[Q] Multicast Wifi Enable on stock P5100 ( WifiManager.MulticastLock ) - Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a stock P5100 device and thought the reason I was getting no Multicast traffic was due to it having no 5GHz Wifi.
I've done some tests at really low rates though and it gets nothing through at all on Multicast.
(I'm using VPlayer, MX Player, VLC to view UDP streams broadcast on my network, other android devices work OK)
Seems that it may be the WifiManager.MulticastLock that may be causing the problem.
I can't post a link about this, but seems it may be set as default to not receive Multicast traffic over Wifi to save battery life.
Is there any way I can fix this so that it receives Mulicast traffic?

Anyone, please?
I've searched the market to see if there is some kind of Wifi app. that could do this but can't find anything.
Starting to think the only option is to put some other ROM in it but I don't think I'll go down that route as I still wouldn't know 100% that it would work.
Have tested a Nexus 7 and this works perfect so it may be a Nexus 10 is a simpler option.

upnp media server
I use skifta or pixel media controller combine with bsplayer (free). They work best for me. If you had stutter just increase network buffer to medium or high. 1080p work flawlessly with around 2000 kB/s network transfer and almost full cpu utilization.
Any other player through upnp discovery or play directly through network had major issues (stutter, low quality,etc).
Samsung allshare won't even pick up any media, keep on processing for hours with no result (yeah, I've tried waiting).
I think samsung allshare play only good for local (your tab) to client (samsung smart tv).

D-jack said:
I use skifta or pixel media controller combine with bsplayer (free).
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Thanks, I could use BSPlayer on the client device as this supports UDP Multicast (experimental) in the latest release.
D-jack said:
They work best for me. If you had stutter just increase network buffer to medium or high. 1080p work flawlessly with around 2000 kB/s network transfer and almost full cpu utilization.
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The problem I've got is that my source is UDP Multicast in the 224. range and the Galaxy Tab 2 does not pass any Wifi traffic at all so I get nothing.

So every other client on your network work except the galaxy tab. And you suspect it was no multicast support, correct?
Well I think multicast work okay on my tab. I'm just guessing here, because my local wifi speed tops around 2400 KiloBytes/s and while playing streams with above combination I get up to 3600 KiloBytes/s depending on scene complexity (might be because of multicast, but certainly not bu definition). And I saw multicast message somewhere (i'm lost here).
Where did you see this multicast.lock exactly? I'm mostly stock rom with very little mod.
I'll do my best to recreate your situation.
Bsplayer or many other player I tried won't see the content on certain media server. You need to use upnp service to feed them.
My method: open skifta/PMC, select media server, browse content, choose prefer player.
Maybe you should update all related samsung apps including allshare manually. Maybe there's something related there.
Check your router config and firewall because I don't think multicast and upnp were enabled by default on older modem/router.
And try use 2.4 ghz radio only.
Also what is your os version? Are they up to date?

pmcg1 said:
I have a stock P5100 device and thought the reason I was getting no Multicast traffic was due to it having no 5GHz Wifi.
I've done some tests at really low rates though and it gets nothing through at all on Multicast.
(I'm using VPlayer, MX Player, VLC to view UDP streams broadcast on my network, other android devices work OK)
Seems that it may be the WifiManager.MulticastLock that may be causing the problem.
I can't post a link about this, but seems it may be set as default to not receive Multicast traffic over Wifi to save battery life.
Is there any way I can fix this so that it receives Mulicast traffic?
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I don;t understand what you are trying to fix. IF the stream is indeed being transmitted and is available to clients the client (P5100) doesn't care or know that its a multicast or not, since in UDP there is no handshake, This sounds like a router / firewall configuration problem.
I think most enterprise and ISP routers, such as Cisco and Juniper, support multicast. I doubt that most home broadband routers, such as Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, and D-Link do. I'm not sure Basically, if it costs less than $200, I wouldn't expect multicast support.
I've never see an enterprise class router that *didn't* support multicast (which certainly does not imply universality). But I've never seen one where it's turned on by default, either (and it usually
isn't turned on manually either).

