Hi there!
I am planning on buying a tablet at the end of the month and i am choosing between the Acer Iconia A110 (with its microSD card slot), the Nexus 7 (with its quad-core GPU) and the Motorola Xoom 2 Xyboard/Media Edition 8.2" tab (with its screen size, surround speakers and great camera).
I am not convinced by the build and durability of the Acer/Google tab. And i always thought the ideal (i.e. well-balanced & a good compromised) tablet screen size is an 8" one. That is why i want to ask about the Motorola tab and also in relation to its post-Ice Cream Sandwich update.
1. In terms of the CPU speed is the advertised speed the "base" speed or is it underclocked?
2. Would you know if the GPU is single or dual channel? And does it matter?
3. Is the wifi single or dual band? And again does it matter?
4. Comparing it to the iPad 2 or say an AMOLED screen Galaxy tab would you consider the screen resolution/contrast/colour/dark colours of the Xoom 2 is as good as the others?
5. For a 1-year old tab wil i find any issues or problems in terms of gaming or compatibility with games or apps?
Please advice. Thanks.
I would strongly reconsider considering xoom2 me as one of options. If you need 3G than, yes, but otherwise xoom2 me is an old device.
The strongest part: screen resolution at 8.2 inches and build quality (at least a feeling of it).
Weaker points are short battery life, lot of restart on 3.2 so You must be sure to have ICS on it, closed boatloader so NO Roms to choose from and total absence of any custom development and device support in any third party tools.
Speed is not breathtalking and theres a lot of hiccups and short freezes and theres not many accessories for it on ebay.
I bought my 608 because of quite cheap promotion but otherwise woulnd choose it mainly because battery and closed bootloader.
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I am not into bootloading or rooting or JB. I still prefer the normal ways to update my tablet. I still a screen size of 7" is a tad small. if it was say between 7.2" or 7.7" then it might just be better.
Xoom 2 ME's specs might be old but it seems it is still capable. But again, having the latest gadget would probably be better in terms of specs, compatibility and future updates.
Would you agree?
The Xoom 2 ME is much nicer now that it's got Android 4.0 on it, but I'm not holding my breath for Android 4.1, let alone 4.2 (out next week allegedly?).
Plus, it still has the issues of weird power and volume button placement.
If my Xoom 2 ME broke today, I'd buy a nexus 7 tomorrow.
gino_76ph said:
I am not into bootloading or rooting or JB. I still prefer the normal ways to update my tablet. I still a screen size of 7" is a tad small. if it was say between 7.2" or 7.7" then it might just be better.
Xoom 2 ME's specs might be old but it seems it is still capable. But again, having the latest gadget would probably be better in terms of specs, compatibility and future updates.
Would you agree?
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This is a Motorola pre-google-purchase device... That means, it will update the normal ways twice a century... I've heard it has been updated twice already... So, ICS is pretty much end of the road for this device and due to its [irony]spetacular[/irony] sales, I'm quite surprised that Moto itself just did not end-up saying device will remain in Android 3.2.2 for better user experience, do not expect anything else for this device, and, since there are no community ROMs for it (perhaps now that a ClockworkMod recovery is in progress we might see something, after all, my guess is that any hacks that work with RAZR to boot alternative roms might work with XOOM 2)...
Really, I would only consider a Xoom 2 if you get it really cheap... That is the reason I bought one, it was on sale from an operator for a fourth of its MSRP... And even then, it took me about half an hour to decide to buy it....
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In my country they sell this for 200 euro and ipad mini for 339... . The specs are extremely similar, almost the same. I would choose again any time xoom me.. I can use android like a desktop os and i don't feel like missing anything from my desktop... Ics performance is solid, stable. Is not as smooth as ios put i can live with it. Apps are getting better and better, and i don't feel i miss anything from the huge ios app collection...
Having a hard time deciding. Options are: Asus TF300T, Acer Iconia A510, Acer Iconia A700 HD.
The main deciding factors are:
- will be used for gaming
- must have Tegra 3 Quad core cpu
- JellyBean
- under 400 euros
The A700 would be my first choice, but some reviews said it lags and it is a little slower then the others. Others said the screen might not be so great (not bright enough). This seems to be caused by the higher screen resolution. Thing is, I don't really need very high res as it may impact gaming performance. However most reviews I saw were old, so Acer may have pushed some updates since then. Also another point in favor of the Iconia is that I plan to use an external keyboard, not like the Asus which comes with its own keyboard/dock.
