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[APP] MyDroid - Progress Report

I am working on an application, akin to Droid Explorer, with my own tweaks and such.
Based on the idea of Droid Explorer, My Droid allows you to update your ROM, install/uninstall applications (APKs), take screen shots, view/interact with a screencast, input commands directly into the android command line, edit the file systems, browse files, etc.
UPDATE: It seems that AndoridSpin has changed their website layout for everything, which has caused me to need to rewrite the way I am parsing their page to be able to get the Download links for the ROMs. I will be working on getting this updated within the next few days.
Currently Working:
Install Single APK
Install Multiple APKs (Batch)
Backup (nandroid/nandroid+ext/bart (including backup name for bart)
Rebooting Phone (into recovery, or plain reboot)
Powering off phone
Partially Working/In Progress:
File and Directory Explorer
AndroidSpin Integration
Currently reads the ROM Database RSS Feed. Working on implementingthat data into the application.
Needed to be done:
Uninstalling APKs
Backing Up APKs (might remove due to 'theft' of paid apps)
Installing custom ROMs
The installation of Custom ROMs is going to be the big hurdle. Not because of the steps involved in the process though, thats fairly easy. But, I am going to include updating from the AndroidSpin ROM Database (as you can see in the menus). That will parse the RSS and Summary feeds of the ROM Datbase, and you can pick/choose the ROM of your liking. It will download it, and do the installation for you, including wiping the appropriate partitions and such.
As I progress further into development, I will also include things such as "screencast", to control your phone completely from the computer, as well as screenshots, debugging, etc.
I am hoping for an initial 'pre-pre-alpha' release shortly
Download: Not Yet Available
Any questions/comments/ideas/etc would be greatly appreciated!

Pre-requisites for installing?
Will there need to be anything installed prior to this package? Will this be a seamless process from download to altering system files? I have had issues with Droid Explorer and Windows Vista, and i could never get adb to work right.
It would be very nice to have an app like this while keeping it simple. For the people who cant figure out multiple installations/drivers and such.

This would (does) require that ADB be installed (with the correct drivers) for your system. ADB should also be in your %PATH% so that the application can utilize it. I will also add an option to specify the path for ADB so that you do not have to put it into your %PATH%

Looks great! If you'd like any help testing, I'd be glad to help.
Also, keep the ability to backup. If some users choose to use it for the wrong reasons, then that's a problem with their own morality. For the rest of us, constantly cooking roms and playing with new builds, being able to easily backup and restore all of our apps is a god-send.
It's nice to have a tool that does everything you need, not just some
Again, looks great so far

Hopefully yours will work with Vista 64bit. I have adb installed and working but Droid Explorer still doesnt work currently.

Joe333x said:
Hopefully yours will work with Vista 64bit. I have adb installed and working but Droid Explorer still doesnt work currently.
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I do not have a 64 bit machine to test this on, but seeing as it is being written strictly in .Net, and not using any 3rd party libraries, I do not see why it should be an issue.
If anyone knows of any complications that the .Net framework has with any certain functions on a 64 bit system, let me know, so I can attempt to program in appropriate work-arounds for the 64 bit crowd.

[email protected] said:
I have had issues with Droid Explorer and Windows Vista, and i could never get adb to work right.
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I had these issues as well. My ADB was working just fine in Vista, then I installed Droid Explorer and ADB stopped working, it stopped recognizing that my device was there. Yet, ADB works just fine in my laptop.

It looks interesting I'm waiting for download link

jmhecker said:
I am working on an application, akin to Droid Explorer, with my own tweaks and such.
Features:
snip snip
Backing Up APKs (might remove due to 'theft' of paid apps)
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if you disable this feature...people will just find another way to steal paid apps(its not the hardest task).... just sayin
i say you keep it

PanPiotr said:
It looks interesting I'm waiting for download link
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That might be a while. I have a long way to go to even consider an alpha release, heh.
jamezelle said:
if you disable this feature...people will just find another way to steal paid apps(its not the hardest task).... just sayin
i say you keep it
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Okay, y'all twisted my arm, I'll add that feature

Hmmm looks pretty promising, wouldnt mind tryin it, n am I the only 1 who thinks this is the wrong section? This should be in the Apps section

i also thought creating such app, i wanted to start working at it these days but it seems someone else already doing it, keep the good works, cheers

AsaSpades said:
Hmmm looks pretty promising, wouldnt mind tryin it, n am I the only 1 who thinks this is the wrong section? This should be in the Apps section
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No you're not only one, I'm also think this is wrong section.

