[Q] is being able to "fix permission" (using TWRP) important? - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

When I had the One X tegra3 (my first Android phone), someone wrote that he always "fix permission" (using recovery) after restoring apps using Titanium and never had a problem.
So I guess I'm wondering if "fix permission" is really an important step when restoring app backups.
Thanks!

fix permissions in twrp can help problems, i can rarely get it to work always get twrp soft reboots. sometimes i'll wipe cache and dalvik first then try to fix permissions and it'll soft reboot, or i'll have to mount/unmount cache,data,system and try again. i haven't found a sure fire way for twrp to fix permissions anymore.

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[Q] Device unusable after undoing 'integrate sys Dalvik into ROM'

I was trying to install pDroid (following this thread) and as it asked to undo the "integrated sys Dalvik into ROM" with Titanium Backup (TB), I did. When I did that, TB asked me to restart and I chose yes.
Now when I boot my device (HTC Explorer), it goes in an infinite loop of booting without any success. Can anyone help me just get it working again? I don't really wish to install pDroid anymore I guess.
PS: my device is rooted.
Problem solved
I was able to fix the problem by getting JaggyROM on my device. The downside was that I couldn't backup my contacts (since the device wouldn't boot up) but that ain't a biggie.
Btw, the version of Titanium Backup I was using, had problems with undoing integration of Dalvik, however it was fixed in the newer versions. I hope nobody gets into the same mess I got into.

[Q] Adfree java.io.IOException Error on Samsung Admire

Hi, I have a Samsung Admire and have been using Adfree perfectly fine before. However, after upgrading Android from 2.3.4 to 2.3.6 to fix the WIFI error, I can't seem to get Adfree to work again.
I get the following error message when trying to install the Hosts:
java.io.IOException: Error running exec(). Command: [su] Working Directory: null Environment: null
How do I get this app to work again?
Uninstall & reinstall. Try to clear cache & dalvik cache in recovery. Worst case scenario, I think, is to wipe everything and install from scratch.
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Uninstall & reinstall. Try to clear cache & dalvik cache in recovery. Worst case scenario, I think, is to wipe everything and install from scratch.
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I tried uninstalling, reinstalling, and wiping cache in recovery before, but to no avail. I didn't try wiping dalvik cache before. After uninstalling, wiping out cache and dalvik cache in recovery, and reinstalling, the error is still there.
I am not sure what you mean by "wipe everything and install from scratch". I would understand how to do that if it was on my PC, but not on my smartphone.
By that I meant, as a last-resort option, to completely wipe everything as if you're gonna flash a new ROM. Format everything through recovery, flash ROM, kernel (if applicable), gapps, whatever else. Then set up your google acct. & restore apps from titanium backup, or reinstall all apps from scratch.
BTW, you shouldn't restore Adfree, it should definitely be installed fresh from Google Play.
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By that I meant, as a last-resort option, to completely wipe everything as if you're gonna flash a new ROM. Format everything through recovery, flash ROM, kernel (if applicable), gapps, whatever else. Then set up your google acct. & restore apps from titanium backup, or reinstall all apps from scratch.
BTW, you shouldn't restore Adfree, it should definitely be installed fresh from Google Play.
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As much as I would like to give your method a try, it seems too complicated to do. First of all, I never format my phone before. Even though I know how to format a PC, doing the same thing on the phone seems to be new and unfamiliar to me.
Second of all, it seems to be quite a lot of troubles just to fix that error. I wonder if there is a manual method of removing the ads.
Ok, just to be sure you don't have a problem with su, go into the Superuser app, check for updates, and force an update even if there's no new version (it also makes sure the file has the proper permissions).
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Ok, just to be sure you don't have a problem with su, go into the Superuser app, check for updates, and force an update even if there's no new version (it also makes sure the file has the proper permissions).
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Yay! That was the problem. Thank you so much! Wow, AdFree app didn't get rid of most of the ads as it used to, but oh, well...it is better than nothing.