Another point is that I read that the A700 vs A510 is only about the screen resolution. Is this true? Therefore is the A510 faster because of lower screen res? Would this be a plus for gaming?
Sadly I would love the Nexus 7 as this would check all the boxes, but it's too small. The Nexus 10 is not available for me.
1. Which would be the fastest/lag-less, more swift in general?
2. Would the Iconia A700 be able to run all current 3D android games fluently?
3. Would there be any other choice? If anyone has the time to take a look, please make any suggestions from two stores: fnac and darty. Google for the full links; they are stores in France where I am currently stationed.
Edit: made a mistake in the model name of the Acer tablets, of course they are the A700 and A510. Could a mod please edit the poll, or is there a way for me to correct?
Hello don't quite know if it's the right place to ask
but i am planning to buy a tablet and i am confused between Asus Nexus 7(32GB) and Sony S SGPT113IN(16GB) both available at 20000 INR.
The Sony tablet has a bigger screen, a back camera and 3G too.
So i am going to test apps (developements related work) mainly on the tablet.
What do you think is the best considering the following aspects
performance wise
feature wise
quality of parts and durability
value for money
Please help me make a decision:angel:
considering the 2 i would choose sony's one.
Quality of materials are high, the screen is bigger, sony's personalizzation is great. Otherwise Nexus 7 is a Nexus that means updates, updates, updates meanwhile sony take alot to update his devices. Performance is a dual core for sony and quad core for asus, maybe on graphics that means alot, faster load time and better graphics. Is based on: u prefer more space or 3G connetivity? a bigger screen and stylish design or just power for gaming?
Hey guys,
I've been looking to get a tablet for a long time now and being the average broke-ass student on the internet, I'm looking for something cheap (i.e. 200$ range). Basically my options are the Iconia A500, Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the Transformer TF101. However, I heard the dev support for the Iconia isn't perfect, I don't like the build quality of Samsung stuff and so that leaves the Transformer.
Anyways so about the transformer now, I want it for watching movies, surfing the net and playing a few apps and games that currently lag on my aging HD2. How does the tablet fare in this regard? What about this tablets relevance? How long will it be able to handle apps and games before its Tegra 2 hardware shows signs of strain?
Thanks
Can I get some help with this?
As you have probably figured out, this forum is not very active lately since it is nearly a 2 year old device.
I still use mine daily, I am running TeamEOS 4 JellyBean ROM on it and it is just as fast as ever. There are very few games and apps that I run across that do not work because of the Tegra2 chip.
However - here is my advice:
If you want a 10" tablet with a netbook form factor (keyboard dock) and you can get both parts for $200 or so, then it is a fine deal.
If you are just looking for a "tablet" only, I would spring for the Nexus 7 personally. It is $200 for a 16 GB and has the Tegra 3, and is on JB 4.2.2 already. No expandable storage, but other than that it is a great tablet, and at 7" it fits in most pockets so it is quite portable.
Yeah I kinda figured that out lol. That said I don't think age can be the judge of these things, my HD2 is pretty old and is begining to show its age but seems to be handling JB just fine. Back on topic:
1) Working apps is nice, but how well do the apps work? Do they run smooth enough and not crash? Does heavy 3D games run fine and does it heat up the tablet?
2) What about video playback? I plan on watching 720p videos on it. I don't expect mkv to play too well but what about everything else? How do 720p videos look on the 10" screen?
See, basically I just want a great 10" tablet for watching movies, surfing the net and perhaps a few apps that my HD2 can't really run well (3d games mainly). I'm not expecting much at 200$ or a lot from its Tegra 2 but my requirement of 10" is why I have not considered the Nexus 7 or I'd have got that with my eyes closed.
Honestly, I am still impressed with what this thing can do. I am running the TeamEOS 4 ROM (Jelly Bean 4.2.2) and it is just as smooth as my iPhone.
