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dont mean to be crude but it really sucks compared to old stock gingerbread sense browser. what can i do to get a smooth browser experience with no flickers and slow rendering after pinch and zoom? i tried maxthon but even that is a bit slow in rendering after pinch and zoom. i flashed the downgrade fix but that still sucks. in gingerbread everything was smooth. any help? thanks
walkinhotdog said:
dont mean to be crude but it really sucks compared to old stock gingerbread sense browser. what can i do to get a smooth browser experience with no flickers and slow rendering after pinch and zoom? i tried maxthon but even that is a bit slow in rendering after pinch and zoom. i flashed the downgrade fix but that still sucks. in gingerbread everything was smooth. any help? thanks
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G'day champ,
I understand what you're saying, I also had these problems. I don't tend to like Maxthon, Firefox is also still in what feels like an early beta stage.
I've moved towards Dolphin Browser HD, and I haven't had any problems with it at all. I'd provide more info, but I'm in a rush.
But let me know how it goes for you, as I'd love to hear your feedback on it.
Are we not liking Chrome, either?
yeah agree , before it was good but now i use chrome beta!
I got ics but I don't have any problems with my browser .
There's nothing wrong with the ics browser on my phone, and I think it's better because it has more functions.
ICS browser works fine for me on my nosense VI rom.
i tried chrome too. not really my cup of tea. im ok with dolphin though. you guys probably forgot what the gingerbread stock browser was like. I jus moved from gingerbread to ice cream sandwich and the difference is huge. i mean this new browser is ok, but i just wish it were more responsive and smooth with the rendering and pinch and zoom
I'm sure it'll be better after official release guys... And chrome is decent but I'm holding untill its released from beta
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I hate that link don't open up to the page I want, when I'm in a third party app.
Finally I am not crazy!!!
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I hate that link don't open up to the page I want, when I'm in a third party app.
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Yes thank you I have been having this problem too. I have only noticed it in Yahoo! Mail though. I have uninstalled it yahoo mail though. I have a full release version of ICS too. You would think they would check that with such popular programs as Yahoo Mail.
Thanks for the info. I've flashed a few ics roms & every1 of them has an unpleasant browsing experience compared to stock GB, especially on the desktop of utube. Does dolphin HD scroll & pinch to zoom smoothly on the desktop utube? I'd like to know b4 I reflash again for the 20th time. Thanx in advance
enserio said:
Are we not liking Chrome, either?
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I'm using Chrome Beta, and has so many bugs. I use Opera 11.62 for my computer's browser, but Opera on mobile doesn't like HTML 5. So, I still use Chrome even though it kind of sucks.
Yes it does.
Though this may work better in devices with hardware buttons such as the Sensation (I wonder if it does):
There's no standard menu button and you have to hunt for it in each application, as in all of ICS
The menu "...." icon, in Google's finest new style, is unintuitive and most often hidden
Can't search the page or perform a menu action withotu abandoning my current scroll position
But I've had even worse issues:
I can't find where can I change my User-Agent so that I don't get the crappy "mobile" sites from everybody; I haven't paid 500 € on a large screen phone to get crippled versions
I can't find where can I add custom search engines
Screen estate is often wasted with yet another obnoxious toolbar made of obnoxious Google style icons (i.e. ugly, monochrome, abstract and unintuitive)
And that's just from 5 minutes of use. Back to Opera Mobile — I suggest you do the same; it's faster, has better features and a much better UI (well, anything has a much better UI compared to Google's stuff since Google+).
I've choosen for myself "ICS Browser+".
Android 4.4 kills the old webkit android renderer and replaces it with chrome-webview. Unfortunately google didn't update the aosp browser at all in 4.4 so its only partially working. The address bar no longer autohides, it has visual glitches, is missing the history tab, and no longer has text wrapping. Its also significantly laggier than the old native webkit engine. Not only does this change effect the aosp browser, but it also breaks a lot of apps that rely on webview. This wouldn't be a big deal if the performance improved due to the change but it doesn't. It performs much worse than the old webkit engine.
It also is very disappointing to see google ship the kit kat source code with broken components. The fact that chrome still performs this badly a year and a half after coming to android is embarrassing.
Does anyone know of a way to port the old webkit engine to a standalone app, or revert the changes made to integrate chromium-webview?
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Android 4.4 kills the old webkit android renderer and replaces it with chrome-webview. Unfortunately google didn't update the aosp browser at all in 4.4 so its only partially working. The address bar no longer autohides, it has visual glitches, is missing the history tab, and no longer has text wrapping. Its also significantly laggier than the old native webkit engine. Not only does this change effect the aosp browser, but it also breaks a lot of apps that rely on webview. This wouldn't be a big deal if the performance improved due to the change but it doesn't. It performs much worse than the old webkit engine.
It also is very disappointing to see google ship the kit kat source code with broken components. The fact that chrome still performs this badly a year and a half after coming to android is embarrassing.
Does anyone know of a way to port the old webkit engine to a standalone app, or revert the changes made to integrate chromium-webview?
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This is why we need someone to compile 4.3 AOSP Browser with self-contained libwebcore.so + 4.3 webview library to fully get the original AOSP browser experience.
The closest we can get on 4.4 right now is Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack in terms of responsiveness and smoothness.. but it still has a few bugs, like the jumping pinch-zoom bug. However Dolphin Jetpack only works because it's a 100% in-house browser engine that replaces WebView in Dolphin. If you don't install Jetpack, Dolphin will be using the same buggy Chromium WebView.
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This is why we need someone to compile 4.3 AOSP Browser with self-contained libwebcore.so + 4.3 webview library to fully get the original AOSP browser experience.
The closest we can get on 4.4 right now is Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack in terms of responsiveness and smoothness.. but it still has a few bugs, like the jumping pinch-zoom bug. However Dolphin Jetpack only works because it's a 100% in-house browser engine that replaces WebView in Dolphin. If you don't install Jetpack, Dolphin will be using the same buggy Chromium WebView.
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Yes, definitely. I was trying to figure out how to do this myself but its a little above my head right now.
I started looking at the source code for the browser. What would be the best way to move the library into the app itself rather than rely on the android frameworks webview.
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I started looking at the source code for the browser. What would be the best way to move the library into the app itself rather than rely on the android frameworks webview.
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I don't know, figured you might know.
Hopefully more people see this and someone that has some idea where to start can help out.
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I started looking at the source code for the browser. What would be the best way to move the library into the app itself rather than rely on the android frameworks webview.
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Would that fix even Currents, Search and all the other apps based on WebView? Wouldn't that fix just the aosp browser?
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Would that fix even Currents, Search and all the other apps based on WebView? Wouldn't that fix just the aosp browser?
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Just the aosp browser. But thats a step in the right direction.
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This is why we need someone to compile 4.3 AOSP Browser with self-contained libwebcore.so + 4.3 webview library to fully get the original AOSP browser experience.
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Someone needs to make this happen... 4.4 is unusable to me in its current state because the browsing experience is so bad. Start a bounty maybe?
i agree with you!
How about to compile a android 4.3 version for nexus 5? or port a Nexus 4 ROM
The browsing experience on 4.4 is horrible and frustrating.. We have phones with quad cores and 2.3 ghz and web browsing is slower and laggier than on 4.3 lol. Good work Google!! Chrome on Android sucks so hard. And the shi%#@ chromium engine. One step forward, two steps back. I moved from 4.4 back to 4.3 BECAUSE of the horrible webview performance. Fix that &#&@ Google! Hopefully they add a fix or something like that. Instagram lags too and Google Now results and so many other apps. It's sad...
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Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack seems to work wonders on Kitkat. Nearly as good as 4.3 AOSP Browser performance, especially after the pinch zoom bug was fixed.
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Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack seems to work wonders on Kitkat. Nearly as good as 4.3 AOSP Browser performance, especially after the pinch zoom bug was fixed.
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I don't like Dolphin... Performance still worse than aosp 4.3 browser..
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Dolphin Browser + Dolphin Jetpack seems to work wonders on Kitkat. Nearly as good as 4.3 AOSP Browser performance, especially after the pinch zoom bug was fixed.
