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Is the RC33 Upgrade responsible for sms/calls Buggy Behavior?

I am in Baltimore Maryland... Ever since i upgraded to jf's rc33 firmware, i get aloooooooooot of " undelivered message" notifications. This never used to happen to me, maybe once a week with 2 messages. In most cases people ask me why the F am i triple texting, and it happens when i try to resend the messages and the phone keeps saying "message cannot be delivered". Is anyone else experiencing this? In maryland only perhaps?
I have tried keeping message count below 100, reseting the phone seems to be the only quick fix. One other thing, when i try to make phonecalls every now and then, the **** just hangs up as soon as the call is placed and when i receive a call sometimes and i press the answer key, it takes about 10 seconds to answer and continues to ring. suggestions buddys?

Make sure you delete your SMS threads if they get too long. Typically once threads get past 150 they are slow and take a while to open. If you are using the stock sms try chomp seems to handle threads better. I have JFRC33 and have not issues.

My wife and I have the exact same problem with the phone hanging up and not picking up a call for while. And dropped calls - almost always. And we live in the heart of Dallas.

yea the g1 is a nice phone, but either android or t-mobile blows..
every now and then people call me, and i get a missed call, but the phone never rings,
and sometimes when i call people, they pick up but one of us cant hear the other,
and sometimes, the g1 will ring, but when i press the green button to anwser, the phone continues to ring
im getting pissed off,
rc29, rc33 both fail to work

I am in Baltimore as well, and I have JF1.42 RC33, without any of the problems you have. Sorry, can't be of more assistance, but maybe your SIM card is old and needs to be replaced? I have heard of them causing issues sometimes.

yup same thing is happening to my phone. it is really starting to piss me off. i thought it was cuz i dropped my phone but i guess others have been getting the same thing. i hope theres a fix for this

I had this happen to me about two days ago. SMS failed to send to anyone. I restarted the phone and havent had a problem since. They are still developing this unit, so try to be patient.

i've had some calling issues recently, both making and receiving.
sometimes when receiving a call, i'll pick up and my phone will reboot, and take absolutely ages to boot up. and when making calls the other end will sometimes go completely dead and it's the same for the other person.
only happens very occasionally but it's happened with a few landline calls and different mobile networks. only been since RC33 too. not saying it's related but it is kinda annoying.

Wipe fixes all

unless the problem's firmware/hardware related, then it does **** all.

Wipe and wait
Could be too many apps eating memory on the G1 and/or buggy apps crashing buggy android. The best you can do is download mybackup from market, back up all data +sms+ageda etc, Wipe the phone. An dont install a single app from the market in 1-3 days and see if problems dissapear.
Personally, i never install any app who claims to "start at boot" Never. MyBackup is one of them and always delete it after backup. i may be wrong but i thing resident in memory apps and apps who starts at boot degrades performance over time, because many of them are buggy so i avoid using them. Well my phone runs fine with this.

buggy behavior
well i think this happen when phone memory is full, try to delete least used applications, clear applications cache like browser and youtube , then do a reset.

Ive had the issue more than a few times where the phone will start ringing but the screen will stay dark, i wait until it turns on to see who is calling after a few rings and then it wont respond to pressing the answer button unless i press it a few times, and even then it takes its sweet time answering. Ive dropped plenty of calls due to this, and yes it has only started happening after the radio firmware/RC33 update.

unrafa said:
Could be too many apps eating memory on the G1 and/or buggy apps crashing buggy android. The best you can do is download mybackup from market, back up all data +sms+ageda etc, Wipe the phone. An dont install a single app from the market in 1-3 days and see if problems dissapear.
Personally, i never install any app who claims to "start at boot" Never. MyBackup is one of them and always delete it after backup. i may be wrong but i thing resident in memory apps and apps who starts at boot degrades performance over time, because many of them are buggy so i avoid using them. Well my phone runs fine with this.
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Oh... don't even start my on "MyBackup"... I kept trying to figure out why my phone was lagged so much when I was going back to home screen. Uninstalled apps that were running all the time one by one. MyBackup and Phonebook were 2 biggest memory hogs. Phone runs oh so smooth after I unistalled those 2. Backgrounds app still autostarts for some reason but I like that app too much to uninstall and it does not cause as many problems.

