Two-part question I suppose:
Is there any way to wirelessly tether past your monthly data limit without paying data overages? My phone is rooted and I have unlimited data and tether every day all the time with no problems at all.....but my friend has an unrooted, pure stock S3 with a 2gb data limit AND I am told that her father has her line set to shut off her data usage at 10:30p every night, so data won't work.
I can show her how to root, unlock bootloader, flash roms, and tether, but it is kinda pointless unless somehow she can get free data/avoid the overage charges past 2gb...is there any way around this? And also, whether it be tethering or just using data on her phone, how does one use data past 10:30p? Any way around that?
An answer or idea to either problem would be a big help, thanks!
I do not think there is a way to do it from yourside. Data goes through their towers and servers and it is logged there.
Unfortunately the answer is no for both of your questions.
Being unlocked and rooted will allow you to tether for free. But you're going to burn data anytime you're on the 3g/4g network. That's why do many of us opt to stay on unlimited.
As for using data past 10:30, that's your friend's dad exerting parental guidance - I'm assuming your friend's phone is on his account.
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Ha. I'm glad my daughter is not quite old enough to have friends like this!
Unlimited is the way to go if you want this sort of freedom, 2Gb is 2Gb.
10:30 seems like a reasonable bed time.
Your friend is kind of stuck.... needs to utilize wifi as much as possible at home etc to conserve the 2gb for when its needed. Let them tether to you and use your unlimited when you're around.
I let a couple of poor ATT saps at work tether to me so they can stream pandora at work all day without blowing their 2gb loads.
Thanks guys for your advice. I know by being rooted/unlocked one can tether for free (where "free" means not paying Vzw the $20/mon for hotspot) because I do that everyday, I just wasn't sure whether there was some way to tether past your data limit/somehow fool verizon into thinking you had unlimited data.
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Just curious if anyone as received the cease tethering email from at&t? My wife uses it because it is the only way to get wireless internet at her boss's house. Even an at&t wireless card is crap. Has anyone heard any stories of if this is a one time only warning like the throttling and if caught at any time in future it automatically changes plan? She has been using it for awhile and this is the first month the usage has shot up. I guess we should consider it good while it lasted. I know ultimately the decision is ours but just curious for any feedback.
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Just curious if anyone as received the cease tethering email from at&t? My wife uses it because it is the only way to get wireless internet at her boss's house. Even an at&t wireless card is crap. Has anyone heard any stories of if this is a one time only warning like the throttling and if caught at any time in future it automatically changes plan? She has been using it for awhile and this is the first month the usage has shot up. I guess we should consider it good while it lasted. I know ultimately the decision is ours but just curious for any feedback.
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I'm not sure of this being done by AT&T -I have received no emails/letters/or any other notifications about this being so. I do know that there are ways around having a tethering plan by rooting and other things. What I HAVE heard, is that along with the 'grandfathered' unlimited data package (that is no longer available with AT&T to new customers), that once you reach a certain data usage for the month they will -at that point- throttle down your "bandwidth" so that you are not utilizing the same data speeds. Now, whether or not this is true, I don't know either. Just something I HAVE head in regards to AT&T controlling such things.
Both phones are rooted. I think At&t is fishing on unlimited plans trying to scare. Granted she has been tethering, but no more than any other month over the last six. Her usage has spiked but not due to the tethering. She needs it for work but I don't want to risk her unlimited plan. I can confirm that once you hit 3gigs of data, they will warn you about throttling. The next month it is a HUGE difference in speed once you pass that cap. I easily hit 3gigs just from streaming a podcast during my hour drive to and from work. Not sure how people get by with 250mb.
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Both phones are rooted. I think At&t is fishing on unlimited plans trying to scare. Granted she has been tethering, but no more than any other month over the last six. Her usage has spiked but not due to the tethering. She needs it for work but I don't want to risk her unlimited plan. I can confirm that once you hit 3gigs of data, they will warn you about throttling. The next month it is a HUGE difference in speed once you pass that cap. I easily hit 3gigs just from streaming a podcast during my hour drive to and from work. Not sure how people get by with 250mb.