deleting system apps in recovery keeps them in running os

I want to switch from supersu to superuser, and having an interesting problem that supersu somehow covered up. I have a Nexus 5x running the stock rom. With every months upgrade I would flash using fastboot, go into twrp recovery before first full boot and remove a bunch of unneeded applications in /system/app. When I would boot up those applications would be gone. Somehow this isn't the case with superuser. I can still go into recovery and remove them, but when I boot up all the applications are still in /system/app. If I go back into twrp they are still shown as being missing. I've tried installing es file explorer, but it's unable to delete the applications once the system is up. remounting /system doesn't work either. Any help?
Unrooting supersu caused all the applications to come back; so does supersu not really delete them either, but somehow prevents them from showing up following the recovery scheme or something?
bsd1101 said:
I want to switch from supersu to superuser, and having an interesting problem that supersu somehow covered up. I have a Nexus 5x running the stock rom. With every months upgrade I would flash using fastboot, go into twrp recovery before first full boot and remove a bunch of unneeded applications in /system/app. When I would boot up those applications would be gone. Somehow this isn't the case with superuser. I can still go into recovery and remove them, but when I boot up all the applications are still in /system/app. If I go back into twrp they are still shown as being missing. I've tried installing es file explorer, but it's unable to delete the applications once the system is up. remounting /system doesn't work either. Any help?
Unrooting supersu caused all the applications to come back; so does supersu not really delete them either, but somehow prevents them from showing up following the recovery scheme or something?
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You aren't doing something right or you don't have something setup correctly. With root, you should be able to unintelligible them completely.
When you removed them, did you wipe cache and dalvik/ART cache before rebooting? If not then the system probably still thinks they are there because they still have data loaded into cache.
I recommend sticking with SuperSU, superuser doesn't work as well as SuperSU
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I've been googling a bit more. As it turns out there are two system partitions for nougat; in nexus 5x and some other devices apparently. This became more apparent when the file recovery-from-boot.p; which I rename in order to prevent recovery from being overwritten is not renamed when booting the OS. Nougat apparently pulls the system files from somewhere else. So whatever Chainfire did makes it boot the same partition as visible in recovery. Fully unrooting brings all those apps/system partition back. Haven't been able to find a good post that tells me how to to circumvent this without SuperSU; or exactly how this works.

How I fixed my bootloop problem without any format / data loss

Hello everyone, I was able to fix my bootloop occuring after flashing a zip on magisk, without any data loss. I wanted to share what I did to fix since it may be helpful for others. It is useful method worth trying if you know what caused the bootloop. It is definitely not a universal method of fixing bootloops or anything, but If you have a similar problem, you can try these steps.
The bootloop happened after I flashed a zip on Magisk that I downloaded using EdXposed Manager app. I remember downloading the latest alpha version zip and flashing it using Magisk (I had already had the riru core and riru edxposed modules installed on Magisk but on Edxposed manager app, it was showing some error, so I also flashed the zip that I downloaded using the app. I think this caused the bootloop somehow. ) I had no backups.
(I had also "unable to mount /data" problem on TWRP, I am explaining how I fixed that also, if you don't have the problem, you can skip this paragraph)
My TWRP version was 3.2.1.0. And when I was in recovery mode, I was getting "unable to mount /data" error. This is actually a well-known error, but I was able to fix it without a format by just updating my TWRP to 3.3.1.0. After the update, somehow, internal storage could be mounted and everything was fine. My goal by trying to fix this problem is to be able to have a backup using TWRP (using backup feature on TWRP) (just make sure that you didn't choose the compression option on options tab of TWRP backup page).
If you don't have "unable to mount data" problem at all, just make a TWRP backup. (just make sure that you didn't choose the compression option on options tab of TWRP backup page).
So, after having a TWRP backup of everything (actually just System and Data backup would also be fine), I tried to edit my backup files to fix the problem that caused the bootloop.
I changed 2 things in my backup files (you can edit the backup files ending with .win001 etc using 7zip on windows or anything similar. since the backup files are not compressed, you can just delete files) (I edited only the "Data" backup files due to my specific problem, but if your problem is something different, you may have to edit different files also):
1) I deleted everything about EDXposed manager(com.xx.edxposedmanager files) (It might have nothing to do with the fix, I am not sure)
2) In one of the data backup files (probably in the last one), there is a folder called "adb". In adb, there is a "modules" folder. I deleted riru core and riru edxmanager folders in modules.
After these steps, I restored "Data" and "System" using TWRP restore. Bootloop is fixed without any data loss.
If your bootloop is caused by something different, (the point I am trying to tell is) you can edit the nandroid backup files if you know the root of the problem and maybe fix your phone. When I was editing the backup files, I had no hope. As I said, I think this method is worth trying.
I Found this to be true. I also don't see the reason to reflash everything to fix a problem. Thank you for this tutrorial this is an undocumented tactic and i don't know why. Before i discovered this type of surgery i operated under the assumtion that android must be different from other operating systems in some way which would make this impossible. But like you i delved deeper and discovered that this is like a dark art the devs keep to themselves because of what ever but it works. I like this type of post and usually aside from asking for help or a little feed back this is the only type of post i ever make. I mean how do you expect people to learn how to do anything if you never teach them anything useful. EX: "You didn't do it exactly right from the beginning because if left out one thing in my tutorial so you would fail now erase everything and start over." "I only did that to teach you to backup" such bull ****! Thanks again for fighting the good fight.

