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Why are you guys putting out so many roms and kernels, I can hardly get any "real" work done on my phone because I'm too busy testing out every new version of every new rom/kernel that comes out. Come on! I need some sleep to.
Well frankly I prefer a buffet where I can choose what I want rather than being told what to eat.
In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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necosino said:
In Soviet Russia, ROM chooses YOU!
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Haha fantastic !
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ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
nerozehl said:
ITA!
The myriad of ROMs and kernels have turned me into somewhat of a flash addict.. if I'm not flashing something at least a couple times a day my skin starts itching and I begin to twitch.
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Welcome to the brotherhood my fellow crackflashaholic.
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Well since you guys are soo experienced with different kernals let me ask you this question..
I just got my thunderbolt and I wanna root my phone and overclock it safely to 1.6g. So, which kernel would you recommend? BTW I AM A BIT OF A NOOB!! so please try and keep the terms as "noob friendly" as possibly haha. Thanks guys!
leanKernel supports 1.92 and BAMF will do up to 1.4, I believe.
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
magicriggs said:
Do you want sense? Run Perfect Storm roms with bamf kernel.
Do you want aosp? Run cyanogen with imoseyon aosp kernel.
Do you want sense removed? Run blackhole with bamf kernel.
OC to 1.92 I don't suggest, my phone locks up at that speed. OC to 1.4 stable.
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I'm stock, rooted, running bang 4.4.5 kernel, and get 24+hrs from my extended battery (a must-have) might be weird, but I like Sense...
OK, so here's a (useful?) question/request to all you ROM addicts (I am not one, unfortunately!):
Is there (it would be nice if there was) a comparison of ALL kernels and ROMs to see which gets the best battery life on their Thunderbolt?
This would, obviously, have to be done by one person trying out different combinations of kernels and ROMs, as everyone has different usage patterns (and different batteries!! --each battery, it seems, behaves differently).
But I think it would be very helpful for many of us folks to have a good, consistent, complete, at least somewhat accurate comparison, as the battery issue seems to be probably the single largest issue affecting the most people with the TB.
Anyone?
Why do you need to overlook to 1.6? For being a noob, that's rather aggressive
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027706
read read read!
noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
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noob question - what does s-off mean?
also, what advantages are there to removing sense?
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S-off means security is turned off on your phone. This will allow you to install whatever ROM you want to the phone.
ooohhhh
psufan5 said:
Just a holdover until CM7 is fully working.
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This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
mg00000 said:
This i can't wait for!
I might root and then hang by until the CM arrives. Only had my Bolt about 10 days now, and want to see it in action untouched, (but also minus these bad network connections), if CM7 is indeed close i'm going to wait for it.
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CM is here. They have some WIFI and 4g problems but other than that the ROM is complete.
I'm really very happy with my Nexus S 4G. It's unlocked and rooted, but otherwise pure stock and I really like it that way.
Coming from the Hero it's a pleasure to have a phone that doesn't require heavy modification to make it perform properly. Still, I miss the thrill of flashing ROM's and kernels.
I would like to try a kernel...mainly to simply o/c a bit, but I don't want it to suffer stable and reliable operation. I recall with the Hero, some of the kernels would adversely affect things like the GPS, making it something I couldn't rely on.
So my question: what kernel can I use that is uncapped, but will otherwise be as close to stock as possible?
Thanks for your thoughts!
Kernels are pretty different over here. I don't even know what's closest to stock. They pretty much all have mods in them. Matr1x kernel is pretty popular. You may have to up the voltage for it if you oc to 14xx. 1200 seemed pretty stable to me with default voltages. Currently franco kernel is pretty popular. You can't oc it, but it seems pretty snappy without oc. GLaDOS is also being used a bit but i've read some mixed reviews and for me at least it did seem a little lagging at times for the short period I ran it. I tried Trinity kernel when I first moved over from the hero and it seemed kind of flaky though it's possible that could have been due to the kang I was running. There are a few others out there. Cm7 kernel has a lot of the same mods cooked in though it's likely not the latest updates. You will see a lot of mention of BLN and Voodoo. There are apps on the market for those features and there's an app nstools that has some kernel config settings you can adjust depending on kernel. Mainly just try to read a lot. Most of the roms and kernels haven't given me any major issues beyond the random reboot, which coming from the hero, just means "normal" lol.
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Once you flash you can't stop O_O that my experience i'll direct you to Peteralfonso's kernel on his website here
Searching the forums would help you more than anything. You will get more info by searching, rather waiting people to reply here. These questions are asked on daily basis. And get the same replies everyday. I don't sound to be mean but seriously there is more info than you can get by starting another thread, only thing is you need to dig the info.
I have tried a few different roms and kernels and for once cm7 runs perfect for me w the supplied kernel. No reboots. Has been stable at 1440 performance for testing but I usually leave it at 1000 on demand.
Yeah they all have this blinking light crap in it now by default which I hate, and the lights turn off and I don't like that either. I want the light on when I'm using the phone and off when I'm not, not the other way around!