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Have you read THIS THREAD about enabling Wi-Fi "hotspot" on the Atrix 2? As for the throttling down data speeds after reaching a certain monthly usage amount, that is just downright dirty. Seems like more and more companies are becoming 'okay' with telling you one thing, and then turning around and doing another.
I use the tethering without getting any emails from AT&T. But I have unlimited data.
just wondering if anyone that has a limited data package with verizon, is rooted and has any trouble from verizon finding out about the data usage... i'm on a limited plan and want to root... i used to be with sprint and unlimited data, so it was never an issue or even had a worry that crossed my mind... just want to be sure before i go through the trouble of rooting my phone...
i dont really understand what your asking here but im sure if you go over you allowed Data useage you will probably get overage charges just like if you went over minutes or text msgs.
i dont understand what rooting would have to do with any of it. rooted or not you would still get charged for going over your data allowance. rooting is just somthing you do to unlock the phone so you can get access to modify the software. it really doesnt have much to do with the network. all your Data/min/txt usage will be calculated the same regardless if your rooted or not.
that's exactly what i'm asking... even though rooting and unlocking features of the phone is there... will the carrier still pick up the data usuage even if i'm rooted... don't know if there's a "blind" in the software, where it would hide data usuage or not... reason i'm asking NOW rather than later on and being charged an arm and a leg for tethering...
to be honest i dont know how easily it would be from them to see if your tethering, using hotspot or whatever. im sure there is a way if they wanted to see badly enough. but its probably not worth their time to even look into unless your usage is creating issues on the network.
but regardless, i dont think there would be an easy way to "trick" their system into thinking your using less Data than you are. if thats what your getting at.
i mean you are pulling the data from the network. regardless what your phone says the usage will still get recorded...
i think what your asking goes way beyond rooting and whatnot. i would suggest using WiFi where available and or getting a plan with more Data. ether that or just go with whatever carrier has unlimited data in your area. i wouldnt expect anyone to publicly be able to help you with this as if there was a commonly known way to get around this and a lot of ppl were getting "free" Data... it would be fixed pretty fast dont you think?
I'm rooted and using Bean's ROM with a 10GB plan. Never had any problems with this phone, my Nexus, or my Bionic.
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I'm rooted and using Bean's ROM with a 10GB plan. Never had any problems with this phone, my Nexus, or my Bionic.
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I haven't tethered on my SGS3 since I've rooted it; I did tether on my Droid X. I have the grandfathered unlimited plan and I only did it sparingly and didn't have any troubles with VZW. In the height of the DX days P3Droid once mentioned that VZW knew who was rooted and tethered and would knock them off their unlimited data plan. I can't say I've ever seen a post from someone saying that they lost their data plan, but his tip on this kept me from tethering too much. Honestly, I'm still a bit afraid to do it now since I don't want to loose unlimited data. Since you're not on the grandfathered plan I wouldn't worry about that too much.
My suggestion is that if you do tether is that you keep it on the DL, yo. Don't go blasting though gigs of data torrenting crap, etc. Just be warned that if you do stuff that is obviously a network drain they'll spot it and "fix it".
damn... makes me wish i would've switched over a long time ago... =\ oh well...
only thing i ever used to tether was my playstation... i did play it a lot though... lol... thanks for the info though guys... much appreciated... and hopefully this thread will answer others questions in the future...
Not sure which plan you have but if you're on their new share everything plans then hotspot is included, they don't charge any extra
It sounds like he's asking either if there's a way to hide your data usage from Verizon, or if rooting and installing a ROM hides your usage by default. I've never heard of a way to hide your usage from Verizon.
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It sounds like he's asking either if there's a way to hide your data usage from Verizon, or if rooting and installing a ROM hides your usage by default. I've never heard of a way to hide your usage from Verizon.
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yup... didn't know if rooting your phone would hide data usage or not... wasn't sure since i used to be with sprint unlimited data and i never got detailed bills...
but i see now that rooting only unlocks the feature of the phone itself... thanks again guys... :good:
It is a fact that you can not hide the usage but you can hide the fact that your tethering through certain apps.
So my sister lives out in Idaho and has no real internet solutions where she is at. Her only options are mobile data from cell phone providers.
