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I thought I'd post my story so far in acquiring my zpad and update it as I go along.
And see if anyone else is interested in it.
January 2011
I wanted a tablet pc as soon as I saw my friend's Ipad, but thought that they would be too expensive, so I just put it out of my mind. Then while looking for a netbook for my wife, a friend of mine said he could get pc's at great prices from china. We agreed to get her a netbook through him and he told me he could also organise other cool tech like tablets, etc.
(We get ripped off really badly here in south africa, everyone is greedy here and they put up huge mark ups on tech. e.g. galaxy tab is R8000 here which is $1117 at the current exchange rate. Instead of the $650 that it currently is on amazon.com. Which is ridiculous!!!)
He is starting up an importing business from China to South Africa(where I live), I would be his first customer.
He showed me a few tablets, which either were underpowered or had a 3 hour max battery life or both. Eventually he showed me the Malata tablets, the windows one and the one that they later called the Zpad. The windows one sucked so I was interested in the Zpad. Specs looked good and the more I looked into it online the more I was keen. But it was still a lot of money.
I found out mid January that I had gotten funding for university this year, so I decided to get the Zpad. The order hadn't gone through yet for the netbook so I added the tablet (and other tech that we've wanted for a while, eg. 1GB external HDD & logitech G9x mouse, malata dock..) and paid and waited.
1st Feb 2011
Package finally arrived. When he saw the box my friend phoned me straight away in alarm. The box was tiny, way to small to house a netbook and a tablet and all the other stuff.
When he opened it, there were a few 1GB and 2GB USB drives in the box.
SHOCK AND HORROR!!!
He phoned around frantically trying to find out if he had been ripped off by his chinese supplier or not, as he had never bought from the guy before.
Eventually the guy replied, it was 20:00h in china, he says that the guy who dropped the packages off must have switched them around by mistake. He said he couldn't get hold of DHL to find out if the other guy had got the package already, or even to find out who the other guy was, as it was late there.
So now after waiting 3 weeks or so for my tablet I sit and wait, to find out where my tablet and my wife's netbook and everything else is. Are they with the would be flash drives owner? Will he give them back? Will the Chinese guy still send us new ones if the other guy doesn't give them back to him? Very stressed out.
Update:
2nd February 2011
Heard back from the supplier in China and from what I could understand (His English is a little broken, but can't blame the guy, I can't speak a worn of Mandarin) he says that they have had this problem in the past and how it works is they use a 3rd pary company to take their packages to DHL and then DHL send it, so the 3rd party guys must have made the mistake. This happened before and they stopped using that company as a result, but now it has happened again.
He says it shouldn't be to difficult to get hold of the stuff and get it sent to us, but it will take a while.
I really hope so. I'm still worried that some guy is playing on my Zpad or have taken the factory screen cover off (which I was planning to keep on, if it came with one), or even worse has sold it...
So no concrete progress, but things are looking up.
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3rd February 2011
It's Chinese newyear now. So I wasn't expecting much progress today, and didn't get any. But the Chinese supplier told us he hasn't gotten the status of the parcel yet, but we should hold on to the wrong parcel we received and he will chase them up and try to get them exchanged.
Update:
4th February 2011
The supplier said that DHL are contacting the person who received our parcel and he will let us know the outcome.
Update:
18th March 2011
So, we still haven't heard from DHL, and our chinese contact hasn't contacted us since my last post. He is also no longer on the trading sites like alibaba, etc. So we think we have been swindled.
My friend here is going over to china in a few months, so he will probably see if he can find this guys, using private investigators and press charges against him (and maybe a fist or two).
My friend did take responsibility though, saying that it was his fault and he should have tested out his contact first.
He has found a more reliable contact and is waiting for a sale to go through, and then will try order it again, out of his pocket.
But I don't know if I still want the Zpad, with shipping, 3G and GPS, the tablet cost about R6500 here, which converted is about $900. Which is really expensive, but the cheapest I can get it at. I can get the Gtablet for R4313 ($600), buying through a local online business who buy from amazon.
But I don't know, there are many new tablets coming out now, so there is no longer the benefit of getting the only tegra 2 tablet, and getting use out of it before the big boys arrive. So I think I might as well look around, now that the Zpad is no longer on it's way.