bleomycin said:
Ive had the issue more than a few times where the phone will start ringing but the screen will stay dark, i wait until it turns on to see who is calling after a few rings and then it wont respond to pressing the answer button unless i press it a few times, and even then it takes its sweet time answering. Ive dropped plenty of calls due to this, and yes it has only started happening after the radio firmware/RC33 update.
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I still have this problem after another wipe..
why does android suck...
i wish tmo would come out with a winmo 3g phone, so much more stable and with more features =(.. i miss my shadow now

I started running into the issue of the phone not actually responding to the "answer call" button, but found it was only happening when I had auto-rotate set up with the DroidSans tools and the display had been rotated to landscape. It seemed like it would start trying to switch to portrait, then lock itself up long enough for the call to go to voicemail, then flip to portrait and be responsive again. I haven't had the problem since I disabled auto-rotate.
However, on the "too many apps" thing, I've suddenly started noticing that my phone will start a good 15-20 apps on startup, including things like AK Notepad. I didn't notice if this was something that started with RC33 or if I've done something else to make this happen...does this happen with anyone else?

I have had a similar issue with my g1 dropping calls and will sometimes see a force close while on a call as well. I did a wipe and did not enable auto rotation and so far it seems to be running more smoothly.

Been there done that...I am having the same issues and it is beginning to drive me nuts. I make heavy heavy use of my phone on a daily basis. Dropping calls where they just go to la la land...or the phone rings and I cannot answer for about 10 to 15 seconds, the phone just reboots for no reason... stupid things like that. I have RC33 rooted, radio upgraded with JF 1.41 and this has been happening daily about 3 times or so a day. I love my G1 and I have a hard time parting with it...I am trying to be patient while it develops but...I am about to go get the 8900 curve...

I forgot to mention...I had to do a wipe on my phone also due to a problem with the accelerameter and that did not help this issue either.
-Tonloc69

it seems to me that it is tmob related, since i`ve had that b4 on my lil nokia phone.

SK4G Software FLAWED!

What the hell is going on. I tried resetting and everything, even exchanged the device and the new one is doing the same thing! Also vibrating and force closing it is getting on my nerves! The followig seems to happen after a while I am TIRED of having to turn of my phone and turn it back on! ~ I go to play a .mp3 it says " FIle type not supported"...My .mp3 ringtone does not work the phone just vibrates the selected ringtone doesnt work. I got too take a picture or record video it says "Camera Failed"....I get a visual voicemail....the "play" button is grayed out and I have to turn off phone turn it BACK On just to check my voicemail. Also occassioally my sms wont work either. I turn my phone off and on every morning and throughout day I notice this and its getting REAL annoying !

Well first off, this isn't a software flaw, this is specific to you, as we have many users here including myself who are using these phones daily without the issues you are describing.
You had said that the issue was with an mp3, can you upload that somewhere for us to test on our phones?
As far as the camera and visual voicemail, I've never heard of that issue before, perhaps you ended up with a bad phone again?

I am getting the frequent force close with messaging. I also have had problems with the camera and idk about the mp3 stuff I haven't put any ringtones on the phone yet. This is getting really annoying I agree.

I don't have any issues with mine? Have you guys done anything like rooting or flashing anything?

Nope, completely stock. The most I have done is take a screen shot lol.

hmm maybe some have a defect? It's not all SK4g's though, as some of us have no issues at all. I would suggest getting it replaced by T-Mobile, as this is a factory defect. not sure why that happened to you guys. has anyone else had these issues and found any fixes?

That's kinda tough the hearest t-mobile is like 4 hours from here /:
One of my friends who went with me on the trip to get the SK also got one and he says he's never gotten a force close so you may be right. But could it have anything to do with the amount of texts I send/receive? Because I have to admit it is pretty excessive. The failing to send messages when I am receiving one simultaneously is expected, but not the force closes in my opinion.

It shouldn't force close on you. I know mine fails to send every once in a while too, as I text a lot (kinda the reason I got the phone). failing to send isn't as big of a deal, as it notifies you and you just have to click resend. Not entirely sure why it's force closing though? I wonder if a logcat might help? if you have adb installed, you can try adb logcat and see what shows up when you force close? if we can find the issue there, it might be fixable from our end. all depends on where the flaw lies/if it's just a bad apk somehow or if there's an actual hardware issue or something.