Just a quick update:
Progress is coming along nicely. A lot of features are implemented as of now, but not enough to constitute an alpha or beta release.
What I am currently working on is the parsing of the AndroidSpin database (using their RSS feed). That progress is coming along great, just a few hiccups.
Any other feature requests besides what I have listed in the OP?
And for those complaining that this is in the wrong section, please clarify as to where you think it should be, so I can be sure that future posts go to there.

Okay, time is coming close for a Beta.
I have finished the AndroidSpin RSS portion. I have successfully used my application to browse the ROMs (categorized by phone) from the AndroidSpin RSS feed, selected a rom, downloaded it, copied it to the SD card, rebooted into recovery, performed a nandroid and bart backup, wiped all 3 items(system/dalvik/ext), installed the new ROM, and rebooted, without ever having to touch my phone.
I need to do some code cleanup in that area to streamline the process, but at least I know it works
After I streamline the ROM upgrade process, I am going to work on getting things like screenshots, screencasting, etc, working as they should. Nothing really difficult with any of that, but just time consuming to get it all pieced together properly.
I am hoping for a beta release sometime soon.

any progress?

looks good.. now will this be open source?

Beta testers wanted: NES, tool to manage data partition

Update 03/08/11
NotEnoughSpace has finally graduated to the Android Marketplace!
Beta testers can currently get it at its "thank you" price of $0.99.
I will set the regular price in a week so hurry
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Note #1: your phone needs to be ROOTED to use this application.
Note #2: so far, only tested on Droid Incredible and HTC Desire.
From the built-in help:
About this application
This application's goal is to help you understand and possibly work around a common vexation of using Android; i.e. these messages:
"not enough space"
"Low on space. Application data space is low."
What is happening?
You've checked your phone's vitals and it appears that it has plenty of space left, both internal storage and SD Card storage. So, what's happening?
Android allows your applications to store their data, primarily, in a dedicated partition whose size happens to be much smaller than even the phone's internal storage space. Generally south of 150 MBs.
This is the partition that fills up so quickly and that Android has been complaining about.
And the help goes on and on so I'll stop here.
The short version
Using this application, you can see which applications use up most of your phone's data space and decide what to do with them.
You can also move the biggest directories to the phone's SD Card.
Additionally, you can use the app to cleanup the Dalvik cache but it's not the app's primary function.
Please, help test it!
I will gladly welcome any constructive criticism; I expect most of it to be along the lines of "The tool is not quite accurate" and that's what I wish to address first.
To create a debug report (these are very important):
Simply select the "Debug" menu and follow the on-screen instructions.
The whole email business is so that you can copy/paste from a desktop client.
The .apk can be downloaded from nexus.zteo.com/projects/beta/
Update 12/04/10
The application should now display correct stats for phones/ROMs that use Busybox. If you have already tested it and it said "NaN" please try it again.

This should be interesting, maybe kinda Android GpartED?

cyansmoker said:
Using this application, you can see which applications use up most of your phone's data space and decide what to do with them.
You can also move the biggest directories to the phone's SD Card.
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Curious, does this mean you can move and symlink data, or are you talking about Froyo Apps2SD?
teorouge said:
This should be interesting, maybe kinda Android GpartED?
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Obviously not, he's managing what's there, he's not partitioning anything.. Did you read?

khaytsus said:
Obviously not, he's managing what's there, he's not partitioning anything.. Did you read?
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Come on, what's the matter dude? I did read, and from what I read I thought whole partition handling was the only thing this app would be missing. Single files is a good start, but making that "kinda GpartED" would be killer. Though I fear you should be in bootloader/recovery to work on those, don't know how Android deals with them (i.e. in Windows you have programs you can change partitions size "on the fly" with). Now that I elaborated more, are you still angry?

This application would be genius. I'm wondering however, will the phone still be able to access that data once it is moved off of the system memory and onto the SD Card? And is it possible to actually partition the /data/data section so that it will use more than the allowed 150mb that it has, like open it up so that instead of it being partitioned to a small amount, it just roams free with the rest of the 748mb or whatever that is in the system memory.

A promising app, thanks.
Navigon, however, doesn't like its data to be moved to SD card. Even after moving it back with the app, it FCs (Android 2.1). I think I have to reinstall. So be careful if you're trying to do the same.
Edit: After reinstalling the .apk (without doing anything with the maps), Navigon works again. The packet installer didn't ask me if I wanted to replace the existing installation (as is otherwise usual in such a case).
Edit2: There seems to be a general problem. The next app I tried was mediaU. It has a large database which I moved (using NES) to the SD card. It also FCed after having moved its database, and restoring to the old location (again using NES) also didn't succeed. No error message during restore, but app still won't run.
Phone: Galaxy 3, Android 2.1 (original ROM).