I'm thinking about getting the Xoom WIFI instead when it comes out. My dad is going to Italy soon, and hopefully it will have released in Europe by then, so he can pick one up for me at a comparable price to the US $600. When it finally gets here it will be ridiculously expensive, I estimate the same price that I paid for the Zpad,($900). So if the Xoom is anything less than 650 Euros, Then I have saved money, buying a better tablet.
Then when my friend has managed to make some money back, he can refund me, rather than ordering me another one, and I will have money left over for accessories.
So, right now it is just a wait to see when the Xoom Wifi comes out in Europe, how much it will be, and if it releases before my dad gets there; sometime in May.
Yep, more waiting, but I'm happy to wait again, I feel I am getting a better deal now, and I feel more in control.
Update March 20th:
I have placed my order to get the Xoom Wifi with a local company, they will get it from the US as soon as it releases, so it will ship on the 28th/29th and I should get it in at most a week from then.
Update April 3rd:
My Xoom came yesterday, and WOW!!! It is amazing, it is an awesome resolution screen, great viewing angles, incredibly responsive, amazing battery life, has honeycomb.
The Zpad not coming was a blessing in disguise. I will still try get my money back for the Zpad from my friend to cover the cost of the Xoom, though.
Really , Really glad that I didn't get a Zpad in hindsight. I know that's a bit cheeky to say in the Gtab forum, but after waiting this long, I would want it to be perfect, and well neither tablet is perfect, but the Xoom is a lot closer.
So, this will be one of my last posts on the Gtab forum, I'll be living in the Xoom on from now.
Thanks so much for reading my story everyone.
I will update if this thread is still around and I get my money back from my friend, but otherwise that's it.
Cheers
wow, that really sucks.
I hope all works out and the Chinese supplier fixes his mistake and sends you your order.
Thats really bad. I think it's at the same level as my story at ebay... Sad.
Seems getting a zPad is just not as easy as we thought.
Ya, it is sad. But I'm optimistic. It might be a DHL mistake too, in which case they will have to fork out of it doesn't sort its self out.
Good luck getting it sorted out. I had ordered a low end DSLR Camera for my daughter for Christmas. It made it to within 15 miles of my house and then vanished at the FEDEX facility. By that point, everywhere was sold out of low end DSLR Camera, the original seller, Wal-Mart, was of no help other than sorry and refund my payment and I was left scrambling and finally had to fork over much more $$$ in order to not disappoint on Christmas morning.
The fact that you ended up with a package gives me hope. Perhaps it was just an address switch-a-roo and the other party will confess especially if he/she is contacted. The tough part is the start of the Chinese New Years which will bugger up all shipping from there for a month. Best of luck. The waiting is the hardest part.
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Good luck getting it sorted out. I had ordered a low end DSLR Camera for my daughter for Christmas. It made it to within 15 miles of my house and then vanished at the FEDEX facility. By that point, everywhere was sold out of low end DSLR Camera, the original seller, Wal-Mart, was of no help other than sorry and refund my payment and I was left scrambling and finally had to fork over much more $$$ in order to not disappoint on Christmas morning.
The fact that you ended up with a package gives me hope. Perhaps it was just an address switch-a-roo and the other party will confess especially if he/she is contacted. The tough part is the start of the Chinese New Years which will bugger up all shipping from there for a month. Best of luck. The waiting is the hardest part.
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It's common for a lot of packages to go "missing" around Christmas time from UPS/FedEx and other carriers. I have had a few friends who have worked for FedEx and the stories they would tell convinced me to never order anything around Christmas time for delivery. At least you were able to get your money back
That's what I am hoping too. To track down whoever was supposed to get the one we got and ask them what they got instead, because they have to sign for it, so there will be a record of them receiving something... So we just have to find out if it was our stuff or not. Either way I'm sure they will be forced to return it...
We'll see what tomorrow brings.
Thanks for the moral support.
Did the Chinese supplier give your friend a tracking number? Does it match the DHL package you received? If it doesn't, then DHL is the one who messed up.
I hope everything turns out ok for you. I hate to hear stories like these. But I'm also an optimistic guy and I also give people the benefit of the doubt.
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Did the Chinese supplier give your friend a tracking number? Does it match the DHL package you received?
