If I sell my VZW XOOM, should I keep the SIM card? - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I may be saying a teary good bye to my XOOM soon. I was wondering if I should even bother keeping the SIM card? The data line I have on it is very cheap and it has been a lot more handy than having to tether so I might just want to keep that option available.
Will the SIM that the XOOM uses now be of any use any other VZW tablets?
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It depends on the tablet, most newer devices use a smaller sim so it wont work. You can just go to verizon and they will give you a new sim when you get a new tablet if you still have the data plan.

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Paying extra for Sim card?

The other day I was at Frys to look at the SR. They had the black one for $139.99. I looked at the tag and it said that they charge an extra $7 for the sim card.
I've been with att for almost forever and I don't think I've ever been charged for the sim card. Is this something new or is this something that Frys is doing?
Lets say I bought the phone and didn't buy the sim card from them, can I still use my old "3g" card and get the LTE speed if I am in a LTE area?
U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim
silver03wrx said:
U have to call at&t if u u do that because you will have no data. They have to know you bought an lte phone or your data will not work at all. Alsoi went to at&t the gave me an lte sim card for free. But i dont think your 3g sim will work at all. Needs to be a 4g sim
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Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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Sim card has no bearing on data type. Just let att know you upgraded to an lte phone.
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Not fully true, you have to get a new sim, they are called "4g" sims. or just you can just say plan sim card. also if you go to an att corp store you can get one for free!
Never go to a authorized retailer tho!!1 they will eff you stuff up!! ha
But you do need to get a new one to get faster internet speeds!
also you don't have to tell AT&t just use the phone for a day then they will send you a text saying, we see you're using a smart phone. to better server you we'll add the internet 2gb plan."
but if you want to start using the internet right away just call
Correct me if important wrong, but i think it matters what sim you have. I was on my old sim card and couldn't get LTE speed. Went to rogers bought an LTE sim...now on LTE speed.
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So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?
Saelee said:
So I can put my 3g sim card on it but won't get LTE and just go to the att store and pick up the 4g card for free?
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Oi, people these days...
Call AT&T and have them provision your line correctly, they have to add the LTE data plan for the radio to get LTE access.
It really doesn't matter what SIM you use, as long as they provision it correctly, but it is good to get a new SIM when you get a new phone... so yeah.
Only time you need a new SIM is on Verizon, for their LTE. ^^
You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.
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You do need a new sim. If you were to plug in an older SIM, you would be able to text and make calls but you would have no data. If you go to an ATT store, they will replace your SIM with the LTE one for no charge, regardless of where you bought the phone. If you buy the phone from ATT they will do it when you get the phone. I have sold 3 skyrockets and none of them had worked with the older sims including my own. I do not know about other carriers and can only speak about ATT phones. I do not know about whether frys has to pay att per activation or for the sim cards, so that may be why they have to charge 7 dollars. If you do not want to pay the 7 dollar frys fee, then get the phone, head to the ATT store, then replace the SIM for free.
Even if ATT provisions the line correctly, the phone will not pick up the non lte sim card. I worked with the ATT sales tech on the day the skyrocket came out. He provisioned the line, plugged in my old sim, and it wouldnt pick up LTE. Then he realized they need to use the brand new stack of SIM cards, set up the new sim, plugged it in and I had blazing fast LTE.
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Very true...
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Att does have 4g sims but they still say 3g. But yes u do need the correct sim to get lte
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There's no such thing as an "LTE SIM Card". Plain and simple.
Normal size SIM cards are SKU 70357. Micro SIM cards are SKU 70290.
That's it folks.
The data plan is what has to be changed. For example, I took the SIM out of my Inspire and put it in my Skyrocket demo and got no data until I manually changed the IMEI to the Skyrocket.
Same SIM card, but a new data plan.
Oh, SIM cards are actually $25 and $35 for micro SIMs. Agents and ARs can charge if they want. COR stores shouldn't charge you, however.
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Since we're on the topic of SIM cards and the data plans they use, I've got a couple questions I'm hoping you guys can answer:
I have an iPhone 4s which has my grandfathered unlimited plan. When I throw my 4s SIM into my skyrocket, I get 3g speeds (have to play with APN settings). Now, I don't have LTE in my area yet but with all this news of LTE springing up, I'm thinking it's coming soon. Here's what I want to do. I want to be able to switch from 4s to skyrocket freely without having to contact ATT everytime.
My questions:
1) Should I move my skyrocket to my main line to get a new sim to get LTE then cut it so it fits my 4s too?
2) Will the SIM work correctly in my 4s after changing to the LTE data plan?
3) Can I call att and have them switch my plan to LTE using the current microsim?
4) Will the 4s SIM and all the functionality work after making the change?
I'm hoping someone went through this already so I can get good advice. I may just have to be the guinea pig if not.
I don't know about you guys, but I am pretty sure my iphone 4s's micro sim isn't an lte sim card, and it works perfectly fine as long as it's positioned correctly.
For data, all you have to do is configure the media net apn
Edit: missed the guy's post above me, whoops!
I just got a Skyrocket today and I swapped my Infuse simple into it and it has been working perfectly. I am not in an LTE enabled area but the next time in am down in Manhattan I will test the speed.
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[Q] Can I use a SIM card from a tablet on a data plan in a smartphone?

The title expresses my basic question. If I had a tablet that was on a Verizon data plan, could I take the SIM card from it and put it in a smartphone (that had the same size SIM) and use that smartphone on the data plan of the tablet? I understand that I probably won't get the basic phone calls and texting capabilities.
My other question is do you think the following scenario will work, or is there a better way to get a data only plan for a smartphone on Verizon?
Go to Verizon store and purchase a tablet on a data plan. Purchase a Verizon smartphone off of eBay that matches the SIM size of the tablet. Swap the SIM card. Sell tablet on eBay. Set up smartphone with Google voice.
I have found multiple cases of people taking their smartphone SIM card and putting it in a Tablet to use the data on the smartphone plan. But I've never heard of someone doing it the other way. If I put the tablet SIM in the smartphone will I be able to pay by the minute for calls or will I be forced to a VOIP service?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Well I don't know how useful that scenario will be now that Verizon stopped subsidizing their tablets with contract purchases. I was hoping to purchase it on a contract then sell it for more to help with purchasing the phone off contract.
Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to go about this? I want to try and stick with Verizon because they have great coverage in my area.
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
pazi79 said:
First, ask them whether you can get the smartphone with data package. I got my dell streak that way.
With data plan you will be able only voip and sms.
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I tried to talk them into that last fall and they wouldn't go for it. What I really want to do is get on their shared everything plan with me and my wife and have 2 smartphones on their tablet plan for $60. Which is way better than the $150+ we would pay for the regular smartphone plan.
Is it possible to buy a SIM card from them or ebay and have it activated as a tablet and then stick it in a smartphone? Could I just go in there and say, "I forgot my tablet at home and I need a new SIM card activated on a new plan." Then take it home and put it in myself?
When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
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When they activate new sim old sim is automatically deactivated. You can't have two sim on one data plan.
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Yeah, I understand that. I'm banking on the fact that they will believe me that I have a tablet at home (even though I really don't) and that I need a new SIM card (for whatever reason, like i lost it or my device didnt come with one cuz I bought it on ebay). Basically, activating a new device. Do they NEED the device there at the store to activate the SIM?
No
So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
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So you're saying that I could walk into the Verizon store, tell them that I need 2 new SIM cards for my new tablets and ask them to activate them for me on their Shared Everything plan then go home and put those SIM cards into 2 smartphones and they will work on the data only plan?
Can anyone else verify this as well?
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I've found from people on HowardForums that this isn't possible. The verizon people need the IMEI of a device to activate the SIM card for it. Also, from them I learned that it is possible to put a SIM from a tablet into a smartphone and use it on data only. I just need to make sure the SIMs are the same size between the two. If I were to sell the tablet afterwards it would have a "bad ESN" and not be able to be activated on the Verizon network because it would be tied to my account. The tablet would still be usable as wifi only.

Still under contract but new phone

I bought skyrocket in june 2012 2 year contract, but i have unlocked no contract i777 phone for use with at&t can i put my sim card from my skyrocket and data,call,text plan on the i777 for free? Or do i have to pay or "hidden fees crap.
I don't see why not. Its not like you're moving from an old blackberry to an android. This would then complicate things because blackberry plans are specialized in how they use blackberry servers to retrieve email by text (thus the instantaneous notification without the battery drain). But I digress.
Simple answer yes, with no "hidden fees" lol
I agree. I don't thnk AT&T cares what specific device you have. Just regular phone, smartphone or blackberry. I've swapped my SIM card between devices before and it was fine. Hopefully you'll have the same experience.
ok so i can swap sim+ plans to i777/ my mom has iphone 3gs under contract still october 2011, if i put my plans in i777 can my mom put her sim card and plans into my skyrocket with no hidden fees/pay to use crap? Also, BONUS QUESTION which one is better for gaming i777 or ipod touch 5g?
Ive swapped sims on AT&T...from my Captivate. ..Infuse...Skyrocket...Iphone 4S...no fees just swap n go
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If i buy unlocked phone can i MANUALLY put sim card in it and when sim is in phone will it call/text/ activate 3g 4g or do i need to go to AT&T * which i hate* for them to activate those features?
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If i buy unlocked phone can i MANUALLY put sim card in it and when sim is in phone will it call/text/ activate 3g 4g or do i need to go to AT&T * which i hate* for them to activate those features?
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Threads a little old, but thanks for not starting a new one. Yes you can put the sim in. And no they can activate it remotely. You might have to call them.
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So if I want to activate call text data 3g 4g I HAVE to COMMUNICATE with AT&T?
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So if I want to activate call text data 3g 4g I HAVE to COMMUNICATE with AT&T?
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Maybe. You might be able to just insert the sim and be good to go. But if it doesn't work then you may have to call to have them activate it. Good luck to you.
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As long as the sim was from an active phone/account. It will work just fine in an unlocked phone.
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You mentioned an unlocked phone, but from which carrier? It is a good rule of thumb that, if it's not an AT&T phone, it might not be capable of receiving all of the AT&T frequencies. (LTE, 4g, 3g ....).
A current sim card will allow a phone acess to AT&T's network. Sims are swappable, the phone you are using will be bound to the bands (frequencies) the internal radio is programmed to use. I suggest, a person wanting to use an unlocked phone, in any carriers network to first research (Google) the phone specs, and your network, to see if they are compatible. Their are several carriers that share the same bandwidth, but some only share some bands. Like AT&T shares some bands with T-Mobile but not all (LTE).
I hope this helps anybody with the decision on which phone it's capable of working on any given network.
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[Q] Thunderbolt on Tablet prepaid plan

