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http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/04/29/skyfire-2-0-for-android-launching-today/
The way they do flash is a pretty neat idea. Heh. =)
It is back up on the Market, you can download it there.
someone try hulu -- i can't do it myself at the moment and i'm curious to see how it works(if at all)
Just tested it. Gotta say.
It's bad.
The pinch to zoom is horrible and I don't care if they can play flash. I'll wait for Froyo. Lol. Stock browser seems to be the best for me so far. Haha.
chowlala said:
Just tested it. Gotta say.
It's bad.
The pinch to zoom is horrible and I don't care if they can play flash. I'll wait for Froyo. Lol. Stock browser seems to be the best for me so far. Haha.
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I agree, not running the way it does on the HD2. I will wait till the official beta release of flash 10.1 mobile!
It's nice, and playing flash is great, but it's pretty choppy.
I'll stick with Fennec for now, I can wait for an official Flash release.
Haven't tried pinch zoom, but flash playback worked flawless for me on tmo 3g. loaded up thedailyshow.com and was able to watch a full episode without an issue
Why don't they have this running like it was on my T-Mobile Dash 3G? This is garbage. No flash in the browser. Only flash videos. For example, Strong Bad Emails loads up on my Dash as it would on my PC, but with Skyfire for Android, all I get are those damn boxes with question marks in them. This is a huge let down. Not at all what I expected from Skyfire. As far as I'm concerned, this is fail. Especially with true Flash support around the corner from Adobe. Skyfire had a chance to beat them to the punch here, and they failed. Embarrassing if you ask me.
Doesn't seem to work with all flash videos but its still pretty quick. Anyone know of a good way to test this cloud speed compared to any other browser?
After trying it out for a few minutes i figured out that it does load most videos. I cant check hulu since im a canuck thought. sometimes you simply need to refresh the page and it will find the video. i also found that if you load up the video and it just shows a white box it will always freeze at 25%. This is easily fixed by backing out and reloading the video. Whenever i saw a screenshot of the video while it loaded, it always loaded full.
sites tried and all worked.
crackberry.com
ign.com
xvideos.com ( hey... its strickly educational!)
I cannot actually tell whether this is using the cloud as claimed or not.
For example, using opera mini and visiting what's my ip will show an Opera ip confirming that your days is traveling via opera and is bring compressed etc.
Skyfire doesn't - it shows my ip and renders almost identical to the stock browser. Pages do seem to load a but quicker but that could just be because I'm expecting them to.
maybe I'll run netstat and see whether skyfire actually connects to a skyfire server when rendering a normal page..
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I cannot actually tell whether this is using the cloud as claimed or not.
For example, using opera mini and visiting what's my ip will show an Opera ip confirming that your days is traveling via opera and is bring compressed etc.
Skyfire doesn't - it shows my ip and renders almost identical to the stock browser. Pages do seem to load a but quicker but that could just be because I'm expecting them to.
maybe I'll run netstat and see whether skyfire actually connects to a skyfire server when rendering a normal page..
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No need, I can tell you the answer:
All web pages/normal browsing is done on the device, and is rendered using webkit, and not through a proxy, a la Opera. This is the same reason videos can't be displayed inline. The only time the cloud is used is for transcoding video. If you were to watch a netstat while watching a flash video, you'd see your device connecting to Skyfire's servers.
No need, I can tell you the answer:
All web pages/normal browsing is done on the device, and is rendered using webkit, and not through a proxy, a la Opera. This is the same reason videos can't be displayed inline. The only time the cloud is used is for transcoding video. If you were to watch a netstat while watching a flash video, you'd see your device connecting to Skyfire's servers.
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That's pretty crap. One of Skyfire's attractions was that it worked like Opera Mini but rendered pages better. If its just the stock browser essentially with the ability to watch flash videos then it's of little value.
Lame D:
Keep in mind its still beta, it will get better.