I'll do a log next time there is a fc, I'm having another issue or it may be related, but this one is with WidgetLocker I believe. Sometimes when I go to unlock the phone it'll freeze up and then I dont know how to explain it, but it almost seems like it resets but it really doesnt. The phone will blackout for a little then the homescreen will pop up and service will gone for a while until the cards are read just like if I rebooted.

That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.

sduvick said:
That might be a function of WidgetLocker, I used it on my old G1 and it always hung and black screened at me.
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Yeah I know it does that from time to time, but on my previous phone it wouldn't do that reboot thing where it would lose connection then resend my latest text messages once it reconnected.

I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.

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I'm not sure why it's doing that. My guess would be that the issues are caused because the SK4G doesn't use a normal lock screen. widgetlocker uses some modification of the system file for the lock screen, and perhaps it's not sure what to modify? just my 2 cents.
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That's what I was thinking too, I'm gonna uninstall it for a bit and see if anything changes.

is anyone else having an issue with notification volume? everytime i reboot my SK, my notification volume gets pushed all the way down to nothing, so i don't get a sound notification for texts, emails, etc, until i move the notif. volume back up in my settings. i did root with the one-click for the Epic 4G.

This is a new UI so alot of the apps i.e. widgets you may put on will cause issues. If you like certain apps contact the dev so your device is supported correctly. Still to new to get mad at it till sum of the bugs get worked out. I did notice a couple of times when I left screen on in pocket on accident that when I go to use it again it doesn't respond to any touch but can move courser around till rebooted then its ok. If some don't already know the sk4g is almost the same as the epic. The sk4g is still a badass phone for 100bucks.

Same as the OP
I know this is a little old, but I've experienced the same problem as the OP so it seems they are not alone with this problem.
I actually tried two different newly formatted SD cards (because I thought it may have been the SD card), and still would have the problem. Then I actually did swap phones about a month ago and it seemed the problem would now take several days to resurface instead of several hours. And I could deal with that.
Since the OTA update about 2 weeks ago, the phone has been back on it's original BS as the OP posted and it's driving me nuts. I actually missed some emergency calls last night because the mp3 ringtone didn't work so I'm finding a solution to this issue today or trashing this phone.
My belief is that there is something interfering with the phone's ability to read the SD card for media. Because other apps I have that save to the SD card or read from it work fine. So I'm going to master reset it and not download any of my apps and see what happens when I set an mp3 ringtone. If it makes it through the day with no hiccups, I'll slowly add back one app at a time until hopefully I can find the culprit.
bipoler if you'd like, we can exchange via PM what apps we both have downloaded and see if we have some in common that may be problems.
I'll post back with any progress.

I've been having the problem with ringtones not working, just getting silence when I get a call. for me it seems to happen when I set a ringtone from the app Zedge, I don't think it happens when I use ringtones from the Android System, which would make sense if the issue is related to reading the sdcard. gonna go back to a system ringtone and see what happens today.

Yeah my phone had all those problems, but I installed the Lightning rom and all those problems went away, except for the ones about messages failing...I text A LOT

Lightning ROM
Thanks for that info on the Lightning Rom. I will check that out. Phone has been working flawlessly all day with the mp3 ringtone and no extra apps besides the master reset. I might give it until the morning before I start putting them back on.

On stock id install so many apps that ran on the background that id get delay from opening closing swiping and turning onthe phone.. so I wiped it installed a custom rom and just kept the essentials.. havnt had a problem since... well.. occasionly ill have to odi but that's on purpose
Sent from my SK4G

Date and Time messed up? (Possibly resolved?)

