Related
Anyone know anything about the Meego? Would you be able to flash the htc tp2 and put Meego on it?
Good question! I'd also like to know if there is possibility to port Meego to HTC WM and/or Android devices just by cooking a new ROM - or are there significant h/w issues? Also to know how difficult it is to modify apps to run on Meego that have been written for Android or WMx.
Don't we all wish?
Lol when I saw this thread my heart jumped out my chest. Then reality struck. And reality is, its not ever gonna happen. And if it does, it will be because someone used a lot of stuff from the Android port (Meego, and Android are both base on Linux Mobile Kernel). Anyhow even if you did get it to boot it would be plagued with issues and honestly not ever work the way we all want.
Hardware issues aren't really there, just no drivers available. Hell at this point I would be happy with a touch pro 3 with 1ghz omap/snapdragon and winmo/android either. But no luck for that, and we are even farther from seeing meego coming out of HTC. Here is to hoping the N9 is good and ever sees stateside.. Hope someone proves me wrong!
mike.waters said:
Good question! I'd also like to know if there is possibility to port Meego to HTC WM and/or Android devices just by cooking a new ROM - or are there significant h/w issues? Also to know how difficult it is to modify apps to run on Meego that have been written for Android or WMx.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh as for programming... thats where Meego excels. Winmo already has support for Qt 4.6 and that is how I currently develop apps for winmo5.X+. Then when I change my device to meego (target device), recompile, and it is ready not a single line of code changed. But that is more the power of Qt than any significant advantage to winmo. Android support is coming so be ready for a wave of amazing Qt apps. Thank you Trolltech and Nokia. Long Live QT!
Dead thread/project/idea? I'd love to run Meego on Rhodium. There are some Linux games (Cave Story!) I'd like to carry on my phone but I don't want to install Rhobuntu. Meego'd let me run Linux apps and make calls without having to reboot.
Me too! Keep the thread up!
nathanpc said:
Me too! Keep the thread up!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could anyone do it?!
It's based on Linux, so it can be booted using HaRET... People can port Ubuntu, but can't port Meego?
nathanpc said:
It's based on Linux, so it can be booted using HaRET... People can port Ubuntu, but can't port Meego?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm with ya.
BUMP!
Another Bump!
It hasn't even gotten a successful Official port yet, and you guys are asking for it to be on the Rhodium already? Geeze. The Leo hasn't even got a functional port yet, and they have more devs than we'll ever see here.
The moral of the story is be patient, or please help to contribute. I don't mean to sound like a jerk, it's just that Meego is loosing momentum in an official capacity now with only Intel working on it currently.
bump
Just keeping things alive if I can. I think this would be absolutely great. I will be patient....but man that would be cool. I still have a ways to go on my contract and I really don't feel like investing in another phone atm. I'd rather get a laptop...
I'm all for this as well. So BUMP
Frankly I love my TP2, hopefully HTC will put out a TP3, though it appears the HTC 7 Pro, is the Touch Pro 3.
Hi all,
I want to use android, but the wave has camera flash and the same hardware as the galaxy s. Will it be possible to port android to wave easily? And is it likely that someone will do that in the future, since I can't do it myself?
Thanks in advance
anyone can help?
I do not think android will be ported to Wave.
damnd
i too am curious if ther are any devs out there who might want to droid the wave.
gotta say, i did look at the s8500 (wave) and hardware specs totally confirm: i want it.
but i refuse bada. I want android.
Yes, the galaxy s is the other choice with nearly the same hardware... but the price!!
Samsung galaxy s: 499€
Samsung Wave : 305€
that is nearly 200€ extra for a phone with the same specs, no cam light and android.
i kinda refuse to pay that.
sorry samsung, you loose.
(ps: with 10% of the money saved on the wave we could maybe get a dev to do this? )
Me also
I would pay 10% of the money I saved, the galaxy s is to big
vestaxman said:
I would pay 10% of the money I saved, the galaxy s is to big
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You think someone will spend 50+ hours to port android to Wave for 20 Euro?
Szadzik said:
You think someone will spend 50+ hours to port android to Wave for 20 Euro?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
is it pessimism or arrogance that makes you say that?
ehw, doesn't matter to me anyways.
considering i'm _not_ the only one who'd be ready to give a little cash for a port, there might very well be more than 20€ in it.
But as most of the people in this forum do this stuff for free, why the hell would 20€ and some definite fame (and love by me) not encourage someone to do it?