mizch said:
A promising app, thanks.
Navigon, however, doesn't like its data to be moved to SD card. Even after moving it back with the app, it FCs (Android 2.1). I think I have to reinstall. So be careful if you're trying to do the same.
Edit: After reinstalling the .apk (without doing anything with the maps), Navigon works again. The packet installer didn't ask me if I wanted to replace the existing installation (as is otherwise usual in such a case).
Edit2: There seems to be a general problem. The next app I tried was mediaU. It has a large database which I moved (using NES) to the SD card. It also FCed after having moved its database, and restoring to the old location (again using NES) also didn't succeed. No error message during restore, but app still won't run.
Phone: Galaxy 3, Android 2.1 (original ROM).
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Tonight I'm gonna try for sure and report back, this does look promising! Did you succeed with some apps?

teorouge said:
Did you succeed with some apps?
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K9 seemed to work. However, I had to reflash for another reason, and now K9 reports its lib as being in the standard location (reported by NES). For now, I have stopped testing NotEnoughSpace so I can not say more.

mizch said:
K9 seemed to work. However, I had to reflash for another reason, and now K9 reports its lib as being in the standard location (reported by NES). For now, I have stopped testing NotEnoughSpace so I can not say more.
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eh? K9 has native use of the SD card if you enable it... Why would you use this on it?

Thanks for doing this testing, guys.
I will install these apps and test them myself.
teorouge: you moved the database/ directory, is that it?
mizch: so, you re-installed K9 after reflashing, right?
Everybody: what about the "free space" numbers reported by the app? Do they seem correct to you? I had to use a dedicated algo to compute them, taking block size in account, and I've had reports of fairly surprising discrepancies.

Free space doesn't seem to update after moving, though I see the difference in the Titanium Backup count: tried for a couple of apps (G Earth and well... don't remember!) and it did move everything, free up space on /data and I can still use those apps. Still afraid to move many apps, just moving one at the time and test.

I just tested it out on my Droid 1, which is running CM6.1RC5 (Not sure if thats relevant or not), and it doesnt seem to work very well on my phone. All apps came back as 4KB, at the top it showed this... Total:261.8MB Used:NaNKB Free: 259.1MB Database NaNKB Files: NaNKB Preferences:NaNKB Cache:NaNKB.
Heres the debug report: 1:/dev/block/mtdblock6 268032 224572 43460 84% /data
2:62855 /data/data
3:4096/0/265352

Sorry - never mind; found the info in FAQ.txt after downloading
cyansmoker said:
Note #1: your phone needs to be ROOTED to use this application.
Note #2: so far, only tested on Droid Incredible and HTC Desire.
From the built-in help:
About this application
This application's goal is to help you understand and possibly work around a common vexation of using Android; i.e. these messages:
"not enough space"
"Low on space. Application data space is low."
What is happening?
You've checked your phone's vitals and it appears that it has plenty of space left, both internal storage and SD Card storage. So, what's happening?
Android allows your applications to store their data, primarily, in a dedicated partition whose size happens to be much smaller than even the phone's internal storage space. Generally south of 150 MBs.
This is the partition that fills up so quickly and that Android has been complaining about.
And the help goes on and on so I'll stop here.
The short version
Using this application, you can see which applications use up most of your phone's data space and decide what to do with them.
You can also move the biggest directories to the phone's SD Card.
Additionally, you can use the app to cleanup the Dalvik cache but it's not the app's primary function.
Please, help test it!
I will gladly welcome any constructive criticism; I expect most of it to be along the lines of "The tool is not quite accurate" and that's what I wish to address first.
To create a debug report:
Simply select the "Debug" menu and follow the on-screen instructions.
The whole email business is so that you can copy/paste from a desktop client.
The .apk can be downloaded from nexus.zteo.com/projects/beta/
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Do you have more details about this program anywhere? I went to the download page but see no further info...

Help Section Typo
Under A Quick user guide in your user guide(?) that prompts when you run the apk for the first time there is a typo in the last sentence:
You can touch any application to explore its content and figure out what is taking up some much space.
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So far I havent run into any issues with the apk...

