Reverting back to ICS? - HTC One S

Hey.
I'm on Orange in the UK and recently got promteped to download the new Jellybean software. I'm not a rooted user and don't really want to go down that root.
The new firmware has made my device laggy, the home and back buttons now have a slight lag when I press them and the keyboard is absolutely shocking when I type. I'm on whatsapp pretty much all day and its now making me have loads of mistakes when I type which I didn't before.
I've installed the keyboard app that everyone highly rates, Swiftkey I think it's called but it's still laggy.
I've deleted the keyboard data and restarted the phones loads of times and it's still there.
Basically I just want to go back to how it was before, is there a way I can without having to delete all apps and start my phone again or without having the phone rooted?
Cheers for any helpful replies.
Dan.

dann2707 said:
Hey.
I'm on Orange in the UK and recently got promteped to download the new Jellybean software. I'm not a rooted user and don't really want to go down that root.
The new firmware has made my device laggy, the home and back buttons now have a slight lag when I press them and the keyboard is absolutely shocking when I type. I'm on whatsapp pretty much all day and its now making me have loads of mistakes when I type which I didn't before.
I've installed the keyboard app that everyone highly rates, Swiftkey I think it's called but it's still laggy.
I've deleted the keyboard data and restarted the phones loads of times and it's still there.
Basically I just want to go back to how it was before, is there a way I can without having to delete all apps and start my phone again or without having the phone rooted?
Cheers for any helpful replies.
Dan.
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If you used ota update to jelly bean, I'm afraid the only way to get to ICS is to get rooted.
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Does OTA stand for over the air? If so, then yes I did it over wifi when the notification popped up the other day.
I ended up bricking my Samsung Galaxy S last tiem I tried rooting and i'm not really in a situation where I'd like to try it again. Pretty heavily reliant on my phone lately.

dann2707 said:
Does OTA stand for over the air? If so, then yes I did it over wifi when the notification popped up the other day.
I ended up bricking my Samsung Galaxy S last tiem I tried rooting and i'm not really in a situation where I'd like to try it again. Pretty heavily reliant on my phone lately.
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It seems strange that your phone would be laggy from an actual OTA update. Swiftkey is a great keyboard and is my preferred one actually.
As far as your problem. You might be able to factory reset your phone via the bootloader. However, it may reset to the latest update and not actual factory version. I'm not sure. This would delete your apps and all that though.

joviansky said:
It seems strange that your phone would be laggy from an actual OTA update. Swiftkey is a great keyboard and is my preferred one actually.
As far as your problem. You might be able to factory reset your phone via the bootloader. However, it may reset to the latest update and not actual factory version. I'm not sure. This would delete your apps and all that though.
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He's phone is not rooted, so he's phones bootloader is locked.
Just maybe give a JB a few days. I think that is really good. Or it is not worse then ICS IMO.
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I have just checked my internal data and I am right on the limit, I've noticed before that has caused lots of lag.
Currently transferring 2.5gb of photos back to my computer to free up some space and see if makes any difference :good:
Will get back to you. Thanks.

Nope. Made no difference. Looks like i'll just have to suffer!

Yes the only other solution for you involves rooting. It is possible to go back to ICS by rooting your phone, going through a bootloader downgrade, hexediting a particular partition, then running an older compatible RUU... Its all possible, but requires some time to understand and do. And definately requires a few wipes of phone data in the mean time (which can be backed up through titanium and custom recoveries).

Thanks for a detailed reply.
Really frustrating as it's supposed to make things better but in turn has pretty much ruined my previously quite enjoyable experience with the phone! Nice one HTC haha.
This might sound stupid, i'm not really in the know, but if I rang Orange / HTC, would they be able to supply me the older update over the air?

AKToronto said:
Yes the only other solution for you involves rooting. It is possible to go back to ICS by rooting your phone, going through a bootloader downgrade, hexediting a particular partition, then running an older compatible RUU... Its all possible, but requires some time to understand and do. And definately requires a few wipes of phone data in the mean time (which can be backed up through titanium and custom recoveries).
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Only need to do that if you want to downgrade hboot. All you have to do is root and flash a rom, I have JB radio and hboot and run ICS Trickdroid 8.1.0.

