[Q] Apps and external sd card storage on ICS. What gives? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

Hey all,
I just rooted my ATT Galaxy S2 first time and I think the first time android phone in general. I have successfully got to where i want to be. I have internet tethering, uninstalled all the junk, I still sticking with base rom, as I am trying to figure out why CM10 would not boot up beyond loading screen, but thats another topic.
What i don't understand is why you would not be able to move apps to external storage sd card. I used to have htc, and was able to do that, but that was before ICS. I have done some research but not as successfully as i wanted to do.
I have come across "ICS SD Binder" on play.google.com. But I dont completely understand what exactly needs to be done. Or rather bit unsure which drop down item to select and how it might effect my sd card as well as how to move apps afterwards. I assume just relocating them into that folder.
So can some one tell me why is it such a pain to have apps on external sd card and may be point me to right threads on how to point to external sd card and move my apps there or how in general i can get my apps on my external sd card.
Much appreciated and thank you in advance everyone.
I just used grooveshark and audible for my listening and educational needs. Though audio books library isnt bad at 2 gigs. Audio files that i offline are about 6-8 gigs. And thats hits my SG2 internal storage limit : /
Much appriciated.

Why do you want them on the external? They're easy to replace. Store other stuff on the external
Edit: you can use tibu to move apps to the external, but they don't always work well there.
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jd1639 said:
Why do you want them on the external? They're easy to replace. Store other stuff on the external
Edit: you can use tibu to move apps to the external, but they don't always work well there.
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use app to sd on regular basis works great for me
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I want to move audible and grooveshark to extranal sd so all their offline content which is about 8 gigs can reside on my 32 gig external drive.
AppMgr III (App 2 SD) on google play?

Apparently my external sd card not seen by that app only internal sd card. Which is useless....

apps2sd moves apps to internal sd not externl sd. dnt think there's a way to move to ext sd yet without assigning ext sd as internal sd and vice versa.
use search button there was a thread with this topic already
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Actually this is what i was asking about.