Not to burst anyones bubble, but Choose Install Location has been doing this in a comprehensive way for weeks. http://www.appbrain.com/app/choose-install-location-free/com.beidl.chooseloc

Free Memory?
bdt1995 said:
I just tested it out on my Droid 1, which is running CM6.1RC5 (Not sure if thats relevant or not), and it doesnt seem to work very well on my phone. All apps came back as 4KB, at the top it showed this... Total:261.8MB Used:NaNKB Free: 259.1MB Database NaNKB Files: NaNKB Preferences:NaNKB Cache:NaNKB.
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I'm having the same problem as bdt1995. Running CM 6.1 RC1.. the only difference is the total memory is 196.2 and the free is:194.3 MB cuz I'm using a Nexus.. CM6 might be the problem?

bdt1995 said:
I just tested it out on my Droid 1, which is running CM6.1RC5 (Not sure if thats relevant or not), and it doesnt seem to work very well on my phone. All apps came back as 4KB, at the top it showed this... Total:261.8MB Used:NaNKB Free: 259.1MB Database NaNKB Files: NaNKB Preferences:NaNKB Cache:NaNKB.
Heres the debug report: 1:/dev/block/mtdblock6 268032 224572 43460 84% /data
2:62855 /data/data
3:4096/0/265352
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Same here (total 196.2MB, Free 194.3MB, all apps 4KB), system details in my sig. Using apps2sdext, over 200 apps.
Debug info:
Code:
1:/dev/block/mtdblock5 200960 112144 88816 56% /data
2:96070 /data/data
3:4096/0/198951

Same problem as above with Cyanogen 6.02, However it looks promising.
I Think that moving data to standard SD can leads to security issue, because SD can be readed and written by any apps. Should be better if the app recognize /EXT partition, if exist, and move data here.

i'd like to try it and i get my lil sis to try it also she gets this problem a lot i have the droid incredible and my sis has the droid eris.

bdt1995, rnh16, britoso, mmorselli:
Thanks for the debug info. Indeed Cyanogen is a tad "exotic" for NES at this point.
Please download the latest version of NES -- I just uploaded it. It contains an extra debug line which should allow me to make it work so please paste your debug output here one more time.
JerseyFF:
Oops, thanks.
lhinsz:
Because it is a beta version, it hasn't been released yet and all the information you may need is contained in the Help screen. I tried to make it comprehensive.
BigNate:
Should work with HTC devices, yes. Could you or you sister paste her phone's debug screen here?
Zandog:
I do not think that both apps share the same goal so no lives should be lost (Seriously, not much of a bubble to burst?)

[Q] Internal Storage Full Issue

So I check my Xoom out this morning and Boom "Low on Space 'Tablet storage space is getting low'. It is impossible that I filled all of the space. I looked at my breakup and i have about 6Gb of music and it says the rest is completely full due to applications. I look at my applications but I only have about 3GB worth of application and data attributed to saves (manually counting). For the most part, besides the stock honeycomb apps, these apps are the same that I have on my Droid1. Which has much smaller storage. Somehow some app is taking up all the space (which i can't identify), the OS is corrupted, or I have a virus. Everything else has been pretty mainstream applications.
I have the OTA update and my Xoom has never been rooted.
Is anyone else having this problem?

A lot of people got this issue. It is being discussed in the Motorola official Xoom forum. But still no one know what's the root cause.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

gogol said:
A lot of people got this issue. It is being discussed in the Motorola official Xoom forum. But still no one know what's the root cause.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Thank you for the quick response. I guess its good to know I'm not the only one. Hopefully it gets fixed soon.

The link to the issue on the moto forums is
https://supportforums.motorola.com/thread/46601?start=0&tstart=30

Hi Everyone,
For those users not yet experiencing this but wants to see whats going on, I made a video. There is also a way to check to see if this is occurring to you by checking out your internal storage on the Xoom.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWFeq0Qj3iA

Is there anyone else experiencing this issue on their Xoom?
It happened to me last night while playing WordFeud. I get the two line message "Low on space" and "Tablet storage space is getting low"
There is no way that I am using 25 gig in applications.
Thanks,
Dan

My initial guess is that it is Application specific. My xoom has 628Mb for Applications. I think maybe some app that each of you is using is continuing to pull in data and not deleting it over time. Maybe something like a news stream or something else. I would chat with the others having this problem and see what similar apps you have.
Just a thought. Sounds odd, I agree.. but.. a place to start. Maybe akin to a memory leak.

Thanks for the quick reply, eaglecomm. Your suggestion makes sense. In looking around a little this morning, I see that some people thought it might be the Google Body app, which I had installed. I uninstalled it, but it didn't make a difference.
It turns out that there is a fix coming in the next update.
The thread is at the Motorola Owners Forum titled 'XOOM Storage is Full' problem - 47 apps takes up 27 GB?
Since I am a new member here, I cannot post the actual link.
I thought I would post this info for any other Xoom owners that are have this concern.
I am glad to see it is being addessed.
Thanks,
Dan

My Xoom is not indicating that it is low on storage, but the applications do seem to be taking up an inordinate amount of space. Funky little bug.
On a positive note, it is good to know that the functionality of this device will only get better over time.

