Proposal---- Build cellphone with off shelf components, or 3d printed components, using an advanced moving point ad hock mesh network to pass encrypted packets, with multiple chain parody across an ever changing free network
in other words free the data..... free the world........
I am a node, I am moving this way, you are here and like data, I like data, here is some for you from here, I can have some from you.... bye bye I am going to talk to this car for a moment, and then this wireless router over here....
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Another nice idea would be a modular input system, like a accelerometer , etc
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Hello all
I've been reading this forum for some months now and i like the windows'es and informations i've found here on my Hermes device
But now i have some questions on using the often integrated tool field test.
I've found out that with the IMSI-catcher (german wikipedia as one of the sources), that are more and more often used semi-legal by the police(here in europe there are a lot of 'GA-90' devices sold to the police and other institutions), it is possible to listen to phone calls(man in the middle attack), by just 'emulating' the strongest phone-cell in the area, to which the device connects instead of connecting to the provider's cell.
I also read that it would be possible to find out if there was an imsi-catcher device active in the area near you or not. The only thing needed is a special monitor software (field test?) that observes the MNC(Mobile Network Codes) behavior(appearently you need 2 handy's from the same provider with the monitoring software running).
But they didn't explain exactly on which behavior you should pay attention.
Since I could use 2 windows mobile devices to test this out, I am searching for more detailled information on this subject, and the first place that came in my mind was xda-developers
I allready did search this forum for the subject imsi catcher, and the only thing I've found is this.
google result
so one person who tries to change hies imei number, and another one who doesn't seem to know exactly what an imsi catcher can do.
Is here anyone who knows more?
I know that where I live, there are pple who make abuse with IMSI-catchers(catching calls without the permission from a judge or similar, or even one time someone listening to his girlfriends phone calls to see if she's cheating(and she did and that was the reason he left her))And yes this one was a young policeman who told that to his friends and even was proud of it.
I also dislike the fact that the handy, instead of the encrypted one with the provider's cell, has an non encrypted connection to the imsi catcher(if not there would be no possibility for a listening man in the middle attack).
I also read about the cellphones from http://www.cryptophone.de/
Appearently they do allways have encrypted conversations even through an Imsi-catcher. But if that would be true, the other side will need the same handy to decrypt it again. Because it has to encrypt, the allready encrypted data traffic with the provider's cell, if not it can't allow any protection against IMSI -Catcher devices. I also ask myself if, depending on where u want to use it, the 2nd encryption could produce a to huge phone traffic that could result p.ex. in a robot voice...
Anyone who could light me up?
Or is there any software able of reencrypting the encrypted transfer on windows mobile devices?technically it should be possible(2nd phone dialer installed so you choose the normal one for normal calls and 2nd one for calls with pple who also have this software installed on their phones)perhaps not with an 256 bit encryption but perhaps with a 128 or 64 bit encryption...
BTW, if there would be anyone able to programm such a hot piece of software for windows mobile devices I wouldn't have any problem to donate him with paypal, and i suppose other pple would do the sameAnd no I don't wanna replace that by Voip or skype via HTC...
Thanks in advance
Patrick
So no one who knows more about this?
I would be very happy if i could at least test if they're really used that often as they say they are(where i live).
And since i could try it in different major 'cities' over here, i suppose catching a imsi catcher soon or later
I'm quite curios if all the pple, telling that there is a lot of abuse with these machines, are right, or if that's all nonsens...
It would be nice if a warning icon could be integrated into Windows Mobile or the dialer to indicate that a call is not being encrypted. Read the Wikipedia entry for IMSI-catcher for more info. I'm guessing CDMA is largely unaffected since the hole seems to rely on the UMTS spec's backward-compatibility with GSM.
I'd also like to note that Skype is the way to go for true endpoint to endpoint call encryption. You know, if you're a gangster or something and need to brush off the popos. It would be interesting to investigate whether the WM6 integrated VOIP stack requires authentication/encryption.
Hello,
I am new to the forum and also the owner of an HTC Fuze. I have been playing around recently with the GPS on the phone and got me thinking. I live in NY and we have a CORS network of gps base stations that are fed by the use of ntrip.
I was wondering if their was any way to use the gps signal on my phone and the connection to this CORS network to give me sub inch accuracy on my phone...then not sure what I would do with it then. But I do live on a farm and I would like to see some type of precision agricultural use.
I guess I need a way to have the GPS on the phone talk with the GNSS internet radio and then give me spot on guidance and such.
Please let me know your thoughts or if I need to explain better.
Thanks,
Clayton
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Great idea cwrisrey !
That will save the cost of a geodetic device, which is many times the cost of a Fuze. Further, it will lead the accuracy of the buildin GPS into millimum class.
Not dig into this further, would you go further to tell these:
Is that CORS data encrypted?
Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
Once again, great idea. Please do remember to update this thread once you got any progress. Thanks.
More info
Hello wg5566,
This site would probably answer alot of your questions clearer than I could:
http://www6.nysdot.gov/spiderweb/frmIndex.aspx
* Is that CORS data encrypted?
-I don't believe so, I think that it is just a form of compression, to distribute across the internet.
* Is that accessible through public internet or VPN?
Yes, the NYS CORS anyway. It accessible from the public internet (although they require you to register with them) But I believe there are other free streams. I also believe it was modeled after being able to be sent threw GPRS.
* Is there copy right or intellectuall property right issue involved? (I don't think so, but better make it clear first)
-I believe the ntrip is based on a GNU, I think the source code is available. http://igs.bkg.bund.de/index_ntrip_down.htm
Windows CE version:
http://www.ilmb.gov.bc.ca/crgb/gsr/downloads/installGNSS.CAB
Please, let me know your thoughts...
Thanks,
Clayton
My fast thoughts:
First make sure there is no satisfied freeware currently available for WM.
If so please ask a moderator to move this to the development & hackings section. And Add tyis sentence on the title: Call for developers for revolutionary GPS app!
I'm sure somebody here can develop this. You know the geodetic device was invented many years ago with very weak profiles comparing to current WM devices. The hardware on our phone should be capable to deal with these calculations, and the WM Pro platform should be capable to support such an app. Anyway it should not be a biggy for many masters here. But it is a biggy for gps users with high accuracy demand for any reason.
Edit: Did you try install that wince cab on your phone? I think some of WINCE apps can just run on WM. Please backup your data first.
Edit2: I tried to install it on my device, at first it did not show up in start menu, then I found the cab just put files and shortcut in the folder names in French. But there is no registry involved in the cab. Only three files. And then program UI itself is in English. Just run the executable from the folder will go right out of the box. So please try it. I did not try to connect & loggin yet, due to not registered account.
Edit3: Looks like the cab is only access the data from internet, convert the data format and export the data, but we still need a geodetic/gps software to process/use the data.
Disclaimer: I attatched these three files for the only purppose of exchanging software developement infomation. Anybody if download it please do not use it for any purppose other than this. Thanx.
Some thoughts on the subject
Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any software capable of doing this. My idea is that it should be possible to accomplish this goal, using a combination of existing tools (which would be really cool!).
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: http://lefebure.com/software/).
More searching revealed a (dead?) project on codeplex: SharpGPS. It's an unfinished demo. It does however seem to be designed to do exactly what we're suggesting in this thread.
My idea: Completing the WM version of SharpGPS with parts of GNSS Internet radio / lefebure NTRIP client should result in a tool that's capable of upgrading a WM devices' gps signal to sub-meter accuracy through RTK/DGPS corrections over NTRIP.
Any ideas / suggestions about this?
It's already been done for the commercial market
Land surveyors, construction companies, and farmers use RTK GPS and RTK GNSS correction services on a regular basis. Some are free and some are paid subscription. They can be either NTRIP protocol with casters or individual TCP or UDP connections. Examples of software available are Carlson SurvCE and MicroSurvey. Read Carlson's support site for how they deal with the data flow using such networks on SurvCE (Windows Mobile and CE).
I have worked in land surveying using such equipment, and it generally requires dual frequency receivers, RTK corrections, and high quality antennas to achieve 1-2cm 95% CI horizontal precision. The current GPS chips in cell phones are only single frequency and so the best you could expect under ideal conditions is 2'-3' precision using some form of differential correction like WAAS or beacon or DGPS via NTRIP. Under average conditions, the precision will likely be in the 10-20' range. The dual frequency receivers take care of the large errors caused by radio waves traveling through the ionosphere.
Due to the limitations of batteries, antennas, and space for more chips in cellphones, the future of location accuracy will likely include some combination of GPS/GLONASS and cellular radio signal frequency timing calculations from cell towers. True Position, with its U-TDOA technology, is one example of measuring the time differences of cell phone radio waves using cell towers with known coordinates. Rumors (from surveying journals) have it that there are current patents in place that can allow for sub foot precision using such methods when sufficient cell towers are present for multilateration.
Has anyone found success on this topic? WM or Android...
Would be very interested, since there is a free NTRIP feed available in Switzerland... anyone?
*bump* it up
Been there still trying. Problem is no carrier phase off internal gps.
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Hi All,
The idea of using NTRIP to make a Windows Mobile GPS device sub-meter accurate crossed my mind. After some research I found this thread.
As wg5566 notes, there is a (WM) tool called GNSS Internet Radio, which is capable of downloading NTRIP corrections. It turns out this software works, but does have some flaws. Someone wrote another open source tool which is better (?), but unfortunately it isn't built for Windows Mobile (see: /lefebure.com/software/).
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Lance lefebure is a really cool guy I'm sure he wouldn't have any problem building a wm version but it is going to takea lot more than that to get rtk to a cell phone.
Very good ,thanks.
Ed hardy bikini said:
Very good ,thanks.
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If you are confused just ask questions and I will do my best to answer them. I am in the ag industry and deal with RTK networks and different ways of connecting them and tons of different gps units on a daily basis.
Look at this:
http://stakemill.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/ashtech-mobile-mapper-100-supports-esri-arcpad-10-0/
and this:
http://www.ashtech.com/-2359.kjsp?RH=1272644205746&RF=1270806507068
Is that still a phone !?
wg5566 said:
Look at this:
Is that still a phone !?
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Nope PDA with support for external GPS with a builtin reciever that even sees glonass satellites (russian constelation). That was made specifically to do RTK mapping. It does have a GSM radio for data to connect to the cors.
Phone positioning using CORS
To perform a CORS (Network Reference correction we need a GGA stream from the GPS in your device. This allows us to remove the anomalies and provde the correction stream. As phones use a sirf II chip or similar they do not have input capability to output the NMEA stream to achieve this.
This one works great! it will connect to an Rtk receiver and get the nmea string from it or will use the internal GPS to be able to register on the CORS network. It will then stream the corrections over Bluetooth to a receiver or even a repeater radio. It won't however correct the internal GPS. http://antrip.dyndns.biz/Home/DownloadTrial
So... I'm rather new here and I'm not 100% sure that this is the correct forum to post this in (since I know it says "xda developed apps/games only"). However, I have seen commercial Android apps discussed here before... so... *shrug*.
Let me first say that I am not the developer... I just think this app should get some attention.
Pixie Network Monitor by 9bitlabs (would post a link but my account is restricted. ;-) )
It is a network monitoring app similar to Wireshark, but for Android. It is $4.99 on the Android market, it requires root, and it does not work on all phones (since not all phones can have their wifi put into promiscuous mode). There is a companion app called "Pixie Probe" available on the market for free. Pixie Probe will determine whether or not your phone is compatible with Pixie.
I have tested it out on my Evo (running CM6.1 RC1) and it seems to work amazingly well.
Pixie does not contain all of the features of Wireshark/Kismet. This is from the Pixie FAQ:
Q: What's the difference between Pixie and a desktop tool like Kismet?
A: The biggest difference between the tools lies in how they interface with the network. Kismet interacts directly with the wireless adapter and places it in monitor mode, allowing it to hear any packet over the wifi, even if it is not associated with a network. This can be problematic with some hardware, but many of the newer wifi chipsets work great with Kismet.
Pixie, on the other hand, is constrained by Android. Rather than expose the wifi adapter as an 802.11b device, Android actually hides all of that functionality: the wifi connection actually appears to system processes as a plain old Ethernet device. This means that we don't get monitor mode and we also don't get to see wifi-specific data, such as beacons and associate/disassociate packets.
On the plus side, Pixie runs in your pocket and that's harder to do with Kismet, unless you have very large pockets. Pixie is also significantly easier to set up for folks without Linux experience.
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The Pixie website gives very detailed information about the app, so I suggest you go there if you want more info.
In any case, I hope other people find it useful.
I see alot of threads around xda requesting miscellaneous apps or ports. I have written down a lot of my ideas and I'm not quite to the stage where I can make them myself, and I'm sure a few others are in the same boat. I don't see much of a point to keeping them a secret when there are alot of capable developers around here. If there are developers out there with free time that see a cool idea in this thread, try to give a mention to the person if you create the app!
3rd party app toggle
Just an app similar to adb toggle, that quickly toggles on 3rd party app installs. It's not secure to leave it on all the time, and for people with settings locked it can cut the time taken to install a 3rd party app. If you're an overachiever try toggling all app installs, not just 3rd party.
Password Scanner
Basically an app that just scans /data for SQLite entries and lists items associated with password fields. Plaintext is enough to make it useful for a lot of people, with options of a pro-version that cracks encrypted passwords.
Car Remote
This is the most challenging one I've thought of. It's an app that uses the device's radio antennas to unlock cars that have remote control locks. I've looked into it and the encryption looks tough to break, but if you're a genius you can probably figure something out. Here's something to get started: auto.howstuffworks.com/remote-entry.htm
Time Machine
I thought of this while reading en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
A mod/app that messes with the clock to cause app compatibility issues, which could enable potential root exploits on devices which don't have current root methods. This one is risky because it is likely it result in bricks (yet another use if you want a device to be bricked in the event of a theft). I'm unsure if something like this would need root access to work.
Share your ideas! My apologies if any of these have been thought of, it wouldn't be the first time I've rethought the wheel.
Wow, some nice ideas there! 3D party app can be a popular one. I also like the car remote app idea, but will it be helpful?
Found this video on a PDA for the car remote, it used infrared though..
Time machine looks interesting but can it be realized !
A port for ADOBE PHOTOSHOP CS6 for Android..!
It will be a big boon for GFX Designers like me..!
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Lol btw those days aren't far
nikufellow said:
Lol btw those days aren't far
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But urs is...
How can a app be a time machine.. xD
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If you sir are able to do something about the 2038 problem then you are getting some world recognition for sure .
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A port for ADOBE PHOTOSHOP CS6 for Android..!
It will be a big boon for GFX Designers like me..!
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oh don't let me get started on the list of ports I want haha. Top 3 would probably be cain & abel, cisco packet tracer, and something like encase.
cs6 is would be nice for sure though, adobe is really slacking with their tablet app. I see something like gimp coming before photoshop due to it's source being more available.
i would really like something like frozen synapse on a phone i think it would work really well.
Make an android rom for the samsung brightside instead of its Brew, and you give 50 thousand people a boner...
its the only smart-ish phone that can be used on verizon without upgrading to the smart phone plan.
if it gets a rom,you have a verizon phone and dont pay the bastards the smart phone fees
I would love a hearing aid app to control the different settings.
Would be amazing!
Car remote app will never work as each car uses some sort of encryption and frequency to unlock the door while the phone antennae can only transmit on 2G/3G/4G frequency bands.
hsalps said:
Car remote app will never work as each car uses some sort of encryption and frequency to unlock the door while the phone antennae can only transmit on 2G/3G/4G frequency bands.
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and bluetooth, and wifi, and gps. There are a number of antennas in each phone. The one in the video I posted managed it with infrared.
I think car remotes work on the 400-500mhz spectrum so it will take some research to how compatible it could be with most phones, and that's not even exploring dongles.
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and bluetooth, and wifi, and gps. There are a number of antennas in each phone. The one in the video I posted managed it with infrared.
I think car remotes work on the 400-500mhz spectrum so it will take some research to how compatible it could be with most phones, and that's not even exploring dongles.
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My Nissan Altima Remote operates on 315Mhz whereas
Bluetooth operates on 2400–2480 MHz
GPS operates on 1575.42 & 1227.60 Mhz
Wifi operates on 2.4, 3.6 and 5 GHz
IR operates on 33 to 40 kHz or 50 to 60 kHz
All these antennae are not capable to transmit in any frequency band, they have been hardwired to operate on a particular band to save money and be power efficient.
Create a 'Date' contact ?
G'Day Guys
I have been searching for an app. now for a few years & have not been able to find one that 'fits the bill'
When I get a phone call from a new contact ( so not currently in the contact list )
Create the contact with the name as date eg. DD MM YYYY & mark it as blocked
Anyone know if an app. exists that can do this ?
or
Anyone interested in deving this app. for me ?
BTW - I have 40+ years experience programming in Assembler, C, Basic etc. & I built Palm apps. in C & built a couple of droid apps approx. 5 years ago with Phone Gap. Buy, not wanting to have to setup the environment for a simple droid app. dev.
There's a new mobile framework coming in April (hypelabs.io), that allows any developer to build apps that can communicate even without internet. This is what the framework does:
Automatically creates cross-platform (Android2iOS, Android2WP & Android2Android) peer-to-peer mesh networks with nearby devices using any available transport channel (Bluetooth Low Energy, Bluetooth Classic, Wi-Fi Direct and Infrastructural wi-Fi) basing it's decisions on real-time network-data;
Data multiplexing: intelligently segments data packages into sub-packages and sends them through different paths on the network and different transport channels, making connections faster, more secure and ensuring deliverability;
Encrypts data and protects it against network attacks;
Is power-sensitive, choosing transport channels that require less power whenever possible;
Can have cloud integration, intelligently managing connections between local mesh networks and the internet (and can help offload local networks);
Every different app is connected and helps building the same mesh network, but can't communicate with each other;
Can be integrated into any existing app or project in a few minutes (and removed, in case you don't like it);
It's free, but not open-source (at least right now).
The Android version of the framework is coming in a few weeks, together with the iOS one, and the Windows 10 (mobile and desktop) version is coming in the future.
My question is, giving all these capabilities what use cases do you see for this type of technology? Right now there are apps testing the framework for messaging (the #1 use case that generally comes to everyone mind), real-time collaboration and file sharing, gaming, social networking, dating, and others using it to build mobile "ethernets" for enterprise solution. What would you use it for?