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Will Nexus S Unlocked bootloader and custom kernel update OTA to ICS when it's out?

My gf got a Nexus S last month and loves it! She just needs BLN to work... so we unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom Kernel (Matr1x I believe). Will the OTA come through? If so, will it wipe out anything like CWR or the unlocked bootloader? I saw Matr1x already released a ver for ICS so it would be an easy install...
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danifunker said:
My gf got a Nexus S last month and loves it! She just needs BLN to work... so we unlocked the bootloader and installed a custom Kernel (Matr1x I believe). Will the OTA come through? If so, will it wipe out anything like CWR or the unlocked bootloader? I saw Matr1x already released a ver for ICS so it would be an easy install...
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No it wont update.
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thegtfusion said:
No it wont update.
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How would I go about updating the device? She's pretty excited for ICS.

It will fail the verifying stage of the update. All the original files of the previous version of the update your flashing needs to be there.

snandlal said:
It will fail the verifying stage of the update. All the original files of the previous version of the update your flashing needs to be there.
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So if I restore the Kernel (I'm not sure how I would go about doing that though, can someone provide instructions? ) would it apply the update at that point? Or do I need to re-lock the bootloader? Relocking would be a pain........

danifunker said:
So if I restore the Kernel (I'm not sure how I would go about doing that though, can someone provide instructions? ) would it apply the update at that point? Or do I need to re-lock the bootloader? Relocking would be a pain........
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If you have a nand backup of stock restore it, Otherwise download one of the stock roms from here and flash it in recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1063664

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It will fail the verifying stage of the update. All the original files of the previous version of the update your flashing needs to be there.
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That depends on what kind of update it will be ... The update from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 on my i9023 nexus was a full rom and could be flashed without a problem.
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Go back to latest available stock version. (Rooted with Superuser.apk in /system/app is OK) & Keep your Custom Recovery or reflash it.
Put a Superuser flashable zip on your sdcard.
When you have the OTA update.zip somewhere on your sdcard ( Copied from /cache) boot into custom recovery
Flash update.zip manually and directly after it flashes, flash the Superuser.zip right on top of update.
Wipe /cache
Reboot
Download Joeykrim's flash_image gui from the market.
Place custom-recovery.img on root of sdcard. (Rename it to recovery.img)
Flash custom recovery in flash_image gui
Change permissions of /system/etc/install-recovery.sh & /system/recovery-from-boot.p to "000"

I would just wait till ics is out and then youll find a flashable .zip here on xda and you can just flash that like you did with the matr1x kernel... not shure if full wipe would be nescesary but if yes then you can backup your apps through titanium or sth similar!
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Edit: what i actually wanted to say that theres no need to go back to stock now because you can get the update over xda and just flash that!

while we're on the topic....would editing the build.prop keep an OTA from installing? For example, LCD density??

Why not just wait like one day for someone to post a rooted stock ICS rom? I am sure one of our wonderful devs here will be all over it. It will probably show up in one of those REF threads pretty quickly. Then you don't have to mess around with setting root up again. That's what I always did with my EVO Shift so I'll probably do it with this phone as well.

If you hadn't modified your build.prop or removed system apps, you'll just need to flash the stock kernel. Theres no need to flash the whole stock Rom.

What if your bootloader is unlocked and nothing else. Will it get the OTA?

Question since we on the subject when will ics be released for our phones or is it still unknown as to when is gonna be released?
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cpaixao said:
If you hadn't modified your build.prop or removed system apps, you'll just need to flash the stock kernel. Theres no need to flash the whole stock Rom.
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That's exactly what I was looking for... but where would I find the stock Kernel and can I overwrite it while the system is in use? I downloaded the entire stock ROM for her phone so I should have the file somewhere in one of the IMG files (yes, I have mounted them before in Windows)
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danifunker said:
That's exactly what I was looking for... but where would I find the stock Kernel and can I overwrite it while the system is in use? I downloaded the entire stock ROM for her phone so I should have the file somewhere in one of the IMG files (yes, I have mounted them before in Windows)
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boot.img is the kernel.

