I installed a Chrome Beta apk I got from some of the other forums here at XDA, but I seem to be getting FCs every time I launch the app, was wondering if anyone got it working or if anyone has found a fix for this issue.
It requires hw acceleration. Won't work for us yet until we get that achieved.
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That makes sense, I did manage to download an apk that does not FC every time, but I can't really says it's usable.
Here's hoping the CM9 team or some other dev manages to make it work someday.
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That makes sense, I did manage to download an apk that does not FC every time, but I can't really says it's usable.
Here's hoping the CM9 team or some other dev manages to make it work someday.
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I got it directly from the market and it loads but all pages are blank.
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I can't download it from the market since I don't live in the US, but I get the same results as you, it loads but all pages are blank, and I can see the synced results on the omnibox but no page returns.
I have it installed. No FC's, but it doesn't work. As stated, it needs hardware acceleration. It went through the entire setup, sign in, and import of all normal information. But when you try to load anything, you stare at a blank screen.
have u try texasice' ROM, igoogle chrome beta work great with ICS AOSP
For anyone wanting latest Chrome beta without modifying build.prop, go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1515900
I flash the "MeDroidMOD 1.4.0 HWA" ROM that can run chrome browser,but it can't switch tab.So my chrome browser has many tabs and can't close it.
Have any one know to solve it?
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I flash the "MeDroidMOD 1.4.0 HWA" ROM that can run chrome browser,but it can't switch tab.So my chrome browser has many tabs and can't close it.
Have any one know to solve it?
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Update to 1.4.2 fixes Chrome beta so you may want to give it a go.
I tryied once downloaded from dropbox and it works fine but a little slow
I tryied once downloaded from dropbox and it works fine but a little slow
Hello,
I installed (with pain) the official stock jelly bean on my GEDified Xoom. I thought "project butter" was a real big improvement, according to what I could read in many threads, I was then asking myself why, if it's such a big improvement, the release name didn't change to 5.0 instead of 4.1.1...
Now I have my answer !
Launcher :
I can say yes, there is a fluidity enhancements, but not as much as expected. I could not see much differences between ICS and JB regarding the fluidity, the stock launcher has only been improved a bit : if an icon page is full of icons, with 2 widgets on it, then there are a few lags ...
I use Nova launcher since ICS, and this one is really smooth as butter, much more than the stock JB launcher. You can put 3 or 4 widgets on a same icons page with absolutly no lag at all.
Web browser :
The same with the default JB web browser : I can feel improvements, but some web pages (with no Flash activated) are still laggy ... Compare it with Opera Mini and you will see what smooth as butter should mean ! Opera is just perfectly smooth, no lag at all on any web page.
Non-Google applications :
I couldn't find any fluidity enhancement when running non-google applications. The applications which where laggy with ICS are still laggy with JB, and unfortunatly, perfectly smooth Android applications are too rares ...
I can't even really use most of the new features of JB :
- I can't use the new icons auto-rearranging when moving a widget on a page as the stock launcher is not smooth enough for me, I use Nova Launcher which is perfectly fluid but does not have this feature.
- I can't ear the beautifull voice of Google Voice Search, as I'm french, and it only works for English language ... But I'm not even sure the problem is here, the main problem is that on the official stock JB release, there is no "download offline speach recognition" option in Google Now, so you just cannot activate it. But you can do it on a Team EOS ROM !!!!! This is a shame !!!
- I forgot this one ... I even lost an important feature ! My external SD Card could read or write with ICS, now it's READ ONLY !!!
As the fluidity is my main concern on my Xoom, I was disapointed, I was expecting too many improvements when I read threads of people testing Jelly Bean, so by making this thread I hope I will help people not yet running JB to not be disapointed as I am.
Now I hope the "project butter" is not closed at Google as there are still many improvements to do on this point, I can say that because some third party applications are perfectly smooth where the Google ones are not, so it is not an hardware problem, I am pretty sure that a dual core tablet should be enough to display 2D applications smoothly. But will our good old Xoom receive the future major Android release ? I don't think so as we are already lucky enough to receive JB after more than one year of existence for the Xoom ... But there are still a few bugs to remove in JB, I hope Google will update it (I never had a single crash when running ICS, on JB, I had one the first day I used it when I tried to change the background wall paper, my screen became black and the Xoom rebooted ...).
So now I am thinking of trying a JB custom ROM, but it was so painful to me to restore all my data and applications after the official OTA update (my bootloader was unlocked so the OTA didn't work, I had to put back my Xoom to a factory state with locked bootloader which let me loose all my data) that I'm now a bit lazy and not sure that the custom ROM will be smooter than the stock one.
I have HTC One X and if I get the same JB results on this phone I am definitely giving up on Android and testing Windows Phone. There was a Nokia promotion at my school a few months back and I tested one of their models with Windows. I was impressed by how fast and lag-free it is. I would definitely give it a go.
This phone that I am using has a quad core cpu, 1gb of RAM and what not and OS still lags!! I mean come on!!
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flash an eos rom and you will see the real "smooth as butter"
omnia1994 said:
flash an eos rom and you will see the real "smooth as butter"
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Did you compare the EOS rom to the stock one ? In fact I would be glad to see a video of the Team EOS release running on a Xoom ...
One of my friends tried windows phone and said it was like running a Beta. Came back to Android.
Major benefits were integration with Xbox.
Windows tablet may fair slightly better but the ARM not being able to run current apps seems a bit like cutting of their arms
I don't think there is cause to assume we will not get KLP (Android 4.2 or 5.0) yet, its a year old. Google seem to want to support devices for 18 months as per last IO...?
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It's time to be honest- there's only going to be so much ANY software can do on our Xooms, as it turns out that part of the issue is a hardware problem- but not where you'd expect. One of the things folks don't realize about Android is that the performance can be heavily dependent on the type, kind and size of the Flash disk storage a device contains. Flash storage, especially the what's-now-older kind that's on our Xooms, just doesn't perform very well if there's a lot of small, random writes to it, and there's a lot of these in a typical running Android system.
What ends up happening during these small writes is the system can end up waiting a relative eternity on any other disk-based I/O once the Flash controller chip (the one built into the Flash device, not the controller on the CPU) determines it's time to reorganize itself- and what that means is that during that time, the system can (and often does) appear unresponsive, or "stutter". I've worked on several Android handsets and tablets over the last few years, and this problem is beginning to be well-known.
A good example of this is to try listening to music, then browsing a complex webpage- as the browser writes its cache and various database files, many times the music will pause, stutter or click.
I've been doing what I can in EOS kernels to improve the random-small-write performance of the Flash disk- changing when and where writes happen, changing the geometry of where they occur, and I'm now actually testing a series of changes that are based on an academic Whitepaper that look quite promising (but it'll require an entire "Factory Reset" type wipe to make it work).
BTW, if you want to see something eye-opening, run PassMark (or some other disk-I/O benchmark that compares against other devices) and see how badly we do against more-modern devices.
(TL;DR: newer handsets and tablets will likely perform better on JB, mostly 'cause our Flash devices could perform better in many often-used scenarios.)
Thanks a lot for this answer, I understand what you mean about flash memory.
But there are some ways, with the current Xoom hardware, to make things very smooth as some third party softwares do it :
- Nova Launcher -> Perfectly smooth, no lags whatever the number of Widgets are displayed. JB Launcher is much more laggy ...
- Opera Mini -> Perfectly smooth, and very responsive.
So I really cannot understand why Google cannot make things smoother if other companies do !
Plus some apps have perfectly fluid menus (I mean when you just scroll a menu, it's perfectly fluid) and some other apps have their menu so laggy ...
So I really feel like it's not a hardware question but more the way the apps have been developped.
and what about the Linaro code ? Wouldn't it make JB smoother ?
Opera Mini isn't really a fair comparison. How does it compare to Opera Mobile or Firefox or Dolphin or whatever? Opera Mini was intended for small memory devices and doesn't even render the pages locally. The are rendered on Opera's servers and then the result is compressed and sent to the device to be displayed.
I'd say your comparison regarding the launcher though is valid. I haven't personally experienced much lag but I don't have many Widgets.
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Go EOS you will not be disappointed!! I was very disappointed when ICS came out for my stingray Xoom i didn't even stay on it for more than a couple hours after getting it OTA before i went and flashed the EOS ICS ROM.
As for browsers i love Dolphin HD.
I have stock JB on my Xoom and other than minor launcher lag with multiple widgets, I find this to be really smooth and 100% stable. I see very noticeable improvements over ICS, especially with graphics and overall the smoothness. Overall I am very content.
I will also say, the battery life has surely improved over ICS! For 3D gaming, I lose about 7.5% - 10% in 45 minutes, which projects to about 7.5 hours of gaming with a possible max of 10 hours!!
Sounds like project rusty beans on your Xoom then.
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I was wondering if many of the Project Butter enhancements were launcher related. I've always used Nova Launcher as well, and I have seen lag in the past on ICS. Especially since my desktop consists mostly of widgets. PB Launcher is definitely a little better than Nova when loaded with widgets, in my experience. But the ability to customize rows/columns and get rid of icon labels is compelling enough to use Nova. Nevermind the ability to utilize most of the screen without a 1" border on each side, as is the cast with the stock launcher.
One huge difference is with the Netflix app. I remember them talking about Project Butter enhancements to the Framework during the I/O keynote speech, and I suspect the changes helped almost completely eliminate the AWFUL lag I'd experienced in the Netflix app in ICS. Once a show got going, the streaming was fine. It was when navigating through the app that it was horrendous. In JB, it is great!
Fix External Card Write problems
Dizzy,
I had the same exact issue when trying to write to my SD Card - it was write protected and only allowed read permissions. I had problems restoring backups with Titanium Backup and creating new ones - as my backups were on my External card.
I found the solution which seemed to cure-all. I found it with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20869996&postcount=7
Basically, assuming you are rooted, in /system/etc/permissions/ mount this folder using ES File Explorer or Root Explorer as R/W, then open platform.xml in text editor and find WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. Add an additional group definition for this permission...<group gid="media_rw" />. Save changes or exit and save changes and then reboot tablet.
You can always try the automated way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458021
Good luck!
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Dizzy,
I had the same exact issue when trying to write to my SD Card - it was write protected and only allowed read permissions. I had problems restoring backups with Titanium Backup and creating new ones - as my backups were on my External card.
I found the solution which seemed to cure-all. I found it with this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20869996&postcount=7
Basically, assuming you are rooted, in /system/etc/permissions/ mount this folder using ES File Explorer or Root Explorer as R/W, then open platform.xml in text editor and find WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission. Add an additional group definition for this permission...<group gid="media_rw" />. Save changes or exit and save changes and then reboot tablet.
You can always try the automated way: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1458021
Good luck!
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Thanks a lot for these informations, unfortunatly my Xoom is not rooted (I had so many problems to update to JB when my Xoom had the bootloader unlocked that I had to re-lock it...).
So I cannot use this solution, and I don't understand why Google put the SD card Readonly where it was read/write in ICS ...
This is really a big disapointment for me from Jelly Bean. I hope Google will change that in the next JB update.
I have tried Jelly Bean as well and noticed that while it is a little smoother than ICS, it isn't "buttery" smooth. That said I don't believe it's so much the software as it is the hardware. Tegra 2's GPU is quite lacking in general and was a huge letdown for many people. If for example you check out JB on an Asus Transformer Prime/Infinity or a Nexus 7, you'll notice it is MUCH smoother overall. Finally, a lot of older apps haven't been updated yet to use GPU acceleration but there is a setting in the developer options to force gpu acceleration which should make those apps perform better.
My Droid Bionic running an ICS leak is smoother than my Xoom on JB simply because it has a faster gpu. The only thing I really noticed that helped with my Xoom's performance was running it at 1.5Ghz OC on the Team EOS rom. There are still websites that lag and have issues, but in general it does run much better than stock.
As for WP7 it is a smooth OS yes but VERY incomplete....WP8 looks to address many of the issues with WP7 but it will also break a lot of compatibility yet again and will basically alienate the current entire WP7 userbase...(if you didnt know WP8 will run most WP7 apps, but WP7 can't run any of the WP8 apps).
Is it just me, or does the Xoom seem to get faster over time with Jelly Bean? I was part of the soak test, so may have had it a few days loner than most, and I have done a couple of resets early on, but over the last couple of days, it definitely seems snappier
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I've got a mz601 and i have to say that JB is totally lag-free on my XOOM. I've never used stock firmware (EOS only) and after updating from ICS (that was laggy as hell) i havn't seen any lag whatsoever. But when i updated to JB i did a complete factory reset (formatted system, user data, cache, internal sdcard and external sdcard) and it was as if i had bought a new tablet.
Stock JB launcher has no lag, system ui has no lag, browser has a little lag when opening complex websites, music and videos have no lag. Also Flash works much better (even if it's not officially supported).
Some apps still lag like they did on ICS but i guess that is an app developement problem since most apps also work lag-free...
GO... GO.... GOOGLE... Android just keeps getting better and better...
PS! I also have the original iPad and that lags alot with ios 5. I also have a powerful desktop-PC (i7 with 8gb ram) with windows 7 and I have to say that the XOOM opens websites faster and scrolls much smoother (even with a bluetooth mouse).
PS2! I'm not an android fan. I like all gadgets but android seems to be moving in the right direction.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/07/revisiting-the-xoom-examining-jelly-bean-on-a-10-inch-tablet/
Here is an interesting review of JB on the Xoom
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Is it just me, or does the Xoom seem to get faster over time with Jelly Bean? I was part of the soak test, so may have had it a few days loner than most, and I have done a couple of resets early on, but over the last couple of days, it definitely seems snappier
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I have the exact same feeling ...
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I have the exact same feeling ...
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I have been very critical of JB since getting it last Friday but I have to say that today the whole experience seems to be coming together and some of the early faults I was experiencing have pretty much gone all of a sudden.
It seems quicker now though only marginally but thats still a step up from how it was at the beginning. And since switching to chrome instead of ICS browser it seems to be giving a better browsing experience; which was definitely not the case with chrome on ICS for me.
Was I the only one who thought I'd lose flash capability after updating to jelly bean, because I didn't
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It is already known that side loading Flash player will still work on jellybean.
I had flash installed before the update and it works just fine after without any problems
Restored mine using using Titanium. No problems so far...
You guys who are side reloaded your Flash app, what did you do before hand, did you uninstall Flash from ICS prior?
I upgraded to Jelly Bean, Flash was already present in ICS beforehand and it's still present in Jelly Bean after the update. No sideloading, back-up/restore required.
Flash never worked in Chrome, but it's always worked in Stock, and there's a new browser that I don't think many may know about, but Mozilla has a new mobile browser that blows the Android Firefox away, it's called Aurora and it's the only browser where I can visit Youtube like it's a regular Intel x86 browser and watch Youtube vids and comment without ever needing the Youtube app.
Yes it's Aurora and it's from Mozilla that makes Firefox. It's everything Firefox on Android should be.
Had Flash installed before the update, updated to JB, flash is still there, works fine. (Chrome has no plugin support whatsoever, Flash didn't work there on ICS either.)
There's been a thread about Jelly Bean and Flash since 15 July in the Android General forum. Do your research, seriously. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774336
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... and there's a new browser that I don't think many may know about, but Mozilla has a new mobile browser that blows the Android Firefox away, it's called Aurora and it's the only browser where I can visit Youtube like it's a regular Intel x86 browser and watch Youtube vids and comment without ever needing the Youtube app.
Yes it's Aurora and it's from Mozilla that makes Firefox. It's everything Firefox on Android should be.
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Still in beta - not very stable. Won't stay open long enough to browse to flash sites to test it. Maybe not as compatible with 4.2.1.
Aurora is the alpha testing phase of Firefox. It's not a new browser.
I am using Cromi-X4.6.x
More often than not, Flash is unstable and FC's my stock browser, anyone else?
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I am using Cromi-X4.6.x
More often than not, Flash is unstable and FC's my stock browser, anyone else?
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Haven't noticed any issues on Stock. Do you have Flash set to Always or On Demand?
JB works fine with Flash on my tablets and phones. Only does not work with stock browser and Chrome. Does not work on new Dolphin, but that is because the devs killed the function. Works fine with Dolphin 9.4.1 beta though.
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JB works fine with Flash on my tablets and phones. Only does not work with stock browser and Chrome. Does not work on new Dolphin, but that is because the devs killed the function. Works fine with Dolphin 9.4.1 beta though.
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You need to set it to 'on demand' in Stock, then it works.
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Haven't noticed any issues on Stock. Do you have Flash set to Always or On Demand?
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I have it set to always on.
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I have it set to always on.
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Try setting it to On Demand. Might be be more stable that way.
Dolphin's newer beta with flash - bit.ly/10GcmeQ
The recently-released Next Browser (from the Go Launcher Dev Team) supports flash with JB, but it is kinda buggy. Seems to only allow one flash applet per tab.
Hi
I can't post in real thread so it is here , I'm on big part from beginning (Everest XOOM) and at first everything works great but in last two weeks problem start both on Chrome and Chrome Beta.
I try dalvik wipe , cash wipe, try to use ART , try to reinstall both applications , to remove flash player and finally switch from OMNI to CM11 but there is still same problem
so if anybody have any suggestion it would be great
Many thanks in advance
I install ElementalX-Xoom-2.1 ( full version not vanilla ) and enable zrom and it is better I can work little longer on Chrome but eventually problem occurs again ...
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I install ElementalX-Xoom-2.1 ( full version not vanilla ) and enable zrom and it is better I can work little longer on Chrome but eventually problem occurs again ...
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I also had serious problems with Chrome constantly freezing and crashing on my Xoom wifi upgraded to Kitkat Omnirom 4.4.2. I've installed version 33 as advised in another thread (a developer one that doesn't allow me to post there), using an apk file linked on that thread.
I haven't tested this yet but, assuming it works ok, how do I stop it from updating automatically? Any idea on how we'll know when an update appears that is safe to install, and will work?
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I had the same problem too. Chrome on Omni and TeamEOS kept freezing. Only to kill the running app was helpful till it freezes again.
Then I've installed Chrome Beta (v37.0.2062.55) and since then everything seems ok. Until now no more freezes.
Maybe anybody else to prove that?
Simple fact of the matter is, KK is just slow on the Xoom. I'm amazed that we even saw 4.4, seeing as how mine (wingray) is over 4 years old.
I ran CM11 there for a while, but the constant freezing of Chrome and the slow clunkiness of the interface was enough to drive me back to CM10.1