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That's pretty crap. One of Skyfire's attractions was that it worked like Opera Mini but rendered pages better. If its just the stock browser essentially with the ability to watch flash videos then it's of little value.
Lame D:
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In my opinion, it doesn't work any worse than the stock browser, so it's still worth using. You're still getting the ability to watch flash videos(which has worked well in my experience), plus you get sleeker tabbed browsing and easy user agent switching right in the toolbar.
The only Flash Video I have been able to get to play are the ones on the sites pre-bookmarked on the Stock Skyfire Homepage. When it doesn't work, I get the Video popup, click on it. The video loads, looks like it starts to buffer and then, instead of playing it reads something to the effect of, Content not available for your device. We're sorry for the Inconvenience.
I haven't tested a lot of sites but no Hulu, no YouPorn, and worst of all, no Sirius Satellite Radio, like i could do on WinMo a year ago.
On the plus side, its nice to have the full Google Voice site available on the phone and Google Wave seems to be rendering nicely.
Great start, flash works good for me on tmo 3g. Videos look great. Rendering is good and quick. Like others said pinch to zoom needs work, but this is now my second favorite browser behind HTC sense browser.
I tested
IGN - Works
Gametrailers - Doesnt
Espn - Works
Facebook - Doesnt
thedailyshow - works
Abc.com - Works! (watching full episode of better off ted !)
Worldstarhiphop - Works
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Great start, flash works good for me on tmo 3g. Videos look great. Rendering is good and quick. Like others said pinch to zoom needs work, but this is now my second favorite browser behind HTC sense browser.
I tested
IGN - Works
Gametrailers - Doesnt
Espn - Works
Facebook - Doesnt
thedailyshow - works
Abc.com - Works!
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Yeah, I tried it on the daily show as well, and it worked great. Due to the way this is set up, it'd be impossible for them to cover every site. I noticed they do have a 'report non-working video' option in the menu, so people may want to try using that to help improve the service.
I noticed that you can pinch to zoom and with two fingers still on the screen you can scoll around the page.
Full-featured browser (Uzard) support flash
Similar speed and Opera 10
Please forgive my poor English
wvga version
Individual Test experience: play video,support WIFI hotspot; can upload / download files; most important thing is can quickly . . . . . . . BUG: prone to dropped calls, I do not know whether use the connection (network) related？
All in all; is a powerful browser
download experience will know..
This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us
I have to say, although I have barely used this new browser, I am very impressed with what I have experienced so far.
Excellent job.
It's similar to Mach5 Web, is there anything to do with it?
I like the browser. It will play Hulu videos. The only thing I don't like is that it detects videos and plays them in its own player. In its own player the videos are playing normal. If for example a site has a video ad then the clip you want to watch, the ad opens in the player then the clip stays in the browser and is very slow. If you try a video with Hulu, you will see what I mean.
Just to compare: Skyfire is blocked with Hulu, Opera seems to work but needs Flash 10
Brill
Fantastic - must be a catch somewhere. If i had to pay for this I would. Only issue so far is TVcatchup.com - won't play vids because it says i'm non UK - but i am. Any woraround for this?
Good browser only thing is that if video is detected it work like a charm
But if not you can't even watch the video it is very slow and you got now sound ...
So the only thing that should be improved is the video detecting mode.
Here is the website: uzard.com/en/main/main.asp
does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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the download is the P version... the H version should be a better choice? am i right? like opera mini vs. mobile.
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does it have multitouch? because if not, why should someone change fromopera 10 when it's so similar to it?
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Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.
I can't find anything but their homepage
I tried it, but the only thing I get is their homepage,tried xda,google opera,all I get is page not found on my hd2,I'm in australia,but surely that should'nt matter,pity it looks promising
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Since it can detect video on 60% of the sites so you can watch real video.
And it got flash.
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sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...
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sry, but what do you mean by real video? do you mean full screen? just doubletap on the video in opera to get it fullscreen...