Uninstalled Updates to Android System Intelligence and Now Stuck in Infinite Boot?

Hi, I'm kinda at my wit's end with this problem that I'm currently facing and would very much appreciate some help. For some background, I'm on a Oneplus 7 Pro running stock firmware (OOS 11.0.7.1). I originally was planning on installing a Magisk module to spoof my device (Pixelify) to gain Pixel features. I noticed that one of the features was patching over the Android System Intelligence. It didn't work out the way I was expecting and I decided to uninstall the module. That went fine, but I wanted to make sure I was on the correct version of Android System Intelligence as well, so afterwards, I went into settings and "uninstalled all updates" to the app, which I assumed would have reset that particular app back to the version that originally shipped with the device.
Now, here's where the problem began. I restarted my device and I ended up sitting on the boot animation screen for over 20 mins. At that point, I knew something was wrong as it still hadn't booted into the system yet. I went into TWRP and decided to do a full reflash of the ROM (without wiping my data) and reflashed magisk as well. No luck either, still stuck at the infinite boot. So I went a step further and dirty flashed again without reinstalling magisk to see if it might have been any other modules not playing nice. Of course, that didn't work either and I'm still currently bootlooping. It's been going for the past 3 hours now...
In any case, would anyone have any suggestions on what I can do without doing a full wipe? I have access to TWRP and decrypting works fine. All of my files seem intact at the moment and from what I see, the ROM is has installed mostly fine, just something is causing it to hang during boot. Is there any way I can view the code running in the background during boot to see what's causing it to hang? Or maybe some other potential solution that I could try?
HunterBlade said:
Hi, I'm kinda at my wit's end with this problem that I'm currently facing and would very much appreciate some help. For some background, I'm on a Oneplus 7 Pro running stock firmware (OOS 11.0.7.1). I originally was planning on installing a Magisk module to spoof my device (Pixelify) to gain Pixel features. I noticed that one of the features was patching over the Android System Intelligence. It didn't work out the way I was expecting and I decided to uninstall the module. That went fine, but I wanted to make sure I was on the correct version of Android System Intelligence as well, so afterwards, I went into settings and "uninstalled all updates" to the app, which I assumed would have reset that particular app back to the version that originally shipped with the device.
Now, here's where the problem began. I restarted my device and I ended up sitting on the boot animation screen for over 20 mins. At that point, I knew something was wrong as it still hadn't booted into the system yet. I went into TWRP and decided to do a full reflash of the ROM (without wiping my data) and reflashed magisk as well. No luck either, still stuck at the infinite boot. So I went a step further and dirty flashed again without reinstalling magisk to see if it might have been any other modules not playing nice. Of course, that didn't work either and I'm still currently bootlooping. It's been going for the past 3 hours now...
In any case, would anyone have any suggestions on what I can do without doing a full wipe? I have access to TWRP and decrypting works fine. All of my files seem intact at the moment and from what I see, the ROM is has installed mostly fine, just something is causing it to hang during boot. Is there any way I can view the code running in the background during boot to see what's causing it to hang? Or maybe some other potential solution that I could try?
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When you removed the magisk module and uninstalled the updates, did you boot into TWRP and wipe your cache and dalvik cache(but not factory reset or wipe data partition)? If you didn't wipe cache or dalvik, try booting into TWRP and wipe cache and dalvik cache(but DO NOT factory reset). To wipe cache and dalvik cache, boot into TWRP and sekect the Wipe option, then select "advanced wipes", you'll see a list of partitions, select only the cache and dalvik partitions(do not select any other partitions) then swipe the slider to initiate the wipe, when it finishes, reboot your device, it might take 10 or 20 minutes to boot because it has to rebuild the cache and dalvik cache with the new changes that you've made.
Generally, when making changes to the system partition, booting into recovery after making the changes and wiping cache is required in order for the device to load the system with the changes that were made instead of continiung to load cached data from before the changes were made, this tends to cause issues because the device is loading cached data that it can't use or understand anymore. Also, reflashing your ROM without wiping cache and dalvik cache would not solve this issue. You should do this any time you add/remove/modify/delete/uninstall/edit anything at all in the system partition, even if you only changed one tiny thing, you still need to boot into recovery then wipe cache and dalvik cache then reboot to apply the changes. This is not required when changing things in the user partition but it is absolutely vital that you do it when changing anything involved in the system partition.
Droidriven said:
When you removed the magisk module and uninstalled the updates, did you boot into TWRP and wipe your cache and dalvik cache(but not factory reset or wipe data partition)? If you didn't wipe cache or dalvik, try booting into TWRP and wipe cache and dalvik cache(but DO NOT factory reset). To wipe cache and dalvik cache, boot into TWRP and sekect the Wipe option, then select "advanced wipes", you'll see a list of partitions, select only the cache and dalvik partitions(do not select any other partitions) then swipe the slider to initiate the wipe, when it finishes, reboot your device, it might take 10 or 20 minutes to boot because it has to rebuild the cache and dalvik cache with the new changes that you've made.
Generally, when making changes to the system partition, booting into recovery after making the changes and wiping cache is required in order for the device to load the system with the changes that were made instead of continiung to load cached data from before the changes were made, this tends to cause issues because the device is loading cached data that it can't use or understand anymore. Also, reflashing your ROM without wiping cache and dalvik cache would not solve this issue. You should do this any time you add/remove/modify/delete/uninstall/edit anything at all in the system partition, even if you only changed one tiny thing, you still need to boot into recovery then wipe cache and dalvik cache then reboot to apply the changes. This is not required when changing things in the user partition but it is absolutely vital that you do it when changing anything involved in the system partition.
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Thanks for the response! Unfortunately, I already wiped the dalvik cache after I reflashed my ROM yesterday and it didn't end up being able to boot. Since the OnePlus 7 Pro is an a/b device, there's no other cache partition to wipe.
I ended up leaving it to run on the boot animation screen until it ran out of battery (just to see what would happen). Besides for the phone becoming burning hot to the touch, it just stayed at that screen for another hour or 2 before it finally ran out of battery. This leads me to believe that it's definitely doing something in the background at that time, but just not sure what.
Edit: Just for some extra context, I also created a flashable zip of the latest OEM version of the Android System Intelligence APK and flashed it to system/app through twrp. Since I'm not able to boot to unlock my device, I thought this was the only way to install the app. In any case, it didn't make a difference either. Not sure if this means maybe the APK wasn't the issue or if this just didn't install the app the way I was expecting. No error codes when flashing the zip though.
HunterBlade said:
Thanks for the response! Unfortunately, I already wiped the dalvik cache after I reflashed my ROM yesterday and it didn't end up being able to boot. Since the OnePlus 7 Pro is an a/b device, there's no other cache partition to wipe.
I ended up leaving it to run on the boot animation screen until it ran out of battery (just to see what would happen). Besides for the phone becoming burning hot to the touch, it just stayed at that screen for another hour or 2 before it finally ran out of battery. This leads me to believe that it's definitely doing something in the background at that time, but just not sure what.
Edit: Just for some extra context, I also created a flashable zip of the latest OEM version of the Android System Intelligence APK and flashed it to system/app through twrp. Since I'm not able to boot to unlock my device, I thought this was the only way to install the app. In any case, it didn't make a difference either. Not sure if this means maybe the APK wasn't the issue or if this just didn't install the app the way I was expecting. No error codes when flashing the zip though.
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Use TWRP to create a backup of your device in its current state, then try to extract the data from the backup, if the data is intact, it can be restored once you get the device working. If your data is intact in the backup, you can do a full system and data wipe via TWRP then reflash your ROM then restore the data that you want restored. This "should" get you back to where you want to be. Be careful, be certain of what you do at every step or you may end up losing data or not being able to get it to work while at the same time be able to keep your previous data.
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Use TWRP to create a backup of your device in its current state, then try to extract the data from the backup, if the data is intact, it can be restored once you get the device working. If your data is intact in the backup, you can do a full system and data wipe via TWRP then reflash your ROM then restore the data that you want restored. This "should" get you back to where you want to be. Be careful, be certain of what you do at every step or you may end up losing data or not being able to get it to work while at the same time be able to keep your previous data.
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Just finished backing up my data through TWRP and and did a full reformat of my device. After reflashing my ROM, I was back up and running! So thanks for the tip! However, after restoring the data partition, I realized that the issue was with the data partition specifically rather than on the system side as I had the same problem again. So I cleared the data partition again but kept data/media (internal storage) intact, and just like that, the device booted just fine this time.
Would you have any suggestions on what I could do to to troubleshoot the data partition? I have some important app info that I need to get the data back from.
Or if not, do you know how to capture logs from a failed boot?
HunterBlade said:
Just finished backing up my data through TWRP and and did a full reformat of my device. After reflashing my ROM, I was back up and running! So thanks for the tip! However, after restoring the data partition, I realized that the issue was with the data partition specifically rather than on the system side as I had the same problem again. So I cleared the data partition again but kept data/media (internal storage) intact, and just like that, the device booted just fine this time.
Would you have any suggestions on what I could do to to troubleshoot the data partition? I have some important app info that I need to get the data back from.
Or if not, do you know how to capture logs from a failed boot?
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Logs from logcat do not persist through reboot. You need to look at your last_kmsg file, kmsg persists after reboot and it should capture the issue. If you have important app data, it should have been stored in data/media in your Android/(name of app) folder and your apps should be in data/data/app folder.
In the future, I recommend booting into TWRP and creating a backup before you make any kind of changes to your device, then, if the change causes an issue you can just boot into TWRP and restore the backup, this will put you back to what you had right before you made the change. Then you can troubleshoot what caused the issue and find a solution to how to apply your change without causing the issue again.
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Logs from logcat do not persist through reboot. You need to look at your last_kmsg file, kmsg persists after reboot and it should capture the issue. If you have important app data, it should have been stored in data/media in your Android/(name of app) folder and your apps should be in data/data/app folder.
In the future, I recommend booting into TWRP and creating a backup before you make any kind of changes to your device, then, if the change causes an issue you can just boot into TWRP and restore the backup, this will put you back to what you had right before you made the change. Then you can troubleshoot what caused the issue and find a solution to how to apply your change without causing the issue again.
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Yeah, lesson learned with that. I'm just glad I was able to backup my data in TWRP, which means I should theoretically be able to extract them back out again if I really need them. But back to the topic, I did check my last_kmsg file and it was unfortunately empty.
What I did do though was since I still have access to my recovery, I pushed my PC's adb keys to my device to be able to execute the command and grab a logcat during boot.
Could you by any chance take a look at the file (it's a onedrive preview link) to see if you might be able to notice the issue? I'm going into the territory of Googling everything and I was just completely lost when I looked at the file as I have no idea which errors actually matter and which ones don't. Thanks in advance!
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Yeah, lesson learned with that. I'm just glad I was able to backup my data in TWRP, which means I should theoretically be able to extract them back out again if I really need them. But back to the topic, I did check my last_kmsg file and it was unfortunately empty.
What I did do though was since I still have access to my recovery, I pushed my PC's adb keys to my device to be able to execute the command and grab a logcat during boot.
Could you by any chance take a look at the file (it's a onedrive preview link) to see if you might be able to notice the issue? I'm going into the territory of Googling everything and I was just completely lost when I looked at the file as I have no idea which errors actually matter and which ones don't. Thanks in advance.
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Too many errors for me to volunteer my time to figure out.
All I can say is, at each line that reports an error, it states the error then lists the service(s) or app(s) that are involved in or effected by that error, everything listed after the error all the way down the list to the next error are related to that error.
Do a Google search for each error and the name of the package that immediately follows that error.
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Too many errors for me to volunteer my time to figure out.
All I can say is, at each line that reports an error, it states the error then lists the service(s) or app(s) that are involved in or effected by that error, everything listed after the error all the way down the list to the next error are related to that error.
Do a Google search for each error and the name of the package that immediately follows that error.
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No worries, totally understandable. I think Titanium Backup might actually be my saving grace, as it's able to read TWRP files as well. So all I have to do is run my backup through that and have it directly restore my data. In any case, appreciate the advice you've given so far!
you might probably found a fix but you're supposed to put the other os in the internal storage and not the micro sd card since it wont detect bootable drives just like on a pc and if u didnt install the os on the sd card then you can search for a boot unlocker which can unlock your phone from the infinite boot based on your phone and os
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