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When flashes go wrong things can get bad.with the vibrant I just odined to stock...through download load. Will we get something similiar for the greatest smartphone ever LG g2x
Luthien1 said:
When flashes go wrong things can get bad.with the vibrant I just odined to stock...through download load. Will we get something similiar for the greatest smartphone ever LG g2x
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NV Flash
its not the same. odin was a backup in case you couldnt even get into recovery, so there was download mode as a failsafe....which was through odin.. there has to be something like this available... anyone know.. or are we sol if we mess up bad
Im wondering this as well...my friend flashed a rom on the G2x and the wifi is broken. Rom manager won't flash into recovery. Used my Sim card which has internet but the phone won't recognize the internet. Tried the power+ volume buttons on boot up but nothing happens. Any idea on how to get back to stock? Rom is eagle's blood
You would need to flash CWM through NVflash
ROM manager will not flash CWM, it looks like it did but is actually a fake flash. That's why you need to do it through nv flash.
Sent From My G2x EB 1.07
Yes. You flash back to stock with the KDZ file and the KD flasher program.
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downloaded nvflash and drivers, have usb debug mode on but when i do anything on nvflash it says no usb connected?
nvm got everything done thanks a lot!
I believe that there's the program used to flash KDZ files, I guess that could restore EVERYTHING back to stock.
moshe22 said:
You would need to flash CWM through NVflash
ROM manager will not flash CWM, it looks like it did but is actually a fake flash. That's why you need to do it through nv flash.
Sent From My G2x EB 1.07
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Koush and Cyanogen said ROM Manager is not doing a fake flash. After flashing the rom you have to immediately boot into recovery using rom manager. It them flashes the new recovery right after boot. The recovery partition is not available when the phone is in normal mode. If you don't do an immediate boot into recovery through ROM Manager then the recovery is not properly flashed. If you have updated to GB then the first time you must do the NVFlash method as there is no way to root the phone any other way at this time.
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Koush and Cyanogen said ROM Manager is not doing a fake flash. After flashing the rom you have to immediately boot into recovery using rom manager. It them flashes the new recovery right after boot. The recovery partition is not available when the phone is in normal mode. If you don't do an immediate boot into recovery through ROM Manager then the recovery is not properly flashed. If you have updated to GB then the first time you must do the NVFlash method as there is no way to root the phone any other way at this time.
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It is fake in the sense that no matter what you do it isn't on the actual recovery partition and if the phone goes to hell in a handbasket then you have to flash one through NVFLASH anyways. Koush just happens to have a vested interest in people using Rom Manager.
Yes, STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ROM MANAGER. Seriously, you're just asking for trouble.
I use rom manager all the time. It works great for downloading and flashing roms on the fly... but just NVFlash first.
NVFlash takes like 3.5 seconds and your done. Nandroid backup and your good.
Then either download Rom manager or manually download and copy it to your SD card. Very very simple. Easiest phone ever to get going. You don't even need to worry about rooting first.
You'll gain root after flashing s custom rom. MIUI is my choice right now. CM7 is having problems after they merged the LG GB source.
MIUI 8.19 is found in the rom forums. Weapon is also nice but lacks some extras I'm used to.
LG G2x - 2.3.5 MIUI Love
Asus TF - Custom 3.2
I can't figure out for the life of me how to flash my G2X back to stock using the stock firmware. Can you please help me figure out what to put into NVFlash to get the stock rom back onto this phone. Please don't tell me to search, I've been doing that all day. I have the LG Firmware file. I was stupid and put that pre-release gingerbread on it, but thats worse than what came with it.
To flash the phone back to its original recovery you do this
Restore LG G2x Stock Recovery
Flash Stock recovery only when you want to send your phone in to T-Mobile. Otherwise do not flash Stock recovery. Stay on ClockworkMod Recovery.
Remove the battery.
Goto NvFlash directory and Double Click "OneClickRecoveryFlasher.exe".
Make sure the USB cable is unplugged from your phone.
Hold Volume Up and Volume Down at the same time keeping them held down. (Keep them held until you see the "S/W Upgrade" screen on your phone after you complete step7!).
Plug in the USB cable to your phone.
Click the "Flash Stock" button.
You should see it send a bunch of files to the device and the phone screen should say "S/W Upgrade - Please wait while upgrading...". Once the files are sent and the program is finished running in the command window, you can just pull the USB cord while it still says "S/W Upgrade - Please wait while upgrading...".
Put the battery back and you are done.
Now if its the ROM that your having issues with then just flash another ROM to it man
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I think doing the 1st step gives you back everything to its oringal state. NOt sure though.
I already did flash the recovery I want to flash the original shipped rom to it and I can't figure it out, obviously it can be done, and well I feel like quite the disgrace since i used to work for google in mountain view lol
Oohhhh the ROM
Well lets see isn't this it?
The only thing though is that its rooted.