Tombstones
Are any of you able to look at the sizes of the files in /data/tombstones? I had the same problem and did some digging and found a tombstone file that is 19 GB. It appears to have been generated by a browser crash. If any of you are having the problem can you open a terminal and go to /data/tombstones and find the biggest file and type cat (name of biggest file) and tell us the name of the process (listed after pid). You may need to be rooted and may need busybox for cat to work. I doubt it's only the browser... I'm curious to know if it's a honeycomb thing with how it tombstones app crashes.

Have you tried using a cache cleaner ? I use 1 Tap Cleaner and Fast Cache Cleaner .

Try using DiskUsage to view what is using up your storage. If you're rooted it gives you even more options to view specific folders. If you've ever used WinDirStat then this is the closest thing android has to it that I've found.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage

Although Moto is promising an update "soon" to fix this, the problem has been getting reported on for over 45 days now. Some people were hit with this early and some more recently - like myself. This one was sort of the last straw for me. I had to do a factory reset on mine (in Settings) in order to resolve this issue; which hasn't reared its ugly head again since. However, between that mess, and no SD card, SMS, etc, I finally got fed up and rooted mine so that I could use the Tiamat kernel and at least add a 32 GB SD card in the slot provided. Rooting also allowed for Clockwork Recovery (which I love) so making modifications is much easier. If and when Motorizon decides to provide us with the 4G update, then I'll flash it back to stock. However, in the right here and now, I needed a tablet for my work and didn't have the luxury to sit around with my hands tied and wait for Moto to finally have pity on us and provide what they hyped us with. The XOOM has become too integral a part of my work and home life. The product answered a lot of needs - some I didn't even realize that I had. I'll just have to do the extra step now of flashing back to stock when (and if) update time finally comes around. Until then, I'm moving forward and I've got WORK to do!! Yippee kyy-yaayyyy!!

I have this problem and looked in my folders trying to find large files using ES File Explorer. I have found a repeating set of folders here:
/sys/module/usbhid/drivers/hid:generic-usb/module/drivers/hid:generic-usb/module
These folders keep going and going and going. I tried to look at the properties of the sys/module folder but the file size kept going and going and going. I ran it all night and it was still running in the morning at 1.25GB and counting. Is it safe to delete the repeating set of folders? Does anyone know what these folders are used for?
Deanne

DeanneJensen said:
I have this problem and looked in my folders trying to find large files using ES File Explorer. I have found a repeating set of folders here:
/sys/module/usbhid/drivers/hid:generic-usb/module/drivers/hid:generic-usb/module
These folders keep going and going and going. I tried to look at the properties of the sys/module folder but the file size kept going and going and going. I ran it all night and it was still running in the morning at 1.25GB and counting. Is it safe to delete the repeating set of folders? Does anyone know what these folders are used for?
Deanne
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Looks to me like a recursive bug where the folder or device is continually being created inside itself, it would cause everything from unstable os to complete unresponsiveness and even filling up the storage.
Macbots drool as I XOOM through the Galaxy to my hearts Desire.

[XOOM 2] Xoom 2 Software Frustration

Connected the Xoom 2, to a windows 7 machine.
Insists on letting installing 'Motocast' which I let it...what a complete pile of shi*.
I want to 'sync' a 700MB .avi video, over usb cable, to the device...estimated time? 30 minutes!!! I swear this complete toss of software is insisting to re-encode the entire file to some bullsh*t format of their choice. Is there an option to turn this off and transfer it natively?
Secondly, thankfully, it also installs native 'portable' device drivers, allowing Windows 7 file explorer to browse the device. Great, so I copy the same .avi file and paste it to the device...'Do you want to copy xyz.avi? Your device might not be able to play this file' I am prompted...'yes' I click. Just as it finishes copying (after about 4 minutes...much better) it bombs out, notifying me that because the device cannot play this file it is cancelling the transfer...wtf?!?!
The only interim solution i've found is renaming the extension '.avi' to something like '.proprietrysoftwarecansuckmyballs', copying it, then renaming it back to '.avi' once transfer has completed solves this.
So can anyone offer any 'clean' solutions to my file transfer woes? If theres no improvement, this device will be getting returned next week, which is a shame as the tablet is a great bit of kit, its just a shame the software blows.

Look for "Wi-Fi File Explorer" in the market.

This looks like it only transfers over wifi?
I need to transfer over usb cable.

Had this problem myself, looks like it doesn't come with the drivers. After a bit of searching, I found that the standard driver package works:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...al_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.0.53_Driver_5.2.0.exe
Installed that, unplug the USB cable and put it back in - should work fine!