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I like the bln mod, but I do not like the one that turns off the backlights when using the phone. It's just easier to use the buttons imo and gives a quicker visual reference for everything. Otherwise I mostly am left wondering what is up with all the black space.
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suhas_sm said:
Searching the forums would help you more than anything. You will get more info by searching, rather waiting people to reply here. These questions are asked on daily basis. And get the same replies everyday. I don't sound to be mean but seriously there is more info than you can get by starting another thread, only thing is you need to dig the info.
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I hear you on that, and spent a lot of time reading comments and concerns and problems about the various kernels available. They all seem to pretty much be experimental, with various idiosyncratic problems and lots of bells and whistles such as aforementioned BLN, Voodoo, deep idle, etc.
I thought maybe I was missing something in my search for a kernel that would allow o/c, but not have the stability concerns of a the feature-rich, highly customizable kernels.
I think the Matr1x kernel will be your best option, u can OC it till 1400mhz, what I don't recommend to do, but at 1200/1300mhz its pretty stable.
It also got many options like BLN, BLX, Live OC, touch wake, etc.
But if you don't want them, why you just don't use 'em?
Like just flash the kernel and keep it like it is, and maybe do some overclocking.
wanna stable ? stock kernel
basically , there is no kernel more stable then stock ...
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wanna stable ? stock kernel
basically , there is no kernel more stable then stock ...
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True, but he prefers to OC it a bit.
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franciscofranco's kernel (link) works best for me. It's fast (no lags even without OC, I'm running at stock 1000 MHz), reliable (I've been using it for at least month and I haven't got any random reboots or application hangs) and battery efficient (thanks to deep idle and other tweaks).
irizwan said:
Once you flash you can't stop O_O that my experience i'll direct you to Peteralfonso's kernel on his website here
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+1
Never found a more stable kernel than Pete's. However, I've been on Glados for the last week or so and am seeing excellent battery life with Deep Idle.
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True, but he prefers to OC it a bit.
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personally i think overclock is totally unnecessary , why ? 1 GHz is sufficient to handle all job you require to the phone...
Best thing to do would be compile your own stock kernel with oc.
qtwrk said:
personally i think overclock is totally unnecessary , why ? 1 GHz is sufficient to handle all job you require to the phone...
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True again. I love 1100mhz because it gives you a bit more speed with no lagg, and you batterylife is still awesome.
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deville~> said:
franciscofranco's kernel (link) works best for me. It's fast (no lags even without OC, I'm running at stock 1000 MHz), reliable (I've been using it for at least month and I haven't got any random reboots or application hangs) and battery efficient (thanks to deep idle and other tweaks).
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with deep idle OFF, the difference between the two is minimal, idle stats displayed deep idle has been 0
Downloaded and testing peter alfonso's kernel now. Its very minimalistic, no options like deep idle etc, and u can OC it up to 1400mhz. Running 400-1100mhz for a day now and the battery life is just awesome.
U can find it on:
http://www.peteralfonso.com
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albundy2010 said:
Best thing to do would be compile your own stock kernel with oc.
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Or one with LiveOC which is kinda better cause it also OC the GPU =D
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the akward moment when someone said they +1'd you but actually didn't -_-
there're too many to choose.i don't like the ones that update so often indeed.
Currently on CM7 nightly 199, wondering which kernel I should use.. Has anyone here tried both?
Have you read teh last 5-10 ish pages from each kernel? Theres your feedback. All the phones are a little different, you have to try them out and see how they work for your phone.
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Have you read teh last 5-10 ish pages from each kernel? Theres your feedback. All the phones are a little different, you have to try them out and see how they work for your phone.
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Really man? You make it sound like this guy is wrong for wanting a little feedback.
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Currently on CM7 nightly 199, wondering which kernel I should use.. Has anyone here tried both?
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I've tried both and on CM7 Nightly 199, I prefer morfic's Trinity kernel. For a while he didn't have the SOD patch like faux123 did, but now that he does I'm back on his kernel. I use the ELP kernel and I like his philosophy of "less is more".
Plus his kernels have CM7 CPU settings support, which I like since I prefer not to use 3rd party CPU apps, though I am currently enjoying Pimp My CPU a lot with all of its updates.
Thanks for the insight! I think I might flash Trinity. Is battery life better/the same as stock? I definetly dont wanna flash if its gonna be worse.
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Thanks for the insight! I think I might flash Trinity. Is battery life better/the same as stock? I definetly dont wanna flash if its gonna be worse.
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I believe both Trinity and faux123's kernel give better battery life, though I've never stayed with the CM7 kernel very long to know to what extent.
I have to agree with all the others. Both kernels tend to give slightly better performance with better battery life. I tend to lean more towards the Trinity kernel because the CPU adjustments can be modified through the CM settings.
I only say that for issues that crop up with people who post on that thread, and have not read this thread. I wasn't being mean or anything, you can get opinions here for sure, you can just view more detailed bugs or current issues on the thread itself. Maybe I was a little short, in wich I'm sorry... but I have tried both and my opinions will differ most likely in comparison to the way his phone will react to each kernel.