Aaaand who sais it will take 50+hrs? that is definitely plain pessimistic!
i dont mean to hurt any feelings or anything, but you really dont see any "android ports" that actually work... and if i hear someone use the word droid one more time without making referance to 1 of the 3 android phones verizon offers, im going to shoot myself.. back on topic though, andoid isnt about making it work were it shouldnt. its about making it work earlier than sprint verizon htc motorola etc etc want it working. ;]
dashmatticks said:
andoid isnt about making it work were it shouldnt. its about making it work earlier than sprint verizon htc motorola etc etc want it working. ;]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
umad?
'droid (yeah, i did it, please go ahead ) is an open source system pretty closely related to linux/unix afaik (might be wrong there, but what i seen from filestructure etc...)
sooo why do people install linux/unix on their coffeemaker, washing machine or mobile phone?
because they can!
...but if i'm wrong about the purpose of android related discussions on xda-devs and you Sir are correct about just beeing ahead of the game of vendors, i sincierly apologize and will go buy an iphone now. -.-
not.
Samsung Wave with Android
Hi Folks,
In a good month time I´m also in the line with a new phone.
I´m also currently in love with the Hardware and Size of the Samsung Wave but personaly don´t like the current SW status of Bada.
So if there is someone out there willing to port Android to it I´m also willing to sponsor my 10% as zerthrymr.
I believe there are quite a few people out there that might join so the programmer should break even soon with the time spend.
dont mean to hurt any feelings or anything, but you really dont see any "android ports" that actually work... and if i hear someone use the word droid one more time without making referance to 1 of the 3 android phones verizon offers, im going to shoot myself.. back on topic though, andoid isnt about making it work were it shouldnt. its about making it work earlier than sprint verizon htc motorola etc etc want it working. ;]
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just to prove that this can be possible http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yO2KQHkt4A.
Cheers
Rar9
Those are just emulations. It isn't really Android running on the device.
Bada can do themes! I think the platform is good enough to code some cool theme for it. Anyways, i have a wave now and i didn't pay a single cent for it. Samsung just gave it to meee
Hi all!
I would like to join to sponsoring desire of porting Android to Samsung wave.
Very very like specification of this device
Just get a Galaxy S or something, instead of wasting your time trying to port an OS.
Dude not everyone likes the Galaxy S and the Wave has a one of a kind look. Its just posting to a forum, so I don't see much time being wasted. Samsung or HTC or whoever will come out with something new in a few months anyways so we don't have to settle for the Galaxy S, but in the meantime it doesn't hurt to ask for possible options for the only IMHO non-ugly smartphone.
ive got a galaxy and would even put 20 bucks on the porting android wave.
Count me in too! I will also donate to the creation of porting Android to the Samsung Wave.
i'll donate to have android on wave
Well looks like this aint gonna happen, which sucks. Anyone want to buy a cheap Samsung Wave? I'm going to go get a HTC Evo!
Hello Guys...
Just got the Samsung Wave - and I must say what a great little phone it is - shame about some of the software (like the customisation that local phone providers have done - really slows the phone down - even to the pointof crashing it because their applications are not stable - Take note T-mobile in the UK).
The Bada system is not that bad - still in its beginings - but it is an Open system running on a Linux kernal - and its on par with Android (ok not as popular), but still good.
Since both the Galaxy S and Wave are running the same hardware- it should be possible to flash the Wave with the Android firmware designed for the Galaxy. I have not delved inot this much -so any comments from experienced developers would be welcomed - but to be honest I don;t see a problem with loading the Galaxy S firmware onto the Wave.
~LK~
Searched, and haven't found a thread on this.
I'm due for an upgrade in July on my Sprint line, and I was almost certain I was going to go with the EVO 3D (when it comes out), but then I saw the HTC Arrive and kinda liked it. The thing is, though, that I really like Android as well. I know dual-booting Android was possible on the Touch Pro 2, so I was wondering if it's possible to do the same thing with the Arrive/7 Pro, or if having Windows Phone 7 prevents it from being able to do this. Thanks!
It cannot be done as of now.
Sent from my T7575 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
The HTC 7 Pro has the same SoC as HD7 and HD2, and both of them already have Android.
Why Android still can't be ported for 7 Pro?
I'm pretty sure that hardspl must be available before we can flash custom roms on our pros. More imporantly some sort of application like haret for WM6 but for WP7 would probably also need to be developed first. Hopefully some fine day it will all be possible like on the HD2.
i was looking at how they dual boot with hd2, and it looks like they boot from sdcard, and flash wp7. we shouldn't need to flash wp7, but booting android is sdcard boot. so i see no reason why we can't boot from sdcard, unless we need a special boot loader, and the boot loader they need doesn't have the access to wp7 to get the boot loader working properly and that goes beyond me please correct me if I'm wrong.