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SD Card problem

I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
jimbo831 said:
I am just guessing here, but perhaps those apps are going to the extended internal memory? The G2x (like most Androids now with large internal memory) treats 5GB of your internal memory as an SD card at the directory /sdcard. The external card you put in is found at /sdcard/_ExternalSD
My best guess is that your apps are going to the /sdcard which is actually part of your internal memory.
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You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
Thanks
vinnyjr said:
You are right, how do I put them on the ext sd card? Do I have to partition the sd card or is there another way, seems the people that don't root there phones must be able to use the ext sd card as well??
Thanks
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Sorry, but I can't answer that one yet, I haven't even ordered my G2x yet. I just read about this issue from another thread on this forum because apparently it was the same setup on the Vibrant. Perhaps some Vibrant owners can chime in with a suggestion? Not sure if it's possible to put apps to SD or if they just automatically go to the internal storage. However, if I were you, I'd rather have the apps on internal storage and save the SD for videos, pictures, music, etc. The internal storage will be more reliable (not fail later) and faster than the SD. 5GB should be more than enough space for app storage.
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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tsquire99 said:
App2sd works. As long as the app supports it. But there really is no need to put them on the external sd right? 5gigs should be plenty. Put your music and vids on the external. Sounds exactly Like my vibrant.
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Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
jimbo831 said:
Yeah, that's what I meant but I think I used the wrong term. When you use what Froyo calls "Apps to SD" it goes to what the phone calls SD but is actually internal memory. Do you know if there is any way (without root or hacks) to have those Apps to SD actually go to your SD card (/sdcard/_ExternalSD) instead of the internal memory the phone calls the SD?
I agree that the 5GB internal should be more than enough anyway, but I am curious for sure.
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I just never had that set up before with any of my android phones. I just didn't know how to put any files to the ext sd card, I foolled around with it and basicly I just went into my file manager and long pressed the app of file, copy, went into the extsd card and paste.
Thanks for the help.
I have had the MyTouch 4G and the Nexus One, neither had that set up.
PS this phone flies.
hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
bguzmanz2 said:
hey guys future g2x owner here, what sd card size does it come with?
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It doesn't come with any sd card. Supply your own.
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
crazythunder said:
i thought the 5 gigs was for storage and the 1.5 was for apps? i'm confused
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Yes, this is true. However, from 2.2 up, Android allows you to move apps to the "SD card" (or in this case the 5GB extended internal storage) as long as the developer enabled this feature. This way large games and other such apps don't use up all the storage.
bguzmanz2 said:
wow, sweet phone with no sd card or headphones. lame!!
ps, still gonna get it tho =)
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Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
aironeous said:
Not many phones come with an sd card and besides why use their ear buds when you can get a pair of zipbuds from amazon?
http://www.amazon.com/Zipbuds-DGA-T...8N9G/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1303274745&sr=8-1
Furthermore it's none of my business and you're free to do as you choose but who sticks their apps on the external sd card? Why do that?
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Having a Nexus One I put most of my Apps on ext 3. Worked great and always had over 140 mb of free memory space which kept my phone very fast.
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vinnyjr said:
I installed a 32 gb sd card and my phone recognized it without any problems but as I iinstalled apps to the card the amount of space in card never changed. I changed the sd card to 8 gb and I'm having the same problem. Anyone else having this problem, I am rooted and have su permission.
Thanks
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I think the idea is your apps/data go into internal 5GB (which is mounted as SDCARD) and then you use your SDCARD for media (mounted as /SDCARD/_ExternalSD)
yup.. that is right mobilehavoc.
The phone has no "sdcard" when you get it new, but it's got basically 5.35GB internal SD already built in.. So you have plenty of storage, plus you have 1.3GB for apps, and can move them to that 5GB if needed.
Although I just put in my 16GB and tried to titanium restore and it doesn't find anything cuz it's looking in /sdcard and my file is on my sd card, and the g2x has that as /external_sd
that is irritating, will I need to move all the important stuff over, and downloads and pictures n such will all from now on go to the internal 5GB. so move everything over and use actual SD for rest
Hey there, so I'm having a different sd card problem, but I can't find any threads directly related to it so I'm just going to post it here because it seems just as good a place as any.
So yesterday morning, about 3am or so, cause I'm weird like that, I finished the movie I was watching, so I went to go move it off my phone and put another one on, so I hooked up my USB and connected to Ubuntu, the sdcard popped up and I deleted the file, then deleted the trash file but when I delete the trash file I get an error message saying Error removing file: Directory not empty, and no matter what way I try to edit my sd, it won't change, it won't save any new data or delete the old, I've tried reformating with the phone, reformating with ubuntu, I've tried file managers, using a micro to sd conversion chip and putting it in my card reader, but no matter what I try my sd won't change, somebody please help me out, I just got the 16gb card like a month ago, but I bought it in Austria so I can't really return it, because I'm living in Italy.
Thanks in advanced.
Never mind my last post, I did a wipe of my sd card from the phone, pluged it back into ubuntu, and then magically, I could erase all the files.
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
Dragon509 said:
This setup of this phone's memory is frustrating. I have an app called DroidTV which normally uses the SD card to save videos to, but due to the internal SD card it's getting saved there instead. Is the only way to change this to hope the app developer fixes/changes the way the app behaves? I wish there was an option to make the phone treat the internal SD as the external so you could more easily use your larger card as the default
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See it's really a hard problem to solve. I'm coming from an Incredible which had 8GB of internal storage but it was mounted as /emmc. This meant no app except the custom camera and music apps and maybe one or two apps specially designed by devs could use the internal storage.
The way the G2X does it, all apps can see the internal storage and use it. All media apps can see the external SD as well. But you are right, the dev would need to update the app. Although I don't see why it is so difficult - they could give the user the option to a path so you could put in /sdcard/_ExternalSD/
And that would work.

