't just use my phone charger to see if it solves the problem due to the 15v of the asus charger. I have noticed a slight hum/buzz coming from the charger but I can't be sure that it didn't do that before. I have had issues with the internal connections not be pushed together quite right before and getting no charge out of it, but 'clicking it together' a bit more firmly did the trick there.
Even with an overnight charge, plugged into the dock to get it to 90% I now get terrible battery life. Roughly 30mins per 10% juice. Previously I was getting around an hour per 10%.
Does anyone have an suggestions for me on how to eliminate the charger as a problem, or say doing another factory reset on a 'full charge'? The only other thing I can think of is to let it drain, give it enough charger to turn back on, then turn it off and leave it unplugged overnight (I saw it mentioned in another thread). I really appreciate any help you can give before I have to try the dreaded warranty route!
Try this with it undocked. Let the battery discharge to zero, and leave it 24 hours.
Then recharge it fully. This seems to cure the battery calibration memory issues.most us know how you get on.
Luckily I have located an Asus charger to borrow and hopefully find out if it is just my charger or not.
I also tried out CPU-Z and the battery is reporting as only having 7mV. I'm sure that can't be correct as my HOX+ is around 3500mV, and 7mV just couldn't power anything. I don't know if this is just CPU-Z issue with reporting correctly, or a clue that there is something not right with my battery? Has anyone else tried CPU-Z or know what the mV should be roughly, fully charged say?
Unfortunately a different charger didn't solve my issue :'(
I've posted a screenshot to show what is happening. I'll try draining the battery flat and leaving 24 hours to see what happens then. Luckily I still have two months left on warranty.
Pretty annoying because everything else the tablet does is fantastic. I replaced my laptop with it and use it daily for everything.
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Unfortunately things have become worse. I tried using the tab until it died (at around 50% battery this time...) and left for 24 hours as suggested. Unfortunately now I can't get the tab to turn on or take a charge at all. I have tried holding power button down, with vol up/down, for over a minute etc. Tried the reset button all numerous times with no luck. All I get is the LED blink twice when pressing the power button and this only happens when the charger is connected, otherwise nothing.
I have the phone number for Asus support and will be giving them a call tomorrow. I'm so glad I never unlocked my device!
Gudders said:
Unfortunately things have become worse. I tried using the tab until it died (at around 50% battery this time...) and left for 24 hours as suggested. Unfortunately now I can't get the tab to turn on or take a charge at all. I have tried holding power button down, with vol up/down, for over a minute etc. Tried the reset button all numerous times with no luck. All I get is the LED blink twice when pressing the power button and this only happens when the charger is connected, otherwise nothing.
I have the phone number for Asus support and will be giving them a call tomorrow. I'm so glad I never unlocked my device!
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Leave it for 24 hours not on charge first then try again. We've seen this happen so many times - the fix is to let it discharge completely.
sbdags said:
Leave it for 24 hours not on charge first then try again. We've seen this happen so many times - the fix is to let it discharge completely.
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Thanks Sbdags, I appreciate your response. I've read numerous threads tonight with similar issues. I did try leaving the tab for 24 hours completely dead overnight last night. I'll try it again (I don't know if the battery is dead or not currently) but I'll leave it unplugged as there is nothing else for me to do with it anyway!
OK, I thought I would complete this thread.
After leaving my tablet for a few more days not on charge I could seem to get no life out of it whatsoever so went down the RMA route and the result of that is in the following thread;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45065793#post45065793
Gudders.:crying:

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