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[Q] Restoring through CWM to stock

hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help

vdpraneeth said:
hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help
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1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.

NHS2008 said:
1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.

NHS2008 said:
1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??

vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.

NHS2008 said:
No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.
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but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)

41rw4lk said:
Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.
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how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap

vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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I don't think any recovery exist after flashing a new rom. We have a locked bootloader, so we can't replace the stock recovery.img, all of our recoveries hijack the boot process to work. CM10 and PA I believe have a built in recovery, and that's about as close as you'll get to having a recovery exist after flashing a rom.
As far as restoring from JB, I believe you can downgrade to ICS, but you'll have to look at the JB thread to be certain. I'm on AT&T so I haven't had an opportunity to try JB (officially). CM10 is based on JB, but for our phone with the locked bootloader, it's more of a pseudo experience and is based on our ICS framework.
As for bricking, there is always a chance to brick, that's part of the mod game, but if you read and pay attention to what you have and what you're doing, you'll be alright.

vdpraneeth said:
but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)
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UNLESS you have AT&T phone you should be just fine with ref lashing the ICS.
YES. there is a big problem if you are not on a ROM you are restoring.
Its like you are trying to comlete your jigsaw puzzle by putting pieces from some another jigsaw puzzle.

vdpraneeth said:
how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap
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You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.

41rw4lk said:
You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.
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yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??

vdpraneeth said:
yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??
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Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.

41rw4lk said:
Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.
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thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you

vdpraneeth said:
thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you
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CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.

41rw4lk said:
CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.
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my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??

vdpraneeth said:
my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??
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You're killing me smalls. You're on ICS already, you're not downgrading anything, nor can you downgrade ie. Gingerbread. There is no Official JB for AT&T, so that's not an issue. CM10 is a JB based rom built on an ICS frame, (for our phone at least), and again, you're not downgrading.
To make a back up, boot in to CWM or whatever recovery you're using (not stock), and click backup. You might hit up the noob thread to get an idea of the terminology and basics for our device. Not trying to be rude, but you're running yourself in circles. You got to walk before you can run.

How to re-flash stock JB rom with OTA (custom recovery)

Hi,
I have a question.
I already flash 4.1.1 via OTA and use some bloody init.d script for R/W system, that doesnt work and gives me reboot after I enter into supersu app.
My question is... how can i flash 4.1.1 again (i wanna clean system, just for better feeling.) If Im using TWRP recovery? Because, ota file doesnt contain stock recovery as RUU does and I didnt find any ruu for 4.1.1 CID_032 | villec2.
Or, can I flash OTA update as update.zip in TWRP recovery?
sorry, for my bad english.

Step 1: relock the bootloader (check out some xda forums). This is a pretty easy process.
Step 2: find your desired stock jb online.
Step 3: connect your phone to the pc (make sure you have the htc drivers installed).
Step 4: run the RUU or stock file as an exe. An installation guide will follow, just follow it through.
It should work after this!
If you have questions or run into problems, let me know!
Sent from my One S

JohnKoeMan said:
Step 1: relock the bootloader (check out some xda forums). This is a pretty easy process.
Step 2: find your desired stock jb online.
Step 3: connect your phone to the pc (make sure you have the htc drivers installed).
Step 4: run the RUU or stock file as an exe. An installation guide will follow, just follow it through.
It should work after this!
If you have questions or run into problems, let me know!
Sent from my One S
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Thanks, but I think there's misunderstanding. I know how to use adb - relock, etc.
My point is, that I have android 4.1.1 (updated via OTA) and I wanna re-flash this with same android - 4.1.1 (due to I've installed a script that doesnt work - Easy_InitD_1.1.zip... and makes me couple of reboots. And I would prefer to have a clean rom, without any "possible future" problems.
Damn, I think Im getting worse, isn't this true? =D
edit: bloody RUU for JB would solve my problem, but it doesnt exist, yet.