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Had this problem myself, looks like it doesn't come with the drivers. After a bit of searching, I found that the standard driver package works:
http://www.motorola.com/staticfiles...al_Drivers/MotoHelper_2.0.53_Driver_5.2.0.exe
Installed that, unplug the USB cable and put it back in - should work fine!
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Hey thanks man, that worked a treat.
Just for clarification, does you still prompt you that the device may not support playback of the file, but then successfully transfer it (whereby it would previously error at the last second)?

No idea - haven't had that particular part of the issue myself - the main thing I had was the slowness...

I am a linux user ... i will only have the option to upload files via wifi network ?

I have a Xoom 2 ME and the only way to copy a large movie file to the device was adb.
adb push foo.txt /sdcard/foo.txt
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That's the only usb-way i come up with. I'am on snow leopard and Google's Android File Copy tool does not work.

elster said:
I have a Xoom 2 ME and the only way to copy a large movie file to the device was adb.
That's the only usb-way i come up with. I'am on snow leopard and Google's Android File Copy tool does not work.
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I guess the same way will work to linux too . Xoom2 has only one partition on the disk ? that the reason not to be able to mount it as a normal usb ? If you root the device is the anyway to great a small 2 Gb for ex partition to use it for easy transfer ?
Off topic about xoom 2 ME . How good the screen and and the battery life are ?

Useless tablet ?
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...

OldBeurt said:
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...
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You probably hit it on the head about the Netflix certification. I would think about returning it, man.

a solution ?
Thanks to a French forum (frandroid, in the Xoom 2 topic... sorry I can't send links here), I tested a solution to the transfer problem: It is possible to use (on the computer) a server to share the files such as a samba server.
It works fine. But it's not as easy to browse, select, copy and paste file with explorers on the tablet than it is on computers (several windows, keyboard shortcuts such as Ctrl-c/v, and so on).
But it's now possible to exchange files with the Xoom 2ME without going through a cloud or using Windows/motoCast.

mdcykkk9 said:
Off topic about xoom 2 ME . How good the screen and and the battery life are ?
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Sorry for answering so late.
The screen is quite good.
The battery life is terrible compared to my ipad2. Charging needs a lot of time and is very slow. I guess it's because of mini usb only.
Currently i'am using the device as a Kindle Fire replacement, because off the lightweight (KF is heavier and bulky). The books i usually read have more weight than the device itself.
I like it for that.
But i may not be a good adviser because my device is a prototype. It is not smooth and the speakers are terrible.
I think 8,2" is the perfect size for me. The weight is so much better than any other tablet i had.

OldBeurt said:
In fact it's worst!
As a Linux User I hoped being able to use MTP... But I tried mtpfs and mtp-tools on several distributions without any luck.
But what is worse is that FTP server applications won't work too! I tried SwiFTP, FTPServer, and some other: the servers are not reachable. It appears that not even a single ping can reach the tablet. I think Motorala have put some kind of firewall in it (maybe it has something to do with the netflix HD certification?).
For me this tablet is actually useless. If I can't find a way to transfer some files on it without using MotoCast today or tomorrow, I will bring it back to the supplier...
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Try using a terminal on the Xoom 2 and ping the computer you're trying to connect to, while pinging your Xoom 2 from that computer at the same time. It's like you have to force them to see each other before they can start connecting in future.

I used fileexpert to see and download files with smb shared folder on Ubuntu Linux without a problem.
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[Q] how to find a corrupter file in tablet?

i've returned 2 note pro's thinking they were defective and realising now that the issue of rebooting was due to a corrupted file in my system, i have identified it is one of my comics files i had stored years ago on cd disc, the problem is there are like 1000 comics i can't check each one individually.. does anyone know of an app or a way to scan the tablet to find the rogue corrupt file?
originally when it caused the reboot the comics were stored on my sd card, the second time stored in the device storage and third time in device storage again.. apart from checking one by one is there a short cut way that will tell me which file is damaged?
i know years ago i remember encountering one of the comics would not open that was the corrupt file however i cannot remember which one it was it was years ago i last checked.

A simple corrupted non system file shouldn't be causing the issue. However a simple look at file sizes may point to an issue, it may be more related to filename structure if very long or has non standard naming conventions not used in Unix.
If you have the files on cd and are moving over just move a portion over at a time to narrow the problem down.
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Connect it to a computer and let explorer search for 0kb files. Ignore the .nomedia and playlist files.
Any mediafiles that show up as 0kb are corrupt.
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rodnok1 said:
A simple corrupted non system file shouldn't be causing the issue. However a simple look at file sizes may point to an issue, it may be more related to filename structure if very long or has non standard naming conventions not used in Unix.
If you have the files on cd and are moving over just move a portion over at a time to narrow the problem down.
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Thanks maybe it is a file name issue. Im definitely sure it's the comics as all 3 have rebooted constantly because of iti just cant figure out wht it is. Is a filename which is too long likely to cause reboot?
i know it's not a software or firmware issue per se but i can't figure it out what's causing the reboot. Whenevr i play videos and lock the screen it reboots but it's only after i transferred the comics over