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Yes, Dolphin with Jetpack enabled is fast and double tap to zoom wraps text correctly. It's also much more battery friendly then Opera for Android, which wraps the text as well after double tap to zoom, but stutters sometimes horribly. Dolphin is almost always smooth, It's closest to AOSP Browser I found so far working on 4.4. Though Dolphin with Jetpack enabled (required to wrap text) has one major flaw - most of the time it covers xda forum pages with grey semi transparent overlay, in whole, or most part of the page. Sometimes it disappears, sometimes not. Enabling and disabling immersive mode sometimes helps, mostly not. I wrote to them about it. Dolphin devs are supposed to work on it, but so far last two updates of Jetpack did not fix it. Are you experiencing this grey obscuring layer on xda forum threads as well? (It does not happen on list of threads, only within a thread, over the text)
I miss AOSP Browser so much. Star the Issue 62378: KitKat WebView text wrap no longer works to fix webview.
If Google doesn't fix it, and to be honest I don't think they care, I'm realy looking forward to see somebody integrating 4.3 vebview within AOSP Browser so it works stand alone. I'd be willing to pay/donate for it. There are two apps on Play Store pretending to be AOSP Browsers, but they are mere impostors, one force closing on KitKat and the other full of adverts.
I'd be happy to downgrade to 4.3 on my Nexus 5 if that would be possible, just to have AOSP Browser working as it used to.
Nexus is becoming more Google and less Android with every next iteration.
Edit: I added two screen shots showing this grey overlay and without it.
Is anyone looking at integrating webview back into aosp browser under kitkat yet?
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Is anyone looking at integrating webview back into aosp browser under kitkat yet?
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We only can hope..
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I thought there would be millions of people complaining about broken text reflow in AOSP Browser and lack of uploading files through Browser, but mostly I fell like I'm the only one who cares. It's been two months now and Google still pretends there is no problem despite people staring that issue on their developer site every day. I stared it a well so I get few emails a day with people posting their complains about webview.
I file like Google is showing me finger and laughing.
Meanwhile Dolphin integrated their in-house WebKit, Jetpack, to their browser and you don't have to have Jetpack as a second app to Dolphin browser to enable it an text wrapping. With list update they fixed as well this grey semitransparent layer popping up on xda posts when you are logged on ( it was not coming up when I was logged out). So Dolphin is my default browser now.
Please somebody integrate old WebKit to Browser, plizzzz
Not sure if this helps?
The KitKat Chromium WebView doesn't reflow text. If you're concerned about text legibility please see the "NARROW_COLUMNS and SINGLE_COLUMN no longer supported" section in the <url=http://developer.android.com/guide/webapps/migrating.html#Columns>migration guide</url> where the suggested solution is to use text autosizing.
If you really want to bring this effect back then you'd need to do something like this:
1. Put all of your content in a <i><div id="contentRoot"> </div></i>
2. Implement onScaleChanged
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class MyWebViewClient extends WebViewClient {
boolean scaleChangedRunnablePending = false;
// Other code here
@Override
void onScaleChanged(final WebView webView, fload oldScale, float newScale) {
if (scaleChangedRunnablePending) return;
view.postDelayed(new Runnable() {
@Override
public void run() {
webView.evaluateJavaScript("recalculateWidth();", null);
scaleChangedRunnablePending = false;
}
}, 100);
}
}
// Don't forget to webView.setWebViewClient(new MyWebViewClient());
3. Use the following JavaScript
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function recalculateWidth() {
$("#contentRoot").width(window.innerWidth);
}
or, alternatively you could try modifying the viewport meta tag.
The above should perform the reflow with a slight delay (which is there to keep the number of unnecessary re-layouts down to a minimum).
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Natakranta said:
I thought there would be millions of people complaining about broken text reflow in AOSP Browser and lack of uploading files through Browser, but mostly I fell like I'm the only one who cares. It's been two months now and Google still pretends there is no problem despite people staring that issue on their developer site every day. I stared it a well so I get few emails a day with people posting their complains about webview.
I file like Google is showing me finger and laughing.