Yes I was talking about a full downgrade including older firmware. Shadow is correct that you can still run ICS ROMs on JB firmware. That still requires you to root your phone,etc. But it's not that hard to just flash an ICS Rom and corresponding kernel if jb is not your cup of tea. I too have some firmware from JB, such as radio and wifi but am on viper 1.2.1 now. But a full rollback as I explained can be done, but is more technical.
But its all about rooting your phone! Do it anyways! Its fun! The world without a warranty can be scary at first, but also liberating.
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Sudden issues with my phone

I've had this phone since the day it released and generally had no problems with it. But a couple months ago, I started having issues with the home screen loading the icons up every time I went to home. Random reboots for no reason, too. I read that it seemed to be a common issues for the phone, so I thought I'd wait for Gingerbread. But today the phone wasn't begin responsive when I tried to text, so I tried rebooting and now it's stuck on the endless reboot. It seems the only way to stop this is to get it to factory reset itself, but I'm hoping I don't have to do that because the phone did a factory reset by itself a month ago and I don't want to deal with starting over again. Is there another trick to it?
Maybe I'm better off getting it replaced. Are the newer models free of all these glitches or is it all still more or less a crapshoot with the problems I've had, screen bleeding, ect?
Just so it's out there, I rooted my phone with SuperOneClick, but I didn't flash or install any roms.
yea i would sumtimes u just get a bad phone when u flash it!! but i'd try another rom and see what that does!!!
But I never flashed it to begin with. It this happened 6 moths after already having the phone.
But if I can fix it by flashing it, maybe I'll try that. I've been wanting to try that cyanogenmod since it's lookign better than my stock froyo.
Yea I would flash it b4 tryin a new1...n if that doesn't wrk then u no what to do
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If I flash it, is my phone going to reset itself anyway? Totally new to this.
yup thats y i always flash lol
If you have Clockworkmod Recovery try to just clear the Dalvik Cache. Reboot loops are usually Dalvik Cache issues. The first boot after clearing the cache can take around 5 minutes so be patient.
I went ahead and factory reset it, since I have never flashed it or have any of those apps. If I decide to look into installing Cyanogenmon on my phone, where should I start reading to get all the information to learn how to do it? I've rooted my phone, but that's it. I've stuck to pretty much what was on the phone.
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I went ahead and factory reset it, since I have never flashed it or have any of those apps. If I decide to look into installing Cyanogenmon on my phone, where should I start reading to get all the information to learn how to do it? I've rooted my phone, but that's it. I've stuck to pretty much what was on the phone.
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If you rooted it, that means you installed Clockworkmod Recovery. To install CM7 you download the zip package, go into recovery, do a factory reset and wipe the dalvik cache, format the system and flash the zip you got from CM.
I rooted it in Superoneclick though, I don't know if I have Clockworkmod recorvery, unless it's not supposed to show up in the app tray like Superuser does.
Isn't there a way to backup my current state on my phone so I keep all my settings in place? I'll probably get into this tomorrow after work.
Check out tgagunmans nvflash method to get cwm 5.0.2.0 on your phone in dev section.
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Alright, now it's really ****ing up and pissing me off. I haven't done anything new to it. I was browsing the Market today and now I see that the home button doesn't work at all, I can't snap any pictures, there's no screen lock screen, I can't even change it to airplane mode when holding power, it only gives me the off option. What happened to this thing?
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Alright, now it's really ****ing up and pissing me off. I haven't done anything new to it. I was browsing the Market today and now I see that the home button doesn't work at all, I can't snap any pictures, there's no screen lock screen, I can't even change it to airplane mode when holding power, it only gives me the off option. What happened to this thing?
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Have you loaded a lot of apps that autorun when you turn on the phone? Many do and you could be unaware of that. If too many apps are running, or a badly programmed app is running, it can cause issues such as this with your phone.
Also, it sounds like you are still on Froyo with the old baseband. You might want to consider factory resetting it again and running the LG Updater to get GB and the new baseband. Then use the One Click Flasher to install Clockwordmod so you can do backups (basically snapshots of the current state of your device) and then you can play around with alternate roms.
if that doesn't fix it then your device is defective. If you have a warranty you might just want to get a swap going on it.
Yeah, I'm still stuck on Froyo. Is the LG Updater working now? Last I read, it was bricking phones. If it works now, I'm guessing my plan should be:
Factory reset
Use LG Updater
Use One Click Flasher to Install Clockworkmod
Install a rom (Cyanogenmod)
Alot of this terminology is totally new to me, so I'm totally lost reading these tutorials that seem to rely on knowing what these terms mean.
Anyway, would be nice to get rid of all these errors. I can't even install anything from the marketplace anymore, I get a force close.
Alright, tooling around on Cyanogenmod 7 now. I don't like that it doesn't have the LG camera or Swype, so I switched to Weapon G2X. Liking it. Any other recommendations?
Weapon G2x is awesome i keep coming back to it my self.... but for the record i've only owned my phone for about a month and i havn't had any problems at all with i love actually .. i just can't find a kernel that doesn't mess things up back on subject i pretty sure GB took care of most of the problems people were having with the phone i don't know if they did any hardware updates to the newer models
Yeah, it's great. The only issue I have is that Swype doesn't give me a list of alternatives when I double tap a word, so I need to re-Swype the word "if" when it was supposed to be the word "of".
Last question, Can I make multiple backups with Flashworkmod? Now that I've fully set up all my phone, apps and fully configured all my settings, I wanted to back it up to this point so my personalized settings are still accessible. Or is it only one backup?
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Yeah, it's great. The only issue I have is that Swype doesn't give me a list of alternatives when I double tap a word, so I need to re-Swype the word "if" when it was supposed to be the word "of".
Last question, Can I make multiple backups with Flashworkmod? Now that I've fully set up all my phone, apps and fully configured all my settings, I wanted to back it up to this point so my personalized settings are still accessible. Or is it only one backup?
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Do you mean Clockworkmod Recovery? The backups are coded by date and time so you can make as many as you want. Consider each one a snapshot of the exact state of the device at the time you made the backup. It will be restored exactly the same.
Yeah, whoops. Clockworkmod Recovery. Thanks for the help!
jboxer said:
Do you mean Clockworkmod Recovery? The backups are coded by date and time so you can make as many as you want. Consider each one a snapshot of the exact state of the device at the time you made the backup. It will be restored exactly the same.
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Should I be deleting old back ups how much memory does each back up take?
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A Little Lost - Help? Root/Unlock Status

Hi,
Sorry I've been away for a few weeks. I used to follow these threads like a hawk but I just got too busy with a huge dev project that ate my life like they can sometimes do... I read through threads about rooting 1.85 and unlocking...But I'm just confused. Sorry if this is redundant but...
I'm currently on 1.74 (if I'm reading that right, 1.73.502.1 710RD ... oddly enough I tried to update but it didn't let me... assuming that annoying message I kept declining for days was the 1.85 update).
Now I could go to check for updates again but I'm not. I figured I better ask around and see what the best course of action is.
I rooted a while ago when it was first available. So I have root.
So that's where I'm at. Now, my question is what's the best course of action?
Am I not able to update OTA to 1.85? Because I already rooted?
If I can check for updates and get the update, will it remove my root?
The last post in the 1.85 root thread says that they may have fixed their servers to avoid rooting 1.85??
Can I just now unlock my phone and flash ROMs? and not worry about carrier updates?
Is there anything I'm missing with the 1.85 update? That I couldn't get elsewhere?
I may or may not flash a ROM. I just don't want to be prevented from doing so if I want. HTC's Sense is not crashing like it used to, so I have no major need to flash a ROM yet... Improved performance would be the only reason. Maybe some development reasons as well.
Opinions?
Thanks much. I appreciate the help.
crap this isnt under general is it...
tom_m said:
crap this isnt under general is it...
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Haha no it's not. Also, it should be under Q&A.
You can go ahead and unlock and flash a custom rom. There's no need to get the OTA (which would most likely make you go through the rooting process again). Since your'e already rooted pre-1.85 you can flash a rom and guarantee that you'll retain your root status.
:laugh: Suffer the wrath of trolls.
Nah, I would download the 1.85 firmware update RUU [ran from your computer to install instead of OTA] and root [SOON] or root / unlock bootloader / install custom recovery then flash a new rom. First idea for a rom would be CleanROM. If all you want is root status, I would start there because It gives you basically a clean slate with bloatware removed and some minor tweaks I believe. Otherwise you could use CM9 or one of the few other roms that you may like. Personally I get the best performance out of KingCobra's rom. So idk :b
Gotta add my two sense for unlock and flashing Sick Sense. Very smooth.
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Thanks guys, sorry again for misplacing this post.
I think I might browse the ROMs then. I didn't realize there were already so many options. I thought the 1.85 update may improve my issues with the signal being lost...I have to turn on airplane mode and off again to reconnect to their network despite the 4G (and sometimes LTE) icons showing up the whole time...But I'm just thinking I'm unfortunate in that my apartment has poor signal. Though my wife's iPhone works just fine...Oh well.
Thanks again. Time to check out some ROMs. I definitely don't want to grab some update and get locked out of it all.
my vote goes to scott standard clean rom! it has eqs, and a couple other little tweaks, that way u can add whatever u want!
tom_m said:
Thanks guys, sorry again for misplacing this post.
I think I might browse the ROMs then. I didn't realize there were already so many options. I thought the 1.85 update may improve my issues with the signal being lost...I have to turn on airplane mode and off again to reconnect to their network despite the 4G (and sometimes LTE) icons showing up the whole time...But I'm just thinking I'm unfortunate in that my apartment has poor signal. Though my wife's iPhone works just fine...Oh well.
Thanks again. Time to check out some ROMs. I definitely don't want to grab some update and get locked out of it all.
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I have had the same issues with data and have had my phone swapped twice because of it and the 1.85 update nor any of the other radios has made any difference so I would just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery and then rom of choice.
tom_m said:
Thanks guys, sorry again for misplacing this post.
I think I might browse the ROMs then. I didn't realize there were already so many options. I thought the 1.85 update may improve my issues with the signal being lost...I have to turn on airplane mode and off again to reconnect to their network despite the 4G (and sometimes LTE) icons showing up the whole time...But I'm just thinking I'm unfortunate in that my apartment has poor signal. Though my wife's iPhone works just fine...Oh well.
Thanks again. Time to check out some ROMs. I definitely don't want to grab some update and get locked out of it all.
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There is a new radio that should fix that stuff. Lemme find it. Here ya go. the latest ATT at the bottom. ATT 2.09 (0.17a.32.09.24_2_10.91.32.19L http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
This should help wifi and mobile data. I also replaced a phone because of the mobile data issues. New phone did it also. Once i installed 1.88 ruu it was all fixed. You dont have to install the ruu now. Just pick your favorite custom rom and then flash this radio. The radio from 1.88 fixes it also but its from an asia ruu,. This new ATT radio is promising, i'd go with that.. Thank Designgears for that leak
Clean rom is good. Sick Sense as well as King Cobra. I'm rockin the new king cobra 1.2 and its pretty amazing. Any of these roms will be much much much better than stock. Tons of great mods, Speed and stability is great with all of them. You will think your CPU speed doubled..No lies! Install Titanium Backup (purchase it) and back up all of your apps. If you get the paid version, you can restore them all to your new rom 1 touch. The free version you have to do each app 1 at a time.
Edit. Of course you are rooted. But did you unlock the BL through HTC Dev also? If you mentioned it i must have missed it. If not you need to do that first.
nugzo said:
There is a new radio that should fix that stuff. Lemme find it. Here ya go. the latest ATT at the bottom. ATT 2.09 (0.17a.32.09.24_2_10.91.32.19L http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
This should help wifi and mobile data. I also replaced a phone because of the mobile data issues. New phone did it also. Once i installed 1.88 ruu it was all fixed. You dont have to install the ruu now. Just pick your favorite custom rom and then flash this radio. The radio from 1.88 fixes it also but its from an asia ruu,. This new ATT radio is promising, i'd go with that.. Thank Designgears for that leak
Clean rom is good. Sick Sense as well as King Cobra. I'm rockin the new king cobra 1.2 and its pretty amazing. Any of these roms will be much much much better than stock. Tons of great mods, Speed and stability is great with all of them. You will think your CPU speed doubled..No lies! Install Titanium Backup (purchase it) and back up all of your apps. If you get the paid version, you can restore them all to your new rom 1 touch. The free version you have to do each app 1 at a time.
Edit. Of course you are rooted. But did you unlock the BL through HTC Dev also? If you mentioned it i must have missed it. If not you need to do that first.
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I still have data issues even with the leaked radios.
Tiffany84 said:
I still have data issues even with the leaked radios.
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What kind of issues? :crying: the same as before? they completely went away for me.:fingers-crossed: Have you seen anybody else still having issues with 1.88 or newer? Maybe you actually have bad hardware..coincidences happen.. I'd swap again if the new radios are working for most others. You paid to much for that phone for it to be poopoo.
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What kind of issues? :crying: the same as before? they completely went away for me.:fingers-crossed: Have you seen anybody else still having issues with 1.88 or newer? Maybe you actually have bad hardware..coincidences happen.. I'd swap again if the new radios are working for most others. You paid to much for that phone for it to be poopoo.
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Well, I've swapped it 3 times now. The first one I do not remember having that problem. Not saying it didn't but I can't remember. I returned it due to random reboots. Other than that the 1st one was flawless. Ever since then the phones I've received and have swapped have an issue where if I got into work where I have a hard time getting a signal the phone doesn't automatically re-connect when I go outside and have great signal. Even though it shows I have 4g and full bars if you look in the settings menu at mobile network it says turning on instead of connected and the only way to be able to make or receive phone calls or text messages is either toggle airplane mode or reboot the phone. Problem now is I'm past my thirty days so it would probably have to be done threw the warranty and not an in store swap.

ANY way to keep root when updating to 23.4.A.0.546?

So my phone is now prompting me to update (and I can't even tell it to got to hell like I could on my S4 Mini ) but I refuse to do so until I know I can keep my root intact (or until Kingroot becomes capable of rooting that version).
Is there ANY way of keeping my root intact? Maybe by using the PC companion to update (this used to work before ICS didn't it?)? Or doing something to the phone (besides flashing firmware) to preserve the root ahead of the update?
I don't want to be installing a custom rom (and yes, I still count generic stock as a custom rom because it would get onto my phone just like any other custom rom) just to update and I absolutely need root for Link2SD so if I can't keep root in some way and Kingroot doesn't catch up then I'm going to stay on my current version forever, security be damned.
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So my phone is now prompting me to update (and I can't even tell it to got to hell like I could on my S4 Mini ) but I refuse to do so until I know I can keep my root intact (or until Kingroot becomes capable of rooting that version).
Is there ANY way of keeping my root intact? Maybe by using the PC companion to update (this used to work before ICS didn't it?)? Or doing something to the phone (besides flashing firmware) to preserve the root ahead of the update?
I don't want to be installing a custom rom (and yes, I still count generic stock as a custom rom because it would get onto my phone just like any other custom rom) just to update and I absolutely need root for Link2SD so if I can't keep root in some way and Kingroot doesn't catch up then I'm going to stay on my current version forever, security be damned.
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No. You can make prerooted 546 and flash it in recovery and it's only way how to retain root. As soon as you update using OTA you will loose root as system will be overwritten.
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Thanks, guess I'm waiting then.
Any way to temporarily disable the update message/get it out of my notification bar?
SCHUMI_4EVER said:
Thanks, guess I'm waiting then.
Any way to temporarily disable the update message/get it out of my notification bar?
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Maybe you can disable the Software Update app in settings...
By the way, however it`s your decision, I don`t understand reasons behind why not flashing latest software with Flashtool. There are sometimes nasty issues with upgrades, like people loosing LTE with OTA upgrades to 5.1.1 and so on. I would just backup everything and flash latest .570/.580 firmware (yes, even .546 is now getting outdated as upgrade to .580 becomes available to address MMS based vulnerabilities). Flashing software in flashmode is the same like flashing it through PC Companion and provides for clean way how to do system updates. You can even download version intended directly for your market/provider instead of generic one.
Flash the pre-rooted .546 zip. It has been posted weeks ago.
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Maybe you can disable the Software Update app in settings...
By the way, however it`s your decision, I don`t understand reasons behind why not flashing latest software with Flashtool. There are sometimes nasty issues with upgrades, like people loosing LTE with OTA upgrades to 5.1.1 and so on. I would just backup everything and flash latest .570/.580 firmware (yes, even .546 is now getting outdated as upgrade to .580 becomes available to address MMS based vulnerabilities). Flashing software in flashmode is the same like flashing it through PC Companion and provides for clean way how to do system updates. You can even download version intended directly for your market/provider instead of generic one.
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Because the phone isn't even two weeks old. Nowhere near time yet to risk bricking it doing non-standard things, I've already tested my luck enough by rooting it. And my region doesn't have 580 yet anyways. The inability to remove the battery makes me even more nervous about this sort of stuff, and yes I know there is a simulated battery pull, but that's still software and software gets fudged up which is the whole reason to actually physically remove the battery from your phone.