So I looked around at different mobile hotspot solutions from Verizon, T-Mobile, and others. They're absurdly expensive. 50GB of monthly data from Verizon is over $300 a month!
I'm currently on Verizon with unlimited 4G. When I go on vacation I take my laptop and my 4G phone and use a 3rd party wifi tether app to give data to my laptop. Last vacation I used roughly 30GB of data from streaming Netflix and my data wasn't slowed down or anything. I'm assuming it's because Verizon can't tell the difference between data usage on the phone and using a wifi tethering app.
Can she get away with a set up like that with T-Mobile? Keep in mind when they had dedicated internet they were using around 130GB of data on Netflix alone every month. Even with unlimited data I feel like T-mobile would shut that down pretty quick.
Thoughts?
Bump. Really need some advice on this.
I've searched around and wasn't able to find legitimate info on the subject - plus most of it was months old so I wasn't sure how to trust it.
Just trying to clear some things up.
If I want to get mobile hotspot for free, will rooting do the trick? Or does it still charge me because the Nexus comes unlocked? I've seen that it will instead take the data from your unlimited plan rather than charge you per/whatever for using hotspot without buying it.
Anyway, if someone can clear this up for me I'd appreciate it!
TL;DR, if I root, can I get hotspot for free or does it still charge?
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I've searched around and wasn't able to find legitimate info on the subject - plus most of it was months old so I wasn't sure how to trust it.
Just trying to clear some things up.
If I want to get mobile hotspot for free, will rooting do the trick? Or does it still charge me because the Nexus comes unlocked? I've seen that it will instead take the data from your unlimited plan rather than charge you per/whatever for using hotspot without buying it.
Anyway, if someone can clear this up for me I'd appreciate it!
TL;DR, if I root, can I get hotspot for free or does it still charge?
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rooting has nothing to do with your hotspots. all root does is give you permission to access system level files(and change them). sprint sees when you are on their network, as soon as your phone connects to it, for regular data use and as a hotspot. if you have an unlimited data plan with them, and they dont charge extra to use your phone as a hotspot, then cool. i know that tmobile doesnt charge for hotspots, unless you have unlimited high spped data. then they limit your hotspot usage to 2.5gb for free, then charge you if you want more usage.
Are you sure? I saw people in this thread talking about some work around - people saying that rooting and such would let you use the mobile hotspot for free and that it would take data from your unlimited data plan rather than charging you for using data on your hotspot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/nexus-5-sprint-tether-hotspot-t2509613/page10
I thought all paying for hotspot did was unlock it (on Sprint at least) and all data used would just come from your unlimited data.
Depends on the ROM. Stock you need to add tethering_dun_required with value of 0 to providers.settings SQL global database. Search and you'll find more info about this. But custom ROMs such as Liquid and Slim don't need it and tethering with Sprint works right away.
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I only have experience with Sprint. I have an unlimited plan and I would still need to pay another $10 for them to "activate" WiFi tethering. Luckily if you are rooted you can do it yourself. Just follow the directions, it works great. You do not have to transfer any files to/from your computer if you buy a sqlite editor from the play store...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47064902
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Are you sure? I saw people in this thread talking about some work around - people saying that rooting and such would let you use the mobile hotspot for free and that it would take data from your unlimited data plan rather than charging you for using data on your hotspot. http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/help/nexus-5-sprint-tether-hotspot-t2509613/page10
I thought all paying for hotspot did was unlock it (on Sprint at least) and all data used would just come from your unlimited data.
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You answered your own question.
The link I posted is the OP of that thread. Just buy the sqlite editor on the play store, it is worth it.
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So I've had the grandfathered unlimited data a LONG time but now there is a possible better option.
I have four lines on my account, only I have unlimited data. The recent DirecTV deal is something like ~$150 for four lines of unlimited everything (same 22gb/mo data shared before some sort of throttle) as long as you have a DirecTV account.
The net difference is about $140/mo cheaper for me and everyone gets 'unlimited' data. My parents will probably carry their DirecTV account for at least another 10yrs...
I'm a serious power user and usually use about 30-50gb/mo. I don't even notice the slow down with what I do.