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Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.
Pretty fast and most of the sites I tried worked without issues. Much better than skyfire, but still not in the vicinity of opera mobile 10. Got a lot of connection errors, but that is to be expected considering it's still in beta. Scrolling is pretty bad, but at least I always got the desktop version of the webpage(especially irritating with opera). Gonna keep an eye on this one for sure!
I tried it just now..
Flash ,Browsing works for me without issues
Good Work
Best Regards
REALLY NICE ! Videos are working very well and speedly ! ANd not only on Youtube : all flash in working great !
Simply very fast !
Already love it !
Ps : skin editable by open the exe file on pc, but it's about 1000 files to change ...
also works with megavideo. although beta, is certainly one of the best around.
Tx a lot for this tip ! Wouldn´t have found it on my own.
It´s the first browser that fully works with my online aviation weather planning program "Skyview". Also shows iGoogle-page fully and clickable. Videos work nicely (with sound)
Although beta, seems to have good potential to beat skyfire, maybe once even opera.
The only pain ita is that it doesn´t save pwds and that rotation has to be done manually. Will try now to add it to rotation in BsB .........
Will have a close look on further devs of this nice browser.
Once again: Tx for hinting
Finezt said:
This browser is very good better than skyfire.plays flash 10 videos in full screen its stable tabbed browsing favorites superfast( close to opera 10 )
i gotta mention that the videos are a bit laggy but then again its still in beta
Really recommend to try this browser and share your feelings about it with us
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How can I watch video in opera 10 . It doesn't show
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Well for example if you go to youtube. And you select a video you get:
Video detected do you want to watch it now. You press ok and you get the video full screen in Uzardwebs own player. As I already said this works about 60% of the sites sometimes it don't work.
And this is not opera this is just a complete different browser. So like you got opera, skyfire and Uzardweb.
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I didn't get that on hulu
the flash played natively in the browser but no sound =/
I'll try another video site
Original samsung browser wont work very well. What browser should i use?
I've been having nice results with the Dolphin HD browser so far.
Dolphin hd 4.0 and firefox mobile
Firefox Mobile for me, feels very fast but the fonts seems blurry sometimes.
Dolphin HD. Has the option to add AdBlocker... among many other add-ons.
I'm running Skyfire for the moment, it seems faster than the stock browser. I rried Dolphin as well but Skyfire seems a bit more stable and faster to me, but I have no benchmarks to back up my impression.
Dolphin HD all the way
Tried FireFox two days ago, but it was slow loading pages. The stock browser and Dolphin HD loads 50-80% faster.
Firefox mobile is fast...but the fonts are blurry because it takes a while to render especially if zooming.
Skyfire didn't seem as quick for me when zooming in.
I still ended up going back to Dolphin HD... I love the gesture support and use more of the add ons like shake to switch tabs, etc. I also think their interface is uch more refined
I use xscope, fastest browser for android, dolphin is way too bugged for me
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Azhad said:
I use xscope, fastest browser for android, dolphin is way too bugged for me
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Oooo... I must try this!
Xscope is inferior in almost every way to dolphin.
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Xscope is inferior in almost every way to dolphin.
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Xscope is way faster than dolphin, it has less bugs, and it can sync his bookmarks with the stock ones, which is a big plus for me, as I use the bookmark widget of launcher pro plus.
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Any one manages to get the full bbc iplayer site workin over 3g?
Not the mobile version. I keep being redirected to the mobile site and then It states can not stream over 3g. I try to switch the agent to desktop then bbc states that my phone is not supported :s
This is on both stock browser and also Dolphin HD
Just downloaded Firefox 4 beta 2... just released.... it seems to be MUCH faster than beta 1 which I only tried yesterday. Rendering of text and zooming is quicker also. I can't seem to sync with the desktop version though....