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Ya he did give us the tracking number and we tracked it all the way from hongkong to my friends doorstep. The mix up may have been when the agents fetched the package from him.
Have updated the original post with the latest news.
Have updated the original post with the latest news.
Updated again:
18 March 2011
If you are paying with Paypal or Credit card, get it refunded by them ...
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If you are paying with Paypal or Credit card, get it refunded by them ...
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We transfered to him in china.
And we can't get hold of him to ask for refund.
From all accounts the Xoom is a better tablet.
I have a ZPad and am extremly happy with it and the community work on it (pershot et al).
If I was I am buying to day it would be a Xoom and in a months time perhaps an asus based perhaps 6moths after that what ever Malata has or who every has the fastest at the time.
One thing that seems to stand out about the ZPad is that as Malata seem to manufactuer for others and the ZPad is almost their andriod reference platform*, there is an openess that one may not get from Motorola.
*from Dmesg "Machine:NVIDA Harmony Development System"
Very few HW things in the IT industry stay the best for long, even more so with emerging product lines just look at how netbooks evolved from low end devices to dual core atoms and 6hrsplus batt life in less than 6 months.
That is how I feel too.
The xoom is currently the best, and that's what I'm paying for. It isn't as open as Zpad, but it works without as much tweaking (micro SD and Host USB aside). And to be honest, that's what I really want, something stable that Just works.
I have placed my order to get the Xoom Wifi with a local company, they will get it from the US as soon as it releases, so it will ship on the 28th/29th and I should get it in at most a week from then.
Very Excited!!!
Will keep you posted. Hopefully this is where the Drama will end.
I have update the OP(original post) with the conclusion to my story.
I'm still a few hundred dollars worth out of pocket but over the moon about the outcome regardless.
Cheers
I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
Those were the debates I had in my head when I was deciding whether to purchase the woot deal or not. You know what it came down to for me. The cheapest gtab with 16gb internal will be $499. $499-274.99=$224. That's practically 2 Gtabs for the price of one Samsung Galaxy Tab. Plus I will NEVER trust Samsung again when it comes to software. They have screwed me enough times and still are the slowest Android manufacturer at updating software.
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I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
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cool story
I no have any problem with the viewing angles. For me it is ok. And don't expect cheaper tablets unless the unknown brands... The Gtablet is one of the most versatile tablets, you can flash freely almost anything without brick it.
And of course always is gonna be a better deal around the corner, if you wait, but it can keep you waiting for life. I rather prefer live the present.
Just my 0.02 cents
Angles do not bother me at all. In fact, I was traveling this week and the guy next to me kept trying to see what I was doing and I was glad to know that he probably was having trouble.
I have not doubt somebody will figure out how to get Honeycomb on this thing, but right now, I am happy with it as it is with Vegan. My plan is to keep this for a year while HC gets its bugs worked out and the technology drops in price. Then I will buy a new one and give this to my kids who use it over 50% of the time anyways...
juanzr1 said:
I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
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*Honks the Nobody Cares Horn* *HONK!*
I'm about to return my 2nd gtab.
I picked up my first Viewsonic gTab from Tiger Direct in Canada. The battery wouldn't charge right out of the box. I ordered another one and sent the first one back. The second randomly loses power while on battery. I have to tap it in the right spot to get it back up again.
I think the build quality is suspect on these units. I'm going to wait for Xoom/Asus Transformer/Samsung...I have to be patient...I don't want to get sucked in to the iDarkside available in stores now.
If every device worked "out of the box" sites like XDA would not be around. XDA is here to help improve the out of box experience. if you don't do that what's the point of coming here?
donatom3 said:
Those were the debates I had in my head when I was deciding whether to purchase the woot deal or not. You know what it came down to for me. The cheapest gtab with 16gb internal will be $499. $499-274.99=$224. That's practically 2 Gtabs for the price of one Samsung Galaxy Tab. Plus I will NEVER trust Samsung again when it comes to software. They have screwed me enough times and still are the slowest Android manufacturer at updating software.
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And that's the same reason I ordered 2. And, if I knew then what I know now, I would have purchased the OP's for a total of 3.