Meanwhile Dolphin integrated their in-house WebKit, Jetpack, to their browser and you don't have to have Jetpack as a second app to Dolphin browser to enable it an text wrapping. With list update they fixed as well this grey semitransparent layer popping up on xda posts when you are logged on ( it was not coming up when I was logged out). So Dolphin is my default browser now.
Please somebody integrate old WebKit to Browser, plizzzz
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Sadly, nobody appears to care about text reflow. AFAIK at the moment only two browsers support it: Opera and Dolphin Jetpack. Although I'm not sure how are you supposed to browse non-mobile websites without it pleasantly.
Obvious, this is method that needs to be integrated into website
This seems THE thing!
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/56054/
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As of Android 4 Google has changed the default Webrendering engine from the old AOSP one to the (bad) chromium engine. As a result my favorite Browser the stock AOSP isn't working properly anymore, here is a summery of the browsers I have tested and the problems I had with them:
Chrome: Slow, laggy and worst of all random font size changes within a website, no flash
AOSP Browser on 4.4: Double tap to zoom acting wierd, no textreflow, no browser history tab anymore, force closes, laggier then on Android 4.3 and no flash on 4.4
Dolphin Browser: Laggier compared to 4.3, pinch to zoom not working. No flash on 4.4.
Can you recommend any Browsers that work well with 4.4.
I use Firefox at the moment... Works really good
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I recommend you Next Browser !
Maxthon
Puffin
Boat
Others: Sleipnir / UC Browser
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I recommend you Next Browser !
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I'd second that. It's a really fast browser with some excellent features.
Next Browser FTW. Chrome is a mess.
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wurzelsepp3 said:
As of Android 4 Google has changed the default Webrendering engine from the old AOSP one to the (bad) chromium engine. As a result my favorite Browser the stock AOSP isn't working properly anymore, here is a summery of the browsers I have tested and the problems I had with them:
Chrome: Slow, laggy and worst of all random font size changes within a website, no flash
AOSP Browser on 4.4: Double tap to zoom acting wierd, no textreflow, no browser history tab anymore, force closes, laggier then on Android 4.3 and no flash on 4.4
Dolphin Browser: Laggier compared to 4.3, pinch to zoom not working. No flash on 4.4.
Can you recommend any Browsers that work well with 4.4.
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I'm using Opera atm because it has text flow.
Have you all even tried Chrome? On my N5 there is no lag whatsoever, I am really impressed with the speed. At first I was so like "oh no" but gave it a try and I think Google did it right.
NEXT Browser kills the top of the page where the address bar lies over it, that is a no go.
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Have you all even tried Chrome? On my N5 there is no lag whatsoever, I am really impressed with the speed. At first I was so like "oh no" but gave it a try and I think Google did it right.
NEXT Browser kills the top of the page where the address bar lies over it, that is a no go.
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exactly. just turn down the text size to 50% in settings and chrome looks like every other android browser but feels smoother and has no problems at all.
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Have you all even tried Chrome? On my N5 there is no lag whatsoever, I am really impressed with the speed. At first I was so like "oh no" but gave it a try and I think Google did it right.
NEXT Browser kills the top of the page where the address bar lies over it, that is a no go.
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I personally have Chrome Beta for a while and it's very fast too
Really really better than with my old Note II.
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Next Browser FTW. Chrome is a mess.
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I would avoid any goteam products. They are known for privacy breaches.
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I recommend you Next Browser !
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I don't get why people dont just use chrome. I have been using it on many devices and I find it to consistently be the smoothest and fastest and best looking browser.
I'm satisfied with Chrome Beta.
I have to admit, I've always used the AOSP broswer but Chrome has been performing pretty well so far on my Nexus 5. the only thing I really miss right now is Flash support.
I've used Naked on my N7 for a year or so, and works just as fast (faster) on my N5.
Chrome definitely isn't as fluid on the N5 as could be. Which is a real shame because it seems almost out of place, everything else on the N5 is silky smooth, then you open the browser, scroll around and pinch zoom. It feels a little choppy, like everything else is operating at 60fps but the browser is at 15-20fps is the best example I could give.