I can tell you this, I've seen many modem/router less than usd 20-30 have mulicast tick box.
Although I agree with digialmd they usually not enable by default.
And almost nobody I know need them.

D-jack said:
So every other client on your network work except the galaxy tab. And you suspect it was no multicast support, correct?
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Yes, Galaxy Note 2, Galaxy S2/S3, Nexus 7 & Nexus 10 are all OK.
I've also tried re-streaming the stream using VLC from the 224. Multicast address to the Tab2's 192. local adress and the Tab 2 gets it fine.
This led me to believe that for some reason the Tab 2 is not receiving Multicast traffic.
D-jack said:
Where did you see this multicast.lock exactly?
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I googled this and found a link for developers to WifiManager.MulticastLock where it says that this may be disabled to save battery life.
D-jack said:
Bsplayer or many other player I tried won't see the content on certain media server. You need to use upnp service to feed them.
My method: open skifta/PMC, select media server, browse content, choose prefer player.
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My problem is that the content is "live" over the air that is then sent out Multicast, it's not a upnp device.
D-jack said:
Maybe you should update all related samsung apps including allshare manually. Maybe there's something related there.
Check your router config and firewall because I don't think multicast and upnp were enabled by default on older modem/router.
And try use 2.4 ghz radio only.
Also what is your os version? Are they up to date?
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I'm on the latest stock rom with all updates applied.
Spent ages with the router and went through about different ones to now be on a Netgear D6300 and as said this works with all other devices just wont work on the Tab2.

DigitalMD said:
I don;t understand what you are trying to fix. IF the stream is indeed being transmitted and is available to clients the client (P5100) doesn't care or know that its a multicast or not, since in UDP there is no handshake, This sounds like a router / firewall configuration problem.
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It's available to all the other devices as I've said.
DigitalMD said:
I think most enterprise and ISP routers, such as Cisco and Juniper, support multicast. I doubt that most home broadband routers, such as Linksys, Netgear, Belkin, and D-Link do. I'm not sure Basically, if it costs less than $200, I wouldn't expect multicast support.
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I'm using a Netgear D6300 that supports Multicast and I've tried all sorts of settings on the router but when the other clients get the Multicast stream OK it always leads me back to the Tab2.

i stumbled some post with your exact problem, unfortunately he did not state the exact problem/solution with his router.
maybe you should try contacting him.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...msung-galaxy-tab-7-7-but-they-arrive-on-a-htc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1617617
I'm still learning a lot about these stuff.
I had to dig my old pci tuner then try vlc. hope there's driver support for it.

vlc stream rtp
ok, i managed to stream local file through vlc for windows to vlc for android rtp @239.1.1.1:5004
test file run ok.
I've read that [multicast?] network discovery just been added to jelly bean android 4.1 and the prefer address should be 239 for private network since 224 through something might be block on some router (corp. reserve).
somehow i'm not sure i want to continue this anymore because my old pvr no longer supported (no win7 nor x64 suppport) and somehow i get lots of memory leak.
If you're still on ICS rom i suggest you upgrade to jb. I'm on jb 4.1.2 if that matter.
Good luck to you.

D-jack said:
ok, i managed to stream local file through vlc for windows to vlc for android rtp @239.1.1.1:5004
test file run ok.
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Have you tried it as UDP?
D-jack said:
I've read that [multicast?] network discovery just been added to jelly bean android 4.1 and the prefer address should be 239 for private network since 224 through something might be block on some router (corp. reserve).
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I'll try it on a 239 range as soon as i get in.
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If you're still on ICS rom i suggest you upgrade to jb. I'm on jb 4.1.2 if that matter.
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I've got the latest 4.1.2 on Nexus & Note 2 but only 4.0.4 on Tab2 10.1, this is stock so can't change.

working
Udp stream ok on both vlc bsplayer for android.
Rtp crashed bsplayer though.
Hope that help.

D-jack said:
Udp stream ok on both vlc bsplayer for android.
Rtp crashed bsplayer though.
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Thanks, the plot thickens for me now.
Last night I connected up an additional Wreless Access Point, a Netgear N150.
The Tab 2 gets the UDP Multicast OK when connected to this WAP but not when it's connected to the WAP in the D6300.
But all other devices I've tried are OK on the D6300, very odd behaviour.

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[APP REQUEST] Android DLNA WAN Player

I've got a UPNP DLNA compatible plugin going in foobar2000 right now.
http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_upnp
I just wanted to know if anyone has seen an app like this (with WAN compatibility)?
Orb seems like the closest thing, but thats a pricey $10 and it doesn't interface foobar.
Try "Twonky Server"
Im using it with my PS3 to stream.
You completely misread what my intentions are.
I need an application that is a UPNP DLNA PLAYER that lets you access the server from OUTSIDE your local network
I have no desire to:
1) stream to a tv
2) use wifi
I wish to:
1) Listen to all the music stored on my computer (stream via foobar2000 rather than some other 3rd party software)
2) not use wifi
You could use winamp remote on your computer as the server, and then just go to http://winamp.orb.com from your phone and stream the music you want.
Winamp remote is Orb...
It'd be easier if the remote end would mirror whatever i have existing in my media player (playlists, playcounts, etc), rather than have them separate and different.
I'm still looking for something to interface foobar's UPnP server over WAN
r45k said:
Winamp remote is Orb...
It'd be easier if the remote end would mirror whatever i have existing in my media player (playlists, playcounts, etc), rather than have them separate and different.
I'm still looking for something to interface foobar's UPnP server over WAN
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Did you try Andromote? It's been a while but that may only still be for LAN.
For streaming my music over 3g I use subsonic (www.subsonic.org) and set up two profiles on my phone. One for wifi and one for 3g. You may have to trigger port 80 in the forwarding section of your router.
mik101 said:
Did you try Andromote? It's been a while but that may only still be for LAN.
For streaming my music over 3g I use subsonic (www.subsonic.org) and set up two profiles on my phone. One for wifi and one for 3g. You may have to trigger port 80 in the forwarding section of your router.
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Andromote is still only LAN.
I might just be expecting too much i'm not sure, but subsonic looks a bit more promising with its user interface... I'll give that a try, thanks.
Chances are low you will actually find an DLNA-over-WAN solution, as DLNA/UPnP use multicast broadcasts to interface with eachother.
Maybe you could try setting up a VPN connection from phone to your home and go from there?
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Chances are low you will actually find an DLNA-over-WAN solution, as DLNA/UPnP use multicast broadcasts to interface with eachother.
Maybe you could try setting up a VPN connection from phone to your home and go from there?
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x2... i hadnt thought of that. VPN tunneling into your local network would probably be the only chance of something DLNA actually working over WAN.
I'm actually trying to achieve the same thing. I connect to my home LAN via VPN on android 2.3 but all DLNA apps (and I've tried loads in the marketplace) close after stating that I'm not connected via WiFi. Is there a fundamental reason why VPN isnt a suitable connection to consider when building an app? No one seems to have thought of this... shame. Who will be the first to amend their app? Please let me know if you have something to try.
If you use a server that doesn't require user+pass the app "UPNPlay" is absolutely lovely. And it works perfectly over mobile connections and from remote places.
r45k said:
I need an application that is a UPNP DLNA PLAYER that lets you access the server from OUTSIDE your local network
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Does DLNA standard support access to the server of OUTSIDE network?
Input
for outside:
i dont know - i thing you need the right port for the protokoll
see http://www.skifta.com/how-skifta-works#friends
for inside:
try :
skifta http://www.skifta.com/
or imediashare http://www.imediashare.tv/
this are the best and most flexible DLNA clients with media shifting and there are free
Another vote for Skifta
VPN
Probably ArkMC application will suite you.
One of its function is managing all devices from both inside and outside of the network environment via VPN
Hello
I found this post when searching new apps for this result.
There is one app on the Play Store who is able to connect upnp server over wan :
Upnplay
First you connect your server over WiFi, and you clone it, editing address for wan usage, and it works !
Hope it will help you !

Streaming video

Hi I just wanted to contribute an edited tutorial to those who are interested in video streaming to their phone from a home server. I didn't see a proper one listed on any of the droid development forums so as an epic user I just wanted to help.
I have pieced together a tutorial to get hi-quality Video Streaming to your Android phone over Wi-Fi or 3G. For those of you using Orb Mycast for years, like I have, have noticed that the quality is unbearable and down right atrocious until I rediscovered Tversity again.
Here are some items you will need:
1: Tversity installed on PC where media is stored
2: rockplayer app installed on Android phone from market
Its the only player for Android that picks up on most video files without having to download the file all the way.
Optional: Setup your PC for Static IP and Port Fowarding if you want to stream via 3G if away from home. Go to PortForward.com - Port Forwarding Guides Listed by Manufacturer and Model for detailed tutorials on how to set this up.
Setting Up Tversity For Streaming
I will not go into detail about setting Tversity on your PC such as configuring the libraries and such but I will go over settings that need to be in place for this to work.
Under Settings in the Transcoder section, make sure under "When To Transcode" make sure its set to never. The reason behind this is I havent figured a way for Android to pickup on the stream without waiting for it to fully transcode.
Next under General Settings, under Home Network, make sure you plug in your PC's IP address so that way your phone has access to your video files.
For this part, you would have had to setup your PC for a static IP instead of being a random IP that is given when your PC gets turned on each time. If you got to PortForward.com - Port Forwarding Guides Listed by Manufacturer and Model for detail tutorials on setting up a static IP.
Optional:Under General Settings in the Home Network Section, there is an option for "the media server should accept requests......" which will let you access your media over 3G on your phone. To set this up, after you check mark that you want access, go ahead and setup a username and password to let you login from outside your network.
As before, you need your PC setup as a static IP but also you have setup your home router to Port Forward requests from Port 41952 to your PC's Static IP. Go to PortForward.com - Port Forwarding Guides Listed by Manufacturer and Model for instructions on how to setup port forwarding.
Install A Android Media Player That Will Pickup On Progressive MP4
So far the only media player that works for this so far is the "rockPlayer" that you can download for free off the market.
If anybody has found a better player that works for this solution, please let me know so I can test it out.
Last But Not Least, Lets Stream A Video To Our Phone!!
For Home Wi-Fi Streaming Only
Open your web browser in your Android Phone, input your PC's Static IP such as "192.168.1.XXX:41952/lib"(Replaced the XXX's with Your IP address that you previously setup), from here, you will be navigated to Tversity's mobile WAP GUI. Navigate from here where you setup your video files in your library to appear. After that, select your video file and if all is setup correctly, then either you will get a popup saying with default player would you like to use or it will go straight to rockPlayer and start playing the movie.
For Streaming Over 3G or Another High-Speed Wi-Fi Connection
The only difference here that we are going to do is navigate our Android Browser to your home's IP Address which can be found easily if you go to What's My IP Address? Networking Tools & More from your home PC. For example it will look like this, 98.246.64.55:41952/lib to access Tversity away from home.
WARNING: Streaming from outside your network will take a long time for your movies to buffer to RockPlayer. It has taken well over 2 minutes for the movie to play sometimes over 3G. Thats why we try to get the movie as small as possible to stream faster over 3G.
All and all, thats about it. This should get you up and running on streaming to Hi-Quality video files to your Android phone wherever you are at. I will update this tutorial with any helpful updates I get from the community on what works better or my own discoveries as time goes on.
You can also use something like http://www.dyndns.com/ to associate your home IP with something like myawesomecomp.dyndns.org
It's handy for VNC, and other things as well, and can update when your IP changes.
Ah thank you that seems like a very considerable option especially since it helps with your Private IP changing which can be a bit of a hassle at times lol.
Thanks I love to hear from others and help with giving the users more options in this particular video streaming solution.
I use the CIFS module posted on here by someone along with CIFSManager to just mount windows shares on my phone when I am at home, and I can stream 720p mkv files flawlessly using the stock media player or any media player I want. Works with any video or audio or anything else you want to mess around with.
muyoso said:
I use the CIFS module posted on here by someone along with CIFSManager to just mount windows shares on my phone when I am at home, and I can stream 720p mkv files flawlessly using the stock media player or any media player I want. Works with any video or audio or anything else you want to mess around with.
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Is the CIFS module accessible from a network away from home such as your 3g/4g network?
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Is the CIFS module accessible from a network away from home such as your 3g/4g network?
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+onee
cd's or tapes?
Thank you
Well for cds or tapes tversity allows you to access whatever folders you set in your directoy in the program.
For audio though I highly reccomend audiogalaxy, its easy to set up and I have access to all 50gb of my music at all times.
Let's put our data plans to the maximum use right?
Thanks for the post. I hope transcoding is supported at some point by one of the players so I can stream mkv files to devices that don't support it like my Xoom.
Hmmmm! Nice....
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App
Yeah unfortunately tversity does not support transcoding .mkv files yet, I would also like this feature as a lot of anime I have is in this format.
I do however know of a lot of users who use "GOTsent" to convert to mp4 format, I use other software though however and its not as timely as it would seem.
A good solution until such transcoding is supported.
With tversity you can go into settings to allow access from internet not just the lan. Which I don't think requires the need to find ip address and enter it into the browser. You set up a password and or the devices mac address. I have used tversity for years it is high quality and very easy to use.

[Q] IPTV from network provider on Android

I asked in a few forums now and got no answer for this:
I wonder if it is possible to get IPTV which i have in bundle of my network provider, to my Android phone.
The story so far:
I got a Fritzbox 3370 and changed the Box the way that it is possible to watch my IPTV without that stupid TV-Box that you can get from your provider. For this i use VLC-Player on my Pc and got a .m3u Playlist to switch to all available channels. Inside that m3u there are all rtp adresses for all different channels: ie. rtp://@233.51.128.25:1234.
Now i searched for an app that can handle those Adresses or even better handle that m3u. But i found nothing! I tried many different apps (ie. VPlayer, VLC Player (alpha), MXPlayer, MoboPlayer,VLC S&C....) but non of them worked. All of them got an error when i tried to open a link or m3u. Another Problem with that m3u is that they are deleted instantly on any Android phone which is a known issue (But WHY??) So i tried to open them on my Fritzbox NAS.Didnt work.
What i don't understand is, where the problem is hiding? If i can stream the channels on my PC why i can't on my Galaxy S2? Is that a hardware problem or a network protocol issue or has just noone ever thought about it?
I just want to get free (because i already pay for it when using it on PC) and fast and reliable IPTV on my Smartphone over Wlan and not that crappy IPTV that can be viewed over internet.
So my question now:
Is it possible to get that working? I know that there are many capable people in this good forum who have the knowledge to perhaps program a new app for this or just know in which way it can be done (I can't program otherwise i would have done that instantly because i think many people want to have that app).
Many thanks for your help in advance
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There is a great program IPTV. You can find it on Android Market.
Thats not what i asked for...
I know all iptv apps
I'm the author of IPTV app mentioned by Molodoj, here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.iptvremote.android.iptv
You wasn't able to find it on Google Play before because it's currently available not for all countries, just Russia, exUSSR, and few European countries. I want to add more icons for local channels before sharing it for other countries. Just tell me were you are and I'll add icons and share it for your country.
Many Android devices doesn't support multicast, so I'm suggesting to use UDP proxy in your LAN to workaround this. From what I know, Samsung Galaxy S2 does support multicast, so this should work without proxy. You can use Daroon Player to play rtp streams, or try to fix the link to udp://@233.51.128.25:1234 and open it with MX Video Player or VPlayer (but I'm not 100% sure that this will work). You will be able to watch it with many other streaming players with use of proxy.
About deleting m3u playlist from sd-card. This happens because Android scans sd-card, reads m3u playlists and fixes them by deleting the links to files which could not be found on your sd-card. Since you have URLs instead of files in your playlist, Android thinks that playlist is empty and deletes it. To avoid this just create some folder, place there empty ".nomedia" file and your m3u playlist. After that Android will exclude that folder from scanning and won't touch the playlist.
Hey many thanks you are my hero!
I downloaded your program IPTV (which was available indeed but i hadnt found it I'm in Germany btw) and used Daroon Player (which isnt available here via GooglePlay but i got it from internet). And it WORKS!
I only have one problem. If i use your proxy (which is hard to configure because of all the bad letters which arent supported by my german windows ) i get get only colored screen and no sound when starting a channel.
But if i use no proxy i get mostly good pictures and sound!. But the picture keeps hanging a little with overlapping pictures for 1sec ie. its ok but i think its because of the WLAN IPTV issue? But i wonder why udp proxy gives me no result ? Or wouldnt that bring me any advantage because my S2 can handle rtp directly anyway?
UDP-to-HTTP proxy is not developed by me, this is a third party software. Possibly it has only Russian localization, I'm not sure. From what I know, it was tested a lot, including rtp streams, and you are the first who reports the issue with sound.
I can guess that this happens because it was developed to support plain udp streams. Since rtp is extension over udp, in most cases the proxy works fine with rtp streams also. However there could be some variations of rtp which are not properly supported by the proxy.
There could be some data loss with udp multicast over Wi-Fi, so some hangs are possible, proxy should help to avoid this, but it doesn't work for you
You can also try to install udpxy on your WLAN router, it has better rtp support. But installing this might be not trivial and may require flashing your router.
Also, I'm interesting if it is possible to watch rtp streams with MX Video Player. From what I know, it won't play rtp://@... URLs, but would play udp://@... Could you please try to open this URL udp://@233.51.128.25:1234 by manually input URL in MX Video Player?
Yes i think i don't want to install upd on my router. I already changed my firmware to get this IPTV working.
But i tried MX Player and with the change to udp://@ it works!
Hope that helps you, too
yalders said:
I'm the author of IPTV app mentioned by Molodoj, here is the link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.iptvremote.android.iptv
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Great software! I've tried it on Samsung Galaxy S. Works good with m3u playlists.
Hi,
I know I'm reopening an old thread but it's the one that seems to fit most my problem.
I'm trying to play a multicast rtp stream on my openhour chameleon (rk3288 device)device. the stream is like this rtp://239.186.64.192:10000
I have tried installing IPTV pro app, Dragoon player, MX, VLC, all other players I could try, it does not work.
I also tried to change to rtp://@ or udp://@ and enter it manually in MX or VLC, no chance.
I don't want to install the proxy on my router as it is my ISP router.
The strange thing is that this rtp://239.186.64.192:10000 works on all my other android devices, Sony android TV, Minix, Openhour Gecko
I have asked Openhour but they have no idea, should I ask Rockchip the builder of the motherboard.
I really would love to get access to my local iptv.
Hope someone can help me
P.

Shield like streaming except to PC?

I've had such a positive experience with shield streaming even remotely it has renewed my interest in streaming to multiple platforms.
Has any software come out to low latency stream one PC to another PC? I'd love to be able to use relatively cheap laptops which have massive battery life and use my home computer to do all the computing like with the shield.
Anyone have any experience with trying this?
HobsonA said:
I've had such a positive experience with shield streaming even remotely it has renewed my interest in streaming to multiple platforms.
Has any software come out to low latency stream one PC to another PC? I'd love to be able to use relatively cheap laptops which have massive battery life and use my home computer to do all the computing like with the shield.
Anyone have any experience with trying this?
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The best you're probably going to get is using Splashtop. I've used it to play games that were on my desktop, but had problems with a couple occasionally.
Limelight
These guys have worked on porting the the protocol and tech that the shield uses (Gamestream) to other android devices: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505510
They are currently working on porting it to PC. There is a pre-alpha build of the program in the thread but you should note that the program is in its very early stages.
YOU ARE IN LUCK! Check out kainy.com
Splashtop 2 is the best I've used, well worth the sub, especially if you own multiple machines.
One thing i have noticed since I started using the shield is that splash-top now streams games just fine to any of my devices in true full screen, it used to tell me full screen was incompatible with splash top but ever since i started streaming with the shield it works just fine. It must be something related to the shield/geforce experience streaming software that tricks the slashtop into working in fullscreen.
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YOU ARE IN LUCK! Check out kainy.com
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very interesting, giving this a try now.
Hm if I want to use splashtop I'll have to re-setup vpn again so I don't have to pay that remote cost. I wonder if someone ever wrote a program like the shield proxy to forward just the stuff used by splashtop to my PC to avoid slow VPN.
Let me know how that kainy.com works out seems a bit sketchy to me lol
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Hm if I want to use splashtop I'll have to re-setup vpn again so I don't have to pay that remote cost. I wonder if someone ever wrote a program like the shield proxy to forward just the stuff used by splashtop to my PC to avoid slow VPN.
Let me know how that kainy.com works out seems a bit sketchy to me lol
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You can also use Limelight for remote streaming. It works with Shield Proxy just the same as the real streaming software on the Shield itself. Just run the Windows binary on the machine that you'll be streaming from, setup the port forwarding, and you're set. Whenever you connect remotely, specify the external IP address of your router.
cgutman said:
You can also use Limelight for remote streaming. It works with Shield Proxy just the same as the real streaming software on the Shield itself. Just run the Windows binary on the machine that you'll be streaming from, setup the port forwarding, and you're set. Whenever you connect remotely, specify the external IP address of your router.
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Well my shield works fine what I'm trying to do now is do shield quality streaming to another PC. I have this very powerful desktop and a bunch of fairly weak laptops would love to stream to a laptop to use my desktop quality gaming anywhere for those games which need a keyboard and mouse and cant do on shield.
HobsonA said:
Well my shield works fine what I'm trying to do now is do shield quality streaming to another PC. I have this very powerful desktop and a bunch of fairly weak laptops would love to stream to a laptop to use my desktop quality gaming anywhere for those games which need a keyboard and mouse and cant do on shield.
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Yep, there's a PC port of Limelight that uses the same technology as the Shield. There's more info in the Limelight thread.
https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-pc/releases
cgutman said:
Yep, there's a PC port of Limelight that uses the same technology as the Shield. There's more info in the Limelight thread.
https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-pc/releases
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Well that's worth a look it seems people have got streaming to work to their Rasberry Pi and here i was worried about using a very low powered high battery life laptop.

GRID = 3 fps. OnLive = 30+fps. What is wrong with my tablet?

I have really crappy frame rate for ANY GRID games and have been trying to figure out what the hell is wrong. Is it my router, is it the tablet with the infamous Wifi issue or is it my network?
Well, for the heck of it, I downloaded OnLive (used to have a paid account with them before) and installed it on the Shield Tablet and lo and behold, I got awesome game streaming! 30fps or more should I say!
I have captured the video for both (see below) and you can see how crazy slow GRID is. And this is AFTER GRID testing show that I am “capable” of using the app.
I don’t know what else caused GRID to stutter like this, given that OnLive is working great and BOTH are running in the same exact settings (see below). Anyone have any idea, or GRID is only working for select people that meet certain criteria (whatever it is…)?
Current settings:
- Internet speed: 20 Mbps / 3 Mbps
- Router: ASUS RT-N66U
- Wireless: 5Ghz N only
- Extras: My network configuration has been great for the last 12 months. I have a Wii U connected to the 5Ghz N wireless network and can play COD with zero lag. Ditto with my XBOX 360.
PS: Sorry, I can't embed YouTube video with the YouTube URL... don't know why..
GRID is unplayable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSgqCp6mZhA
OnLive is smooth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80QvjcjT-Q
lanwarrior said:
I have really crappy frame rate for ANY GRID games and have been trying to figure out what the hell is wrong. Is it my router, is it the tablet with the infamous Wifi issue or is it my network?
Well, for the heck of it, I downloaded OnLive (used to have a paid account with them before) and installed it on the Shield Tablet and lo and behold, I got awesome game streaming! 30fps or more should I say!
I have captured the video for both (see below) and you can see how crazy slow GRID is. And this is AFTER GRID testing show that I am “capable” of using the app.
I don’t know what else caused GRID to stutter like this, given that OnLive is working great and BOTH are running in the same exact settings (see below). Anyone have any idea, or GRID is only working for select people that meet certain criteria (whatever it is…)?
Current settings:
- Internet speed: 20 Mbps / 3 Mbps
- Router: ASUS RT-N66U
- Wireless: 5Ghz N only
- Extras: My network configuration has been great for the last 12 months. I have a Wii U connected to the 5Ghz N wireless network and can play COD with zero lag. Ditto with my XBOX 360.
PS: Sorry, I can't embed YouTube video with the YouTube URL... don't know why..
GRID is unplayable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSgqCp6mZhA
OnLive is smooth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80QvjcjT-Q
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could be hops to the server, what dns server are you using?
The n66u build its own DNS, and onte you know the IP there is no more look up. That said, you only have a 20mbps connection so your upload is probably dismal, terrible for input lag. Also, with only 20mbs you are probably not connecting well to the Grid servers which are only in California during the beta. OnLive, however, has servers distributed across the country. That's probably why you're experiencing issues. I love in Texas, pretty far away, but I also have a 150/150 connection which means the experience is nearly lag free and I up it to 1080p.
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could be hops to the server, what dns server are you using?
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I am using OpenDNS. I set that up in the router. All clients will use the router IP address as the DNS server, as advertised by the DHCP server.
I just set the DHCP server to now provide the OpenDNS server IP address and not the router's IP address, so I'll test this at home.
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The n66u build its own DNS, and onte you know the IP there is no more look up. That said, you only have a 20mbps connection so your upload is probably dismal, terrible for input lag. Also, with only 20mbs you are probably not connecting well to the Grid servers which are only in California during the beta. OnLive, however, has servers distributed across the country. That's probably why you're experiencing issues. I love in Texas, pretty far away, but I also have a 150/150 connection which means the experience is nearly lag free and I up it to 1080p.
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From NVidia website, the requirement is a minimum of 10Mbps, which I have double that. Lurking the GeoForce forum, people are successfull connecting to GRID with less than 50 Mbps.
If NVidia REQUIRE 50Mbps, I'd think they will state that. Furthermore, the GRID Network Testing app shows I have "excellent" connection. If I don't, the app will not start any of the game. I.e. for fun, I tested by connecting the tablet to my phone's 4G connection and GRID said I have less than 8 Mbps AND high ping. No GRID games can be started.
I know OnLive have distributed servers, but I live less than 40 miles away from San Jose and have less than 40ms ping time (25ms to be exact). Again, this is from NVidia's website.
I begun to think the WiFi issue caused the instability. It seems that GRID requires the perfect connection constantly, which is hard to get since wireless network is prone to error due to how it behaves, not to mention the "crowded" airwave. Problem is, some tablet have horrible Wi-Fi connection, as posted in other threads. Though this is just a theory.
Anyone with my Internet speed able to successfully play GRID?
Just did a test on my office network (100+ Mbps fiber optics, super low ping, sometimes we do LAN party here). Cisco AP with 5Ghz connection.
Test 1: works great! smooth 30fps on every game
Waited 10 minutes ....
Test 2: 3 fps....
Reboot...waited 15 minutes
Test 3: 3 fps....
Reboot.. forgot about it for 1 hour...
Test 4: works great!
So this point to the tablet and not the network. Either Wi-fi issue or something in the OS, it's just not consistent.
Anyone can chime in if they have consistent result based on my settings above?

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