Special thanks to the everyone working on the gTablet. I hope to pay them back somehow.
juanzr1 said:
I just canceled my order that I placed on woot.com because all this talk about the viewing angles and no market or honeycomb and I really like to have my devices ready fresh out the box so im just gunna wait for the Samsung 10.1 coming in june with its gorgeous display and slim design .I was having that feeling of buyers remorse after I ordered the gtablet lol
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if you think buying a samsung product will get you a great out of the box experience you are sadly mistaken. the samsung vibrant was pretty much useless and took forever to get the froyi update necessary to make it run at even reasonable speed. cannot compare apples and oranges - this is a 285 dollar tablet
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I picked up my first Viewsonic gTab from Tiger Direct in Canada. The battery wouldn't charge right out of the box. I ordered another one and sent the first one back. The second randomly loses power while on battery. I have to tap it in the right spot to get it back up again.
I think the build quality is suspect on these units. I'm going to wait for Xoom/Asus Transformer/Samsung...I have to be patient...I don't want to get sucked in to the iDarkside available in stores now.
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Yea and I read in the thread somewhere that viewsonic didn't even make the device or something like that. Altough I know it is a great device for the price, I just don't want to settle for less when there's better tablets coming out in a couple of months
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Angles do not bother me at all. In fact, I was traveling this week and the guy next to me kept trying to see what I was doing and I was glad to know that he probably was having trouble.
I have not doubt somebody will figure out how to get Honeycomb on this thing, but right now, I am happy with it as it is with Vegan. My plan is to keep this for a year while HC gets its bugs worked out and the technology drops in price. Then I will buy a new one and give this to my kids who use it over 50% of the time anyways...
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Used the screen to your advantage huh lol nice,and yea I get you by christmas the xoom will probably be around 400$ and also lg tablets toshiba tablets and the rest of the bunch
For the price, I'll take the drawbacks. I just need to do a bit of reading to figure out how to tweak it once it arrives. Hopefully some of my experience with the DX will come in handy.
Samsung makes decent hardware (though my sig might suggest otherwise) but their software sucks. Go look at how stressed out the CM guys are trying to get CM on the SGS.
At $280 the gTab is in the toy category. If I paid $400+ I would expect the thing to work flawlessly.
To each his own really, for me the excitement around the gTab is that it is nearly 100% unlocked so tinkering with the thing will be super easy.
Even some of the complaints people have with the device with the newest patches are kids play compared to some of the crap I had to deal with on my SGS in order to make it work the way I wanted.
That ran through my head for about 5 seconds. Then I remembered that I have a Vibrant.
The hardware's fantastic, but the software it shipped with was garbage, and samsung clearly doesn't give a crap about showing the modders any love with releasing source. Don't get me wrong, I love my phone, but it's the combo of Samsung hardware and Team Whiskey software that makes it good.
Personally, I'm avoiding giving Samsung any more money (Android-wise) unless they start acting more like HTC (who mostly does well, I think) or something.
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And that's the same reason I ordered 2. And, if I knew then what I know now, I would have purchased the OP's for a total of 3.
Special thanks to the everyone working on the gTablet. I hope to pay them back somehow.
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+1 bazillion.
Really if you have a personal preference like this, why even come on to a GTab forum and post something that you know will possibly start a flame war.
If you did not want to buy it because of what you hear great... for you!
Why do I care?
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Lol... I was thinking the same thing.
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donatom3 said:
Those were the debates I had in my head when I was deciding whether to purchase the woot deal or not. You know what it came down to for me. The cheapest gtab with 16gb internal will be $499. $499-274.99=$224. That's practically 2 Gtabs for the price of one Samsung Galaxy Tab. Plus I will NEVER trust Samsung again when it comes to software. They have screwed me enough times and still are the slowest Android manufacturer at updating software.
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Man.....I know what you mean. I own an epic 4g (great phone) and they just now, finally released the Froyo update for it. Thank god for these forums.
Even with Buyers remorse why would you not sell the tablet for more on ebay or craiglist to make some extra cash???
I got this at Staples.ca, Asus now bundles the Tf and dock in one box, and sell it $50 cheaper ($499 for 16GB with dock). This is regular price, not a promotion. I am pissed!!
Asus - Is this how you reward your loyal early adopter customers? I feel that we (those that bought the dock and Tf together earlier) should get a $50 refund!!!