I have my CPU overclocked to 1.4 GHz (up from the stock 1.0 GHz). It runs pretty smoothly and is a good balance. I have run it at 1.5 and 1.6 GHz on some older ROMs (MattmanWRX CM10/PA hybrid) with great success but on the EOS 4 it gets some random reboots and sleep of death if I run at 1.6. Also, at 1.6 it gets a bit warm. 1.4 stays pretty cool, maybe slightly warm if you game for a while.
Here is a video I just shot of the benchmark of the game Epic Citadel. The framerates tend to be between 20 and 30 FPS, 24 FPS is about as fast as the human eye can see so it is quite smooth IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tlCgE1Hyg
I play 720p mkv files on it all the time. They run quite smoothly using MX Player. If the video is created with crazy high frame rates (50+ FPS) then it can struggle, but considering the 24 Hz limit of the eye, never had an issue with that. Even 1080p mkv @ 24 Hz play smoothly.
And a sample of a 720p mkv played on my TF101:
http://youtu.be/6b-WSArGeFg
The tf101 is great depending on the price, here in new zealand you can get a new tf300t cheaper than a new tf101, in that case there's no point in getting the tf101. As for performance compared to the terga 3 other than heavy 3d games the difference is unnoticeable and in same case beats its terga 3 rivals, as for the overall android experience u'd never suspect this device is 2 years old and came with honeycomb installed, it defiantly sports jelly bean as well as much newer devices.
My main issue with the tf101 is looks and feel compared to newer transformers, newer ones have rounded edges, slimmer and better external design (this would be the only reason id upgarde in the next 6 months). But newer transformers lack 2 usb ports (only have 1) and i believe the tf101 has louder/better sound due to dual speakers
To summarize if your struggling to spend extra money on a tf300t - tf700 (provided the tf101 isnt more expensive lol) id get the tf101 happily.
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Honestly, I am still impressed with what this thing can do. I am running the TeamEOS 4 ROM (Jelly Bean 4.2.2) and it is just as smooth as my iPhone.
I have my CPU overclocked to 1.4 GHz (up from the stock 1.0 GHz). It runs pretty smoothly and is a good balance. I have run it at 1.5 and 1.6 GHz on some older ROMs (MattmanWRX CM10/PA hybrid) with great success but on the EOS 4 it gets some random reboots and sleep of death if I run at 1.6. Also, at 1.6 it gets a bit warm. 1.4 stays pretty cool, maybe slightly warm if you game for a while.
Here is a video I just shot of the benchmark of the game Epic Citadel. The framerates tend to be between 20 and 30 FPS, 24 FPS is about as fast as the human eye can see so it is quite smooth IMO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7tlCgE1Hyg
I play 720p mkv files on it all the time. They run quite smoothly using MX Player. If the video is created with crazy high frame rates (50+ FPS) then it can struggle, but considering the 24 Hz limit of the eye, never had an issue with that. Even 1080p mkv @ 24 Hz play smoothly.
And a sample of a 720p mkv played on my TF101:
http://youtu.be/6b-WSArGeFg
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Thank you so much for thr videos, this is exactly what I wanted to see and also solves the two doubts I had on its capabilities. I don't plan on playing 1080p as that would pointless but I trust that everything else (other video formats) play fine at 720p right? This is actually pretty good for a 2 year old tablet. I was under the impression that with the Nexus 4 and other newer tablets, these first gen Tegra 2 tablets would be struggling to run modern apps.
Also, 24fps is not as fast as the eye can see. That would be 90fps+ actually.
JoinTheRealms said:
The tf101 is great depending on the price, here in new zealand you can get a new tf300t cheaper than a new tf101, in that case there's no point in getting the tf101. As for performance compared to the terga 3 other than heavy 3d games the difference is unnoticeable and in same case beats its terga 3 rivals, as for the overall android experience u'd never suspect this device is 2 years old and came with honeycomb installed, it defiantly sports jelly bean as well as much newer devices.
My main issue with the tf101 is looks and feel compared to newer transformers, newer ones have rounded edges, slimmer and better external design (this would be the only reason id upgarde in the next 6 months). But newer transformers lack 2 usb ports (only have 1) and i believe the tf101 has louder/better sound due to dual speakers
To summarize if your struggling to spend extra money on a tf300t - tf700 (provided the tf101 isnt more expensive lol) id get the tf101 happily.