Not gonna happen thank you very much. Besides I'm never in a hurry with updating Android, it's always 2 steps forward one step back, never an all-round improvement. Some monkey of a programmer inevitably always rips out some base function every device should have, just look at ICS and the mess it's caused by choosing to ignore SD cards. Even Lollipop lacks things prior Android versions had for utterly no reason. Stagefright can kiss my you know what. Not gonna update till I can root with the click of a button avoiding almost all risk (in my mind anyways).
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Because the phone isn't even two weeks old. Nowhere near time yet to risk bricking it doing non-standard things, I've already tested my luck enough by rooting it. And my region doesn't have 580 yet anyways. The inability to remove the battery makes me even more nervous about this sort of stuff, and yes I know there is a simulated battery pull, but that's still software and software gets fudged up which is the whole reason to actually physically remove the battery from your phone.
Not gonna happen thank you very much. Besides I'm never in a hurry with updating Android, it's always 2 steps forward one step back, never an all-round improvement. Some monkey of a programmer inevitably always rips out some base function every device should have, just look at ICS and the mess it's caused by choosing to ignore SD cards. Even Lollipop lacks things prior Android versions had for utterly no reason. Stagefright can kiss my you know what. Not gonna update till I can root with the click of a button avoiding almost all risk (in my mind anyways).
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Well, seems you are new to XPERIA`s because there is hardly any way you can brick it. Battery pull is not a problem, because in addition to Power+VolUp reste, there is a push button hidden on the side of SIM card that triggers hard reset and switches the phone off.
But I aknowledge that you have your rights for your fears. However I wonder that with all your fears you would allow to install and run undocumented chinese app, that although roots your phone, may do other things and you will never know. Everyone is responsible for his own luck.
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Well, seems you are new to XPERIA`s because there is hardly any way you can brick it. Battery pull is not a problem, because in addition to Power+VolUp reste, there is a push button hidden on the side of SIM card that triggers hard reset and switches the phone off.
But I aknowledge that you have your rights for your fears. However I wonder that with all your fears you would allow to install and run undocumented chinese app, that although roots your phone, may do other things and you will never know. Everyone is responsible for his own luck.
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Yes and no. I had a neo but that was a very different device and I never felt the need to do anything custom to it (although I did check XDA for it) so it remains stock even today. Then I went to Samsung cuz everything Sony sucked at the time, at least in my price range. And now I'm back with Sony cuz there's something wrong with Samsung, dunno what, but I just don't like them so unless they're far ahead on paper I won't touch them again. (unless Sony tanks).
I didn't know about that button but I'd still rather not.
And I don't have anything sensitive on my phone so Kingroot can spy all it wants to. Of course I'd prefer it didn't, but if they absolutely have to then they're welcome to any and all info. Simply running an APK on my phone (that thousands have run before me) just seemed like the least brickable way of getting root (since I didn't have to do anything special like stuff up in the recovery or mess up an ADB command or anything like that). When I'd read about there being no root methods for 5.1.1 yet I erroneously took that to be all of Lollipop so I thought my phone was unrootable anyways when I turned it on and found it had lollipop (it was sealed so I thought it would still be on KitKat and easily rootable) so Kingroot was basically just a hail mary at the time. And since it worked so well I see no reason to ever do anything else.

Keep root or go marshmallow?

I am debating now if I shouldkeep the root or move to mmarshmallow. How smooth is marshmallow? Battery life? Does Hotspot still work?
I'd keep root.
My usb port started acting really wonky and after attempting everything I could think of, I decided to try the verizon repair assistant hoping that the 1% chance it would be a software issue. Unrooted, ran the repair assistant and next thing I know, my phone is on marshmallow, the software doesn't repair sh*t, just wipes everything, installs latest rom and then puts files back. Does not return your app data.
Anyway, long story short, my battery seems to drain quicker now, I can't deal with all the ads and I lost years of app data. Stick with root, nothing special with marshmallow.
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I'd keep root.
My usb port started acting really wonky and after attempting everything I could think of, I decided to try the verizon repair assistant hoping that the 1% chance it would be a software issue. Unrooted, ran the repair assistant and next thing I know, my phone is on marshmallow, the software doesn't repair sh*t, just wipes everything, installs latest rom and then puts files back. Does not return your app data.
Anyway, long story short, my battery seems to drain quicker now, I can't deal with all the ads and I lost years of app data. Stick with root, nothing special with marshmallow.
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Shoot, wish that would have been a software issue for you. Still tempted to see how marshmallow runs. My phone seems to be running slow.
I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
titos1997 said:
I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
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Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
serotoninzero said:
Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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All I did was uninstall the apps which required root, then I unrooted through SU and then connected to the verizon upgrade assistant. You can also use the Samsung smart switch. Before I connected to the upgrade assistant and smart switch, but after I unrooted through SU, I rebooted my phone a few times and the custom unlock boot screen also changed to normal.
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titos1997 said:
I've had root on my phone's since the original Motorola droid days. Now that we haven't been able to unlock bootloader root is almost pointless that we can't install custom kernels, or true Roms. I've had more options being on marshmallow than 0C3 or 0E2. I don't use hotspot so I'm not sure if it still works but I was reading that people have been able to get it going without root. Android and Samsung pay works now that I'm not rooted. Samsung's themes work very well and canake the whole touch whiz experience bearable. All the addware that comes along with not being rooted is easily hidden. People complain about that it's still installed and using space on our phones but for me I haven't noticed them.
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I've been rooting since the HTC Hero days and I disagree. Although we have lost a lot with the locked bootloader, it's not pointless, root still lets you keep all of your old app data with titanium backup which I personally had stored for years. It's also great for blocking ads, being on day 4 of no root, all these ads are really annoying.
I'd love to be back on OE2!
Matlab$Brah said:
So my big question is foxfi working on marshmallow foe the unlimited plan?
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Works perfectly. I switched from OE2 to MM with no regrets. Get package disabler pro and get rid of all the bloat and it's super smooth with great battery life. The only thing I miss about not having root is I can't use better battery stats anymore. The locked bootloader and complete lack of updated ROMs was a much bigger deal to me.
serotoninzero said:
Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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Download stock firmware from Sammobile and flash with Odin.
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serotoninzero said:
Do you know the best way to go back to stock? I've been on 5.0.2 OE2 rooted since the beginning but I'm wanting to move over to Marshmallow stock and get some of those apps back that don't support rooted phones.
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The Marshmallow Odin Tar was linked in another thread. You should be able to just flash this and factory reset through the stock recovery and be set. I haven't done this but that's the route I'll be taking when I do decide to upgrade
Matlab$Brah said:
Shoot, wish that would have been a software issue for you. Still tempted to see how marshmallow runs. My phone seems to be running slow.
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So did you ever make the move?
Yes, best decision I have made marshmallow is faster and smoother, foxfi works, and you can you samsung pay.
marshmallow good, lock screen bad
Yea, marshmallow works very good on the S6.. smooth, good battery life, looks good...but that freaking swipe screen! Having to swipe the screen just to get to your lock screen is useless and irritating and people have been asking Google to change it since lollipop. I was hoping marshmallow would be different but no
Looks like no ability to root now either
I made the jump. Best decision ever. Very polished and no more force close like 5.0.2. Can still tether with foxfi which is what I pretty much only used root for.
How is the latest update? I'm still rooted and thinking about going back to stock.

Back To Stock On VS995 After A Couple Of Years Post-Dirty Santa - Couldn't Be Happier