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just got my Arrive from Evo. LOVE IT. My Fiance loves it aswell surprisingly and she is getting one soon :]. Atleast untill Evo 3D..
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks for your opinion....
exilkubaner said:
thanks for your opinion....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
eric12341 said:
not an opinion,plenty of articles to back up my claims. sorry your feelings got hurt jaja.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
Acsteffy87 said:
and also many articles that say the opposite. Dont just spew out stuff and say it as fact. Other people have different preferences.
iOS is just as fragmented as Android. Only thing is that Apple controls the fragmentation so dumbass developers dont try making completely universal apps when they dont know how the hell to do that.
And fragmentation isnt an issue for consumers. Its perfectly fine. So i dont understand your bias against it unless you are a developer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
its not fragmentation thats an issue for consumers its malware, there have been numerous reports about this already, im not an iFan either
I really don't care whether you or anyone says android is worse or better than wp7 but it would be nice to switch if one wants to. so when there is a thread discussing the possibility to port android on the 7 pro, there is no need for no-sayers, since they can occupy their brains with other stuff.
i would love to see this, but especially since there is only 1 sd-card, its either flashing one or the other i think...
Not possible on wp7 YET
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
Hello all,
I am new to mobile phones and I would like to post some questions, which are general in fact, but closely related to the topic and the Arrive device.
I would like to have another OS on it and I have found a way to change the SD cart it is running with, so I should be able to change or modify it with no trouble.
I imagine that I could find another HTC device with identical hardware and deploy it's ROM to this one in a manner similar to HD2's approach. I am so new that I already can feel how dumn is that ... but still.
I need to clarify some basics in order to know what to look for. First of all what does the firmware does and how it is related to the OS. Can I imagine it is something like BIOS, which controls the main hardware like processor, ram, telephony, etc? If so what stops me of formatting the SD and booting another system from it on the same hardware.
Another thing is what the ROM contains and how it is related to the OS. I am with the impression that it has everything in it -- OS distributive, firmware backup and bootloader maybe. If that is correct am I free to cook a ROM that contains the same firmware (as I imagine it like a BIOS alternative), the bootloader of another system and its distributive? Of course the ROM that is already on the device may and most probably will try to stop me, so I will need to somehow format it.
I do not express myself too good due to lack of expertise, but I know computers and I believe you will know what to tell me to straighten my thoughts.
Thank you in advance for any information you provide.
Sincere,
drel
At this stage, pesonally, I think wp7 is the best os to me. At it is not laggy as android does and looks more beautiful than iOS...
Sent from Vincent 7 Pro using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
drelisimo said:
Up as i really need to know the answers.
Please ppl, if this is not the place to ask then guide me to where i will get some heads-up.
Thanks once again.
Drel
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
just buy an Android phone!
eric12341 said:
why would anyone want to put an unsecure, laggy,fragmented,built from stolen code OS like Android on a fine device such as the arrive? wp7 is leaps and bounds superior to Android and once mango arrives it will be even better. thus the need to do this isn't necessary.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think what you meant to say was "Why would anyone have a different opinion than my awesome opinion?" As much as I love WP7 I'd love to be able to use Android with this chassis. Choice is always good. There is no Android phone with this keyboard.
Sent from my T7575 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Bump. Having no Bluetooth SPP has just pissed me off for a year. About to get an Galaxy Nexus S come May, so I don't mind tinkering with my Arrive for now.
hello?
Any news about dual booting android on arrive / HD7 Pro? I read the thread and some users just talk crap. " Why this? Why that?" Why not, may I ask. I Love WP7, i really think that beats the crap out of everything else. But why can't we dream of having android too? As far as I know, Android has at the moment much more apps ( free and payed ones ) available than WP7. My brother-in-law has veetle ( just an example ) on his Xperia S, and he can watch live football/soccer which I can't cuz there is no veetle available. And who can name veetle, can name many others too. The point is: Combining the best of two worlds would makes fully profit from our beloved phones, which we payed ( at least I did ). I really hope that some news about this stuff.
Best Regards
Miiky
I've noticed no ones done this till now, even though Windows Phone has been ported to a few phones.
anyone know what the technical hurdles to this are? It seems like a good idea given the planned obsolescence of the WP7 userbase.
Sent from my Lumia 710 using Board Express
Don't know but it doesn't seem to be possible anytime soon. WP8 may be more likely although that will be clearer when it is actually released. I'm curious as to whether it be possible to port instead of WP8 to port the almost full windows r/t instead.
