Hey guys,
Could someone please let me know which tablets are being/have been released in 2011 sporting the Tegra 3 (Kal-El) processor? Especially if they're out/easily importable to the UK! Thanks
*EDIT* The one I'm aware of atm is the Asus Transformer Prime - does anyone have a definite release day for this?
Prime is the only one that's anounced yet!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour
"December" is still all I've heard of a release date. But it supposed to be a worldwide release so I'm assuming shortages will be a given.
mordbane said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/transformer-prime-detailed-10-inch-super-ips-display-12-hour
"December" is still all I've heard of a release date. But it supposed to be a worldwide release so I'm assuming shortages will be a given.
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Ah cool, so I'll be able to order it from the UK? Hoping to get it by xmas ya know
Prime in december
Cyrano4 said:
Prime in december
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Not for the UK though?
Nice Tegra 3 is very good
Ant38 said:
Nice Tegra 3 is very good
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why? beacuse of 4 cores?
You won't use the power of them... at the moment Android doesn't use 2 cores properly
2, 4 or idk 16 cores doesn't mean that system will be faster
look at HTC 7 Mozart with WP7.5 - 1 core snapdragon with 512 MB and system is very smooth and fast
I think that producers must focus at optimization of their version of Android
making smartphones with better hardware is not a solution - it only makes more problems
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why? beacuse of 4 cores?
You won't use the power of them... at the moment Android doesn't use 2 cores properly
2, 4 or idk 16 cores doesn't mean that system will be faster
look at HTC 7 Mozart with WP7.5 - 1 core snapdragon with 512 MB and system is very smooth and fast
I think that producers must focus at optimization of their version of Android
making smartphones with better hardware is not a solution - it only makes more problems
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Agree with you when you say about Android, which doesn't take full advantage of 4 cores.
But the main feature in the quad-core technology is the battery life saving.
Eventually, in the next year when there will be optimized app for dual and quad- core CPU, this tablet ( or any other 4cores phone) will rock for many, many months.
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But the main feature in the quad-core technology is the battery life saving.
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4 core CPU takes less energy than 1 core? you are wrong
yes its true that power use per 1 core in tegra3 is low but overall its larger that single or dual core
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4 core CPU takes less energy than 1 core? you are wrong
yes its true that power use per 1 core in tegra3 is low but overall its larger that single or dual core
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Yes, its' use less power for normal usage.
It's obvious that if you use ALL 4 cores, the drain would be more than a single core CPU:
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/hi...n-actually-use-less-power-than-dual-core/7976
Qualcomm as well is claiming that his next generation quad core phones will save 65% of battery life compare to the current ARM CPU:
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...debuts-single-dual-quad-core-snapdragon-chips
speculations and promises of manufacturers
the major factor of power usage is system resources managment
at start new 4-core CPU will consume more energy beacuse of lack efficient support for 4 cores - but someday it will be optimized well
but the question is: do we really need 4 cores? i think that we need better optimized sotfware
did I loose my mind? look at devices running WP7.5 and tell me that Android is smoother [I'm not a M$ fanboy ]
now with 2cores we have big computing power and it should be use efficiently
darasz89 said:
speculations and promises of manufacturers
the major factor of power usage is system resources managment
at start new 4-core CPU will consume more energy beacuse of lack efficient support for 4 cores - but someday it will be optimized well
but the question is: do we really need 4 cores? i think that we need better optimized sotfware
did I loose my mind? look at devices running WP7.5 and tell me that Android is smoother [I'm not a M$ fanboy ]
now with 2cores we have big computing power and it should be use efficiently
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I really hope is not speculation, cause we need battery life saving for our devices.
I am agree about the lack of apps optimized for a 4 cores CPU, however my I7-740Qm use less battery (I repeat on normal usage) than my old AMD Athlon XP, because of the improvement in architecture and technology such as Turbo Boost or Hyperthreading that Intel has implemented.
I believe the new 28nm CPU from Qualcomm and Nvidia will bring similar helpful features.
you're comparing normal CPU's
all the time I was talking about CPU on smartphones
difference between those two CPUs you mentioned is comparable to difference between Ford T and Ferrari Enzo
on smartphones we have limited resources - you cannot easily add f.e. 512 MB of RAM, change CPU or GPU
we have more limited hardware compared to PC
the goal is optimalization of software not adding cores to CPU or more RAM
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Tegra2 and Tegra3 both have 40 nm process
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@OP
2011 is not a good year for hunting Tegra 3.
With only one product Asus TF Prime out, it could happen like the Xoom launch.
Although the prime seems like a very nice upgrade, I'm already reading about Lenovo and Acer bringing 1920*1200 res screens.