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Thanks JoinTheRealms, I'm importing these tablets from America and it certainly doesn't appear to have tf300t cheaper. In my search I tried hunting for the tf300ts first actually but they were 250$+ and slightly out of my budget and so I gave up. But that reminds me, about the USB.
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How good is the keyboard dock? I see that it has an extended battery, USB ports and a MicroSD slot but is it absolutely necessary? I don't want to get it if possible, cause the keyboard dock is a good 30$ ~ 50$ extra (bringing it in TF300T territory). There are USB kits on ebay that seem to be going for like 10$ max but do those work well enough? I will be connecting my pen drive to the tablet a lot for watching movies.
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Also, 24fps is not as fast as the eye can see. That would be 90fps+ actually.
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I stand corrected, but at the same time 24 FPS is "fluid" motion for most users. If you get below 20 FPS it can look a bit jerky.
Also, the games that are designed for faster processors (Tegra 3 for example) are simply not availble to install on the Tegra 2 devices. Some games (like ShadowGun) has a Tegra 2 version (ShadowGun) and a Tegra 3 (ShadowGun THD)
RD274 said:
How good is the keyboard dock? I see that it has an extended battery, USB ports and a MicroSD slot but is it absolutely necessary? I don't want to get it if possible, cause the keyboard dock is a good 30$ ~ 50$ extra (bringing it in TF300T territory). There are USB kits on ebay that seem to be going for like 10$ max but do those work well enough? I will be connecting my pen drive to the tablet a lot for watching movies.
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I think the Keyboard dock is great, you get a real keyboard and 2 USB port along with an SD slot. I have a 64 GB microSD and a 64 GB SD card. And it gives the extra battery and a real keyboard.
However, many users do not feel the need to have or use the keyboard dock. I know quite a few users who have never had a dock and just use a USB adapater when they need it. Most of them seem to work pretty well.
RD274 said:
Thank you so much for thr videos, this is exactly what I wanted to see and also solves the two doubts I had on its capabilities. I don't plan on playing 1080p as that would pointless but I trust that everything else (other video formats) play fine at 720p right? This is actually pretty good for a 2 year old tablet. I was under the impression that with the Nexus 4 and other newer tablets, these first gen Tegra 2 tablets would be struggling to run modern apps.
Also, 24fps is not as fast as the eye can see. That would be 90fps+ actually.
Thanks JoinTheRealms, I'm importing these tablets from America and it certainly doesn't appear to have tf300t cheaper. In my search I tried hunting for the tf300ts first actually but they were 250$+ and slightly out of my budget and so I gave up. But that reminds me, about the USB.
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How good is the keyboard dock? I see that it has an extended battery, USB ports and a MicroSD slot but is it absolutely necessary? I don't want to get it if possible, cause the keyboard dock is a good 30$ ~ 50$ extra (bringing it in TF300T territory). There are USB kits on ebay that seem to be going for like 10$ max but do those work well enough? I will be connecting my pen drive to the tablet a lot for watching movies.
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Well my post kind of was all about the tf101 plus dock, its kind of the same story with the whole transformer line, they are all about the keyboard dock. Personally i cant stand tablets on their own, 95% of the time my tf101 is used as a net-book kind of thing. The keyboard dock effectively doubles the battery life to something like 16 hours, the usb/ sdcards are handy as well but the main thing for me is you can comfortably sit it in your lap and use it with one hand whereas with normal tablet you would normally hold it with one hand and control it with the other.
Although If your not interested in the keyboard dock id say there are probably many better options (probably tegra 3 options) for a standalone tablet.
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Although If your not interested in the keyboard dock id say there are probably many better options (probably tegra 3 options) for a standalone tablet.
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Agreed, if I just wanted a tablet only, I would go for a N7. Even though it is only a 7" tablet, it has the same resolution as most 10" tablets and is a lot more portable.
frederuco said:
I stand corrected, but at the same time 24 FPS is "fluid" motion for most users. If you get below 20 FPS it can look a bit jerky.