Dolphin HD all the way
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Just downloaded Firefox 4 beta 2... just released.... it seems to be MUCH faster than beta 1 which I only tried yesterday. Rendering of text and zooming is quicker also. I can't seem to sync with the desktop version though....
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Does it support Flash yet, though? If it does, I'll take another look. Otherwise, I'm trying to decide between Dolphin HD and xScope 6. xScope is a lot prettier, with the glaring exception of bookmarks, which it handles horribly - generating a sort of dynamic web page to list them rather than having a proper UI. No bookmark folders either.
I can't find any speed comparisons between Dolphin 4 and xScope 6, but subjectively they don't feel much different.
anyone know if there is a way to get the tabs browser on the sgs captivate? the tabs browser has the windows button next to the address bar and would be more convenient than stocks. (need stock due to some weird rendering issue with some sites)
Mate its just the stock android 2.2 browser with a few minor and mostly cosmetic changes.
But I've found its considerably slower (in opening web pages) than the browser on my 2.1 milestone.
Xscope6 is the best choice for me
Another vote for xscope. Its the best designed browser in terms of usability, speed and features. Would love to have plugin support though. I would consider switching to Dolphin HD if the interface wouldn't be so ugly (and oversized). Looks like an mp3 skin from 5 years ago. The fullscreen toggle in xscope rocks as well.
Sometimes whilst surfing the net i like to listen to Youtube while using another webpage to surf at the same time,trying to do this on my Asus but it shuts down the sound immediatley.
Is there a workaround available for me to listen to Youtube while surfing?
I assume you're using the stock broswer, and switching tabs? That's weird - and unfortunate - behaviour, as I like to do the same thing (though I haven't got my Transformer just yet).
Did you try maybe using the youtube app while browsing with the browser? It probably won't work, but it is worth a shot.
I don't have my TF in front of me, but did you try using youtube in browser instead of the app? I know the app sound shuts off, but its worth a try.
Yeah i've tried both ways and also tried using Firefox and Dolphin browsers but they all cut the sound out when you open up another tab.
Hasn't anybody else experienced this?
I have. I watch a lot of Flash live streaming (StarCraft 2 live streams), and every time I want to check IRC, I have to close the browser, which causes the Flash process to freeze. The same thing applies to the YouTube app. This is by design, and I cannot think of any way to fix it.
Really unfortunate, tbh.
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Yes, i have as well. The tablet doesn't do true multitasking as would a desktop pc. You can't have two tabs open that are actually streaming information at the same time.
I like to play music from one tab and work in another just like you, and the TF won't do this. It's like with the ipad or iphone, they don't actually multitask, they sort of freeze your apps until you open them again.
yea. noticed that yesterday...
sucks.
opened youtube to listen to a song, opened a second tab for guitartabs..
when i switched to the tabs..sound muted.
wtf transformer. transform your ass into a good buy..lol
turbulent28 said:
yea. noticed that yesterday...
sucks.
opened youtube to listen to a song, opened a second tab for guitartabs..
when i switched to the tabs..sound muted.
wtf transformer. transform your ass into a good buy..lol
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I don't believe its a transformer thing, thats Honeycomb.
Well if pandora can stream music in he background it is the apps doing. The developer designed the app that way so the app will not eat the batt and the cpu cycles when left open.
Otherwise a user would need to remember to close youtube correctly with an exit button or suffer a dead batt or slow tab.
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As previously mentioned, this is by design. I don't think that will change. These devices are meant to conserve power while giving good performance. Why waste it decoding video when it is not being watched? The device does do true multitasking so a browser of this nature is certainly possible. Music will play in the background just not video.
The flash layer hibernates when it's no longer in the foreground. It's by design.
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Ya, its battery management.
Ask in dev forum if someone can make an app to play youtube in background.
