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The Galaxy S has TV-out capability via its headphone jack. Is this true of the Nexus S as well? This is a deciding factor for whether or not I buy one. No one has mentioned this
weber09 said:
The Galaxy S has TV-out capability via its headphone jack. Is this true of the Nexus S as well? This is a deciding factor for whether or not I buy one. No one has mentioned this
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so far I have not read anything about this in the specs...however, I would be very surprised if it is not available (or at the very least be "unlocked)
Google loves puzzles and games. This is evident from their april fools jokes, to more recently the "nexus s challenge"
I can guarantee there will be a whole slew of things that get "opened up/discovered" in the NS. Remember when the N1 came out...now look at it, 720p video, touch focus, fm radio, etc.
After plugging the video out cable into the Nexus S headphone jack, nothing happened. This leads me to believe that it does not support video out in its current state. Perhaps it is there, waiting for some custom firmware magic to wake up
Edit: I also saw no tvout option in the display settings.
I also pluged in a video out cable but didn't get a connection.
anyone success outputing to TV??
maybe by micro USB to HDMI cable??
On the Galaxy S this is something that needs to be enabled.
Following the same pattern the same would be required in the Nexus S.
As someone referred before maybe this is something along like the FM radio on the Nexus one...
I have money 4 anyone who can get this working!
weber09 said:
The Galaxy S has TV-out capability via its headphone jack. Is this true of the Nexus S as well? This is a deciding factor for whether or not I buy one. No one has mentioned this
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It is not supported on the Nexus S. Not sure why they removed it.
vapotrini said:
It is not supported on the Nexus S. Not sure why they removed it.
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ran out of jacks that support this feature pretty much the same reason why BT 2.1 was used.....
Have got a source for this? I thought that the hardware was there, just a software issue..?
And isn't the mic connection of the 3.5 jack used to run the video?
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100% it can be done....http://www.talkandroid.com/24612-giant-42-inch-google-nexus-s-land-at-best-buy/
This is one feature I want to have, hopefully we will see it in cm7.
ogdobber said:
100% it can be done....http://www.talkandroid.com/24612-giant-42-inch-google-nexus-s-land-at-best-buy/
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Don't see that this proves that it can be done via the headphone jack, nor - as an extension - by solder-scared punters in general. Until we see how they did it (ideally headphone, unideally hardwired to motherboard) I don't think that we can tout this as anything more than a promising possibility...
Just found this thread coming from a Google Search...
Still no answer or any clue?
I would be so disapointed if there was no tv-out feature
Phone to TV, DLNA for the moment: iMediaShare, skifta or some similar application.
I've been digging around, the SOC definitely supports simultaneous video out like the vibrant does.
I'm trying to pin point whether or not the Nexus S uses the same headphone hardware as the rest of the Galaxy line. I can't seem to find anything about it. That's going to be the crucial point on whether it can be hacked in or not. My gut tells me samsung used the same parts as it would be most cost efficient way to do so.
The SOC actually supports 1080p over USB => hdmi connection, (the actual USB hardware is probably not in place though, as the only galaxy line that used HDMI is the EPIC and that has a seperate mini HDMI port).
We just need to find an interested dev to jump into the kernels and libraries. Can we say Bounty? I'm down for at least $15, if someone wants to organize the bounty.
JCopernicus said:
I've been digging around, the SOC definitely supports simultaneous video out like the vibrant does.
I'm trying to pin point whether or not the Nexus S uses the same headphone hardware as the rest of the Galaxy line. I can't seem to find anything about it. That's going to be the crucial point on whether it can be hacked in or not. My gut tells me samsung used the same parts as it would be most cost efficient way to do so.
The SOC actually supports 1080p over USB => hdmi connection, (the actual USB hardware is probably not in place though, as the only galaxy line that used HDMI is the EPIC and that has a seperate mini HDMI port).
We just need to find an interested dev to jump into the kernels and libraries. Can we say Bounty? I'm down for at least $15, if someone wants to organize the bounty.