I know you may have your preference on your Manufacturer, I do too, but it's better to wait a bit to see all the players then choose.
I waited a bit and got a Galaxy Tab 10.1 one of the best tegra 2 tablets. Really interested in what Samsung can bring in 2012.
darasz89 said:
you're comparing normal CPU's
all the time I was talking about CPU on smartphones
difference between those two CPUs you mentioned is comparable to difference between Ford T and Ferrari Enzo
on smartphones we have limited resources - you cannot easily add f.e. 512 MB of RAM, change CPU or GPU
we have more limited hardware compared to PC
the goal is optimalization of software not adding cores to CPU or more RAM
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Tegra2 and Tegra3 both have 40 nm process
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Yup that was just an example darasz89
Why do you think we have limited resources? Would you expect 2 years ago that one day we would use a smartphone big like 2 packs of cigarettes combined together, with a full OS installed, 4 cores, and 1GB of RAM?
Mobile technology is the future. We will see much more hopefully...
Yup, only Qualcomm for now will use 28nm technlogy.
priority of Android devices should be optimized software before hardware
I don't think that way you see the future of Android is bad, but first we should use all of "given power" of 2 core CPU and after that extend to 4core
funny summary: "With great power comes great responsibility."
Just pre-ordered prime from my local Future Shop. *Anxiously awaiting*
darasz89 said:
priority of Android devices should be optimized software before hardware
I don't think that way you see the future of Android is bad, but first we should use all of "given power" of 2 core CPU and after that extend to 4core
funny summary: "With great power comes great responsibility."
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Actually that should be the priority of software in general, but wrriting good code is hard enough. Right now, ever since the software crisis, hardware has always been two three steps ahead of software, and right now it is in a way a good thing. You don't want a software to be lagging on your computer because its not powerful enough right? You'd rather have the extra juice to power any software with ease.
Hey guys!! According to bestbuy canada, the expected warehouse delivery date is December 5, 2011. Not going to check elsewhere, but just an FYI to all who asked.
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Hello everyone
I want to buy a budget tablet and of so much research i have found two tablets in my budget
1. Ainol novo 7 tornados
2. Ainol novo 7 advanced 2
The screen size, processor and most of the hardware are same and both run ics. The only difference is that Advanced 2 has a allwinner a10 processor and tornados has amlogic. The allwinner is based on cortex a8 while the amlogic is based on cortex a9. The following site compares them but i am confused that if a8 is better than what is the use of a9. Isnt the cortex a9 successor of cortex a8
Actually i cant post link because of restriction so do a google search for allwinner vs amlogic and click the link of "slate 4 sure blog"
Please recommend me that which one should i buy and is the comparison true.(i.e A8>A9)
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AndroidAddiction said:
Hello everyone
I want to buy a budget tablet and of so much research i have found two tablets in my budget
1. Ainol novo 7 tornados
2. Ainol novo 7 advanced 2
The screen size, processor and most of the hardware are same and both run ics. The only difference is that Advanced 2 has a allwinner a10 processor and tornados has amlogic. The allwinner is based on cortex a8 while the amlogic is based on cortex a9. The following site compares them but i am confused that if a8 is better than what is the use of a9. Isnt the cortex a9 successor of cortex a8
Actually i cant post link because of restriction so do a google search for allwinner vs amlogic and click the link of "slate 4 sure blog"
Please recommend me that which one should i buy and is the comparison true.(i.e A8>A9)
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Hey...check this website out. i don't know why XDA developers haven't dug into everything Ainol since they're cheap and powerhouses. i would suggest you ask there but in my experience the a9 is a successor and it's much faster. here's the lnk http://www.slatedroid.com/forum/341-ainol-amlogic-cpu-devices/ and there you have all the devices. unfortunately the Advanced 2 is in the upper thread since it's a bit older! I got my Tornados for only 71 USD off of ebay and it regularly ranges to 100 USD...so if you gotta spend the extra couple of bucks for newer software ..then why not...if i helped press the Gracias ( thank you) button
if I could relight this one briefly so I don't create a new thread: can one of you more knowledgeable guys explain to me: for a single core Cortex-A9 implementation like an AW or the AGPtek / WM8850 unit, does it matter much how generous internal memory is? 512mb sounds like enough for such simple design but I do not yet understand how the memory controller manages memory especially to feed the graphics processing unit. for the little cost, i'm prone to want to go "more is better" route: 1GB of internal...
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if I could relight this one briefly so I don't create a new thread: can one of you more knowledgeable guys explain to me: for a single core Cortex-A9 implementation like an AW or the AGPtek / WM8850 unit, does it matter much how generous internal memory is? 512mb sounds like enough for such simple design but I do not yet understand how the memory controller manages memory especially to feed the graphics processing unit. for the little cost, i'm prone to want to go "more is better" route: 1GB of internal...