What would be considered a non standard naming structure..it is baffling why it keeps rebooting im transferring the comics away now to see if it stops

Only alphabet, numbers, underscores and dashes should be used, spaces are not great(depends on what you are doing). basically nothing else should be used(there are exceptions depending on Unix version but this is Linux) or Linux will hate the naming convention. Dots are fine also.
Did you load a comic app to read these or are they just. Jpg or similiar?
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Only alphabet, numbers, underscores and dashes should be used, spaces are not great
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Lolwhut... :laugh:
I have about 80.000 pdf's and comics in one folder. ALL have spaces in the name.
Comics are usually in cbr, cbz (both are .zip variants) or pdf format. Can you honestly imagine having to load every single page in jpg? Lol.
Exclude the folder from mediascanner by dropping a .nomedia file in it, and scan the thing with Windows Explorer or Apple Finder for 0kb files. (regular search, in english the string is size:empty ) That should be more than sufficient.

ShadowLea said:
Lolwhut... :laugh:
I have about 80.000 pdf's and comics in one folder. ALL have spaces in the name.
Comics are usually in cbr, cbz (both are .zip variants) or pdf format. Can you honestly imagine having to load every single page in jpg? Lol.
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Being unfamilar with how comics are stored is why I asked...
Spaces can be problematic based on operating system and interface, Unix nor Linux like them so I avoid at all costs. Just because an app allows you to read them doesn't mean it cannot be an issue.
Unix interpretes a space as space between commands when using command line, since OP problem may be when files are being read outside shot a weird combo is actually causing an issue.
When switching between Windows, Unix, VMS worlds and having them all need to read all files properly either from web servers being hosted on them or from applications being run locally, spaces are one of the biggest issues. That and forward and back slashes.

rodnok1 said:
Only alphabet, numbers, underscores and dashes should be used, spaces are not great(depends on what you are doing). basically nothing else should be used(there are exceptions depending on Unix version but this is Linux) or Linux will hate the naming convention. Dots are fine also.
Did you load a comic app to read these or are they just. Jpg or similiar?
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they are scanned comics from the 90s i had the stored for about 10years theyre .cbr files optimised for reading in comic apps like perfect viewer.
do you have any idea what is causing the reboot? ive removed the files now no more reboot..very frustrating.

f sake it seems the reboot is back despite removing all the comics...not as much as before only once since this morning howeve it is back..it didnt happen once when i got the tablet till up till putting the comics in..however i havent really been using the tablet since then watching videos or doing anything intensive tbh so it's hard to say the cause..do you think it's definitely a rogue app or firmware issue rather than hardware?
this is the 3rd tablet i have had the first one kept rebooting all the time..i updated to the latest firmware and disabled all the apps i could that i dont use.. on my replacement i kept it as simple as possible i kept the original firmware but did not disable any apps let it run as normal as possible but did add the comics in..in the morning it rebooted.. so i returned it. now this one is the third time and it's so annnoying i have to think that if ALL 3 are rebooting it cant be a hardware issue right? i cant be that unlucky that all 3 have hardware issues so surely it must be right to assume it is all firmware related etc?
it is such hassle doing factory reset each time sorting it out one by one filling in passwords etc.. that it doesnt look like i can resolve it now.. the comics are removed yet it still is rebootin for all i know the device would have reboot had i did more ram intensive stuff like watching videos..am i just going to have to accept it? being thankful it isnt a hardware issue.
ironically my second tablet didnt screen flicker when i was using the original firmware

Short of factory reset not sure how you're going to narrow it down to hardware/firmware or software.
If you removed offending app and comics completely and dalvik cache was wiped it eliminates that..

F sake i did a factory reset yet it is still rebooting it seems to be after ram intensive stuff this cant be right? It can't be hardware because all 3 have done it i just can't figure out what's causing it it has 3gb ram nd power saving is off why does it keep rebooting?
I think maybe the sd card may have some things in it from the comics but i removed the sd card and it still randomly reboots could my contacts crashing be the reason? I disabled contacts and contacts storage as i do not need itif idont it keeps bri gingup the warning unfortunately contacts has stopped.