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$40 from me someone start it
not much but i'd throw in $20, even though i wouldnt use it much myself. it would just be cool to have
This is complete BS is the Nexus S doesn't do TV out! I mean, I had to get over my little crying fit since It doesn't have an external SD slot (like my Vibrant), but NOW since it doesn't do TV out, why should I get the f*@! phone . Is it worth turning in my sweet 'rooted' Vibrant running an awesome NERO v5 rom for the 'Pure Google Experience' I was willing to throw it all away to get my Nexus S, so I can have untethered updates straight from Google, BUT NO TV OUT!!!???!!! I use VR Glasses on my Vibrant to watch movies, surf, and play games, but since Nexus S doesn't support TV out, then F#@* IT!!!
I guess i'll wait if there is a software solution for TV out.
lawalty said:
This is complete BS is the Nexus S doesn't do TV out! I mean, I had to get over my little crying fit since It doesn't have an external SD slot (like my Vibrant), but NOW since it doesn't do TV out, why should I get the f*@! phone . Is it worth turning in my sweet 'rooted' Vibrant running an awesome NERO v5 rom for the 'Pure Google Experience' I was willing to throw it all away to get my Nexus S, so I can have untethered updates straight from Google, BUT NO TV OUT!!!???!!! I use VR Glasses on my Vibrant to watch movies, surf, and play games, but since Nexus S doesn't support TV out, then F#@* IT!!!
I guess i'll wait if there is a software solution for TV out.
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Holy hell. Just stop. Sell your phone and go buy another phone. Be aware of the features of a phone before you buy it. THIS IS NOT A FEATURE PHONE. IT IS A DEVELOPER PHONE.
I'd like to hear some real answers especially from people have had the chance to play with or own all 3 of these tablets. I did god knows how much research but really the only thing that I need right now is someone who has first hand experience to tell me cause what's what. The tech review sites usually review things that don't turn out to be true. Also ownership and time allows for different conclusions.
So far, I did a LOT of research on each tablet, god knows how many youtube videos i watched. What I took from the 3 are:
Xoom has great development and community on the edge of their seat, ready to jump up at any moment when HC source or ICS is released so it can start developing. I see it as the Android G1 phone. Great support, no doubt that all the ports and stuff will work (micro SD, hdmi and usb host) when rooted. BUT, it has a pretty bad screen from what I hear? I dont know if its an exaggeration but its no transformer or galaxy 10.1 in terms of display. Seem to be the "Fastest" or most capable in terms of hardware.
Transformer is the bridge between galaxy and xoom, both in the size and functionality since it also has micro sd, hdmi that galaxy lacks out of the box. The transformer needs an adapter for USB and currently the USB host and adapter is not out. But just like any android tablet, once source is released, the potentials are pretty much there to use usb host and anything else.
CONS: Problems. I'm very concerned about audio quality so can someone fill me in on that?? How are the speakers?? How do they compare to the galaxy or xoom or toshiba thrive? How is audio output in general to external speakers? (the toshiba thrive's output to external was TERRIBLE. headphone volume was bad). I'm also worried that if i get a bad transformer I'm going to have to wait weeks for asus to keep repairing stuff. Also, how is the battery life? I know the galaxy and xoom are the top 2 android battery life contenders, second to the ipad 2.
Galaxy tab 101. - Stripped and slender form of the transformer. No expandability. Adapter allows for usb or microSD but you can't expand past the 16gb/32gb with a microSD. Not a deal breaker but the other two allow it. Great display and sound.
I was hesitating between the galaxy and transformer.
For me the problem was 3G or USB.
I decided for the transformer and tlil now no regrets. I've even got 3G working on it (with a 3G USB stick)
The Transformer has USB, mine has 2x USB ports.
Also if you are outside the US, forget out the Xoom, the support is abysmal, I think they only just got Honeycomb 3.1, when the US has had it for months, and the Transformer is already on Honeycomb 3.2
As for the Galaxy Tab, overpriced IMHO, you can get so much more with the Transformer.
I looked at all 3, and the Transformer (with dock) was easily the winner.
Don't get the Xoom, it's a waste. If you need a tablet with 4G, then just get the Galaxy tab.
But the choice really depends on what you'll need it for. Do you think you'll need a keyboard dock? Then get the Transformer. The Galaxy Tab has a keyboard dock, but it's wireless and wouldn't be something you can use on the go. (subway, bus, etc.) The Transformer, overall, is a nice device. It has its problems, like the speakers aren't that loud, but you can kind of fix that with some tweaks. You can't beat the price either. $399 for one of the best Android tablets on the market.
If they think you'll be using it for media, the SG Tab maybe what your looking for. Also if you want something a little more portable, you may want to look at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. It's coming out soon and has higher specs than both the TF and 10.1. I'd suggest looking out for the Transformer 2 but there hasn't been much info on it.
I still wonder how it is possible that business devices like the Note 8.0 do not get a range of "pro" accessories from the get go, if anyway...
Does anyone know of some device specific docking station by Samsung or some OEM? Perhaps something has been anounced?
Thank You very much in advance!
Regards, Yoko
I don't know of any device specific, true docking stations, but the following are several types of stands that I've been considering:
http://www.amazon.com/Arkon-Portable-Fold-Up-Playbook-IPM-TAB1/dp/B000CKVOOY/ and http://www.amazon.com/IPAD-ST-Universal-Tablet-Stand-Kindle/dp/B0045JNBNU/
http://www.amazon.com/KB-Covers-Stand-iPad-Black/dp/B003VFALEQ/
http://www.radtech.us/products/bluelounge-nest-ipad-tablet-stand
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-A-Frame-Tabletop-Samsung-Tablets/dp/B003GAJ67Y/
http://www.amazon.com/AmazonBasics-Tablets-Readers-including-Samsung/dp/B0064EL2DK/
Thank You for the links, but at least for me one, if not the only reason to get a docking station would be hassle free charging and maybe syncing via USB or MHL linking to a TV, but mainly charging.
Generic devices still force You to plug the tablet in at the right position / angle.
Perhaps it´s only bugging me, but I can not wrap my head around the fact, that any 20$ cordless phone for home use has a charging station and for high end smartphones and "hybrids" like the Note 8 we still have to fiddle around with micro usb cables & plugs until some chinese factory manufactures the first halfway fitting, cheap looking dock six moths after the device is widely available (/rant over)
Yokobln said:
Thank You for the links, but at least for me one, if not the only reason to get a docking station would be hassle free charging and maybe syncing via USB or MHL linking to a TV, but mainly charging.
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I understand; that makes sense.
And I hear you regarding the lack of sophisticated docking stations. I wonder if part of the problem is that people are so mobile these days (and thus you're not going to take your docking station with you, most likely) and also quick to upgrade to new devices (in which case your old docking station may no longer have a use)? And if the combination of those two makes for less demand, or at least not enough perceived demand by manufactures to invest in developing the tech?
But I agree with you that it would be very cool to have a docking station that does what you describe.
Samsung's Smart Dock Multimedia Hub (#EDD-S20JWE) for the Note II & S4 "Should" work with the Note 8.0, but I don't know how stable it would be in this dock since it is made for the smaller devices.
I have this dock for my Note II and it works well. As soon as I receive my Int'l Note 8.0 3G (~May 8-11) I will test it and report back.
I'm thinking the following post relates to what @bbfoto is talking about, correct?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244383
^Yes.
I just posted there as well. Thanks!
Thanks a lot for the input guys!
The Samsung Smart dock looks to be the closest to what I have in mind, though as pointed out in the linked thread it does not support the tablet in any considerable way.
I was looking for something more like the Nexus 7 docking station, unfortunately I can not link to images, beeing a newbie and all...
Well, who knows, perhaps sometime in the near future some company will think of (business) users, who simply want to throw their tablet on a perfectly fitting dock while at their desk.
Thanks again folks!
Regards, Yoko
itrek
Bought the itrek from amazon ill post more when it arrives.
I have put the Note 8.0 into the Samsung Smart Dock for the Note II. It works really well and holds things steady.
gbmitchell said:
I have put the Note 8.0 into the Samsung Smart Dock for the Note II. It works really well and holds things steady.
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are you able to use the device while on the stand without it falling over?
melvill said:
are you able to use the device while on the stand without it falling over?
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Yes. It works great. I threw it in at work and plugged in a USB keyboard and mouse and worked with it that way. It's a really nice unit. Just too expensive.
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I have put the Note 8.0 into the Samsung Smart Dock for the Note II. It works really well and holds things steady.
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Do you know if the Note 8.0 will fit in the Smart Dock with a Samsung Book Cover Case on it?
Yes it does
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It also fits with the poetic case!
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Does it work when you put it on its side? ( Landscape Mode)
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that's an universal dock
not special
gbmitchell said:
Yes. It works great. I threw it in at work and plugged in a USB keyboard and mouse and worked with it that way. It's a really nice unit. Just too expensive.
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Is the HDMI output the same resolution as the tablet or can it out put at higher res? Id be interested in it if it was higher res as it would make andriod office suites a viable option for me. At the moment I find the resolution hinders its use, especially with spreadsheets (which is what I use the most). From what I can gather it just mirrors the tablets resolution.
I might get one anyway as i like the idea of being able to plug in my PS3 controller via USB and play on some emulators. I find emulator a pain to use with touch controls.
hertsjoatmon said:
Is the HDMI output the same resolution as the tablet or can it out put at higher res? Id be interested in it if it was higher res as it would make andriod office suites a viable option for me. At the moment I find the resolution hinders its use, especially with spreadsheets (which is what I use the most). From what I can gather it just mirrors the tablets resolution.
I might get one anyway as i like the idea of being able to plug in my PS3 controller via USB and play on some emulators. I find emulator a pain to use with touch controls.
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It would be same resolution, just scaled. For example my MHL kit gives 1080p, my miracast kit gives 720p. Same amount of content on screen. Ditto if I use an adapter that only does VGA output.
You can't change that metric.
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I was on Amazon searching for the Galaxy smart dock and ran across this one Afunta(tm) Smart Dock for $27
Anyone heard or tried this? I know they make poor tablets.
gheezydroid said:
I was on Amazon searching for the Galaxy smart dock and ran across this one Afunta(tm) Smart Dock for $27
Anyone heard or tried this? I know they make poor tablets.
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You better read all the one review in there.
Well the case isn't a factor since I dont have one, if only he'd review the product before giving it 1 star for his case not fitting. That would have been more helpful.
Does anyone have a solution for hooking up a monitor mouse and keyboard to this phone that supports 1080p?
I hear the official Samsung dock does not support 1080p for any of the phones. I want to get a dock for a galaxy s4 with extended battery but no one wants a blurry upscaled image. I would be fine with just a simple chain of adapters or anything, I just want it to work.
I may even accept just an HDMI adapter and then try to get a blue tooth keyboard and mouse does that work well?
I looked at the afunta and they still do not have any reviews.
Okay I have been looking at getting a controller for my phone. Mostly to play emulators and such games. I would kinda like to get something that would be open to future Galaxy Phones, and perhaps work with my UAG case.
Okay, I found some really good controllers. One of the ones I found is PhoneJoy, it looks really good. It looks like it can fit the Note 3 as well as the HTC One. There forums aren't really too helpful. I am wondering if anyone knows anything about the company or perhaps which size should I go for to fit my phone. I am leaning towards the Note 3.
http://phonejoy.com/products/
What do you guys think? Anyone own any controllers for their phone?
I have the steelseries free. It's an awesome controller and comfortable enough to keep in your pocket on the go!
http://steelseries.com/products/other/steelseries-free-mobile-wireless-controller
Works with everything too
A PS3 controller with the Sixaxis app is the best that I've ever used
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I like the F310, it's really cheap ~$15 when on sale.
But it takes up your usb port and requires OTG so it's not the most elegant at all.
I have a moga pocket, connects easily via BT. Tiny and clips to my galaxy s4 like a charm. Works with all the emulators I've tried via an unofficial driver app. Even come with a carry pouch. The only drawback is although it has 2 sticks, it has no actual dpad (Though the pro version does). http://store.mogaanywhere.com/Products/CPFA000253-01