I don't agree that you should receive a $50 refund because, as you said, you chose to be an early adopter thereby wanting a device and its accompanying accessories right off the bat and you pay a premium for that. Unfortunately we weren't able to see the future and this bundle.
That said I still think you should contact Asus and ask them to send you a refund check, the worst they can do is say no. Let them know you have receipts/invoices to prove the cost of your device.
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I'd like $50 back too! Buy me a microsd card..
No, $50 is not worth my time to be put on hold talking to CSRs. My point is, it shows the kind of company Asus is.
When Apple decided to give out free iPhone cases, first thing they made sure was announcing how you can get a refund if you bought one already.
I shouldn't even have to ask for my $50. I will return the favor to Asus by never buy any of their products, because the post-sale happiness of their customers is obviously not important.
By the way, I won't be surprised if they never fix the battery drain of the dock either. if it's anything like the way they pump out netbooks, they'll probably discontine the current Tf in 2 months (for Tf2 or something).
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No, $50 is not worth my time to be put on hold talking to CSRs. My point is, it shows the kind of company Asus is.
When Apple decided to give out free iPhone cases, first thing they made sure was announcing how you can get a refund if you bought one already.
I shouldn't even have to ask for my $50. I will return the favor to Asus by never buy any of their products, because the post-sale happiness of their customers is obviously not important.
By the way, I won't be surprised if they never fix the battery drain of the dock either. if it's anything like the way they pump out netbooks, they'll probably discontine the current Tf in 2 months (for Tf2 or something).
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wow negative nancy.
You seem to want everything handed to you. That's not how companies work you know. Apple did so only because they're apple and can afford it, not to mention not doing so would seriously jeopardize their name. More of an exception to the rule. Battery drain is not nearly as serious as the Iphone Grip-o-death.
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bighuta said:
wow negative nancy.
You seem to want everything handed to you. That's not how companies work you know. Apple did so only because they're apple and can afford it, not to mention not doing so would seriously jeopardize their name. More of an exception to the rul y e. Battery drain is not nearly as serious as the Iphone Grip-o-death.
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This is exactly my point. Apple is Apple, and Asus is..., well just Asus. That's why my future money (and many other people's) goes to one and not the other.
Yes, my post was negative. Didn't I already said I was pissed! I just bought the damn thing 16 days ago.
Early adopters always pay dearly. It's the cost of first bragging rights. Remember all those suckers who paid $5000 for a 40-inch plasma TV?
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This is exactly my point. Apple is Apple, and Asus is..., well just Asus. That's why my future money (and many other people's) goes to one and not the other.
Yes, my post was negative. Didn't I already said I was pissed! I just bought the damn thing 16 days ago.
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Dont let the door hit you on the way out.
ikeny said:
No, $50 is not worth my time to be put on hold talking to CSRs. My point is, it shows the kind of company Asus is.
When Apple decided to give out free iPhone cases, first thing they made sure was announcing how you can get a refund if you bought one already.
I shouldn't even have to ask for my $50. I will return the favor to Asus by never buy any of their products, because the post-sale happiness of their customers is obviously not important.
By the way, I won't be surprised if they never fix the battery drain of the dock either. if it's anything like the way they pump out netbooks, they'll probably discontine the current Tf in 2 months (for Tf2 or something).
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Wow, this has nothing to do with anything. Apple avoided a huge issue with it's antenna problem. There's no such thing with the TF.
My dock works just fine. Someone is drinking the kool-aide.
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Dont let the door hit you on the way out.
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I wish it was that simple, just walk out the door. I am still stuck with this Tf which will only remind me everyday how I got ripped off.
By the way, you are so orginial. Welcome to the forum. Asus sucks, but this forum rocks!
ikeny said:
I wish it was that simple, just walk out the door. I am still stuck with this Tf which will only remind me everyday how I got ripped off.
By the way, you are so orginial. Welcome to the forum. Asus sucks, but this forum rocks!
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Well, you can ask for this thread to be closed now.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Wow, you really think the asus marketing machine is really going to give you $50 back? Do we have any proof that you bought both items at the same time?
You saw the prices at the time and chose to pay them. /thread
Yes, there is something called a receipt, and it lists the items, date and price that you paid for.
No, I don't expect anything from Asus anymore.
Sure, mod can close this thread, enough ranting from me now.
(By the way, if you don't like this thread, by not replying, it will quickly drift the 2nd page, 3rd, 4th, and you'll never see iy agin)
ikeny said:
I wish it was that simple, just walk out the door. I am still stuck with this Tf which will only remind me everyday how I got ripped off.
By the way, you are so orginial. Welcome to the forum. Asus sucks, but this forum rocks!
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Not nu this is my second account. Asus is great and getting better. You said your future money was going to Apple so, by all means.
I really look to Acer and Asus to be inovative leaders in a mobile interactive computing world to come. Enjoy your "new" notifications bar.
Yeah, the other posters are right.
There are many issues on which to pick a bone with Asus, this is not one of them. You saw the prices and you got the items early.
It's a known fact that early adopting will cost you. Everything becomes cheaper. Blu-Ray drives were $300.00 when they first came out. Half a year ago I saw an ad for a Samsung CD/DVD/Blu-Ray combo drive for $50.00.
Go Buy Your iPad, please.
ikeny said:
I wish it was that simple, just walk out the door. I am still stuck with this Tf which will only remind me everyday how I got ripped off.
By the way, you are so orginial. Welcome to the forum. Asus sucks, but this forum rocks!
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You got ripped off because you "lost" $50? Wow.
Please go to Apple, I heard they're looking for some more zombies...er...."owners".
In regards to Apple offering a free case;
1) it was to resolve a glaring issue in that the phone partially lost it's capabilities of being a phone by dropping calls with the Antenna issue. Although the transformer has had it's own issues they have been dealt with in the same manner as Apple and many other large electronics manufactures and that it is to resolve the issues in house and release newer and newer batches that have the kinks worked out.
2) Those cases probably probably cost Apple, maybe, a few bucks to make. The loss wasn't that great and, although offered to the entire customer base, not every iPhone owner claimed one. So the out of pocket expense, although admittedly large, wasn't so much that Apple couldn't afford to resolve it. If Asus refunded $50 to every TF owner they would be losing money big time as the TF is already barely sold above cost because they figured the dock would bring the money.
Finally, please close this thread. The information is irrelevant and does nothing to add to the TF general forum. And this is going off-topic way to fast.
I'm not pissed by this. I was surprised when I was shopping for the damn Transformer as I could not find a bundle. But, I love them dearly and was a good $550.
I would like to own the dock, but will never buy it for more than $99, based on the bundle's price. Like others said, the bundle wasn't available when I snagged the TF either.
If everyone refrains from buying one for any more than $99, maybe we'll see a price drop sooner than later.
I have had a few asus devices. All have been stellar, only problem was my refurbished EEE 901 came with bad charger and battery. Called asus to replacement, I had to complain to get shipping waived, but got a brand new battery and charger in less than a week. I have to say that refurbished 901 is still in use today 2 years later and may have been the best $169 I ever spent.
All that said, I am disappointed in the TF. There I said it. For me the problem with the dock battery drain plus poor BMS making it so you can't leave it plugged in.
If I can't leave it at my desk plugged how can you call it a "dock"
I have to charge dock and tablet separately, and then leave them so until I want/need the keyboard or sacrifice 4-5% hr drain while off or in sleep. BTW I sent email to asus complaining about dock battery draining 2 weeks ago and have not received a response....
Edit:For $399 Tablet is way solid. But yeah the dock has issues....clearly not worth >$50 in my mind yet
You guys do realize that you only paid $400 for a device that Asus could have easily charged you 500 600 or even 700 for...
Stop *****ing and get a grip already.
If you're not happy go buy xoom, galaxy or apple product. no body is forcing you to buy or keep your tf.
The more you come here and cry the more you just show how incompetent you are. Take control of your life and fix the things you don't like or deal with them. Don't come to the internet and cry like a bunch of 4 year olds.
Dis bundle has been out in other parts of world the uk and singpore been had these
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shall i wait for quad core transformer 2 or shall i just get the current 1 now..?
There's always something better "just around the corner" when it comes to technology. You really have to decide for yourself when the time is right and be able to live with your decision until you can upgrade again.
Well, waiting might be a good idea.
Of course I opted to get it a month ago, so i didn't have the patience.
