[Q] System space - General Questions and Answers

Got my Huawei Shine U8836D / Ascend G500 Pro and installed customs rom created by bgcngm - Recognized Developer. The customs rom created by him is excellent and out of the world. How can the system/app space can be increased to 500mb plus. I don't prefer to link to SD card with A2SD apk, prefer to have a real/permanent storage space increase.
Solution to my problem will be really appreciated.

akkhyd said:
How can the system/app space can be increased to 500mb plus. I don't prefer to link to SD card with A2SD apk, prefer to have a real/permanent storage space increase.
Solution to my problem will be really appreciated.
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Y do u want 500mb in the system/app?
There is no use of it unless u wanna have apps at system level.
And I believe only 500mb is allotted for /system folder ( may be more on different phones)
If you move apps to SD, it will give you more space on internal memory. Not on /system.
To get space in /system, delete any bloatware and stuff from there. (be careful while deleting, if you delete an essential one, the consequences will be bad)
LIFE! IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OUT OF IT!

Thanks
Thanks a lot for your quick reply. I prefer to place some of the required apk in system, so that it stays even after factory reset.

akkhyd said:
Thanks a lot for your quick reply. I prefer to place some of the required apk in system, so that it stays even after factory reset.
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andord's internal memory's partition is fixed; i mean the amount reserved for system and memory part can not be changed even if you delete some system apps...
the only thing you can do is, deleting some system files which are safe to delete, and use that place to insert your apk's...

System space
Lifehacker7 said:
Y do u want 500mb in the system/app?
There is no use of it unless u wanna have apps at system level.
And I believe only 500mb is allotted for /system folder ( may be more on different phones)
If you move apps to SD, it will give you more space on internal memory. Not on /system.
To get space in /system, delete any bloatware and stuff from there. (be careful while deleting, if you delete an essential one, the consequences will be bad)
LIFE! IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OUT OF IT!
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Thanks for the reply. I prefer to have more space in system.

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900mb free but low on space. need help

Hello,
Just bought new SD-card. According to titanium backup theres 12mb free phone storage and 1gb ext4 partiton (982mb) free space, but still i get Low On space and cant install any apps. What should i do ?
MisterMonitor said:
Hello,
Just bought new SD-card. According to titanium backup theres 12mb free phone storage and 1gb ext4 partiton (982mb) free space, but still i get Low On space and cant install any apps. What should i do ?
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The 12MB phone storage is what's killing you. In 'Manage Apps' under 'Settings', you can click on each individual app and send some of the larger ones to the SD card. You can also try clearing data for the Facebook app, which can hold a lot of data due to contact photos if you use it.
Just for curiosity's sake, what phone are you using?
Im using HTC Desire.
I understood that due to 12mb phone storage i get Low on space, but i made ext 1gb partition, so shouldnt now phone storage expand and became 12mb+1gb ?
All my apps are on sdcard, and no facebook app.
I made 1gb partition why its not helping ?
MisterMonitor said:
Im using HTC Desire.
I understood that due to 12mb phone storage i get Low on space, but i made ext 1gb partition, so shouldnt now phone storage expand and became 12mb+1gb ?
All my apps are on sdcard, and no facebook app.
I made 1gb partition why its not helping ?
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It sounds like you don't have apps2sd installed, or that the ext4 partition isn't recognised properly. I remember it was particularly fussy about whether the ext4 part was the first partition in the table or not, I'm not sure if this is still the case
Sent from my HTC Vivid
With previous SD card, There's 12mb free internal storage and 134mb a2sd free, 238 a2sd occupied.
So i really dont understand now :/. This partition is working but not all space in a2sd are used (134mb) free , but also 238 a2sd occupied. So its working, so why i get Low on space :/ .
On new card I made 1gb partition and 0 occupied.
And i cant run restore in titanium backup, because it shows there's no space, but i adjusted to write everything to external storage in titanium backup settings.
Please help, because now i bought a new card and cant use it :/ .
I see what you're trying to do now
The phone will never show that you've added to phone storage, because you can't. Adding an SD partition won't increase your phone storage at all, it just gives you a place to put all your apps so they don't take up your actual phone storage.
There is something on your phone taking up the ~150MB phone storage. It may be contact photos, it may be SMSs/MMSs, it may be camera pictures and videos (if you haven't set the camera to save to SD by default). You've already moved your apps so it's not those. You need to go through all your apps and see how much each is individually using (in 'manage apps').
Pay particular attention to 'contacts storage', 'calendar storage' etc as they are usually the hogs in my experience, and you can't move them. If you sync your Facebook contacts with your phone, the photos and details can easily use over 200MB.
Thank you very much for helping me ).
I understood about memmory usage. Cleaned almost everything in phone memmory, but still 18mb left.
Its just a new SD card and so many problems. Now apps cant find root access, watahell ? My phone was always rooted .
Please someone help to fix problems, i want to use my new SD card.
1. Something happened to root. Titanium gets root rights. I BusyBox installer shows that my phone is rooted, but when i push install busybox it fails .
In titanium backup i press "Problems?" and it offers to updade superuser. I press Update superuser and imedietly get force close.
I really apreciate if someone help me :/ .
Try rooting again. If you're S-OFF already, SuperOneClick will make mincemeat of your Desire in one click (link in my signature)
As soon as something goes wrong with root, you need to have another try at it. If you get an error, post it here and I will help if I can

Using Link2SD Most effectively for Android Phones

In this article I will be describing the usage of Link2SD most effectively for android devices running 2.2 or higher or Custom ROMs.​
[Note: Your Device MUST be Rooted and have Link2SD installed with a partitioned SD Card. If not Rooted, you may visit my page on Rooting and Partitioning using the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37849627#post37849627
Rooting and Partitioning is Universal and can be done almost all the Android Devices using the same way but by using only the right update.zip meant for the particular Device.
Have you installed Link2SD after doing partition, but still are not able to free up enough space? The reason for this problem is that even after you link the application to SD, some portion of the app, remains on the Internal Memory. These files are called DEX files which occupy space in the Dalvik cache of the Internal Memory.
In this Guide I will be teaching you how to move most of the portion of the Application to the SD Card.
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There are basically two types of apps. First those which phone memory only, i.e. can’t be moved to external storage without using third party applications. Such as WhatsApp, widgets, Anti-Viruses etc. To move these apps, Simply Select the app and Create Link. Then tick all the three options of Link Apk file, Link Dalvik-Cache files and Link Lib files. Now these apps will be moved to the partitioned storage without affecting their working. (Only a small portion may remain on the Internal memory which cannot be moved and is necessary for the proper working of app.)
The second category is of the apps which can be moved to SD. But Sometimes the problem with these applications is that not the whole part of the Application is stored on the SD card. Some portion remains on the internal storage which maybe annoying because even after Linking these apps nothing happens, instead they occupy even more space on the internal memory.
Now let us begin with the procedure.
1. Install Link2SD.
2. Open Link to SD. Filter the apps which are on Phone Memory only.
3. Select them all and Link them to SD using Create Link. Remember to tick all the 3 options- Link apk files, Link Dalvik (DEX) files & Link Lib files before creating the Link. This should free a lot of space.
4. Now Filter the apps on SD cards. Sort them in the order of Dex Size
5. You will find the culprit apps accused of stealing your precious internal storage.
6. The Dex Size indicates the size the app has been occupying on the internal storage.
7. Now Multi-Select the apps (5-10 at a time, because the whole apps will be moved to internal memory first before being transferred to the SD Card.), Select Actions -> Create Link. Select only Link Dalvik-cache files.
8. First the applications will be moved to SD, then Linked. It will take a minute or so.
9. After they are linked, It will take some time before it shows free internal storage.
10. Similarly do the same for all the other apps which acquire considerable amount of space.
By this method, you will get a lot of free space.
Want to free up even more?
Almost all the devices come with pre-installed Bloat ware, i.e. programs that are hardly use but occupy unnecessary space on the phone memory. Moving them to SD is a good option.
IMPORTANT: Do not uninstall or move system apps which are important for proper functioning of the system. You may end up damaging your device. It is recommended to make a backup of Current ROM using CWM.
The following system apps have been removed by me which do not cause any instability to the system but free up a lot of space.
1. Quickoffice
2. Email
3 Google Maps
If you use these apps, you may consider another option, i.e. converting these apps to user apps. This won’t affect in the functioning of the programs.
1. Select the app in Link2SD.
2. From options, select convert to user app.
3. Now the app will be moved to SD card but will occupy space on internal Memory.
4. Follow the above instructions of Link Dalvik-Cache and moving to SD using App2SD.
5. You are done! You must have freed a lot of space. Now you may start installing New Apps without giving a thought about your internal storage!
You can also free some more space( if occupied) by the following Methods:
1. Clearing the App Cache using App2SD or Link2SD.
2. Clearing the Dalvik-Cache using Link2SD. Link2SD->Options->more->Clear Dalvik Cache.
HIT THANKS IF MY POST HELPED YOU
Remember: Some apps may stop functioning or may Force Close. To fix this problem Re-install the app using Link2SD. :good::highfive:
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Actually, this procedure filled my internal storage not freed it :/
Mahmoud Ezzat said:
Actually, this procedure filled my internal storage not freed it :/
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Yeah! I can see why.
You must have done something wrong. Follow the procedure correctly.
I did
zaeemsheikh said:
Yeah! I can see why.
You must have done something wrong. Follow the procedure correctly.
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I'm sure I did follow it correctly, I also rebooted to clear any cached fake storage, but it didn't do me any good.
Thanks anyway.
Mahmoud Ezzat said:
I'm sure I did follow it correctly, I also rebooted to clear any cached fake storage, but it didn't do me any good.