Impo5sible said:
Thanks, but I think there's misunderstanding. I know how to use adb - relock, etc.
My point is, that I have android 4.1.1 (updated via OTA) and I wanna re-flash this with same android - 4.1.1 (due to I've installed a script that doesnt work - Easy_InitD_1.1.zip... and makes me couple of reboots. And I would prefer to have a clean rom, without any "possible future" problems.
Damn, I think Im getting worse, isn't this true? =D
edit: bloody RUU for JB would solve my problem, but it doesnt exist, yet.
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Haha no problems friend!
I've found a link to a custom ROM using JB 4.1.1, you can look into that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1871866
Also you can instead remove TWRP (if you know how) and instead install CWM (clockworkmod).
I found CWM to work better than TWRP.
I myself am using CyanogenMod 10.1, very nice and clean, works perfectly ad has Android 4.2.1
That might also be an option if you want a clean ROM. ^^

I think you're missing something here.
The fact is that there is no original JB RUU that can be pushed to phones already after JB OTA, which updated their phone to custom ROM and want's to go back to stock now.
Running an ICS RUU will do no good since it will fail based on lower Hboot version.
My recommendation, therefore, is to use as close to stock JB ROM like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076855.
I will choose to go back to TrickDroid 9.1 if I had to.
Another option if no RUU is available is to get a nandroid done on the JB OTA just after flashing and rooting. And restore it.

orenfl said:
I think you're missing something here.
The fact is that there is no original JB RUU that can be pushed to phones already after JB OTA, which updated their phone to custom ROM and want's to go back to stock now.
Running an ICS RUU will do no good since it will fail based on lower Hboot version.
My recommendation, therefore, is to use as close to stock JB ROM like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2076855.
I will choose to go back to TrickDroid 9.1 if I had to.
Another option if no RUU is available is to get a nandroid done on the JB OTA just after flashing and rooting. And restore it.
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Since I'm facing the same problem, and there is no RUU for now, how and where to get a JB OTA nandroid... Haven't seen any around.

Impo5sible said:
Thanks, but I think there's misunderstanding. I know how to use adb - relock, etc.
My point is, that I have android 4.1.1 (updated via OTA) and I wanna re-flash this with same android - 4.1.1 (due to I've installed a script that doesnt work - Easy_InitD_1.1.zip... and makes me couple of reboots. And I would prefer to have a clean rom, without any "possible future" problems.
Damn, I think Im getting worse, isn't this true? =D
edit: bloody RUU for JB would solve my problem, but it doesnt exist, yet.
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I had the same problem and no stock jb nandroid to go back to. Luckily I kept ics nandroid in my laptop, restore that and run OTA jb update again.
There is another option. Get Zenrom ICS, check for updates, download jb, install and then do factory reset. Then root it ( superuser, busybox, modified boot.img), make system back up and keep it in pc. Then you have it safe and you can go back to it if you need full stock jb.
I hope this will help.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

tominozh said:
I had the same problem and no stock jb nandroid to go back to. Luckily I kept ics nandroid in my laptop, restore that and run OTA jb update again.
There is another option. Get Zenrom ICS, check for updates, download jb, install and then do factory reset. Then root it ( superuser, busybox, modified boot.img), make system back up and keep it in pc. Then you have it safe and you can go back to it if you need full stock jb.
I hope this will help.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app
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So I'll be able to install Zenrom ICS on JB stock with hboot 2.15?

bo6o said:
So I'll be able to install Zenrom ICS on JB stock with hboot 2.15?
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Yes, you should be. Download zenrom, reboot recovery, wipe everything a few times, flash zenrom, set it up, then recovery, flash STOCK RECOVERY ( very important), prompt for update, download, install, set up, ( you may get a few errors here and there so just do factory reset in setting-->factory reset). Then flash twrp, flash superuser, backup.
Sent from my HTC One S using xda app-developers app

back up/restore

I have h-boot 1.14 withe twrp recovery, I backed up my phone with a previous rom i had and my question is would I have to install the image again after i restore the phone or should the phone restore without any problems.

cal4877 said:
I have h-boot 1.14 withe twrp recovery, I backed up my phone with a previous rom i had and my question is would I have to install the image again after i restore the phone or should the phone restore without any problems.
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Most of the time yes you will have to install the boot .img manually coming from a different base or Rom... But say if you're on viper and your back up is the same base sense Rom you probably wouldn't have to reflash it... But if coming from cm10 or anything else yes

a box of kittens said:
Most of the time yes you will have to install the boot .img manually coming from a different base or Rom... But say if you're on viper and your back up is the same base sense Rom you probably wouldn't have to reflash it... But if coming from cm10 or anything else yes
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Awesome thanks man, also im currently running nocturnals dirty rom I believe this is a AOKP rom, now if i want to flash another AOKP or any other CM10 base rom wouldnt the image be the same? or the i have to flash another image of the rom aswell?