(Let me preface that it looks like the problem has resolved itself. I still want to post, though, to see if anyone might know what the problem was and how to fix it if it happens again.)
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 Skyrocket (i727) and it is non-rooted, with no custom launchers or anything like that. I'm going to explain exactly what I did right before my date/time got messed up in case that has anything to do with it. I apologize in advance because this is going to be kinda long.
Yesterday (1-23-2012) I was playing Mario RPG during my lunch break. SNES A.D. usually works pretty well, but it was being super laggy. I kept glancing at the second hand on my watch (analog) to make sure I had enough time before I had to go back. I seemed to have plenty of time so I decided to mess with the settings on SNES A.D. to try to cure the lag. Nothing helped, and I made sure I had closed everything else using the built-in task manager widget thing. I even closed the game and cleared the memory in the RAM tab, but it wouldn't go below 400-something. I went to the Application section in Settings and tried to close some running processes that I NEVER use, like Social Hub and Accu Weather, etc. They would not stay off. I even tried to clear cached processes. (Did I mention I HATE bloatware?) Finally I gave up and resigned myself to play a bit more of the game even though it was super laggy. After a couple of minutes I heard my boss talking to a guy in the hall, and I knew that guy had an appointment at 3:00. I turned off the game and looked at the time on the phone and it said 1:45. I was confused about why that guy would show up so early. It was time to go back to work, so I grabbed my stuff and went back to my desk. As I was setting my stuff down I noticed the time on my work phone and computer was 2:45! I immediately panicked, thinking I had taken a 2-hour lunch. I looked at my watch more closely to make sure the computer and phone weren't messed up, and sure enough it was 2:45. It took me a little while to realize that I had gone to lunch at 1:45. In any case, I knew my cell was messed up and when I checked the settings I saw that it had changed to Central time instead of Eastern. The Automatic box was checked, too. I manually changed it back to Eastern. I tried rebooting the phone, but every time I would try to check Automatic it would switch to Central again. Finally, tonight (1-24-12) I decided to try posting here. I checked the phone one more time, but this time when I selected Automatic it stayed on Eastern. Go figure.
Also, on a possibly unrelated note, my phone was acting up a bit late last night. I tried watching something right quick on Netflix and the video was being super laggy while the audio was fine. Also, my sister was texting me but I kept getting the same text 7 times in a row at 1-minute intervals, but with the same timestamp. It happened with two different messages. I finally just turned off my phone to charge so I wouldn't keep hearing the buzz. I haven't had any other problems today to note.

I've seen the time change when switching networks sometimes. I guess some towers are not setup properly as it's transmitting the wrong time. I've seen this on other phones as well. It's a cell tower issue.

[Q] Some Phone Issues (If you have some smarts please advice)

I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem

vincecr said:
I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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It sounds like a bad flash and you may want to wipe and reflash. As for the GPS I am on Sky ICS 6B and the GPS is glitchy frequently. For example today I wanted to look up directions to a restaurant down the street and the GPS thought I was 2,000 miles away in Vegas (I wish lol). I tryed it again tonight and the gps is working. I don't know how to fix the gps problem and we may just have to wait for updates in the rom, but as for the other systems it sounds like a bad flash as I described before. Anyone else think this?

vincecr said:
I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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First if you are on a Custom Rom, try updating it or reinstall the current rom. Delete Caches, and try again
for GPS, Maybe try another GPS app such as my favorite CoPilot
And for browsers I would switch to another browser, I am currently test three at the moment, Chrome, Puffin, and Opera. I must say Puffin is simple and fast, while I use opera on my Desktop so I would prefer Opera. Try it out might just be the browser.
Could be just settings in the browser that is set to Canada English Language settings.
Well I hope I helped some what. :cyclops:

Mike on XDA said:
It sounds like a bad flash and you may want to wipe and reflash. As for the GPS I am on Sky ICS 6B and the GPS is glitchy frequently. For example today I wanted to look up directions to a restaurant down the street and the GPS thought I was 2,000 miles away in Vegas (I wish lol). I tryed it again tonight and the gps is working. I don't know how to fix the gps problem and we may just have to wait for updates in the rom, but as for the other systems it sounds like a bad flash as I described before. Anyone else think this?
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I've had the exact same problem with the GPS on Sky ICS 6B, and I thought it was just me because no one has listed it as a known issue! I guess it's time to try a different ROM.
As far as the glitches while charging - are you using the supplied Samsung charger that came with the phone? This phone is highly sensitive to ANY other charger not designed specifically for the i727.
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vincecr said:
I have been having trouble with my i727 over the past few weeks. It has shown 3 different problems which are really starting to bug me. The three problems are not related but I have condensed them into one thread. Please pardon me as I am pretty noobish with the software end of things.
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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I'm pretty sure the Canada problem has to do with Sky ICS as well, because my phone seems to do the same thing!