It's totally up to you, I took the plunge because amazon was giving 20% off on the TF 32 GB. Ended up paying less for the 32GB then you would pay for the 16GB. If you constantly wait for the latest and greatest to be released you will be waiting for a long time.
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It's totally up to you, I took the plunge because amazon was giving 20% off on the TF 32 GB. Ended up paying less for the 32GB then you would pay for the 16GB. If you constantly wait for the latest and greatest to be released you will be waiting for a long time.
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Haha, I have you beat there. Ended up paying a total of $380 for both the TF and the keyboard dock brand new.
Anyway, to the op, you should wait for the next gen, which should come out a few months after tegra 2 is released, which is the end of this year. Just just wait about 7 months or so and you will see the TF 2 in the market. And if you're patient, wait another 7 or 8 months and I'm sure they'll have TF 3 out.
If you're really really patient and want the latest and greatest, you should wait it out until they come out with paper thin tablets that have 3-D screen. Heck, just wait a little longer after that and I'm sure they'll have something like neural control interface where you can control your tablet with your mind.
I hope you realize I've been sarcastic.
The current TF is a very capable device already. I've used half a dozen different ones, and it is my opinion that the TF is by far the best option right now.
Tegra 3 won't be released until at least November. And it will take at the very least 4 months or so for computer companies like asus to fit it in with their design. And it will take them a few more months to get it to the US market. You're looking at waiting until mid next year before you can get your hands on one. And let's not forget that it will probably be priced a little higher this time now that the Asus TF has got everyone's attention.
To wait or not is up to you. Just keep in mind the real amount of time you'll have to wait for the next gen TF. And as soon as the TF 2 comes out, they'll be talking about the TF 3. Are you going to wait for that, too?
The only reason I would suggest waiting is that perhaps the next-gen TF will be rootable, whereas no one has released a root method for current production. I was going to replace my destroyed TF and dock, but I figured that if I couldn't root, why be in a rush?
That logic does make much sense. The quad core will no more likely to be rootable than the current one. The reverse might actually be more true since the current ones has been out for a while and the devs has had their hands on them.
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That logic does make much sense. The quad core will no more likely to be rootable than the current one. The reverse might actually be more true since the current ones has been out for a while and the devs has had their hands on them.
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My thinking is that a new device might not be subject to whatever agreement or policy is in place to keep the SBK from being released. If it wasn't for that issue, this would be a moot discussion.
The first sbk was never meant to be released. I don't think anyone knows how rayman and friends manage to get a hold f it.
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https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
Wow! If I had the cash, I would be all over that! The only problem is the 5mp camera :/
I wonder if google is getting back into selling unlocked phones, I certainly hope so
Its not really that betterer than the mytouch and its laggy as hell and no keyyboard
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Meh, prices have been dropping like rocks for the GNex
That's the problem with android phones, there's no residual value.
It's not worth it to buy the flagship phone this early. As a general rule of thumb, I only buy android phones that are a year or older. Or phones that are known to have bad resale values. All 4 of my past android phones I haven't paid more than $180 for new And they aren't exactly low end either
It is possible to find great deals on recent phones as well. You just have to look hard enough.
Includes Cliq $150>>$180 4 months later
3G Slide $180>>$215 6 months later
G2 $180>>$255 8 months later (although I think I undersold this one)
4G Slide $180>> not sold yet
Best part is, the deal I get is so great, that I can sell the phone back about 8-12 months later, and still make money off it to buy a new phone.
Great way to recycle money for phones. Been using the same $200 I started with for the past 3 years. And you get fresh phones all the time Ever since my old Nokia 5800 from 2009
Apple products however retain their value so much better, so they're much easier to flip when you're done with them
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Meh, prices have been dropping like rocks for the GNex
That's the problem with android phones, there's no residual value.
It's not worth it to buy the flagship phone this early. As a general rule of thumb, I only buy android phones that are a year or older. Or phones that are known to have bad resale values. All 4 of my past android phones I haven't paid more than $180 for new And they aren't exactly low end either
It is possible to find great deals on recent phones as well. You just have to look hard enough.
Includes Cliq $150>>$180 4 months later
3G Slide $180>>$215 6 months later
G2 $180>>$255 8 months later (although I think I undersold this one)
4G Slide $180>> not sold yet
Best part is, the deal I get is so great, that I can sell the phone back about 8-12 months later, and still make money off it to buy a new phone.