Thanks anyway.
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I've noticed that moving via apps2sd uses internal for dex and libs, they have to be linked in order to save space.
Go to linked, multiselect and choose create links.I have to do this lately after every reboot as it leaves some files unlinked and some uninstalled alltogether!.
I got problem after move installed apps when i create link for it. The apps cannot open and when i remove link, the apps still can't open.
Please find the solution for it.
data to sd?
is it possible to link data to sd? i can't install anything else on my phone because the data partition is full.
yudroid said:
is it possible to link data to sd? i can't install anything else on my phone because the data partition is full.
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Link those huge data files? Yes you can. Use directory bind / folder mount.
Paradox ST21i
Thanks. I followed the steps but unfortunately the apps still occupy space on the internal memory. e.g. I have 3 apps -
1. Google Play services
2. Titanium backup
3. Maps
After creating a link, these apps still show up on internal memory using 12.25 MB, 12.92MB and 8.28 MB memory respectively. No effect at all. I have followed the exact steps. If i move them to SD card, it frees up some space but i believe that is not what is recommended?
Need someone's help to fix it. I have searched internet and they all talk about the same steps but does not seems to work. My phone is samsung ace S5830.
angarg said:
Thanks. I followed the steps but unfortunately the apps still occupy space on the internal memory. e.g. I have 3 apps -
1. Google Play services
2. Titanium backup
3. Maps
After creating a link, these apps still show up on internal memory using 12.25 MB, 12.92MB and 8.28 MB memory respectively. No effect at all. I have followed the exact steps. If i move them to SD card, it frees up some space but i believe that is not what is recommended?
Need someone's help to fix it. I have searched internet and they all talk about the same steps but does not seems to work. My phone is samsung ace S5830.
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with titanium integrate them in system memory
apk stays on phone memory
I've observed if I link only the Dex files, the apks stay on the internal memory instead of sd card. I could find them in /data/apk folder. Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong? :fingers-crossed: :silly:
I have rooted my Micromax A 57 and installed custom ROM, the system is working fine, but the only issue is that, I am unable to download apps from Playstore as my cache memory shows only 15% free, I tried link2sd with extended partition, but am unable to clear the cache, before rooting it was something 90% free.
Can some one help me out
Thanks & Regards
Nilesh
Yes it works
it freed my phone from 68 to 258
awesome
Truly awesome idea zaeem
Moving the dex files work.
And if using backup sw, kindly uncheck the auto link option from link2sd. As manually moving frees more space
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Link2SD Method & Problem Fixes
I've tried this method twice. I've got it working somewhat.
For the guy who said it took up his space, you've got to go into Link2SD & set the path correctly to your EXT4 2nd SD card partition. For example mine was '/storage/sdext2' for the EXT4 partiton and '/storage/extSDCard' for the fat32/exfat or whatever.
It will move some apps, but my problem is this. When I try to move "System Apps" or even some regular apps like SoundForge that said unmovable for some reason. It would disappear on reboot. I did the "Create/re-create bootup scripts" the "quick reboot user interface" all that. Out of almost 200 apps it said only 42 were moveable...they'll all show up but the whole purpose is to remove bloatware & stuff too that you may still want to use sometime via ur SD cards 2nd EXT4 partition.
After flashing a new ROM on my Note 2 SGH-T889 I was told to erase my partitions & re-partition. I've tried that still with no luck. I still can't move apps like "SoundForge" listed as unmovable without it disappearing on Reboot.
I've set SuperSU to allow su/root on boot. It mounts the ext4 correctly, still can't for the life of me get it working fully. I'm using the Ditto DN3 Hybrid S5/Note 3 ROM.
Do you guys know if maybe I have to install another Kernel or something for this to work?
I haven't found a solution to get the apps to stop disappearing on Reboot yet. Any help would be great on that note!!!
Thanks guys, & good luck!
khayjake/kminor
I'm getting "Android is upgrading: Optimizing apps X of X" when I link, everytime it boots. What should I do to avoid this?
link2sd problem
I have phone Micromax A116 after installing link2sd and creating 2nd partition of ext2 and i am trying to create link it shows remove link even though i have not created link
Some apps just stop responding after I linked it to SD Card, any guide to fix it? @zaeemsheikh
thesims2customs said:
Some apps just stop responding after I linked it to SD Card, any guide to fix it? @zaeemsheikh
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Try playing with the combination of what you link.
In my case, unlinking internal data (or just linking internal data) solved the issue.