Wasn't trying to come off as an ass =) sorry if i did. that's just what I do to view day to day current updates/bugs.
But I can say I used to use trinity t11 that worked wonderfully, then I had issues and bugs on the new ones (t15 and betas) so now I'm on faux's ds version and I get a good battery life now.
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Faux, voodoo sound keeps me from leaving.
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Wasn't trying to come off as an ass =) sorry if i did. that's just what I do to view day to day current updates/bugs.
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You're good man, no worries.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
Faux, voodoo sound keeps me from leaving.
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That's true, if you want voodoo sound, stick with faux123's kernel. If you look at morfic's thread though, it's probably coming back to his fairly soon thanks to supercurio.
good morning,
i'm quite new on this phone even if It works fine for me with a stock rom 4.0.4 I would you like to understand if there is a good advantage to pass on a custom rom.
Please share with me your experience and answer with my few questions:
what kind of custom rom and kermel you have on?
which is the difference there is in term of battery life; performance; stability.
Thanks for your help
Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!
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Welcome to the Nexus ... you're going to love this phone. With that said, you need to jump in and do some reading. There is no shortage of opinion on which rom, kernel, or even GB vs ICS ... is best. It very much depends on your likes, dislikes, etc. I assume that you have a gsm device, so make sure to flash the appropriate roms, kernels, etc. Lastly, there is lots of help available, but it's always best if you dig in and bring yourself up to speed with what's already been posted in these great forums. Good luck!
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thanks mate,
after few weeks i tested it, i find this phone a very good one and I don't feel the need to jump in a custom rom. I rooted it, installed a busybox and the clockwork and I added some apps to eliminate some gaps like the missing notification when the screen is off (I installed the noled apk for it) or like a switch off or switch on of the screen using the power button (I used an apps called accendi scermo and I switch on and off the screen using the phone sensor). The only thing that miss on this phone is an fm radio offline. I'm still searching a solution.
Stock rom: more stable, less features
Custom rom: less stable, more features
Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.
ics 4.0.4 stock+ simple or thalamus kernel
Or Bugless Beast with one of those kernels
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TigaTiger said:
Well if you want to be normal. Than good for you.
Now a custom rom and kernel can give you unlimited privilages to things you can never imagine possible. Undervolting your device to give you brain blowing battery life or over clocking to give you awesome graphics.
A custom rom like CM9 or AOKP (there are way more than two but im just listing the popular ones) is of course better than stock since... well if it wasnt why would they make it. A kernel links your hardware to your software, meaning you can do some tweaking in the middle. If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
Now thats just the basics. if you are interested and want more information. Just do a bit of research and reading in this forum and ask questions in those forums. Hope this helps.
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Thanks x your answer. You gave a good view. As sono i find ti me i Will try a custom rom with a kermel
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TigaTiger said:
If you find the right kernel and rom mix you can have a wopping 15 days standby on your battery (eg CM9 and Matr1x Kernel).
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I want 15 days standby! lmfao maybe a day at most if I'm at home with my wifi on and airave all day...
Lol
Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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chronophase1 said:
Lol. Wtf is the point in having a smartphone if you aren't going to use it?
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Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao
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Haha that's the problem! I use it too much! Lmfao
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Yeah.... well, I have to use 2 even 3 batteries for day as heavy usage...
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I am a new member of XDA, but have been installing roms and following multiple phones for years. I need help. I am having multiple problems with AOSP based ROM's. The biggest one being battery life, the other being random reboots. I can only get less than an hour and a half of on screen time. The random reboots have been with recent roms. I have tried multiple, multiple kernels and they didn't seem to work... at all.:crying: Any help will be appreciated. :laugh::good:
sucks youre not having a good experience. everyones phone is different.
im able to get 20+ hrs and 3-5hrs of screen on time with 4.2.2 roms.
try better battert stats to see if you have a rogue app.
i could honestly count the reboots ive experienced on both my hands total since around september. running KTkernel and a few different AOSP roms.
good luck. i know its not much, but i hope you narrow it down.
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sucks youre not having a good experience. everyones phone is different.
im able to get 20+ hrs and 3-5hrs of screen on time with 4.2.2 roms.
try better battert stats to see if you have a rogue app.
i could honestly count the reboots ive experienced on both my hands total since around september. running KTkernel and a few different AOSP roms.
good luck. i know its not much, but i hope you narrow it down.
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Thanks for the quick reply, hopefully i will find a solution for both of my problems. What you have experienced sounds amazing:fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for the quick reply, hopefully i will find a solution for both of my problems. What you have experienced sounds amazing:fingers-crossed:
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Try differ kernels Kt747 is what I use and they have tons of mods as well as team kernelizers make mods for it as well the threads are awesome and most your questions will prob be answered some where in there
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I will try to give that another try, thanks for the suggestion. I may have a bad battery
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If you overclock try to back down your Max processor speed, that fixed my random slowdowns and reboots on the custom kernel I'm running
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