cal4877 said:
Awesome thanks man, also im currently running nocturnals dirty rom I believe this is a AOKP rom, now if i want to flash another AOKP or any other CM10 base rom wouldnt the image be the same? or the i have to flash another image of the rom aswell?
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Be safe and flash it

Is it necessary to reflash rom before restore or can you just fastboot flash boot.IMG and just restore backup?
Sent from my One X using xda premium

I believe you have to flash boot. IMG and than restore according to the comments up there

I just wish we had to option to downgrade the software/hboot without going thru all those steps listed, I remeber i had the htc inspire and you will be able to downgrade hboot by choosing a downgraded version of Ruuu files.

cal4877 said:
I just wish we had to option to downgrade the software/hboot without going thru all those steps listed, I remeber i had the htc inspire and you will be able to downgrade hboot by choosing a downgraded version of Ruuu files.
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Yeah I loved the inspire that's what got me into android... But I got my phone on hboot 1.09 I've never done the downgrade process but I heard it can be pretty simple

OTA but keep Root?

Hey im tryinna OTA update my One S its at Android Version 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 and i have an OTA ive had it for a while now. How could i update it and keep my root? Or if i install a higher version custom rom will it brick my phone?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U

Br00talBean said:
Hey im tryinna OTA update my One S its at Android Version 4.0.4 Sense 4.1 and i have an OTA ive had it for a while now. How could i update it and keep my root? Or if i install a higher version custom rom will it brick my phone?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U
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not sure what you mean with your last sentence... but:
in my case the ota deleted my root. but I also recommend to do a factory reset after updating to 4.1 sense 4+, just to be sure that you have a clean jb rom (do titanium backups of your apps you wanna keep).
but you have to be on stock recovery if you want to apply the ota.
after your update you can root your phone again.
applying the ota wont have any effect on flashing a higher / newer custom rom.
you only have to be unlocked and on custom recovery. but you alawys have to flash the boot.img of the custom rom after flashing the custom rom zip.

NQNH said:
not sure what you mean with your last sentence... but:
in my case the ota deleted my root. but I also recommend to do a factory reset after updating to 4.1 sense 4+, just to be sure that you have a clean jb rom (do titanium backups of your apps you wanna keep).
but you have to be on stock recovery if you want to apply the ota.
after your update you can root your phone again.
applying the ota wont have any effect on flashing a higher / newer custom rom.
you only have to be unlocked and on custom recovery. but you alawys have to flash the boot.img of the custom rom after flashing the custom rom zip.
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My bad i wasnt even payin attention to what i was typing and im still pretty much a noob at Root stuff so please bear with me lmao
Lets say i try to flash a 4.2.2. Rom even though im originally at 4.0.4. Would it brick my phone?
So would stock recovery be the stock rom i still hqve after rooting? I havent applied any custom roms at all since ive rooted
Sent from my HTC VLE_U

Br00talBean said:
My bad i wasnt even payin attention to what i was typing and im still pretty much a noob at Root stuff so please bear with me lmao
Lets say i try to flash a 4.2.2. Rom even though im originally at 4.0.4. Would it brick my phone?
So would stock recovery be the stock rom i still hqve after rooting? I havent applied any custom roms at all since ive rooted
Sent from my HTC VLE_U
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the rom you want to flash doesnt care about your previous rom, because you wiped your previous rom.
so it really doesnt matter which rom you have before if you want to flash a new rom.
its like.. you have installed windows xp, then format your hdd and install windows 7, windows 7 doesnt take a --- about the old os
recovery and rom are two different parts.
you can stock recovery and custom rom, you can have custom recovery and custom rom, you can have stock recovery and stock rom.. blaaa