There is a post in the Xoom forums where is works with a particular browser and HC 3.1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13916886&postcount=68
I was streaming the "This is my Next Podcast" in a browser tab (Dolphin Browser HD) switching between tabs and apps with no problems yesterday. Maybe it's a settings issue, though I never made any significant changes so I don't know what it would be. I do use a desktop user agent... hmm, I'll try it again to make sure it wasn't an anomoly.
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Yep, doing it right now. Running .13 w/ Dolphin HD Browser.
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It must just depend on the player, some flash content may just be a no go.
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Skype works
I can confirm that xformer can multi-task no problem, but seems to be dependent on the app. E.g. Skype works fine. I can have a video call going in the background, the other party can see me and we can keep talking, while I can go to home screen, fire up the browser and start surfing. Does not work for Youtube. via the app or the browser's built-in. In fact the browser (built-in) itself seems incapable, i.e. anything running on the browser shuts down, if the task is switched away. This also applies to tabs, i.e. if I fire up two tabs at the same time loading content, only the tab on focus continues to load, while the other ones go on a "paused" state. I haven't checked with Opera Mobile (flash is dead slow on any browser other than the built-in one), so I hardly use Opera Mobile.
I think pandora works in the bg as well. But I wasn't able to get the music player going on the background. I haven't tried Amazon mp3 player in the bg yet.
My2c.
OK so I download every adobe flash version all the way to ices and still no luck. My 4.3 version worked on my old phone but with my nexus 5 no luck I even switch in between browsers fire fox boat dolphin u name it! Still flash will not work have anybody else tried this? Or experienced this ?
Flash hasn't been supported on android since ics. You might be able be able to manually install it.
Nope sideloading it doesn't work either. Looks like this is the end of flash
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Dude. Firefox + Flash .81 apk works perfectly for me.
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Dude. Firefox + Flash .81 apk works perfectly for me.
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using kitkat? ive tried every browser with .81 and it either crashes or doesn't detect flash. please share more about how you got it to work, thanks
I thought it was just because I was using ART but I guess we'll have to wait for a new version that works with 4.4
Using Boat Browser w. Adobe Flash Player (sideloaded) on Nexu 7 running 4.3.1 on-demand and it is great, no crashes or whatsoever.
Not with N5, however and Boat Browser is what I count on to watch streaming video over fiber @ home.
Probably need updating from the browser folks to make them get along with each other.
No go on my N5 with Firefox and Flash ver .81, tried playing videos from several sites and it didn't work
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No go on my N5 with Firefox and Flash ver .81, tried playing videos from several sites and it didn't work
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Okay, I know I am not crazy. Yesterday I swear I quickly watched a clip of a Prime video on Amazon on the N5 via Firefox Beta with the .81 flash apk. However, now now the Firefox Beta crashes as soon as it opens. I thought I'd try regular FF, which does open, but it says flash is not installed. The only devices I have in front of me are the N5 & the N7 & I am pretty certain I didn't confuse my forums/device yesterday, but I'll be damned if it doesn't work now, at least in the stable FF app. Of course, I guess it is possible, between a new device & the hospital & big UT Austin project we are working on. Damn it, maybe it's not such a good thing to order a new device while designing mechanical systems for critical applications.
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Okay, I know I am not crazy. Yesterday I swear I quickly watched a clip of a Prime video on Amazon on the N5 via Firefox Beta with the .81 flash apk. However, now now the Firefox Beta crashes as soon as it opens. I thought I'd try regular FF, which does open, but it says flash is not installed. The only devices I have in front of me are the N5 & the N7 & I am pretty certain I didn't confuse my forums/device yesterday, but I'll be damned if it doesn't work now, at least in the stable FF app. Of course, I guess it is possible, between a new device & the hospital & big UT Austin project we are working on. Damn it, maybe it's not such a good thing to order a new device while designing mechanical systems for critical applications.