Worth sacrificing the grandfathered personal unlimited which is now $35? I'm not sure I know all the details so I ask here. Thank you!
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So I've had the grandfathered unlimited data a LONG time but now there is a possible better option.
I have four lines on my account, only I have unlimited data. The recent DirecTV deal is something like ~$150 for four lines of unlimited everything (same 22gb/mo data shared before some sort of throttle) as long as you have a DirecTV account.
The net difference is about $140/mo cheaper for me and everyone gets 'unlimited' data. My parents will probably carry their DirecTV account for at least another 10yrs...
I'm a serious power user and usually use about 30-50gb/mo. I don't even notice the slow down with what I do.
Worth sacrificing the grandfathered personal unlimited which is now $35? I'm not sure I know all the details so I ask here. Thank you!
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Did you switch to the new Unlimited Data plan with Directv
If yes where you able to use rooting or foxfi to tether. They offer no tethering plan with the new unlimited. I was wondering if there is a workaround.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/att-unlimited-data-plan-directv-t3422618
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Did you switch to the new Unlimited Data plan with Directv
If yes where you able to use rooting or foxfi to tether. They offer no tethering plan with the new unlimited. I was wondering if there is a workaround.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/att-unlimited-data-plan-directv-t3422618
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Yes I did switch to the Directv unlimited and I've never even considered a tethering plan. It's always worked and I get the occasional text message informing me that tethering plans exist. With the new directv plan I haven't gotten a single text or letter about it. I only use android things so it's pretty easy to get some utility that does what I need. I'm currently on the OnePlus Three which does tethering default as part of the OS. I don't use it a lot, but it's extremely useful when I need it. The past month I've been really over using it however. It's usually faster than wired net anyways.
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Yes I did switch to the Directv unlimited and I've never even considered a tethering plan. It's always worked and I get the occasional text message informing me that tethering plans exist. With the new directv plan I haven't gotten a single text or letter about it. I only use android things so it's pretty easy to get some utility that does what I need. I'm currently on the OnePlus Three which does tethering default as part of the OS. I don't use it a lot, but it's extremely useful when I need it. The past month I've been really over using it however. It's usually faster than wired net anyways.
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The ATT rep told me, that I cant add tethering option to the new Unlimited plan even if I want to pay for it. But you are telling me that hotspot just works
So ATT does not block third party WIFI hotspot tethering or if it is built into the OS with the new unlimited data plan. Have you tried this on other android phones or just the One plus.
I am thinking of switching to ATT because of this plan, but the Hotspot is must for me.
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The ATT rep told me, that I cant add tethering option to the new Unlimited plan even if I want to pay for it. But you are telling me that hotspot just works
So ATT does not block third party WIFI hotspot tethering or if it is built into the OS with the new unlimited data plan. Have you tried this on other android phones or just the One plus.
I am thinking of switching to ATT because of this plan, but the Hotspot is must for me.
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I've only had the oneplus 3 on the new plan but I can tell you I'm on USB tether right now and it's 100% flawless. I tested wifi too but as we all know, wifi just isn't as snappy as a wire. lemme test it on various devices for you later today. The wifi hotspot, not the tethering ability...bit too lazy for that, sorry.
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I've only had the oneplus 3 on the new plan but I can tell you I'm on USB tether right now and it's 100% flawless. I tested wifi too but as we all know, wifi just isn't as snappy as a wire. lemme test it on various devices for you later today. The wifi hotspot, not the tethering ability...bit too lazy for that, sorry.
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That would be great, really appreciate it. I mainly need the wifi Hotspot. Have you been going over the 22GB throttle limit, if so are they slowing you down.
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That would be great, really appreciate it. I mainly need the wifi Hotspot. Have you been going over the 22GB throttle limit, if so are they slowing you down.
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Even on the previous unlimited plan they would throttle you after only 5gb. I pass 22gb in the first two weeks every month. Sometimes in the first week. I don't even notice anymore if it's slow or fast. I'm sure it's being throttled but it's still fast 'enough' for me not to care. I was really skeptical of the plan but it's actually working out pretty well and it's FAR cheaper than I ever expected. Especially if you're getting your own phones...the oneplus 3 is excellent.