Also, the games that are designed for faster processors (Tegra 3 for example) are simply not availble to install on the Tegra 2 devices. Some games (like ShadowGun) has a Tegra 2 version (ShadowGun) and a Tegra 3 (ShadowGun THD)
I think the Keyboard dock is great, you get a real keyboard and 2 USB port along with an SD slot. I have a 64 GB microSD and a 64 GB SD card. And it gives the extra battery and a real keyboard.
However, many users do not feel the need to have or use the keyboard dock. I know quite a few users who have never had a dock and just use a USB adapater when they need it. Most of them seem to work pretty well.
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Hmm its sad that I'd be locked out from the newer tegra games but I guess thats okay. Well thats good news. Anyways two last and simple queries:
1: Can I flip the display vertically and use the device upside down cause the usb kit does look like it would get in the way if it were placed at the bottom like that?
2: If I plugged in a pen drive to the tablet via the USB, I can easily copy-paste files from the pen drive to the internal storage right?
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Well my post kind of was all about the tf101 plus dock, its kind of the same story with the whole transformer line, they are all about the keyboard dock. Personally i cant stand tablets on their own, 95% of the time my tf101 is used as a net-book kind of thing. The keyboard dock effectively doubles the battery life to something like 16 hours, the usb/ sdcards are handy as well but the main thing for me is you can comfortably sit it in your lap and use it with one hand whereas with normal tablet you would normally hold it with one hand and control it with the other.
Although If your not interested in the keyboard dock id say there are probably many better options (probably tegra 3 options) for a standalone tablet.
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Agreed, if I just wanted a tablet only, I would go for a N7. Even though it is only a 7" tablet, it has the same resolution as most 10" tablets and is a lot more portable.
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I understand what you'll guys are trying to suggest but I don't really want the keyboard dock. The whole point of this tablet is multimedia usage and I'd hate to spend extra on a keyboard which I don't know if I'd be using a lot. Sure its nice thats it got a usb and sd card slot but I'd rather grab a stand and use the tablet as a tablet rather than a netbook or else I'd save more and get a cheap Fusion netbook.
Actually I don't think there are better options. The TF101 seems to have the best screen, build quality and dev support from the first gen tablets and for 200$, I think its pretty good. However I am keeping the Iconia A200 as an option too as it seems to be going for a very tempting 150$s. N7 is out simply cause I don't want just 7" or I'd take it no questions asked lol.
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Hmm its sad that I'd be locked out from the newer tegra games but I guess thats okay. Well thats good news. Anyways two last and simple queries:
1: Can I flip the display vertically and use the device upside down cause the usb kit does look like it would get in the way if it were placed at the bottom like that?
2: If I plugged in a pen drive to the tablet via the USB, I can easily copy-paste files from the pen drive to the internal storage right?
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1 - Most apps, yes. There are some apps that may force the normal charger port on the bottom, but very few.
2 - Yes, the in built file manager has drag and drop from the external (microSD and USB drives) to the internal.
Hi,
I am currently owning a Sony Tablet S 16GB WiFi. I would like to replace it, because of some errors like unstable WiFi and sudden system shutdowns.
The main usage for a new device would be internet and email at home and some games. I don't need to have 3G in the tablet.
Currently I am thinking about the following two tablets:
- a used Asus Transformer Infinity TF700T with 64GB and without key dock
- a new Pipo M9 Pro with 32GB and 3G
Both will be 10.1" providing the same screen resolution.
What do you think would be the better option? Go for a used tablet from a large brand, or try a new Chinese tablet?
Regards
Sven
I had Asus Infinity TF700T before, but I was very disappointed about the bad build quality and the lagging of the device. The browser was laggy and it crashed a lot, and for example the appearance of the keyboard was terribly slow. I hated that tab in every moment. I didn't install any custom ROMs because it required unlocking the device and loosing the warranty.
So I sold it and bought Pipo M7pro with 3G. I like the screen (8.9" full HD IPS) and size of the tablet and this is much faster and smoother than Asus TF700, no lagging or crashing. Also the build quality is better than on Asus, which had loose screen even repaired three times for warranty! I can say the battery life on my usage is better on Pipo M7pro, than it was on TF700T.
I have had it over month no and I'm still really satisfied of this cheap Chinese tab. The multi window feature is pretty cool! Check the video from youtube. :good: