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[Q] Razr HD Dev Edition or Razr Maxx HD

Thinking of taking the plunge to the Razr HD but not sure what to get. Would you get the RAZR HD Dev edition or the Maxx? I will be paying outright to keep my unlim data with Verizon. The unlocked edition is tempting to mod it but so is the extended battery life of the Maxx. I'm a fairly heavy user coming from the Galaxy Nexus that wasn't cutting it in the battery department.

I was torn with the decision too (coming from a Thunderbolt), but ultimately I went with the Razr Maxx HD. I am confident enough that with fastboot and kexec (once a Razr HD hack is available), that needing an officially unlocked bootloader is not required to satisfy my power-user needs.
Loving the Maxx thus far. Rooted it within the first 10-minutes of powering it up. It just "feels" like a good phone. Great build quality (doesn't feel cheap/plasticy like Samsung phones) and the weight isn't much different than my T-Bolt. And I am really looking forward to experiencing what multi-day battery life feels like. I rocked the Rezound battery in my Thunderbolt, and for the phone got good battery life, but I would never go overnight without charging since it would be at 20-30 by the time I would head to bed.
Looking forward to what the dev community has in store for this phone!

I just bit the bullet and paid for the dev... although the above poster is accurate I just like knowing that my device will be unlocked from day 1... the battery is still miles above older phones.
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GoClifGo05 said:
I just bit the bullet and paid for the dev... although the above poster is accurate I just like knowing that my device will be unlocked from day 1... the battery is still miles above older phones.
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Before u unlock the phone plz get with some super devs maybe u guys can figure this out for the rest of us please
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I am in no way a developer but if I can help one out you bet I will.
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So heres the Fat question: Who's returning and who's keeping

Just a basic question, no trolling. Just wondering what issues people have, and wondering who's leaving it for something else.
Im still intended on keeping this, but if that HTC DNA comes out writing my return period (45 days)I might have to consider that instead.

What issues are people having?

Returning. Camera is terrible. Will either go back to my s3 or wait for the HTC DNA.

If you want a camera, go buy a camera its a phone not a Nikon. Keep that in mind.
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It seems like the camera issues are mainly software so I assume they will be fixed. Pocket now did a video sample and it came out great!
Even if the camera gets an update it still won't be as good as the s3, but the large battery makes up for it imho.
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Keeping.
I cant imagine going to any other device right now. It just feels so nice in my hands. Recovery is on its way, we have root, just need JB ROMs and i will be set.

Deus_eps_machina said:
Keeping.
I cant imagine going to any other device right now. It just feels so nice in my hands. Recovery is on its way, we have root, just need JB ROMs and i will be set.
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Are the developers that are working on the RAZR HD on a different forum or just silent for now?
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Apparently TWRP from the RAZR M works fine for this (not scaled for an HD screen).
Devs are currently silent, but i suggest you saunter on over to the Dev forum on XDA and check out the JB leak thread.

After 7 days of use, I am on the fence.
With the "Smart Actions" application, I am lasting a day plus on battery alone.
The build quality is solid and like Deus_eps_machina said, it feels good in the palm of your hand.
Although intermittent, I am finding that the radio drops completely when I have full LTE to a red triangle.
With Jellybean around the corner (they're are leaks already), I am hoping that my signal issues are addressed.
If so, I will hold on to this until the next glut of "flagship" devices arrive.

I've never experienced the signal issue, but have been reading about it. Try doing an exchange?
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Perhaps with the upcoming update a new radio firmware will improve the signal quality? My Razr has been doing great.
Anyway, I'm keeping this girl. I'm on 1d and 15hrs usage with over 4 hours of screen time. My old g-nex wouldn't have been able to touch 1/2 of that battery performance. the only major issue with this phone, as others have pointed out, is the lousy camera. the camera sucks but it isn't a deal breaker.

shock2sys said:
Perhaps with the upcoming update a new radio firmware will improve the signal quality? My Razr has been doing great.
Anyway, I'm keeping this girl. I'm on 1d and 15hrs usage with over 4 hours of screen time. My old g-nex wouldn't have been able to touch 1/2 of that battery performance. the only major issue with this phone, as others have pointed out, is the lousy camera. the camera sucks but it isn't a deal breaker.
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My thoughts exactly. I don't own it yet but I plan on buying it. Coming from the Nexus S I don't have high expectations in regards to the camera... I'm sad I'm leaving stock AOSP behind though

snowmanwithahat said:
My thoughts exactly. I don't own it yet but I plan on buying it. Coming from the Nexus S I don't have high expectations in regards to the camera... I'm sad I'm leaving stock AOSP behind though
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Its so close to AOSP that I dont think you will be that saddened (at least in the visual sense). With Nova launcher and the stock jelly bean icons, you would be pretty happy IMHO.

its tough for me cuz I have the S3, so its about which one do I want more. Had I not used the s3 I'd think this phone was insane. But I know first hand the camera is well below. And with cm10 and razr m launcher the S3 is basically the same ui.

DertyDOH said:
its tough for me cuz I have the S3, so its about which one do I want more. Had I not used the s3 I'd think this phone was insane. But I know first hand the camera is well below. And with cm10 and razr m launcher the S3 is basically the same ui.
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That Black SGS3 looks great, but with the HTC DNA / Note 2 and even the 8x, I think id rather hold out for those (or keep the razr)

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robstunner said:
That Black SGS3 looks great, but with the HTC DNA / Note 2 and even the 8x, I think id rather hold out for those (or keep the razr)
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Seems like the note 2 is getting awesome battery life....anyone have any opinions on which phone would last longer?

ppau0822 said:
Seems like the note 2 is getting awesome battery life....anyone have any opinions on which phone would last longer?
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I would vote this one. 200mAh more, smaller screen and no touchwiz. Spec wise, the note 2 blows this out of the water in every category other than battery size and durability. Reception probably is better on the RAZR too.
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ppau0822 said:
Seems like the note 2 is getting awesome battery life....anyone have any opinions on which phone would last longer?
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The note 2 battery is awesome and this one also but I got the maxx and the note
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If the camera is bothering you that much just download camera zoom fx from the app store and you will notice a huge difference
But I don't think the stock camera is THAT bad
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i have tried camerazoomfx, it does improve slightly but it is still below par....

Droid Razr HD or GSIII?

Which should I pick up(Verizon)? I feel like it's hardware vs software (why can't I have both? ). The build quality on this phone looks stellar and the kevlar looks boss, but it's lacking atm in development. On the other hand the GSIII has a GIANT following, dozens of ROMs, an extra gig of RAM, and just seems to be cared about/getting software attention.... but it looks like a kids toy... Will the Razr pick up speed? Opinions?

Go for the RAZR HD. Software can change, hardware not so much.

RAZR HD if u care about good reception and battery life
Cause even thou the g3 has roms we still beat them there vs a stock RAZR HD
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Hasn't this topic been beaten to death already in other threads? Pick up whatever one you want. A bunch of thread-posters aren't going to change your mind if you're decided on one already. They're both very good devices capable of doing a lot of the same stuff. It's going to depend on your personality and how you plan to use the phone.

Droid Razr HD :good:

Just saw the JB leak, getting the Razr haha.

+1 ^ saw the leak about 5mins ago, you beat me to it. Excited to test it out.

I just ditched my S3 on Sprint and am I ever glad I did. Loving the Razr much more.
Meanwhile, my S3 is streaming constant video on roaming until Sprint cancels my contract for me.

Razor hd. I live in a low service area with my s3 and it is horrible. I have to stand in a certain part of my house just to send a text. I recover no calls and making calls is out of the question. Personally I'd wait for the nexus 4 though mad swap to t-mobile.
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abissel22 said:
Razor hd. I live in a low service area with my s3 and it is horrible. I have to stand in a certain part of my house just to send a text. I recover no calls and making calls is out of the question. Personally I'd wait for the nexus 4 though mad swap to t-mobile.
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guess im at the opposite end. Sold my 32GB S3 and just got a razr HD yesterday. I like the phone and the JB leak makes it way smoother...but the locked bootloader and lack of development so far is making me wonder. I never had reception problems with my S3. IDK... missing my S3 tremendouslt a.t.m. The Razr HD is a nice phone. Feels way more solid in my hand and hardware is good. Build quality..superb. Just my ramblings...lol. Happy trails with whatever u decide. Thanks again devs for all your work. I am on XDA more than FB...have a great night everyone.