I'll keep tryna check for you though
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048274
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I can't figure out for the life of me how to flash my G2X back to stock using the stock firmware. Can you please help me figure out what to put into NVFlash to get the stock rom back onto this phone. Please don't tell me to search, I've been doing that all day. I have the LG Firmware file. I was stupid and put that pre-release gingerbread on it, but thats worse than what came with it.
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First you'll want to use the Nandroid file (linked already in post #4) to return to stock rom. Then you'll want to use NVflash to get back to stock recovery. Then use SuperOneClick to unroot. That's the only way to get unrooted stock.
aczarney said:
First you'll want to use the Nandroid file (linked already in post #4) to return to stock rom. Then you'll want to use NVflash to get back to stock recovery. Then use SuperOneClick to unroot. That's the only way to get unrooted stock.
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This is correct. I've done it a handful of times this way. And if you have a question, post in Q&A. This is the wrong place for this.
So I still for the life of me can't figure out how to flash the stock rom LG V10F rom on this thing.
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So I still for the life of me can't figure out how to flash the stock rom LG V10F rom on this thing.
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Download the file in this thread. Extract the contents to your SD Card. Boot into Clockwork Recovery. Restore a backup. Select the folder where you extracted said file. Fix permissions. Reboot. Enjoy stock rom.
Doesn't work, it says MD5 Checksum mismatch. I want to flash the stock LG Flash File. The AP and CP bin files.
iv acidently flashed stock p999 rom via nvflash to a p990 phone need help please ,how can i flash back my old baseband?
Hi, new Android user here.
I was trying to root my Nexus S phone yesterday and I'm having problems. There is a lot of rooting guides out there and I used one from xda and also one from unlockr.com. Managed to root the phone ok (I think), but everytime I flash a custom ROM, the phone won't start at all, it just sits at the boot up screen and repeats itself.
So I'm thinking, I should just start over again. So I flash the stock ROM from xda back to 2.3.1. Everything seems ok, the phone starts up... but it's always stuck on airplane mode and the phone itself doesn't even show stuff like IMEI, mac address anymore.
So now I figure I've probably messed the phone up enough and need help lol. How do I go about reflashing the stock ROM and getting my Nexus back to out of the box condition (Stock ROM and no custom bootloader)?? Any guides or step by step instructions would be very helpful.
Thanks
Did you wipe before flashing roms?
Sent from my Nexus S c",)
Maybe flashing the KB2 modem would help that but the 9020a came stock with 2.3.3 and not 2.3.1 so that could be it...I'm not sure but that software wasn't meant at all for ours so it could be part of the problem. But if I was you I'd take a look at this thread wich has all the stock software for your phone. Make sure you wipe everything in clockework and then flash the stock rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13123996&postcount=39
dsixda uploaded the stock backup and the stock recovery, you can read more at that link, good luck hope it helps
You can download the full stock ROM from the link below:
http://goo.gl/8P8vl
Move the zip file to sdcard. Boot into recovery and flash the ROM. It should get you back to stock 2.3.4 ROM, all locked.
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You can download the full stock ROM from the link below:
Move the zip file to sdcard. Boot into recovery and flash the ROM. It should get you back to stock 2.3.4 ROM, all locked.
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that did the trick. thanks everyone, now time to try rooting and flashing ROM again!
hrm lol now trying to update it to 2.3.4, it downloaded the update, but on reboot i get the white triangle with ! in it :\
this phone is so messed now
edit: well now everything is ok again, wiped data, flashed with CM7 and now it says 2.3.4, go figure.
Soft bricked(total noob) just got the JIG, got into download menu.
Can someone give me instructions on how to get back to stock, gain root, and install custom ROMS/ MIUI
It be very appreciated, i'm doing this for a buddy and i don't want to give him a brick lol.
1. for restoring stock : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
2. use superoneclick to root
3. Install clockwork recovery and rom manager
4. Install custom roms.
Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
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Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium
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Pretty sure it came with 2.2 but not sure.
Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.
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Then I wouldn't do that 2.1 Odin one click.... Look for a stock 2.2 Odin or Heimdall, make sure to read thoroughly too.
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See thats the thing i hate to be a pain but im looking for detailed instructions.
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Wait before you flash that, what firmware version did it come with???
It could mess your phone up if it isn't right.
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thank you for pointing it out
OP might want to look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15330252
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=963403
Note: as b-eock pointed out, make sure what was your stock version before restoring it!