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Short of factory reset not sure how you're going to narrow it down to hardware/firmware or software.
If you removed offending app and comics completely and dalvik cache was wiped it eliminates that..
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im not rooted so cant do dalvik wipe. Wht on earth could be causing it?
like i said ithas been fine since i got it before i put the comics in i removed the comics factory reset and it keeps rebooting still what the hell i honestly can't figure this out all 3 did the same thing im about to give up

I'm not sure what you are doing after a factory reset but what I would do is remove any SD card and do a factory reset again. I would not allow restoration of any other software (when you get to the portion of setup where it asks if you want to automatically backup and restore day no) and I would simply run the device bare bones for a day or two without installing anything to rule out any application that I might be installing.
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ok so i rebooted a 2nd time (jeez im getting fed up of this) and did not load the sd card just incase i also decided to set up a brand new gmail account so that it does not sync my contacts from the other google account in case that was the issue.
so far so good. i also formatted the sd card did not transfer the comics over and all is good.. now i do not know whether it is indeed the comics or whether it's because of my contacts storage on the other google account i originally used.. and i dont really want to test it to find out..originally when i used the previous google account and did not add any comics it did not reboot once.. so what's weird is after the first factory reset where i did not format the sd card as soon as i left it in the sd slot it casued the reboot later no matter what i did.. how the hell is this thing so sensitive that it reboots just by having the sd card in..its like there's a file in there that as soon as u put the sd card in it causes a reboot.. remeber i removed all the comics from the sd card previously and the device and it kept rebooting inexplicably..
so right now i can't figure out if it's the fact i formatted the sd card and factory resetted it or whether it's because i use a new google account?
do any of you guys know how or why something as innocuous as comic books or remnants of it in the sd card is causing a reboot?

Given that the best way to troubleshoot technical issues is to approach things in a logical fashion it's important to isolate things one at a time. You can either do that by removing one thing at a time OR by starting fresh and adding things one at a time.
Just to explain my previous post . . . if someone asks the question at times like this whether or not it's a hardware issue the first thing I jump to is to yank the SD card, factory reset (personally I prefer a full wipe to stock using Kies and a factory image file) and then to NOT install anything on the device . . that right there is fresh out of the box experience with no external influences other than any updates to preinstalled applications. If a person has the same issues with that then there's likely a hardware issue. Sometimes I see people assuming that they're not installing software after initial setup when in fact they are when they opt into Google's automatic backup/restore feature during lyncing to their Gmail account during setup. Its rare but it happens and at that point they're not evaluating a stock out of box experience, obviously.
Back to your last post . . its possible that your SD card has a bad sector on it and the act of formatting it simply erased files that would otherwise be scanned by media server/index services which was causing the reboot. One way to rule that out would be to use a computer and try to do memory testing of the card.

It can be difficult to narrow these issues down, as said I would run bone stock with no sdcard for a few days not even adding a Google account or any updates and see what happens. Google updates have caused me a few issues on other devices when updating an app and needed reinstalled even to clean things up is why i suggested no updating anything. The system is not going to scan the sdcard or use data off it unless called upon to do so. Adding sdcard and if a problem still switch to another even.
Recently a friend had a card that would only read certain movie files and then if reloaded onto card wouldn't read it then. Card was found to be bad(well it works for some files anyways) didn't show bad sectors either.
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thanks for the advice.
well guys the tablet hasn't rebooted since meaning it must have been something in the comics which as soon as you add it to sd card or device storage and even if you remove all it's contents still leaves a lasting effect unless i format the sd card and factory reset.. i hate factory reseting it's such hassle going one by one spending days trying bit by bit when it really should just work out of the box with no problem.. however this prob isnt a samsung fault it's a rogue file or something in my comics folder which i cant figure out what it is?
do you know anyway i can scan the comics folder which is now on my laptop so i can fix it for any errors?
i bought this tablet specifically for reading comics and now i can't haha otherwise it'll reboot like crazy.. yes i know it's not the tablets fault it's my comics fold3er of scans where i cant identify the thing which is casuing conflict.. would checkdisk work?
im just fed up because i returned my original black wasted loads of petrol going round tryna find the same colour elsewhere ended up with white returned that and had to travel other part of town for the last black one and in process it's ended up costing me an extra 15 pounds total to get it as i lost the cashback i got buying the original and returning it plus the petrol plus also by returning i lost a goodwill refund.
anyway on plus side this one has less backlight bleed so pleased with that however the screen flickering issue concerned me which the other 2 did not have.. i've updated the firmware so no more flickering during video playback however i dont use high brightness so hard to say.. i do see random flickers from time to time but i think it may be slight glitches so bit paranoid.
anyway what is the best way to scan my comics folder in windows to identify bad sectors or anything corrupt that would cause the note pro to reboot?
i dont want to put comics back on or even read from a separate sd card as the evidence shows it'll reboot again unless i get to the root cause.