NQNH said:
the rom you want to flash doesnt care about your previous rom, because you wiped your previous rom.
so it really doesnt matter which rom you have before if you want to flash a new rom.
its like.. you have installed windows xp, then format your hdd and install windows 7, windows 7 doesnt take a --- about the old os
recovery and rom are two different parts.
you can stock recovery and custom rom, you can have custom recovery and custom rom, you can have stock recovery and stock rom.. blaaa
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Oooh okay i get what youre saying. Soo recovery and the rom are two different things. I can upgrade to whatever gigher version i want. What about the OTA? If i upgrade to higher version custom rom will the OTA icon go away?
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Br00talBean said:
Oooh okay i get what youre saying. Soo recovery and the rom are two different things. I can upgrade to whatever gigher version i want. What about the OTA? If i upgrade to higher version custom rom will the OTA icon go away?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U
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after u have flashed a custom ROM, you wont get any OTA updates
Well, not from HTC anyways

Seraz007 said:
after u have flashed a custom ROM, you wont get any OTA updates
Well, not from HTC anyways
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Oooooooh okay i get it now wow haha so custom rom updates are the OTA pretty much once its flashed on there?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U

Br00talBean said:
Oooooooh okay i get it now wow haha so custom rom updates are the OTA pretty much once its flashed on there?
Sent from my HTC VLE_U
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well no
but u can update and then Root
That way you'll have the OTA radio and hboot and the custom ROM

[Q] HTC ONE XL evita loosing signal frequently on update 4.2.2. with custom ROMs

Hi,
I have unlocked bootloader using htc dev. and flashed recovery with Clockwork recovery 6.0.0.3.
whenever i i tried to update with custom roms like cynogen mod 10.1.3 and viperXL, Urdroid jb 4.2.2
its loosing the network signal frequently and restating automatically...
Please help me to get rid of this problem....

harithota20 said:
Hi,
I have unlocked bootloader using htc dev. and flashed recovery with Clockwork recovery 6.0.0.3.
whenever i i tried to update with custom roms like cynogen mod 10.1.3 and viperXL, Urdroid jb 4.2.2
its loosing the network signal frequently and restating automatically...
Please help me to get rid of this problem....
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This has already been discussed in countless places, including the fix in the first post of the UrDroid thread, under the big red boldface letters "RECOMMENDED".
Always take a few minutes to search and browse for the answer, and read the ROM thread before posting a question; since its almost certainly already been asked and answered by others.

no need to worry
harithota20 said:
Hi,
I have unlocked bootloader using htc dev. and flashed recovery with Clockwork recovery 6.0.0.3.
whenever i i tried to update with custom roms like cynogen mod 10.1.3 and viperXL, Urdroid jb 4.2.2
its loosing the network signal frequently and restating automatically...
Please help me to get rid of this problem....
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install this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2061577 and if u still have issue then install it again with higher voltage i had same issue and now m happy with my phone .... install this kernel in clean rom

redpoint73 said:
This has already been discussed in countless places, including the fix in the first post of the UrDroid thread, under the big red boldface letters "RECOMMENDED".
Always take a few minutes to search and browse for the answer, and read the ROM thread before posting a question; since its almost certainly already been asked and answered by others.
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Thank you for your valuable suggestion.
I have seen that while i was downloading ROM! but i don't know the importance of that.
and i know only how to flash custom ROM. but really don't know how to flash a firmware?
could you tell me how to flash that firmware?
i must need TWRP recovery?
whether i need flash this firmware before flashing ROM? or after?

harithota20 said:
but really don't know how to flash a firmware?
could you tell me how to flash that firmware?
i must need TWRP recovery?
whether i need flash this firmware before flashing ROM? or after?
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If using carl1961's file from the UrDroid thread (as I suggested) just flash in recovery. Not sure, but CWM should work. You must be SuperCID and S-off to flash the firmware.
Can be flashed anytime, doesn't effect the ROM itself. But with flashing anything, I always do a nandroid first.

:good:

redpoint73 said:
If using carl1961's file from the UrDroid thread (as I suggested) just flash in recovery. Not sure, but CWM should work. You must be SuperCID and S-off to flash the firmware.
Can be flashed anytime, doesn't effect the ROM itself. But with flashing anything, I always do a nandroid first.
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i flashed turge. i hope it will work!
thanks.:laugh: