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Hello, it's me again with new set of questions
My device is GT-I9001
1) What is Nandroid backup? Is it complete system image backup like Acronis True Image, created with CWM, because i have CWM installed?
2) I am planning to install CM9 on my device, is it possible to restore my apps completely with settings, and games completely with passed levels with Titanium (I've got Pro version). I need to know if any problem could arise when restoring? I also read not to restore system apps, my question is why?
3) Am I installing CM9 via odin or via cwm? I saw two files gapps and cm9, which is firstly installed?
4) How to wipe before installing custom ROM?
5) Could you find me Stock ROM for my phone, I've got no luck finding it? Here is PDA and CSC
http://fotkica.com/slika.php?slika=256965_167852444_SC20120720-222332.png
Thanks in advance, I am especially thankful if you answer me the questions detailed/for noobs...
TwinHeadedEagle said:
Hello, it's me again with new set of questions
My device is GT-I9001
1) What is Nandroid backup? Is it complete system image backup like Acronis True Image, created with CWM, because i have CWM installed?
2) I am planning to install CM9 on my device, is it possible to restore my apps completely with settings, and games completely with passed levels with Titanium (I've got Pro version). I need to know if any problem could arise when restoring? I also read not to restore system apps, my question is why?
3) Am I installing CM9 via odin or via cwm? I saw two files gapps and cm9, which is firstly installed?
4) How to wipe before installing custom ROM?
5) Could you find me Stock ROM for my phone, I've got no luck finding it? Here is PDA and CSC
http://fotkica.com/slika.php?slika=256965_167852444_SC20120720-222332.png
Thanks in advance, I am especially thankful if you answer me the questions detailed/for noobs...
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1. yes, it is complete system image backup (can be created using CWM)
2. yes, you can restore apps including their settings via titanium backup.
3. please read the installation guide for your device.
4. wiping can be done via CWM
5. find it on your device sub-forum.
1) Ok, I understand...
2) There is still more questions I asked...
3) I cannot ask there until 10 posts, and it's a bit unclear/confusing to me...
4) I know that, what I need to wipe. I figured it's system, cache and dalvik...
Is it needed to go into mounts and storage and to format system, data and cache...
Is sdcard and emmc needed to be wiped?
5) I already said I cannot find it...
Anyone knows the answers?
TwinHeadedEagle said:
Anyone knows the answers?
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2) if you just restore User-Apps you can not do anything wrong. Only if you restore Systemapps that are not for your new system.
If this happens you can easily restore your nandroid and start over again
3) Odin is more or less only for Stock Roms. CM is flashed through CWM
4) nope! If you do the Wipe, system, data etc. will be formated
5) you can easily find stock roms for almost every samsung device on sammobile.com
Thanks for clarifying
I searched every possible site, but still can't find my stock firmware
i am a newbie...
i wanted to ask if it is possible to flash a package in cwm which contains all the .apks i want in my cell
that i thought would make installing apk at once once i flash a new rom instead of app backup and restore
just flash such a package and its done.
i want to know is it possible to make such a flashable package///
Hellboundz said:
i am a newbie...
i wanted to ask if it is possible to flash a package in cwm which contains all the .apks i want in my cell
that i thought would make installing apk at once once i flash a new rom instead of app backup and restore
just flash such a package and its done.
i want to know is it possible to make such a flashable package///
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yes it is possible i think so but it will not be much successful to make a flasheble ip of apks..
btw in a rom in system there are all req apks of phone that can be combined together.. but still there is a risk of briking your device so better not to flash your homemade zip.. ..
press thanks if it helped..
titanium backup pro now have that option
Sent from my GT-S5670 using xda premium
Will i hav to purchase pro version ?
I currently have titanium backup and theres no such option in it
Yes its possible.
Hellboundz said:
i am a newbie...
i wanted to ask if it is possible to flash a package in cwm which contains all the .apks i want in my cell
that i thought would make installing apk at once once i flash a new rom instead of app backup and restore
just flash such a package and its done.
i want to know is it possible to make such a flashable package///
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Hey its possible using this application (though its in initial days) check it out at the following link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951478
press thanks on getting helped :good:
But how many apps u can flash???...our phone has hardly 200 mb internal menory in system/app...and except official cm7 all the roms occupy 160-170 mbs of space by default...and if it reaches to 190 phone starts lagging like hell and starts giving memory full warnings...so installing them is the better way or buy a S3
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Hello, I have recently been able to install and make a backup of my SGH-I727 using CWM. I have also purchased Titanium backup and made application backups.
I have a few specific questions that I have not been able to find an answer to :
1) Will a CWM backup contain all the apps that are on the phone as well? Meaning, if I restore with a backup image I made, will the
unit be exactly as it was before the backup (i.e. home pages, apps, etc)?
2) If the answer to #1 is YES, then what is the use of Titanium backup/restore?
3) I saw on a YOUTUBE video a user "teaching" how to use CWM, before the RESTORE, he formatted the /cache, /data and /system partitions, then did the RESTORE. Is this needed? required? recommended? best practice?
4) I have gb 2.3.5 on the device now and it works fantastic. I would like to try ICS but before I go there, I want to make sure I have a way to get back to what I have now. Is a CWM backup all I need?
5) Will installing a stock Kernel (ICS AT&T in my case) get rid of CWM Recovery? Or will it be there when I want to go back to the backed up version?
6) Lastly, and maybe this one should not be in this thread but lets try : I am learning about Android, and I see references to the "modem/radio" files for each device. Will a CWM backup also backup the radio/modem code in case the ICS install does not go as planned?
Thank you!!
I think you need to do more reading. Many of these questions have been answered.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
1. Yes a cwm or twrp b/u will put all your apps back just like you never left.!
2. You use titanium when you flash a new rom because of course the new rom won't contain your apps.
3. I've done lots and lots of restores and never wiped first....but wouldn't hurt i guess.
4.yup.!
5.no the recovery remains untouched.
6.I don't think the radio gets backed up or restored. But it's not critical to the rom operation and can be reflashed when ever..
calderonr said:
Hello, I have recently been able to install and make a backup of my SGH-I727 using CWM. I have also purchased Titanium backup and made application backups.
I have a few specific questions that I have not been able to find an answer to :
1) Will a CWM backup contain all the apps that are on the phone as well? Meaning, if I restore with a backup image I made, will the
unit be exactly as it was before the backup (i.e. home pages, apps, etc)?
2) If the answer to #1 is YES, then what is the use of Titanium backup/restore?
3) I saw on a YOUTUBE video a user "teaching" how to use CWM, before the RESTORE, he formatted the /cache, /data and /system partitions, then did the RESTORE. Is this needed? required? recommended? best practice?
4) I have gb 2.3.5 on the device now and it works fantastic. I would like to try ICS but before I go there, I want to make sure I have a way to get back to what I have now. Is a CWM backup all I need?
5) Will installing a stock Kernel (ICS AT&T in my case) get rid of CWM Recovery? Or will it be there when I want to go back to the backed up version?
6) Lastly, and maybe this one should not be in this thread but lets try : I am learning about Android, and I see references to the "modem/radio" files for each device. Will a CWM backup also backup the radio/modem code in case the ICS install does not go as planned?
Thank you!!
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1. 99.9% back to what you had
2. if you install a new rom you can use titu to restore your apps and settings, 99.9% of apps should work, but some people like reinstalling thier apps fresh and not from backups
3. i wipe b4 i reinstall from backup, but dont wipe/format your sdcards, thats where all the backups of cwm and titu are, good practice is to backup your sdcards onto your computer, that reminds me, i need todo that
4. yes except for the radio
5. if you mean stock firmware , then yes custom recovery gone, you will get everything back to stock - recovery, kernel, rom, radio. if you mean just the kernel then no
6. no cwm/twrp do not backup or wipe the radio , you will still have what you had b4, but the ics stock firmware install you will get another radio and should be fine, worry about flashing the firmware correctly(do the wipes), radio is easy to flash/reflash with custom recovery(cwm/twrp)
vincom said:
1. 99.9% back to what you had
2. if you install a new rom you can use titu to restore your apps and settings, 99.9% of apps should work, but some people like reinstalling thier apps fresh and not from backups
3. i wipe b4 i reinstall from backup, but dont wipe/format your sdcards, thats where all the backups of cwm and titu are, good practice is to backup your sdcards onto your computer, that reminds me, i need todo that
4. yes except for the radio
5. if you mean stock firmware , then yes custom recovery gone, you will get everything back to stock - recovery, kernel, rom, radio. if you mean just the kernel then no
6. no cwm/twrp do not backup or wipe the radio , you will still have what you had b4, but the ics stock firmware install you will get another radio and should be fine, worry about flashing the firmware correctly(do the wipes), radio is easy to flash/reflash with custom recovery(cwm/twrp)
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Hi Vincom and all,
Thanks for the responses....Very useful and I think I am putting all the dots together now. Before I ask this let me say that I am a computer programmer as well but for IBM mainframe systems, so I am a technical person but the distributed computing world (Windows/Unix/Linux, etc) is not that familiar to me, therefore these follow up questions.
I am trying to understand the difference between FIRMWARE, and ROMS and Kernels.
1A) I gather firmware is the software that drives the hardware like device drivers..correct?
2A) I also gather that the Kernel is the version of the operating system. Correct?
3A) ROM is the one that is stomping me a bit...is that the UI version? Like Gnome in Linux?
When I look at my S2, in About Phone I see the following :
Baseband Version - I727UCKJ2
Kernel Version - 2.6.35.11
Build Number GINGERBREAD.UCKJ2
4A) Lastly, when I do a CWM backup, what am I backing up? The ROM and the Kernel? Does it also back up the firmware?
Anyway thanks to all for your input and help!...I love my Android device!
Hello there, To answer a few of your questions.
1.A. Typically Firmware is a patch or software update/version that affects what the hardware is supposed to do..Google definition-Permanent software programmed into a read-only memory.
2.A. Kernel - pretty good explanation of it...
3.A. Google definition - The Android ROM is the Android operating system. This is the User interface (Sense UI in HTC phones) and the file system for maintaining contacts etc. It is composed of a Linux kernel and various add-ons to achieve specific functionality.- I would define it as a user-developed version of android if we are talking about custom ROMs.
4.A. Yes when you back up it backs up everything except the radio.
To further explain why people might use TIBU and CWM/TWRP is because most people make a full nandroid (cwm backup) for safety / oops moments or just to try out a different rom. TIBU is usually used when users go from rom to rom and dont want to mess with playstore taking its sweet time to reinstall. (only restore app/app data. NEVER RESTORE SYS DATA unless on the same version of android. the sys files are always different rom to rom or version to version)
Baseband is the Radio, Just fyi there are several different versions of radios for our phone but they are typicall Version specific. ie: gb radios wouldnt work on JB
Not as a troll or flame but I am just curious why you are still using GB? My advice is just to install cm10 + gapps and look up installing cyandelta from the playstore.
I offer that as a suggestion because it will update your phone autonomously. also review the forums for which radios are best for cm (I'm still using uclf6 even though there are newer versions)
Dear all I want to change my ROM but by your experience I need to have answers for these questions
to have the decision to start or not please help me and thank you all .
First I have LG P500
android : 2.2.2 V10h
kernal version : 2.6.32.9
the phone is rooted
ROM manager is installed and I made a backup in CWM
1) is there any other backup should I have ?
2) is there any risk by installing a new ROM by the CWM / if yes what is the best way ?
3) if i have backed up the Ndrive through titanium backup can I have back in a new ROM ?
4) if I didn't like the new ROM with CWM can I have my old one as it was with Ndrive working good ?
5) what is the best ROM for my phone ?
Thank all for helping me
Note : most what I care is the Ndrive because I use it alot and it help me alot .
if you installed CWM and did a backup, is OK
no risk installing a new rom trough CWM, I have inslalled alot(I didn't try other recovery but if you want someting else search forum for it) any recovery is good, alot of people says that CWM is a liitle old and have some problems, but if it works for you, use it, I didn't have any problem, for installing new rom read careffuly the OP instructions, all of the post(do not miss anything), and it will work, read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 but not all roms are included, for that search http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=839 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1545
everything backuped with TITANIUM can be restored if you didn't erased it from sd card, by formating or partitioning(one more tip is to go in titanium folder in sdcard an extract apk manualy and install it), trough TITANIUM install app+data, after restoring do not open app, chooze ok and let TITANIUM restore data for app
yes you can restore the original rom by CWM but some times it will not work propertly, better try another custom rom that you will like(there are alot of them, serch and read feedback)
this is rr0yy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4689008) post in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876951
"Go to your SDcard.. search and go to clockworkmod folder.. go to backup.. now whichever file you see.. Rename it xyz or anything WITHOUT any space!!
Try restoring then!! And keep a small name!! Dont use any special characters like $ & # " credits to him(good hint)
if you encounter problems with restoring a rom trough CWM
I like ICS, but you can search to see what suits you, ICS is good for O1 despite of ram usage, I like it more than GB(old), JB is too large for me and my phone memory
thanks but one more
grigtm said:
if you installed CWM and did a backup, is OK
no risk installing a new rom trough CWM, I have inslalled alot(I didn't try other recovery but if you want someting else search forum for it) any recovery is good, alot of people says that CWM is a liitle old and have some problems, but if it works for you, use it, I didn't have any problem, for installing new rom read careffuly the OP instructions, all of the post(do not miss anything), and it will work, read here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=901247 but not all roms are included, for that search http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=839 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1545
everything backuped with TITANIUM can be restored if you didn't erased it from sd card, by formating or partitioning(one more tip is to go in titanium folder in sdcard an extract apk manualy and install it), trough TITANIUM install app+data, after restoring do not open app, chooze ok and let TITANIUM restore data for app
yes you can restore the original rom by CWM but some times it will not work propertly, better try another custom rom that you will like(there are alot of them, serch and read feedback)
this is rr0yy (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4689008) post in here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1876951
"Go to your SDcard.. search and go to clockworkmod folder.. go to backup.. now whichever file you see.. Rename it xyz or anything WITHOUT any space!!
Try restoring then!! And keep a small name!! Dont use any special characters like $ & # " credits to him(good hint)
if you encounter problems with restoring a rom trough CWM
I like ICS, but you can search to see what suits you, ICS is good for O1 despite of ram usage, I like it more than GB(old), JB is too large for me and my phone memory
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thanks but one more question the app ndrive is it now working good with new ROM ??
You shouldn't have any compatibility problems with NDrive. I'd recommend that you flash a rom, test the apps you need and if they don't work, flash another rom.
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majdikabb said:
thanks but one more question the app ndrive is it now working good with new ROM ??
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I have tested NDrive on lots of ICS roms and it's working fine, haven't tried it on JB tho.
Hello guys, this is going to be a long post andam very sorry about that. So, I got a Samsung galaxy note2 and I want to install the latest firmware which is version 4.3. Also, I'll like to try some android 4.4 custom rom. Am currently using version 4.1.2. Seriously, i've searched many threads without a satisfactory answer before restorting to start one. Before going on this adventure I'll like to do a complete backup of my original rom so i can go back to it anytime. I've decided to use nandroid for the full image backup (clockworkmod) and titanium for subsequent application and applications data backup. I know what these two apps do but I still have some questions.
1) What's is the safest way to root and unroot my device?
2) what files/apps do I need to do a nandroid and titanium backup and where do I get them?
3) can I keep this backups on my external sdcard, will I be able to access it from external sdcard on recovery mode incase my phone crashes?
4) someone said even after using the nandroid backup, I'll still have to Flash the kernel, what does this mean and how do I do that?
5) I plan using clockworkmod cos it sounds like a good idea. How do I get and use it.
Now I made a mess of myself asking all these questions. I'll still post it nonetheless cos I really need help with these questions or I wouldn't have asked. Thanks in advance guys. Once again, sorry for the long post.
1) any way that has been tested by the device users or devs, instructions should be followed clearly..
2) CWM needed for nandroid backup & Titanium Backup app is needed for data backups.
CWM would be available in dedicated threads for your device.
Titanium Backup app would be available in playstore
3) You can. :thumbup:
4) There are 2 ways AFAIK,
i. adb method to place the kernel inside the device
ii. Zip file flashing through CWM
5) Same answer as for Q2
Hit thanks rather than typing it now Free
Parkourkarthik, thanks so much for your quick response. Sorry to bother you further. About kernel flashing, is it that I'll have to flash the kernel every time I restore from my nandroid backup? I guess I'll have to download the kernel for my device before hand, so where do l keep It so CWM could use it.
adoy005 said:
Hello guys, this is going to be a long post andam very sorry about that. So, I got a Samsung galaxy note2 and I want to install the latest firmware which is version 4.3. Also, I'll like to try some android 4.4 custom rom. Am currently using version 4.1.2. Seriously, i've searched many threads without a satisfactory answer before restorting to start one. Before going on this adventure I'll like to do a complete backup of my original rom so i can go back to it anytime. I've decided to use nandroid for the full image backup (clockworkmod) and titanium for subsequent application and applications data backup. I know what these two apps do but I still have some questions.
1) What's is the safest way to root and unroot my device?
2) what files/apps do I need to do a nandroid and titanium backup and where do I get them?
3) can I keep this backups on my external sdcard, will I be able to access it from external sdcard on recovery mode incase my phone crashes?
4) someone said even after using the nandroid backup, I'll still have to Flash the kernel, what does this mean and how do I do that?
5) I plan using clockworkmod cos it sounds like a good idea. How do I get and use it.
Now I made a mess of myself asking all these questions. I'll still post it nonetheless cos I really need help with these questions or I wouldn't have asked. Thanks in advance guys. Once again, sorry for the long post.
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for cwm check your device forum and you b=can take nandroid backup and if anything goes wrong you can backup with that
and for your question what all nandroid backup include here is the answer
nandroid backup includes
system partition
cache partition
data partition
boot partition
boot partition means kernel is included in boot partition only so kernel is also backed up in nandroid backup
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adoy005 said:
Parkourkarthik, thanks so much for your quick response. Sorry to bother you further. About kernel flashing, is it that I'll have to flash the kernel every time I restore from my nandroid backup? I guess I'll have to download the kernel for my device before hand, so where do l keep It so CWM could use it.
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if you restore nandroid backup you will automatically get stock kernel because nandroid backup includes boot partition where kernel is found
no need to flash kernel everytime
and you can keep kernel anywhere but if you simply download kernel image file or md5 file you an install it only with universal kernel flasher or adb you cant install that file directly in cwm
it must be a flashable zip to install in cwm to install it