Hi everybody!
Currently I am on Page Plus, because I don't talk or text very much, I currently use WiFi as much as possible with a Droid X2, 3g only.
I have a HTC Thunderbolt that uses full size 4g Sims. It is not activated.
I know that it is possible to activate a tablet on Verizon data only prepaid plan, then put the SIM in a phone, Verizon can't do anything about it because of an agreement they made with the FCC when the were granted permission to the LTE spectrum.
I would love to use the Thunderbolt on the 2gb a month data only play from Verizon for $30 a month.
The only problem is, from what I've read on the forums, the only way to do this is purchase a tablet, activate it, swap SIMs, then sell the tablet if you do not want it. I already have a Galaxy Tab 2, and do not want another tablet.
So I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to obtain the SIM and activate it without having a tablet.
Thanks.

T-Mobile support?

Hi, I was thinking about buying a nexus 5, but I didn't know if it would support my t-mobile plan. Any answers?
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Questions go in the question forum, not general. The phone will work on t-mobile. There are plenty of threads please look before posting.
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My N5 would not connect to the data network with my grandfathered unlimited plan.
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My N5 would not connect to the data network with my grandfathered unlimited plan.
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Call their support and verify your IMEI and SIM card #. It should work. You might need a new SIM card if you cut it down to fit your N5 since older simcards don't support LTE.
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Call their support and verify your IMEI and SIM card #. It should work. You might need a new SIM card if you cut it down to fit your N5 since older simcards don't support LTE.
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Worked with support for almost two weeks until finally they changed my plan to a measured one. They said the phone was not compatible with the plan though I used my N4 with absolutely no problem. They were not selling the N5 at the time and the support guy I work with had not been trained yet on the N5 (his training was scheduled that next week). They insisted it had nothing to do with the SIM card (I wanted to get a new one but I had gotten a new SIM when I upgraded to the N4).
They tried all sorts of things to get the N5 to connect -- the signal indicator showed LTE, but I was only able to get 2G services (phone, mail and SMS). After the plan change I connected immediately to the LTE data network.
T-Mobile had announced their intention to migrate grandfathered plans to the new metered plans so I was expecting it, but not so soon, and not necessarily because of my upgrade to the N5.
I bought mine direct from Google and it has worked since day one.
I've read that the one T-Mobile sells in the store is identical to the Google play version, but I wanted the 32G one.
But yeah. I'm on T-Mobile and no problems at all. If you aren't already using the new smaller sim cards you'll need to pick one up, but if you're coming from N4 etc you probably already have one.
Literally mine was Plug and play.
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jpchopper said:
I bought mine direct from Google and it has worked since day one.
I've read that the one T-Mobile sells in the store is identical to the Google play version, but I wanted the 32G one.
But yeah. I'm on T-Mobile and no problems at all. If you aren't already using the new smaller sim cards you'll need to pick one up, but if you're coming from N4 etc you probably already have one.
Literally mine was Plug and play.
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I expected mine to be seemless, too. When I was checking my account it had no name associated with the plan -- hadn't since I could remember.
Sounds like a nightmare... that's really weird. Mine worked out of the box. I did have an issue with the 4.42 OTA and root, though, ended up flashing to stock using the Google 4.42 image and after that it worked again. Did yours work before the OTA?
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I have an older and bigger sim card. Would I have to pay more to get a micro for my n5?
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Falfner said:
I have an older and bigger sim card. Would I have to pay more to get a micro for my n5?
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you shouldnt. i exchanged mine out for free.
Falfner said:
I have an older and bigger sim card. Would I have to pay more to get a micro for my n5?
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http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/sim-card
Free, scroll down and pick micro-SIM kit. When you get it, Go here:
http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-activate
Activate using your existing number, which preserves your current account,etc. OR choose the $30/mo 100min/5GB plan.

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