If you want an Android phone, go buy an Android phone. The Windows Phones from HTC and Samsung tend to have Android siblings.
I hope people that want to run Android on a WP handset never get to do so.
I've never been to the iPhone forums -- are they full of people asking "can I port Android to the iPhone? Seems like a great idea, just a few drivers to rewrite, Android rulez!"
tai4de2 said:
If you want an Android phone, go buy an Android phone. The Windows Phones from HTC and Samsung tend to have Android siblings.
I hope people that want to run Android on a WP handset never get to do so.
I've never been to the iPhone forums -- are they full of people asking "can I port Android to the iPhone? Seems like a great idea, just a few drivers to rewrite, Android rulez!"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, thanks for your opinion but some people will disagree. And at the end of the day we're geeks here - I see nothing wrong with asking why Android hasn't been ported to WP as of yet.
Why did u choose WP in the first place?
I was tired of Android!
there is no clear reason to port android on a wp, i think. But maybe it is possible. Anyway, if you prefer android OS, use it instead of wp
With Android being a battery and resource hog, flashing a WP device with Android more or less will give you a laggy UI and poor battery life. Not to mention the potential overheating issues some Android phones experience.
en...a strange idea...
BRZ_12 said:
With Android being a battery and resource hog, flashing a WP device with Android more or less will give you a laggy UI and poor battery life. Not to mention the potential overheating issues some Android phones experience.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I remember the Nexus S, which has a slower, older processor than the Lumia being absolutely smooth with ICS on it. Not that the Lumia 710 has amazing battery life anyway.
And ... Google chose to update the phone to Jelly Bean even though they no longer sell it.
Anyway, I'm just asking if there's any technical issues which prevent a port, I think some Android Phones (The Sensation XL by HTC, as one) is very similar hardware wise.
Just went thru this page to compare omnia w and galaxy w. If there are only devs here can do something. As I thought, bootloaders of these devices are different but hardwares are pretty much same except fot the display. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4114&idPhone2=4200
Hello all!
I've always been exclusively Android and never even thought about trying iOS.
But when MS put out WindowsPhone 8 I was extremely curious.
Now I'm about to grab an 8X off of eBay just to try it out!
Some things to know:
I'm on Verizon
I may want to "hack" this thing (I used to flash ROMs and kernels all day with my old Galaxy Nexus)
I have a lot of Google stuff i.e. Play Music, Drive etc..
Things I need to know:
Will this phone get WP 8.1?
Are there problems with the 8.1 Developer Preview once installed? (with the LTE or Beats Audio functionality or anything)
Are there benefits from unlocking these phones like free tethering and whatnot?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers!
I don't know much about this phone. I just got one as well.
But it seems to me that it's the complete opposite of a galaxy nexus : everything is blocked, impossible to flash downgrades, community is therefore not very interested in a phone that HTC didn't intend for "hack"
On the other hand I think it will officially get 8.1. And its a really nice phone I think (I use a nexus 4 as my daily one).
And for Google stuff use a Google phone (no gmail app on wp)
I have one branded and blocked. Kind of discouraging when you've easily flashed thousand of ROMs on other devices..
mikskcas said:
I don't know much about this phone. I just got one as well.
But it seems to me that it's the complete opposite of a galaxy nexus : everything is blocked, impossible to flash downgrades, community is therefore not very interested in a phone that HTC didn't intend for "hack"
On the other hand I think it will officially get 8.1. And its a really nice phone I think (I use a nexus 4 as my daily one).
And for Google stuff use a Google phone (no gmail app on wp)
I have one branded and blocked. Kind of discouraging when you've easily flashed thousand of ROMs on other devices..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey thanks for replying!
But yeah I assumed most Windows Phones would be locked up. Especially compared to a stock Android phone like a Nexus.
I just thing it would be cool to try out. I don't ever get much facetime with anything WP related.
Would make for an interesting change! I'll keep my Moto X around for sure though.
As someone with the TMO branded device, It is a nice phone. The Developer Preview for 8.1 has known issues with configuring CDMA devices. (it will be fixed in the final release).
As far as Windows Phone goes, it is perfectly hackable, it just comes down to sheer volume....Most people with a Windows Phone have a Lumia, so there are more people working on that. There are a couple of ways to load custom/other firmware for some variants of the 8x. (Most people have been posting in the WP8 General forum)
Also, HTC and Microsoft have both announced that the phone will be getting an official update to Windows Phone 8.1.
Hope that helps!