[Q] Moving apps to the external SD card

Hi all. Let me first say that I love my Blaze. My last phone was the Galaxy S Vibrant I. This phone is quite a bit faster, and I like that it has a flash and front facing camera. The first thing I did was root it, install Titanium Backup and used it to delete the bloatware apps that came pre-installed. One thing I was a bit disappointed in however is the lack of memory.
I know someone else asked this earlier, but I never saw an answer. The phone has its own built-in memory, and an internal usb memory, along with the external sd card. When you want to move an app to the sd card, it puts it on the internal usb card. I haven't found a way (or an app) that will let you move them to the external card. This is an issue since the Blaze comes with a lot less memory than my old Vibrant. For anyone who likes to install games, 1 or 2 games will max out the memory. I chatted with a Samsung rep online and they were clueless. It upsets me a bit that this phone is 2 yrs older than my Vibrant and has so much less internal memory.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but couldn't you just use Root Browser to move the apps? The path to it, I believe is sdcard/external_sd
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And all the apps are in system/app folder.
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So you can just move the apk file manually to the external sd card and it will still work? Its not like a computer where the shortcut will be looking for it in a particular place?
I asked earlier about sending apps to the external sd card.
I am not sure if you can do it with Es or another took, but I dragged and dropped when mounted to a PC. I am now seeing widgets and shortcuts disappear, for apps I didn't even move.
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Widgets installed on SD cards don't work properly, or at all in my experience. It's an android limitation of sorts. I think it's intentional, some sort of side effect with the idiosyncracies (however that is spelled) with what happens to an app if it's running on the sd card and you eject it from the phone or mount it to the computer.
One example of this that I'm familiar with is poweramp. It can be installed to the sd card, but the guy made a widget addon that stays on the phone specifically because if it's loaded on the sd card the widget doesn't work.
And yes, I'm aware that you said it was even for apps that you didn't move.......I'm taking a guess that whatever widget your'e talking about is not actually an app you moved on the sd card, but is RELATED to it, in some way.
Or maybe it's just a case of craziness happening, and it's an achilles heel the phone has.
If that's the case......sigh, I swear my next phone better be straight out of a science fiction movie or I will just be an angry person.
I don't understand why Samsung would make this phone with two internal memory storage devices instead of just one. Whats the use of being able to use a large external card if you can't move apps over to it. The two internal ones are small. They could have just been combined into a bigger one.
Is it normal for some apps on the sd to sometimes not load when disconnecting from the computer or rebooting the phone?
This might help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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Use of SD CARD

When I had a P1000, I used a lot the feature of sending applications and games and its data files to my SD CARD with a single purpose: leave the internal 16Gb memory as free as possible for better perfomance.
Now I have a rooted P6200 and I only can use my SD CARD for storing music and videos because I have no option of MOVE TO SD CARD anymore.
I also tried some applications that MOVE TO SD CARD, but none of them work.
I called the SAMSUNG SUPPORT and they told me I should be able to move to SD, but I read somewhere that it's something about the way that Android 3 and 4 manage partitions... what makes me believe I will not be able.
So, I am confused.
Can I move applications to SD CARD or not?
Can I make a application store data on SD CARD? Example: MailDroid or a game that consumes a lot of the memory - I would prefer to store data on the SD card.
Does anybody have a hint for that?
Thank you!
mario.renor said:
When I had a P1000, I used a lot the feature of sending applications and games and its data files to my SD CARD with a single purpose: leave the internal 16Gb memory as free as possible for better perfomance.
Now I have a rooted P6200 and I only can use my SD CARD for storing music and videos because I have no option of MOVE TO SD CARD anymore.
I also tried some applications that MOVE TO SD CARD, but none of them work.
I called the SAMSUNG SUPPORT and they told me I should be able to move to SD, but I read somewhere that it's something about the way that Android 3 and 4 manage partitions... what makes me believe I will not be able.
So, I am confused.
Can I move applications to SD CARD or not?
Can I make a application store data on SD CARD? Example: MailDroid or a game that consumes a lot of the memory - I would prefer to store data on the SD card.
Does anybody have a hint for that?
Thank you!
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There are some apps in the Google Play Market like app 2 sd or move to sd (something like that), you can try one of those.
Personally I have no experience on these apps since I still have plenty of space, but you can read a little the features and see if that works for you
Unfortunately, APP2SD does not work to me
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There are some apps in the Google Play Market like app 2 sd or move to sd (something like that), you can try one of those.
Personally I have no experience on these apps since I still have plenty of space, but you can read a little the features and see if that works for you
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Thank you for your suggestion, but when APP2SD starts, I receive this message:
Your device has no real primary external storage or primary storage is emulated
APP2SD will not support move 2 card.
I dont understand this message. I have the 16Gb internal memory plus a 32Gb SD card as s imple a s it can b e, but it is not moving to S D.
P lease someone help me how to solve it.
By the way, the 32Gb SD is fully recognized by the P6200. I can see all my files regularly.
Link2sd may work, but I don't think there would be any performance gain from moving the apps over.
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Can I get super user access without rooting? Link2SD tells me I have to allow it to move the app.
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Kumabjorn said:
Can I get super user access without rooting?
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Super User access is root access. so, no you can't.
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From my point of view, rooting is something relatively easy, both to get and to lose: you just flash a zip from the default recovery. It does not even takes your flash count up. Basically, it's a single file that needs to be placed in "/system/bin/". If you need to send it to support, mount "system" as R/W and delete "su".
I could be wrong though, but you should really look into it. I think it is worth it.
By the way, I think you would have to partition your SD Card to use it with Link2SD...
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Apps to External SD Card