I originally used the Dirty Santa routine on my Verizon VS995, so it remained on VS99513A for a couple of years. Had all manner of issues over time - apps "failing to respond", YouTube not displaying video but rather black screens, green-screen crashes, etc. Finally had enough and used the LGUP process to return to stock and unroot, of course. I probably (assuming, anyway) could have gone right to the latest Oreo firmware with LGUP, but decided to go to the stock version of VS99513A and then just do the many system updates to get current.
It's now happily sitting on Oreo, and knock on wood it's like having a new phone! It's so much smoother, YouTube is working, lol, battery life is an order of magnitude better and it's working like a phone should work. No one knows the future, of course, but today, I'm happy.
Just passing this along, but I've gone from being ready to trash this thing to being able to enjoy it again without worrying about having to dump some $$$ into something else.
I had originally rooted to get around the Verizon mobile-hotspot check, but I have an unlimited plan that includes it anyway, now, so that's no longer an issue.
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
Prowler_gr said:
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
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Blokada DNS changer. Also working without root. All problems gone. :good: for me the main reason for root is to prevent screen retention. The sucked soooo hart. If there would be an option without root I would also go with an unrooted stock fw.
Prowler_gr said:
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
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It's not even a close comparison in my case. Admittedly I'm on Oreo now and not the original Nougat the phone came with (and was rooted with), but it's literally a night and day difference. It wasn't just performance - it was extreme instability, apps that wouldn't work or would constantly go into "not responding" mode, green screens, battery life that was awful to the point where it nearly always needed to be connected to a charger, etc. I'd tap on an app or a function in an app before, and I'd literally have to wait and wait for something to happen at times.
Now? Lightning fast and smooth operation, stability where there was none before, etc. And, as stated, for what I really needed root before (bypassing vendor check for mobile hotspot), it's no longer an issue due to the phone plan I'm on.
I'm not knocking rooting, so don't misunderstand. But for my experience with this phone, going back to stock where I could actually update the version of the OS, as well, has made all the difference in the world for my user experience. YMMV.
Interesting... I haven't tried stock Oreo yet but in every time I flash a new stock rom the phone runs great for 6 months then starts lagging.
oooh meee TOOO! me! meeeee!
Heyitsrick said:
I originally used the Dirty Santa routine on my Verizon VS995, so it remained on VS99513A for a couple of years. Had all manner of issues over time - apps "failing to respond", YouTube not displaying video but rather black screens, green-screen crashes, etc. Finally had enough and used the LGUP process to return to stock and unroot, of course. I probably (assuming, anyway) could have gone right to the latest Oreo firmware with LGUP, but decided to go to the stock version of VS99513A and then just do the many system updates to get current.
It's now happily sitting on Oreo, and knock on wood it's like having a new phone! It's so much smoother, YouTube is working, lol, battery life is an order of magnitude better and it's working like a phone should work. No one knows the future, of course, but today, I'm happy.
Just passing this along, but I've gone from being ready to trash this thing to being able to enjoy it again without worrying about having to dump some $$$ into something else.
I had originally rooted to get around the Verizon mobile-hotspot check, but I have an unlimited plan that includes it anyway, now, so that's no longer an issue.
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Between the GIGANTIC pain in the ass that it was to root this phone (I have a VS995 rooted and on 13a ever since) and all the problems that rooting has caused I'd be ready to undo it all anyway. But due to some problem with internal storage* that started a couple weeks ago, I was fed-up and factory reset the phone. When it boots normally, a check in "about" shows the software status as "modified" but root checker says its not rooted, superSU can't find root (I installed it from play store).. Tried to update via the "system updates" in settings (could not get it to show developer options either).
* The storage issue: I have 50 gigs internal (or something similar) and I get a message that the storage is full and some apps may not work. Not possible, but I humored it and uninstalled everything, cleared cache, downloads cleared, etc ... still showing +/-1 gb free space avail. Factory reset, appears stock, but free space STILL less than 1 GB.
Regretted rooting this phone almost immediately since I still couldn't get rid of certain apps, I had to deal with the camera issues, etc... The only thing positive about it was that my work was unable to install their MDM crap (Mobile Iron shielding Gsuite etc). But anyway, it doesn't look like I'll be able to update the system - I tried it and now it boots to twrp, or boots regularly and then loops around to twrp again. I'm looking for the easiest way to get the phone working (with the persistent problem of internalstorage being full for no reason fixed) and at least reasonably updated. Don't care if it's rooted or not really.
Do you or does anyone have a link to a "play by play" for whatever might work? Its been too long since I rooted it for me to remember the nuances of the procedure so its safe to say that I don't really understand how Android works all that well, so instructions like, "flash xxx 3.2 then flash back to 2 then fastboot and load yer ROM but don't forget the dalvik blah blah" won't work... I'm looking for the idiot's version with hand-holding and everything.
Interesting analysis................ I mainly rooted my older phones due to the need for the mobile hotspot without paying VZ extra charges. However, now that I have the VS995, I was able to download and use the Foxfi app (I paid for the Pro upgrade license) so this left me thinking, do I really need to root my V20 at all? In the past, you couldn't run apps that ran many WIFI tools and other tech'y things, but it seems much of that has changed. I don't run custom ROMs so maybe I don't need to root. Would be glad to hear rebuttals on the subject
I received a new VS995 last week and I flash h910 to get FM radio. I could not be happier as I'm on OREO and the device is working perfectly without any issue whatsoever and with latest mk2000 kernel (2.2 beta) general interface performance is working very well - as it should. Hotspot needed a little workaround bit it wasn't too difficult. I wouldn't dream of going back to stock!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79939652&postcount=269
I know it's not straight to bootloader unlock and root this phone but it's worth the trouble. I hope my new fone will last and last untill manufactures change mind about removable batter and horrible new aspect ratio! No thanks V30 !
You're right.
There's no good reason to root the v20. Even rooted you can't do things that other phones can do, like enabling monitor mode on the Wi-Fi. Nor have I been able to get an external Wi-Fi adapter to work on it.
0per said:
There's no good reason to root the v20. Even rooted you can't do things that other phones can do, like enabling monitor mode on the Wi-Fi. Nor have I been able to get an external Wi-Fi adapter to work on it.
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YOU ARE WRONG.
AD BLOCK Yeah they have rootless ad block but they work like ****
screen burn fixes. hows the ghosting?
titanium backup still best option for absolutely all apps getting backed up.
Sorry i have run root too long i cant live without it anymore.
is this happening to just verizon version of LG V20? anyone?
is this happening to just verizon version of LG V20? anyone?

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