For those who say it's smooth, go browse the web on an iPhone 5 with Safari or the stock browser on an LG G2. I've used many phones and those two stand out to me as being the absolute benchmark in smoothness.
I think Dophin with Jetpack will be the best browser for the N5 once it becomes fully compatible.
Next browser is also awesome but like someone already stated, the top part of web pages are hidden an cannot be accessed. Probably not fully Kit Kat compatible yet.
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Have you all even tried Chrome? On my N5 there is no lag whatsoever, I am really impressed with the speed. At first I was so like "oh no" but gave it a try and I think Google did it right.
NEXT Browser kills the top of the page where the address bar lies over it, that is a no go.
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Primokorn said:
I personally have Chrome Beta for a while and it's very fast too
Really really better than with my old Note II.
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mitchdickson said:
I'm satisfied with Chrome Beta.
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I don't get why people dont just use chrome. I have been using it on many devices and I find it to consistently be the smoothest and fastest and best looking browser.
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I have to admit, I've always used the AOSP broswer but Chrome has been performing pretty well so far on my Nexus 5. the only thing I really miss right now is Flash support.
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I agree even myself.
I have absolutely no issues with chrome.
It runs silky smooth at 60fps on my phone like any other browser.
Personally I don't use it though because It does not support flash player which is useful.
Firefox
Dolphin (with Jetpack)
And Next Browser (which I never knew about before this thread)
Are the personal preferred browsers of my choice.
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Sleipnir is a very solid browser. It has the best tab management I have seen in a mobile browser.
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Dan37tz said:
Chrome definitely isn't as fluid on the N5 as could be. Which is a real shame because it seems almost out of place, everything else on the N5 is silky smooth, then you open the browser, scroll around and pinch zoom. It feels a little choppy, like everything else is operating at 60fps but the browser is at 15-20fps is the best example I could give.
For those who say it's smooth, go browse the web on an iPhone 5 with Safari or the stock browser on an LG G2. I've used many phones and those two stand out to me as being the absolute benchmark in smoothness.
I think Dophin with Jetpack will be the best browser for the N5 once it becomes fully compatible.
Next browser is also awesome but like someone already stated, the top part of web pages are hidden an cannot be accessed. Probably not fully Kit Kat compatible yet.
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errhmmm
http://youtu.be/LY-KuPhC0Y0
Chrome beta is usable..... The other one is crap and...in general any other browser is miles away from AOSP browser
Back on my gb, i used to hate stock browser, i used dolphin instead. But when I upgraded to ics I saw a post that said the androids default browser was good. So I gave it a chance, and it was good. I mean, veery good. Now with jellybean it still good, actually better. Yes, it only supports a number if tabs at the time, yes, it doesnt have cool add ons, and yes, its not the most beautiful thing in the world. But its fast at the start and at loading pages, its ultra smooth, its simple, its light, stable, its created for android, so its 100% safe, etc...
So... What do you think about this browser? I have been trying all the browsers and they are cool, but the fast of the default browser just gets me. Been using it for a year.
Let me hear your opinion.
Ps: Is this the wrong forum for this? Move it if you want!
i hate defaut browser too. i use more than one. especially dolphin. sometimes uc browser
But i just said I loved it, lol
I like stock android browser aswell, its much smoother than chrome or new opera (at least on my L5, haven't tested the other browsers cuz im lazy).
i normally would hate the default browser but because i'm having issues with other browsers on my Samsung XCover 2 lagging a lot i started using it and its actually pretty good for basic every-day functions.
Is this an issue or a feature? Since I started using the S6 I noticed that the scrolling down on big webpages feels stuck and laggy, it's not smooth as it was in the G2.
Have you noticed it too?
Facebook works kinda good for me...
But chrome work rly bad even after installing that support libary from the appstore
Anyway i have set up the default browser
And it works much much better then chrome
Alot faster and very easy/simple to use...
You should try it.
There's sometjing weird happening with the Java Script in Chrome I believe. IMO the stock Samsung Browser works way better.
changed to stock browser from chrome because of the lagg and poor loading times..stock s6 browser is way faster by a mile! and smooth as silk!!