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thanks for the reply. like someone said earlier today, hopefully the browser devs figure it out soon. I used to use boat browser or dolphin basically every day to stream sports through websites like vipbox or firstrowsports. I found out that photon browser works but its a pain to deal with and not the smoothest since it u watch flash through a browser on their server. having smooth flash on boat browser or dolphin was one of the biggest reasons i switched from the iphone to android devices!
Flash on Firefox isn't working for me either.
I didn't install Flash Player but Flash animations seem to work with Puffin Browser.
Flash on Nexus 5
I've tried multiple versions of Flash and multiple browsers (including Firefox, Firefox Beta [which force closed], Boat, Dolphin, Chrome and Opera). None of them work on my Nexus 5 at the current time.
While Puffin works that doesn't really count because it's using a hosted version of Flash running through a proxy. Apart from anything else that meant I couldn't use it to access BBC iPlayer (which I have the app for, but was using as a prominent Flash site to test whether it was working).
I would much rather locally execute Flash, personally, so I'm not sure Puffin really counts as a solution.
Boat Browser released an update that's KitKat or 4.4 friendly, auto updated on mine and it also fixed the FC issue. My favorite streaming website is accessible again but I still have some issues playing in full screen mode.
Haven't got around to root it yet to restore mobile Adobe Flash's latest *.apk
I'm not having any luck with my nexus 5 either. If anyone finds a fix for adobe flash, please post. Trying to get flash working was one of the first things I tried on this phone and am jonesing to get it working.
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I'm not having any luck with my nexus 5 either. If anyone finds a fix for adobe flash, please post. Trying to get flash working was one of the first things I tried on this phone and am jonesing to get it working.
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ff beta, flash .37, kk temasek for i9300. running fine, but far from 4.2 on stock browser.
Sideloaded player 115.81 (newest version):
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html
Flash still does NOT work with Firefox or Firefox beta, kitkat on Nexus 7.
I need firefox because of their FVD addon.
This thread also confirms that no one can get flash player to work on Nexus 5:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2511573
flash was working fine in Firefox, Photon, and Maxthon on nexus 4 and 4.3.
doesn't work on any of them today after updating to 4.4
hoping browser developers will be able to figure it out since they were able to before.
puffin works great for most but not all sites.
and It's also the only one that allows you to stream a tv channel in one tab while browsing in another.
on all the others the stream stops unless the tab it's in is on top.
photon also has server based flash but you got to pay an annual subscription with them for that.
(correction: free with ads. subscription to get rid of ads. and some sites that don't work on puffin
work on photon. It also works with the streaming tab in the background)
why would you want a streaming window in the background? so you can listen to
various news streams playing in the background tab, or youtube, while browsing in the foreground tab.
android is useless to me without flash in one way or another.
No idea why if it can be included in chrome os it can't be included in chrome on android since
newer android phones are running more powerful processors than most chromebooks.
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flash was working fine in Firefox, Photon, and Maxthon on nexus 4 and 4.3.
doesn't work on any of them today after updating to 4.4
hoping browser developers will be able to figure it out since they were able to before.
puffin works great for most but not all sites.
and It's also the only one that allows you to stream a tv channel in one tab while browsing in another.
on all the others the stream stops unless the tab it's in is on top.
photon also has server based flash but you got to pay an annual subscription with them for that.
(correction: free with ads. subscription to get rid of ads. and some sites that don't work on puffin
work on photon. It also works with the streaming tab in the background)
why would you want a streaming window in the background? so you can listen to
various news streams playing in the background tab, or youtube, while browsing in the foreground tab.
android is useless to me without flash in one way or another.
No idea why if it can be included in chrome os it can't be included in chrome on android since
newer android phones are running more powerful processors than most chromebooks.
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I'm with you on this one
Rolled back to 4.3 and blocked OTA on my Nexus until (hopefully!) someone finds a workround
V disappointed with 4.4 - not worth the effort for me.
flash is working fine for me, i use lastest firefox, and phony extension, and latest flash from that xda link
its good for viewing www.hockeyfights.com videos