I've always just flashed newer than my stock to avoid that problem and it always works well for me, after bricking or when i want to flash a new rom i flash to cappy gingerbread and flash boog kernal to get CWM(clockworkmod). CWM is essential is you plan on flashing to other roms. If you plan on flashing to another rom anyways it doesn't matter which version of stock you load as long as it work so I'd just flash 2.2 or newer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
- this has all the odin 1-click flashable packages for captivate
To do everything you want to do...
flash back to stock, use 2.2 or one of the 2.3 versions. If you plan on flashing to a gingerbread rom (2.3) you'll most likely need the gingerbread bootloaders, if you don't originally flash a odin package with the gingerbread bootloaders you might be asked to install them later depending on what rom you use
incase you don't know odin is the computer program used to flash one click packages, you can find it by searching XDA, one click packages won't require it.
odin has to be open before you plug the usb into the phone putting it into download mode.
to flash to other roms you need CWM (ClockWorkMod-a customized recovery mode for the phone) the thread in this post has links to odin flashable kernals with CWM for each software build. To get CWM flash the respective kernal for the version you use. You'll need odin to flash the new kernal, its essentially stock apart from CWM. In odin select PDA and browse to the kernal zip to flash it.
you can search around XDA for oneclickroots, they will typically be odin or CWM flashable it's quite straight forward. New roms will typically already be rooted so you shouldn't have to root again.
good luck!
Does anyone know which exact ODIN i need to flash to get back to 2.2 from download mode.
You can use adamoutler's uckb2 heimdall one click. That's stock 2.2.
But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!
David522d said:
But whitch ODIN do i use.
Gez, HTC is so much easier then this samsung!
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Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.
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Unfortunately, there is currently no Odin one-click of stock Froyo (at least that I'm aware of). If you want stock Froyo, you'll need to either piece it together with full Odin, or use the Heimdall One-Click.
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*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.
David522d said:
*Update*
I flashed the 2.2 from this http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/blog/?page_id=186
Now i need to root and install recovery please SOMEONE HELP ME!!!! im so ****ty with this crap. Soon as i get recovery ill be straight.
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Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.
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Take a look in this post. That should get you the right 3E recovery.
Once you have that, you can either use ROM Manager to install CWM recovery, or see if you can find a kernel with it already baked in and use ODIN to flash the kernel (look for the speedmod kernel).
Or you could flash stock GB, but that updates bootloaders and is a whole different can of worms.
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wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing
Another update.
I rooted the 2.2 im on and now enabled non market apps to be downloaded.
Can someone now tell me how to install recovery and install custom ROMS!
i know i know im annoying, im sorry!
David522d said:
wouldnt it be better to root first? My focus is just getting MIUI on this thing
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Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.
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Normally, the answer would be yes. However, as part of the Froyo update, AT&T managed to mess up the recovery menu, meaning that it won't flash unsigned packages. This makes getting CWM basically impossible without doing the steps in that post or flashing a different kernel.
You can root if you want to, but doing the steps in that post first will save you some headache.
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I already rooted =/ , should i still try this?
If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.
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If you have full ODIN, go here, and download the kernel labeled "speedmod-kernel-i897-k13c-500hz.tar" at the end of the first post. Open Odin, and in the "PDA" slot, navigate to the .tar file and flash it. That will get you the speedmod kernel, which has CWM, which you need to be able to flash.
Once it's flashed, just hold V+/V-/Power until it reboots, and then you'll be in CWM and can flash MIUI.
I'm assuming you've backed up all your apps with Titanium Backup, right? If you haven't, do that before you do anything else so you don't lose them.
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Im not sure if i have "FULL" ODIN. I have the ODIN i just used to install 2.2. Then i rooted it using SUPER1CLICK.
Where do i get the full odin
hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help
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hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help
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1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.
NHS2008 said:
1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.
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No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.
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but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)
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Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.
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how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap
vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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I don't think any recovery exist after flashing a new rom. We have a locked bootloader, so we can't replace the stock recovery.img, all of our recoveries hijack the boot process to work. CM10 and PA I believe have a built in recovery, and that's about as close as you'll get to having a recovery exist after flashing a rom.
As far as restoring from JB, I believe you can downgrade to ICS, but you'll have to look at the JB thread to be certain. I'm on AT&T so I haven't had an opportunity to try JB (officially). CM10 is based on JB, but for our phone with the locked bootloader, it's more of a pseudo experience and is based on our ICS framework.
As for bricking, there is always a chance to brick, that's part of the mod game, but if you read and pay attention to what you have and what you're doing, you'll be alright.
vdpraneeth said:
but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)
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UNLESS you have AT&T phone you should be just fine with ref lashing the ICS.
YES. there is a big problem if you are not on a ROM you are restoring.
Its like you are trying to comlete your jigsaw puzzle by putting pieces from some another jigsaw puzzle.
vdpraneeth said:
how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap
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You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.
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You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.
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yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??
vdpraneeth said:
yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??
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Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.
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Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.
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thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you
vdpraneeth said:
thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you
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CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.
41rw4lk said:
CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.
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my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??
vdpraneeth said:
my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??
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You're killing me smalls. You're on ICS already, you're not downgrading anything, nor can you downgrade ie. Gingerbread. There is no Official JB for AT&T, so that's not an issue. CM10 is a JB based rom built on an ICS frame, (for our phone at least), and again, you're not downgrading.
To make a back up, boot in to CWM or whatever recovery you're using (not stock), and click backup. You might hit up the noob thread to get an idea of the terminology and basics for our device. Not trying to be rude, but you're running yourself in circles. You got to walk before you can run.