S3 by far.
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SIII more fashionable, DR is more manly.

Battery vs roms?
The other stuff is subjective.
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This screenshot from my RAZR is with Bluetooth enabled, GPS enabled, 4g on and the screen on set to auto brightness for the entire duration of the test while streaming slacker internet radio. Also for the entire duration of the test. Awesome battery life. Also it would seem as though this phone is capable of simultaneous data and voice even in 3g mode. Unless my phone is broken and not actually supposes to do that.
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I sold my S3 and switched to the Razr too. It is SO much faster - amazing phone and 1080p!
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vegiisan said:
I sold my S3 and switched to the Razr too. It is SO much faster - amazing phone and 1080p!
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720p actually, but yes a very vibrant HD screen. Video capture is 1080p.

Razr HD =
finishing iPhone and Android power :silly:

for sure S3 (but only the 4G version we are talking about here)
BinarySauce said:
Which should I pick up(Verizon)? I feel like it's hardware vs software (why can't I have both? ). The build quality on this phone looks stellar and the kevlar looks boss, but it's lacking atm in development. On the other hand the GSIII has a GIANT following, dozens of ROMs, an extra gig of RAM, and just seems to be cared about/getting software attention.... but it looks like a kids toy... Will the Razr pick up speed? Opinions?
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for sure S3 (but only the 4G version we are talking about here)
2G of RAM and quadcore kick ass,
check out the benchmark score and also i couldn't stand the speed of RAZR HD after i install all my apps
(restoring from back up online/cloud)
so does this means... the phone seems quick but only when it's new and empty (app-wise)
soon i load with 2 anti-virus, 4 chat apps, CPU&RAM monitor, Battery Widget, Netspeed monitor, App Protector...
and i thought i hate my HTC ONE X enough to love whatever phone next to it.
but... no, i changed it back to ONE X until i got my hands on S3 LTE version.
(this is only my point of view after using the phone *my way*)
cheers.:good:

Maybe it's just me, but even when playing with the two phones at a store, SG3 seemed more responsive and less laggy. Hopefully JB helps HD in that department.
I also think phones these days should come with two gigs of ram given how cheap ram is.
Overall, I am still undecided. Both are great phones, both have strong and weak points, which have been documented extensively by now.
It sounds like if you live in an area with weak signal, need long battery life and don't use the camera much, HD is your phone. If, on the other hand, you like slightly stronger specs and need a good camera, you are probably better off with SG3. Also, I like physical buttons (personal preference) and development is probably going to be stronger for SG3.
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qqhsiao said:
for sure S3 (but only the 4G version we are talking about here)
2G of RAM and quadcore kick ass,
check out the benchmark score and also i couldn't stand the speed of RAZR HD after i install all my apps
(restoring from back up online/cloud)
so does this means... the phone seems quick but only when it's new and empty (app-wise)
soon i load with 2 anti-virus, 4 chat apps, CPU&RAM monitor, Battery Widget, Netspeed monitor, App Protector...
and i thought i hate my HTC ONE X enough to love whatever phone next to it.
but... no, i changed it back to ONE X until i got my hands on S3 LTE version.
(this is only my point of view after using the phone *my way*)
cheers.:good:
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Comments like this make me worry :/ I have heard many things about this phone lagging more than other flagship devices running 4.04(from sleep, lots of apps, laggy camera, b/c less ram?). Can this prominent lag experience be tweaked out and/or does jelly bean fix it? :/ I like my butter....

Should I trade for a Droid Razr HD?

Straight trade. I need opinions by the morning.
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i would never do that.

Hold onto your S3 , I honestly think you'd be losing out on this one
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Thanks guys, that's how I was feeling too.

The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.

I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2

fr8cture said:
The only thing on verizon i would trade for is the droid DNA because of the quad core cpu and 1080p display.
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Not even the Note 2?
DertyDOH said:
I did exactly that last month. Haven't looked back. But at the same time if I had stuck with the s3 I don't think i would have regretted that either. Razr HD has the great build of aluminum and kevlar, the cool led notification bar under the logo and a nice aosp-ish software build, plus battery life is better. However, run the Razr HD launcher on CM10 on the s3 and thats basically the speed experience you get on the razr. Software stutter included, scrolling left to the quick settings stutters the first time you do it after each unlock, and the camera isn't terrible but is noticeably worse. A little annoying. I'm actually debating going back to the Galaxy nexus for some pure 4.2
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Have you tried any custom roms?
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Locked bootloaders suck!

For a non max hd? Never. For a razr hd maxx. Yes
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I'd probably do it for the maxx if development picks up.
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If you were to, then definitely go w/ the MAXX. I personally wouldn't trade at all. Best Android on the market based on size and feel.

I'd definitely stick with the S3.
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GS3 or GN2, anything else is a downgrade!

Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!

razz1 said:
Maybe you have never owned a Moto. I always have until I bought this GS3 because I vowed to dump them for their locked bootloader BS! I was very sick and tired of the inability to load a custom kernel. Do you want to overclock? Do you want alot of development for your phone? I'm not saying there isn't development for moto, but it's a difficult and time consuming process. You may be looking many many months before you can just overclock. Everything is a pain because you have to work around their kernel which can't be touched. Kexec is still fairly new for Moto and last I checked there was only one custom kernel that could be side loaded for the Razr and devs couldn't figure out how to get the second core to work on the CPU. Obviously this is a hot subject with me lol. My last Moto was the "red headed step child"(BIONIC). Bionic..."The machine of all machines" Motorola's Flagship". Then 2 or 3 weeks later the Razr comes out and claim that the flagship! That was strike one and it continued from there through development struggling. The only thing thats good about Moto is there decent build quality, radios, and when something good finally gets developed for it you just about poop yourself!
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Yeah, I had the atrix and atrix 2 over on at&t (Atrices?) and the locked bootloader always pissed me off. That's what I love about Samsung, there will never not be a new rom to try.
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I'm with the others, certainly wouldn't do a straight trade.

A HD MAXX probably but not the HD. The camera is pretty bad though.
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syoungblood95 said:
Not even the Note 2?
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No I have small hands and that home button is terrible.
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i have both in my hands right now....traded my galaxy nexus for the razr HD...i love the build quality of the razr, battery life and the motorola radios..however it lacks the developer support that the s3 has...only a few roms out there....both feel about as fluid and fast as the other...so the main question is are you a crackflasher or not.....thats what it boils down to me....plus the amount of accessories for the s3 compared to the razr

The battery isn't a problem for the GS3 because of the fact you can put in a new battery or extended. The Razr line does have nice build quality but ugly design. To me, I think Samsung does a better job with their software and the camera is a lot better vs Motorola. I haven't notice any worst when it comes to wireless radio going from a Maxx to a GS3. The Wi-Fi is better on my GS3. Even though the newer Motorola phones have that "stock Android" look & feel it doesn't feel optimized yet. It lags from time to time. And the Samsung development is way better. The developers have done awesome work and pretty much negated the locked boot loader. Motorola's development is a joke. There's no reason to get a Motorola phone any time soon in my opinion. They haven't stepped anything up in the last few years except for battery life.

What would you buy?

So with taxes I'm looking to spend about $350 on a phone with no contact. I WAS thinking the nexus 4 but people on craigslist are retarded asking $500+ because people bought out the play store with the intentions of reselling and ripping people off. So other than that I was thinking of getting an s3 or a note 1, possibly a one x.
My questions are, which carrier version, and which one should I get. I want one that I could use on family mobile with better speeds, maybe simple mobile or something. I'm into rooting and roms and overall best specs out there. So which phone should I get in that price range, and which carrier version? Processor and ppi as well as camera is most important to me.
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I honestly would go for a razr Maxx hd.... Or an s3. The hd doesn't have as much rom support but it will once the price drops. Plus my battery lasts all day with super heavy data usage!
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[email protected] said:
I honestly would go for a razr Maxx hd.... Or an s3. The hd doesn't have as much rom support but it will once the price drops. Plus my battery lasts all day with super heavy data usage!
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I'm looking for something by the end of this month into early next month, for 350, and needs to be gsm.
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Any other thoughts?
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Personally, the Note is a little on the large side for a phone, however, some people like it. Would suggest that you get some extended hands on time with it out before buying. S3 has good feedback except for the build materials (i.e. drop and chip) and is roughly the form factor that I would be comfortable with and there is quite a bit of ROM development for it. A friend uses a Note 1 and swears by it, connects it up as a laptop at home with keyboard, mouse and monitor (his portable office). Haven't had a chance to test out the OneX but what I have read on the forums are that it has good battery life, solid performance and since it is basically stock, updates are quick. Just got WP8 as a xmas gift, from an SGS2. Don't recommend it, until they fix some pretty fundamental missing features but the camera is by far the best I have seen so far.

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Personally, the Note is a little on the large side for a phone, however, some people like it. Would suggest that you get some extended hands on time with it out before buying. S3 has good feedback except for the build materials (i.e. drop and chip) and is roughly the form factor that I would be comfortable with and there is quite a bit of ROM development for it. A friend uses a Note 1 and swears by it, connects it up as a laptop at home with keyboard, mouse and monitor (his portable office). Haven't had a chance to test out the OneX but what I have read on the forums are that it has good battery life, solid performance and since it is basically stock, updates are quick. Just got WP8 as a xmas gift, from an SGS2. Don't recommend it, until they fix some pretty fundamental missing features but the camera is by far the best I have seen so far.
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I really like the note, just hate that the bigger screen lowers the ppi. Plus I kinda feel like it's an s2, but bigger. Someone tell me it's more than just an s2 lol.
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im sorry for dropping in and asking a question not related to the thread but i couldnt think of anything else and i have already searched to no avail so my question is can anyone help me turn on my old moto cliq2? the power button is hashed but i have turned it on with the slide out keyboard i just cant figure out the exact way so i can do it everytime... thx for all the help ive already received and thx ahead if i get any answeres

I've had nothing but good experiences with Samsung phones. Have a GS2 skyrocket and it's an awesome phone. ROM support is strong, and definitely affordable on your budget.

i would buy the htc one x+. i really like the htc os. a few years ago i bought the htc desire hd and i've never regretted it. so why not switching to another phone by htc

HTC One X looks very cute. But I heard about screen problems. I am most interested in Nexus 4, however it's not available in my country, but I would recommend it. I love that Nexus 4 has stock Android.

HTC one xl owner here....absolutely no screen problems. Gorgeous screen, great ROMs with great devs, great camera and battery life and you will find some at a very nice price. Only downside is storage and no external SD slot.
Funny u mention screen problems as I've heard the nexus 4 has some.
This phone is really good, not cheaply build like the s3 and personally I feel its better (hence why I chose it over the s3)
Oh and BTW our phones are pretty much unbrickable, flashing ROMs is a breeze and rooting can be done with a downloadable script. And they do t suffer from gs3 problems which they seem to be having plenty of.
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Yea ... the note is basically an S2 with a bigger screen + battery
Nickdroid86 said:
I really like the note, just hate that the bigger screen lowers the ppi. Plus I kinda feel like it's an s2, but bigger. Someone tell me it's more than just an s2 lol.
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Well, at the time of release, that was the feeling wasn't it . A 18% (I think off hand) increase in screen with a 25% increase in battery. So yea, it is basically an S2. 0.2GHz more and most everything else is the same.

I think you should go with all new Galaxy Note II has a 5.5-inch HD Super Amoled touchscreen display that supports 1280x720 pixel resolution natively which runs Android 4.1 Jelly Bean.
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orezon said:
HTC One X looks very cute. But I heard about screen problems. I am most interested in Nexus 4, however it's not available in my country, but I would recommend it. I love that Nexus 4 has stock Android.
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Got dat One X+ few days ago its amazin with CM 10.1!