My internal storage is getting low. I must be a App download junkie. Any major drawback in moving the Apps from internal storage to an SD card? I did a search but didn't find anything related to the Infuse (and CM10).
As long as the app gives you the option it is usually no problem. There is always a chance of an app not working after a move, if so you can always put it back on the internal.... or just have it go stand in the corner.
Some of the apps are misbehaving but unfortunately I ran out of corners.
I used Rom toolbox and moved the apps to SD card but it didn't go to external SD but the 8GB "internal" card...I need them to go to emmc (the real SD CARD).
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I like rom toolbox... for moving apps I like one called Ap2sd. ( Google Play, free)
Downloaded it but no option to the micro SD card. But its time to go to bed, got to work in the morning.
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The external sd card takes slightly longer for the system to access than the internal sd card, but it shouldn't really make a noticeable difference.
psal217050 said:
Some of the apps are misbehaving but unfortunately I ran out of corners.
I used Rom toolbox and moved the apps to SD card but it didn't go to external SD but the 8GB "internal" card...I need them to go to emmc (the real SD CARD).
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I too want to move my media and apps to a newly formatted 32gb external SD drive. App2sd moved them to factory installed SD.

Can't move apps fro memory to SD Card?

Ok guys I have the Razr Maxx HD and loving it. But im using titanium and noticed I can't move my apps from memory to my SD card. Freezing apps is no problem but once I move an app, exit and reopen titanium it appears the app was never moved. It still shows it sitting on the memory.
Any help with this?:banghead:
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I asked about this at the Verizon store when I was getting a few things resolved. The response I got was that apps cannot be moved to an SD card. Only things like pics, videos, downloads, files, etc. can be stored on the SD card.
Would have been nice to know prior to purchase...
What??!! Wow that's a huge minus. Even using external apps like titanium? Smh
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Yep, word on the streets (or at least from the Verizon broad's mouth) is no apps can be moved.
That's true. We can't move apps to SD Card, i bought a 32 GB SD Card before know it.
saidddo said:
That's true. We can't move apps to SD Card, i bought a 32 GB SD Card before know it.
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I think it has something to do with the stupid reasoning to mount the internal memory as sdcard and the sdcard as external1. If someone modified the mount list to force the sdcard to be mounted as sdcard, it would probably allow apps on the real sdcard.
That's a jelly bean thing... Android removed that ability in 4.1 unfortunately
Not meaning to seem daft, but is there a specific reason that you need/want to move your apps to SD? My understanding of how Android works now means that you can use the entire onboard memory for apps... negating the need that earlier phones had to shift apps across due to lack of space.
Some games have up to1.5 gigs of data. It doesn't take that many to fill the internal memory.

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