Bealzibooze said:
I've had the exact same problem with the GPS on Sky ICS 6B, and I thought it was just me because no one has listed it as a known issue! I guess it's time to try a different ROM.
As far as the glitches while charging - are you using the supplied Samsung charger that came with the phone? This phone is highly sensitive to ANY other charger not designed specifically for the i727.
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I find the opposite in my experience. When using my Samsung charger (usually at weird angles though because charge & use while in bed) it disconnects rather often , while my Atrix 2 charger stays connected without issue. As I said though it may just be the obnoxious angles the cord gets put in. As for the GPS I was also surprised to see little to no complaints about issues with it.

vincecr said:
1. Glitchy when charging. Any time I plug in a charger the screen and softkeys freeze up. I have to hold the power button for a while to get it to unlock. When it is not frozen. The screen is messed up. Sometimes I tap with one finger or slide to unlock and it zooms as if in multitouch. One time I tried to dial a 3 in a phone number and it dialed 374 just randomly on its own. I don't know if the charger is messing something up in this. Note: This started happening after I rooted for the first time but has been consistent through the many roms I have had. I'm pretty sure its not skyics. Do I need to call ATT for this
2. Also my GPS has been taking a really long time to fix if not at all. I normally use it in maps but if I open a simple gps coordinates read out app. Sometimes the GPS fails to start. I don't know if it is a skyics issue or if I have a hardware issue. Any input would be helpful
3. Lastly, its not really a big deal and is probably a simple fix but I have tried everything. I use dolphin browser and everytime I search google it thinks I am in canada and no matter how many times a change it. It always reverts to canada.
If you have experienced these issues or if you know why they are being caused please let me know because I don't know what they could be. My phone (should) still be under warranty (if you ignore the root) so I may want to call ATT especially if its a hardware prblem
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1. There's a few posts over in the ICS threads that talk about charging issues. Do a search for those (stock charger, etc) and see if any of the symptoms match yours.
Frankly, I think you have a bad flash, as someone else mentioned. IMO its best that you backup your pics, videos, music, etc, then wipe both your internal and external SD cards, then load ICS on your ext SD and start over completely from the beginning. No restoring backups from TB, either. Take the extra time and reload everything from the app store and set them up manually.
Case in point, Seanscreamz mentioned in the 4.0.4 thread that he accidentally wiped his emmc (internal SD) and after reload it fixed some glitchy weirdness.
2 & 3 are related. Your browser is using your map data, and so does your GPS if you have that turned on in settings. Fix one, you fix the other. I had the GPS issue in SkyICS as well. Go into the maps app, clear data and clear cache. Immediately reboot the phone into recovery, wipe dalvik and cache from there. Reboot. Since the phone has to rebuild the davlik cache, it takes awhile to come back up.
That fixed my issue (even if some steps were unnecessary, it can't hurt).
If you do flatten and reload the phone, don't forget to install Busybox and run Fix Permissions after you install the update.
Good luck!

Android Auto Problems

Hey guys
I'm having strange problems with Android Auto on Honor 8x.
Sometimes, it works great. The navigation bar shows up, and when I click the audio button, I can see Pocket Casts and Spotify as intended.
However, about 2/3rds of the time, Android Auto doesn't work properly. Either, the bar at the bottom is blank, or my audio apps are not recognized, and pressing the audio button gives the prompt 'Pull over and install android auto apps when it is safe to do so'.
I'm trying to figure out why it works sometimes and other times not, but I can't for the life of me figure it out. I've tried making sure spotify is open before connecting the phone, I've tried making sure it's fully closed, wiping caches of android auto and google apps doesn't seem to make a difference after the initial set up either.
Anyone else?

I'm having exactly the same issue except for me Google play music always appears; just Spotify is sometimes there/sometimes isn't
I initially thought it was a Spotify issue and downloaded Deezer which had exactly the same issue after a few days
I've found sometimes that rebooting the phone works but I've also resorted to reinstalling Spotify at times
I'm just sitting waiting patiently in a hope that it's some "feature" which gets fixed when pie is rolled out, but who knows!
Let us know if you find a fix! ??

I've given up
Mine was just weird full stop! Screen goes weird and kept locking up, half the time 'hey google' wouldn't work amongst other things. I ended up deleting it.

Glad to see it's not only me. It's great when it works, but it's always when I'm about to head out on a long drive that it ****s the bed. The 15 minute journey to town of course, everything's mint..... Having other problems with the phone as well with it's heavy-handed regulation of pretty much everything. No DNS-based or VPN-based adblock can seem to stay alive either. Tried them all! I really hope a decent custom ROM comes out one day, but if not I will probably cut my losses and head back to Moto. Shame really, because it's great value for money and an AOSP version of same hardware would be mint.