How do I apply just boot.img?
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Fastboot flash boot boot.img
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[Q]Stock Recovery for ICS

Does anyone know if flashing the stock recovery here will work to get OTA updates with the ICS leak? or do I need to get the recovery image that was packaged with the leak? I would really like to put the stock recovery image back on my phone so I can get the OTA updates.

Just reflash ics and don't flash cwm or superuser and you will be stock and should get ota's.
That is if I am understanding your question and issue

That is correct, but I would like to keep it rooted and put the stock recovery back on.
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If you stay rooted you won't get ota's
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I tried flashing stock recovery after installing ICS leak and I got an error in Odin and fail. On reboot I got the connect to keis screen (forget the exact wording) I ended up flashing k0nanes stock. tar to get back up and running. For some reason it didn't like the solo stock recovery flash, but it flashed stock recovery with k0nanes .tar
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Hawkeye9723 said:
Does anyone know if flashing the stock recovery here will work to get OTA updates with the ICS leak? or do I need to get the recovery image that was packaged with the leak? I would really like to put the stock recovery image back on my phone so I can get the OTA updates.
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This leak isn't official. There may be problems with an update if you do get one OTA. Be careful!! Personally I will wait for an update to come out, flash stock and grab it. I wouldn't do it with CWM or even rooted though being rooted didn't matter for 2.3.6.
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Lost root!

Some how I lost root while mucking around trying to change recovery for beanstalk 4.4. I never did get it changed since I had computer issues.
Did I really lose it? And is there an easy way to get it back?
3.18/2.15/S-off/unlocked
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I also tried flashing super su 1.65 and it does nothing
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So you still have your previous recovery installed? Why not just flash a rooted ROM?
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Ahh yes....I restored backup of codefire which is not rooted.....will give it a try
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timmaaa said:
So you still have your previous recovery installed? Why not just flash a rooted ROM?
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All good now on beanstalk 4.3....I wonder why I couldnt flash superuser for codefire x...maybe it just needs a clean install.
Thanks

What recovery did you try to change from and to?

redpoint73 said:
What recovery did you try to change from and to?
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It was a CWM one in the Beanstalk 4.4 forum...was going to flash via adb, BUT I never did it because once I got into
fastboot computer stopped recognizing the phone so I gave up on it.

When flashing any recovery, make sure its the one intended for our device (EVITA not ENDEAVORU) as this is a common mistake. Although, it sounds like your problem was something different.
The official CWM is fine to use (I was using it for a while) although TWRP is more commonly used on this device. On TWRP, if the ROM you are flashing is not rooted, it will give you the option to root it when it flashes, which is pretty nice.

New m8 wants to update

I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?

Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"

N00bs. Lol. You need a stock recovery to flash an OTA. Also, I am s-off and I had a flashback to a stock recovery to flash the OTA . Everything is still fine and then I flashed back to a custom recovery no problem
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Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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Justintoxicated said:
I just got my m8 and want to s-off but I'm traveling and won't be able to figure that out until I'm back on my pc next week. The update keeps prompting me to take it. Is it safe to do so? Sorry if this was already answered trying to figure out the best way to browse with tapatalk.
I don't have root or anything yet...
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You can install the update, and when you have the chance you can s-off using the weaksauce/supersu/firewater method. I picked up a new M8 a couple nights ago and took the update, and afterwards did the temproot/firewater method and it worked just fine. Hope this helps.

I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.