[Q] Link2SD problem on Pranjal's Rom v4.2

Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
 @pranjal18
madmanmatt616 said:
Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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that's normall.....extend ur ext-sd partition....ow....and try hd2sd by @hillbeast ....it'll move ur dalvik-cache and more of apps tobur ext-sd than link2sd ....or...use kyrillos13's app2sdv2 script ....it does the same
Sent fom my S-II running >>SlimBean build 6.2 WEEKLY<< powered with >>DorimanX kernel 9.31<<
madmanmatt616 said:
Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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thanks @madmanmatt616
since you've formatted your partition, i would suggest you to reflash the whole rom again and run the script in terminal emulator (mentioned in read me file)
your problem had a very easy solution
in link2sd press menu>>more
here you have a few options...touch all the options below "recreate mount scripts"...and , "link dalvik-cache files" and "clean up teh dalvik cache" will give you more internal space!!
the problem could be that the data of the apps are collected in /data/data/"appfolder"
you can figure out with Titanium, which apps are using most space: menu-> overview of app storage use. then u can outsource the folder to sd-ext and make a symlink in /data/data to the outsourced folder.
mankokoma said:
the problem could be that the data of the apps are collected in /data/data/"appfolder"
you can figure out with Titanium, which apps are using most space: menu-> overview of app storage use. then u can outsource the folder to sd-ext and make a symlink in /data/data to the outsourced folder.
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Can you tell me exactly how to outsource to sd-ext? Just a copy paste would do? Then you suggested a symlink. I do understand why you told this, thing is I am clueless on how to link only one. As far as I could understand, link2sd creates such links from /data/app to the sd-ext. How do I create a link for /data/data/"appfolder" ?
I hope what I said makes sense . Thank you
sorry, so short on time...
MAKE A BACKUP FIRST, JUST IN CASE!
- copy & paste the whole folder to sd-ext with terminal emulator or adb shell:
cp -Rp /data/data/nameoffolder /sd-ext/nameoffolder
- delete the folder in /data/data:
rm -rf /data/data/nameoffolder
symlink:
ln -s /sd-ext/nameoffolder /data/data/nameoffolder