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Are both tablets with the same AP? If not then more may not necessarily be better. Let me explain - if one of them has a dual channel memory controller, pick that even if it has lower memory. The reason is that in case of dual channel memory controller the arbitration overhead is lower so memory fetch latency is lower for all components.
If they both have a single channel memory controller, pick the one with the 1GB RAM. Hopefully answers your questions.
As far as how the memory feeds the GPU - usually it is the other way round. It is the GPU that fetches the data from memory. The implementation is very different from GPU to GPU and therefore from AP to AP.
Allwinner has bigger community and 1GB is better!
Eight cores, in a mobile processor? Balderdash! But according to EETimes, that's just what Samsung's planning on unveiling in February at the International Solid-State Circuits Conference (that sounds so exciting).
Now before you get too excited, this isn't - technically speaking - an eight-core processor. It's a dual quad-core, which is to say, a two-processor chip. The design is based on a reference architecture thought up by ARM themselves, dubbed "big.little," and is designed to combine the light-load battery life of a high-efficiency quad-core 28nm ARM A7 chip with a super-hi-po A15 processor for heavy lifting. The exact specifications, for our nerdier readers, are: 1 quad-core ARM A7 chip clocked at 1.2GHz for everyday tasks, and 1 quad-core ARM A15 chip clocked at 1.8GHz w/ 2MB L2 cache for processor-intensive tasks like video games.
ARM itself has said the "big.little" project is delivering benefits beyond those expected when the architecture was initially announced, and Samsung's chip should be the first on the market based on the concept. So yes, this will be a new Exynos of some sort.
Should you expect this chip in the Galaxy S IV (or whatever Samsung's going to call it - because that's far from a given)? It's possible, but not necessarily likely. The gap between chip announcement and tape-out (mass-production readiness) can be lengthy. With the first batch of Exynos 5 Dual devices just now hitting the market in the form of the new Samsung Chromebook and Nexus 10, this eight-core beast may not be ready in time for the next "next big thing." Samsung could very well specifically be targeting this chip for Chromebooks and Windows RT / Android tablets before taking a dive into smaller form factors, too.
Either way, it's exciting business - I can't say I ever tire of technology getting faster.
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to be honest lately i have started to lose interest in Samsung due to the whole exynos issue and lack of support for developers but if this is to be true then i feel comfortable in making my next device a Samsung (only with this chip ovcourse) lets hope we see this chip come to more devices if it is infact released we will have to wait and see what samsung brings us in 2013 to decide if our loyalty to samsung is acctually worth it
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Hi Tech Gurus,
I'm not the most well verse with tech. Looking for some guidance.
I'm in the market for an external android box for my car. There are 2 options I'm choosing from with the following hardware:
1. Grom VL2: Rockchip 3288 - Quad Core Arm Cortex A17 1.8GHz / Mali-T760 MP4 GPU
2. Lsailt: Allwinner T7 - Hexa Core Arm Cortex A7 1.2GHz / Mali-400 MP4 GPU
Which of these have better performance? 4 big cores vs 6 small cores for a head unit powered by car?
Thanks,
Tech Noob
If you're looking at the processor alone the RK3288 is 50% faster for 33% less cores and it has many improvements over the T7 design. But the speed of the system is very much affected by the amount of memory (RAM). No matter which HU you go with get one that has at least 2GB of RAM.
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If you're looking at the processor alone the RK3288 is 50% faster for 33% less cores and it has many improvements over the T7 design. But the speed of the system is very much affected by the amount of memory (RAM). No matter which HU you go with get one that has at least 2GB of RAM.
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Both has 3gb of RAM. Thanks for the input. The T7 I believe was released in 2018 while the RK3288 was released in 2014. I thought newer might be better but thanks for confirming that the RK3288 should perform better.
I'm cleaning out some old stuff and found a super generic tablet.
it's branded Taiya T13
inside is a Topwise F721_mainboard_v2.0.0 with a Allwinner Tech A13 CPU.
it's on android 4.0.4, and app I try to open will stop working.
I cannot find any information about it.
Anyone have a more useful firmware I can flash, or recommendations on what to do with it?
Put tablet into electric waste: it's not ready to run modern Android apps.
The AllWinner A13 is a cheap SoC for smartphones and tablets of 2012. Compared to the Allwinner A10, the A13 is a cost reduced version without HDMI or SATA support. It contains a single 1.0 GHz ARM Cortex A8 core (ARMv7), a ARM Mali 400 (single core) graphics card and a video processing unit. It is produced in 55nm.
seems a bit wasteful, but it is what it is.
electronic waste it is.