Great way to recycle money for phones. Been using the same $200 I started with for the past 3 years. And you get fresh phones all the time Ever since my old Nokia 5800 from 2009
Apple products however retain their value so much better, so they're much easier to flip when you're done with them
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I haven't paid for an Android phone, yet. I bought my first smartphone, a T-Mobile DASH, on ebay for $50. I "jailbroke" it and had it running Win6.5 really well. Then, my ex gave me his brand new Moto Cliq (he preferred Blackberry). I kept it about a year, then it started messing up so T-Mobile traded it for a new white MyTouch 3G Slide. I kept it about a year, then decided I wanted the new MyTouch 4G Slide. I talked T-Mobile into giving me one for $50 (have been a good customer for over 8 years). Then I sold the MT3GS on ebay for $165. So, I'm happy with how my phones have been. I would love to get the GNex, but I'll wait.
Depends on what you want out of it. To some, money is immaterial.
I have quite the depth of knowledge to this phone specifically, now, and have for some time.
If i'd waited until now to get it, then i'd just be starting and playing catch up. By purchasing one of these within a few days of launch (truthfully, I had to come back the day after because the store didn't have them in yet) I was able to start learning about it a long time ago.
Someone has to break new ground, and that means picking one up around launch time. For all you that come in late to the game and have roms and how-to's, methods of doing this and that - it has to come from somewhere, and doesn't make itself.
If you want to look at just the $ part of it, and ignore anything else, fine - but don't forget what you get for that investment or the inherent value in being an early adopter.
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Depends on what you want out of it. To some, money is immaterial.
I have quite the depth of knowledge to this phone specifically, now, and have for some time.
If i'd waited until now to get it, then i'd just be starting and playing catch up. By purchasing one of these within a few days of launch (truthfully, I had to come back the day after because the store didn't have them in yet) I was able to start learning about it a long time ago.
Someone has to break new ground, and that means picking one up around launch time. For all you that come in late to the game and have roms and how-to's, methods of doing this and that - it has to come from somewhere, and doesn't make itself.
If you want to look at just the $ part of it, and ignore anything else, fine - but don't forget what you get for that investment or the inherent value in being an early adopter.
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It's not really about the money. I just love the model that I can upgrade my hardware continually without having to invest more $$$
We're all broke here, as you may already know
gtmaster303 said:
It's not really about the money. I just love the model that I can upgrade my hardware continually without having to invest more $$$
We're all broke here, as you may already know
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Amen to that
Blue6IX said:
Depends on what you want out of it. To some, money is immaterial.
I have quite the depth of knowledge to this phone specifically, now, and have for some time.
If i'd waited until now to get it, then i'd just be starting and playing catch up. By purchasing one of these within a few days of launch (truthfully, I had to come back the day after because the store didn't have them in yet) I was able to start learning about it a long time ago.
Someone has to break new ground, and that means picking one up around launch time. For all you that come in late to the game and have roms and how-to's, methods of doing this and that - it has to come from somewhere, and doesn't make itself.
If you want to look at just the $ part of it, and ignore anything else, fine - but don't forget what you get for that investment or the inherent value in being an early adopter.
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I think it all depends on your perspective. As somebody who makes a hobby out of learning a phone from the inside out, its an investment that is worth the price of early adoption.
For those who do not intend to study their phones, for whatever reasons, and whom are not likely to ever spend time developing, its better to wait to see if a particular phone will mature in development before buying it. For a user, the real value of a phone lies in its usability, making a phone with ample development much more valuable.
So for a user, a well developed phone comes at a discounted price but is far more valuable than its less developed successors.
P.S. Some might argue that the time you save waiting for cm9 to compile on a shiny new quadcore is well worth the cost of no more than 2 doubleshots!
Talk about prices dropping, ever since HTC announced they're not making keyboard phones anymore, G2 prices have been falling to no end.
You can get one in good condition for <$150 on ebay right now That's one of the biggest drops I've ever seen on a phone. I only sold mine 2 months ago for $255, granted it was in mint condition.
I'm so glad I dumped the phone when it still had value. I knew this would happen. hehe, maybe I might even buy one back, now that its lost all of it value
But definitely keyboard phones are getting rare. Diehard fans should start stockpiling now