Atrix 2 4.04 Rooted System ROM too FULL! What do I delete?

Atrix 2 4.04 Rooted System ROM too FULL! What do I delete?
Forgive me XDA'ers. I'm getting older & I forget what I've learned here at XDA. It's been close to 2 years that I had my Droid X2, rooted it.
Haven't played with other phones.
So finally got an Atrix 2 & rooted it. Thank God found Boot Menu Manager here because ROM Manager wasn't working.
Anyways in Titanium Backup Pro says:
System ROM: 500 MB (7.16 MB free)
Having only 7.16 MB free concerns me greatly. What do I do to gain space? Ideally I like 20% or more free space.
Have 21 GB free on the 32 GB SD card & 4.31 GB free on the 4.88 GB Internal.
Have all the goodies installed afaik (emulator, Root Explorer etc). If you need more info or in another form let me know. Thank you kindly.
Afaik.. System partition only for system stuff.. I think its normal to have that much free space.. All other applications install in future will go to data partition.. Which is 4.31 or ur internal.. XD
This should be asked in Q&A section and not in dev section.
And to answer it, stock ROMs are full of bloatware which leaves you with least amount of space left on system folder.
So if you want more space, you can either delete unwanted system apps ( proceed with caution or you might delete a necessary file for the phone) or flash a custom ROM. I get around 100mb free space on my system with carbon ROM.
So is it ok to have minimal space left or am I just inviting trouble?
zapjb said:
So is it ok to have minimal space left or am I just inviting trouble?
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No problem at all. It doesn't matter how much of space you Have on System folder. If you wanna make an app as system app by manually moving it to system/app with permissions or if you're gonna flash a zip to add a system app, you'll need more space on system of course. All the downloaded user apps will be in /data. It is no way related to /system.
Thank you so much. I was concerned.
And thanks to the mod who moved this thread appropriately. Sorry about that.

[Q] Applications quantity limit?

I have rom with swapped SD and local memory. I have fast, stable big[32gig] memory card. I have free space on each visible partition.
Is there any quantity limit of applications installed on the Android phones?
When I remove one app I can install another instead of that previous, if not I am getting errors about 'insufficient storage'
The size of removing apps doesnt mattrer - I have tried to delete big games and I cant install more than one small app.
Please let me know what should I check. Maybe I have overloaded any hidden partition?
thank you
xysen0 said:
I have rom with swapped SD and local memory. I have fast, stable big[32gig] memory card. I have free space on each visible partition.
Is there any quantity limit of applications installed on the Android phones?
When I remove one app I can install another instead of that previous, if not I am getting errors about 'insufficient storage'
The size of removing apps doesnt mattrer - I have tried to delete big games and I cant install more than one small app.
Please let me know what should I check. Maybe I have overloaded any hidden partition?
thank you
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Partition for Google Play download data, kinda impossible to locate via stock file manager. Even my fresh Galaxy V (4GB) had this prob.
You may explore the whole storage module via root explorer or somewhat, or tweak the ROM to download any data to SD card.

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