In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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^you can have bloatware frozen and it'll work, just can't be removed.
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dadams312 said:
I flashed stock recovery and tried the OTA and it failed twice. I can't seem to get it on my phone through any of the methods for some reason.
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z-man79 said:
Totally a noob here, How do you flash to a stock recovery?
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KnightDavid said:
Same boat here... s-off, permanent root, TWRP
The update to 1.55 downloaded but when I tried to let it install it just rebooted my phone into TWRP and that was it. Rebooted back to system and I'm still on the 1.12.605.11 software. Checking software update status shows "Result: Update Failed,410"
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I used Firewater's method for permanent root, s-off and custom recovery. If I allow my phone to update will I mess things up or lose root?
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No need to take ota. Ota us our enemy. Lol. The ota has been pulled an you can simply flash the firmware an that's half of the ota an then flash a stock Rom based off 1.55 or install the backup that was posted of a pure stock 1.55 Rom. After those 2 things you will have the full ota. New radios everything.. flashing a stock recovery taking ota flashing back is not needed.
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Thanks guys it was annoying having that update keep popping up and no real computer to lookup info or soff. As for getting updates after roming the phone usually just wait for authors to incorporate the updates. But I did not realize you can't have two recoveries like you can on Motorola phones which is good to know.
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New to android here.
I rooted the device with WeakSauce and use Firewater for S-Off. I didn't flash any custom recoveries. I did freeze some apps with Titanium Backup. If I do the OTA, 1) will it work? and 2) will it remove my root and/or s-off?

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
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For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!

skivvies said:
For clarification, after flashing the stockrecovery.img you posted and installing the update, there should be no problem flashing back to CWM recovery after the fact?
Thank you for your help and your time!
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Nope there will be no problem.
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richii0207 said:
In order to install update, you need to have STOCK recovery and STOCK Rom....NOT debloated or with mods....STOCK.
Again, you need STOCK recovery using a STOCK Rom.
If you have modified the system in anyway, it WONT work until you put it back to STOCK.
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All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?

I don't remember ever having to have stock recovery and stock rom for my old DNA to take an update. Normally devs would update their rom with the updates and all we had to do was fastboot flash the new radio.

NoFanboy said:
You guys need the stock recovery in order to install the OTA. It won't work with a custom recovery, it'll just boot to the custom recovery and not do anything. You can install the OTA with s off and root but you still need the stock recovery. You install the stock recovery the same way as you did the custom. Adb -> flashboot flash recovery *path of recovery*.
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/520717/stockrecovery-img.html
There are also videos on YouTube on flashing recoveries to the m8 if you need more help.
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So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.

sfreemanoh said:
All your big words confuse me...will it work with custom rom's and recoveries?
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Lol, I had to. I just know someone is going to start a thread saying "update won't work, it just boots into twrp"
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z-man79 said:
So I flash the file you linked to, thank you but when I try to get into recovery I get a red triangle with an exclamation point in it. Seemed pretty straight forward.
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Hold the volume up button and pressed the power button to get to the recovery menu.

Next Update?

Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?

Tomorrow.
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Quadrider10 said:
Anyone know when the next update will be for the Verizon M8?
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We just an update last week. Nobody will have this answer.
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im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.

Quadrider10 said:
im debating when to root my M8... i want to root it and get TWRP but still want the OTA updates.
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Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.

cntryby429 said:
Just like with this last ota, devs we'll have flashable zips within a day or two. You won't miss anything by being rooted. Flash away my friend.
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so if i want to do the OTA update, i just have to flash the stock recovery or just flash the OTA in the custom recovery? after the OTA will i loose root? either way?
also is there an all in one toolbox for this stuff?

You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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1ManWolfePack said:
You gotta browse some threads, bro. All right here.
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ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?

Hey when I did the ota update dude didn't even have to flash stock recovery I just followed the instructions flashed via my computer with adb once that happened stock recovery will be back on so then you just have to reflash a custom recovery and that's it.
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Quadrider10 said:
ive been reading all night! lol
from what i got is that to do the OTAs i need to flash stock recovery than do update, then re-root and flash custom recovery again. but idk if i have to re-root if i flash the OTA via custom recovery?
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You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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The purpose is to flash ROMs and if an update comes out, then wait for another ROM based on the update and never lose root. So flash away and enjoy the ride...

NoFanboy said:
You can't get the ota with a custom recovery. You need the stock recovery then you take the ota then you can flash the custom recovery again and flash supersu if you lost root. Some lost root and some didn't. I did
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To expound on that a bit more, OP - this is assuming you have S-OFF/Unlocked BL so then you are able to re-flash the recovery, and, thus, re-root by flashing Superuser.
At least, that's what I'm thinking is necessary. If not then someone can correct me if needed.... =x