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The phone that will end all

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They say the same for every new phone yet we still find the need to prepare ourselves for the newer iPhone. >.> Give anything a couple months then it'll be fodder for the beasts to come.

It won't end anything. iPhone is known for it's easy to use software, an average consumer isn't going to buy a Quad Core Android they will buy a sleek and easy to use smartphone. But yes, this will make all those "IPHONE IS SO COOL AND FASTER THAN ANDROID" iFags shut up.

I thought all new ICS phones would be without soft keys at the bottom...
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Hmmm, well it will surely be interesting to compare the Qualcomm CPU's with the TEGRA 3 one.
I'll be the first testing that phone !

HeavenlyWinds said:
It won't end anything. iPhone is known for it's easy to use software, an average consumer isn't going to buy a Quad Core Android they will buy a sleek and easy to use smartphone. But yes, this will make all those "IPHONE IS SO COOL AND FASTER THAN ANDROID" iFags shut up.
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No it won't, iOS and WP7 run smoother and faster due to full software/hardware optimization. It never was about hardware, android is just ill-optimized.

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No it won't, iOS and WP7 run smoother and faster due to full software/hardware optimization. It never was about hardware, android is just ill-optimized.
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+1. Love Android, but Google is still in it's infancy when it comes to the OS game. That being said, I'll be supporting open source as long as I live. If someone thinks that Android or WP7 is difficult to use, they're obviously iTarded. I respect Apple's ability to create a quality, well polished product, but I'll never support a company who enforces my user experience.

Android is only a year younger than iOS and it still doesn't have the fluidity in its physics like iOS or Windows Phone 7. It would be nice if they would concentrate on making a solid build instead of trying to release the latest and greatest all of the time.
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+1. Love Android, but Google is still in it's infancy when it comes to the OS game. That being said, I'll be supporting open source as long as I live. If someone thinks that Android or WP7 is difficult to use, they're obviously iTarded. I respect Apple's ability to create a quality, well polished product, but I'll never support a company who enforces my user experience.
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WP7 is locked down...

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336704&highlight=edge

Androids Future

It seems Apple is in the lead of this whole patent war nonsense winning against HTC for patents of things like clicking numbers and maps from a message, although HTC has pledged to modify their devices to remove any sort of infringement things just aren't looking good, I mean the iPhone is a nice device and everything but I can't imagine being trapped in that box Apple puts people in, Although HTC makes a great deal of Android powered phones its obvious the main Target is Android itself, The way things are going Im just wondering will there be a future with the Android we all know and love

I live in New Zealand. I just saw a major electronics chain advertising android phones for $109 (about $80 USD). This is in a developed, but isolated, country. Android has a future!!!

Lol it'll be fine since there are still plenty of educated folk around who don't buy Apple s***.

^SO true. Well said.

Why is Apple doing this????? We android users will cut and eat Apple... Long live Android....
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Unfortunately, in singapore, not many people is buying android phones. Reason? All iPhone/iPad users in singapore think that ALL APPLE products are the best, THE END.
And that is very sad if u own a android phone here. Example: Get a SGSII or Sensation XE in singapore and u tell your friends that your phone is better then the iphone and they keep coming up with rubbish excuses.
Sick and tired of this idea that iPhone is the best, cuz its NOT.
Pls samsung or htc, come up with something that will kill the iPhone.

Yes, but one has to think what if HTC cannot sale anymore phones in the US, that's a large collection of Android devices, I would guess Samsung would suffer here aswel, and Apple are just a bunch of sleezy sons of b%?#*$

The SGS2 kills the iPhone, the sensation, the rezound, all kill that little thing, in all fairness the iPhone has good build quality that's all Apple does is makes things look good, what can the iPhone that Android cant? Not the case vise versa people are just being blind all we need is a good looking device that's feels like its real and not plastic and then we win everything

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Yes, but one has to think what if HTC cannot sale anymore phones in the US, that's a large collection of Android devices, I would guess Samsung would suffer here aswel, and Apple are just a bunch of sleezy sons of b%?#*$
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The injunction only applies to HTC phones running android 1.6-2.2. Gingerbread, honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich are not affected, so it is hardly a set back.

heck even Gingerbread 2.3 are unaffected
which is basically all the new phones since late 2010 LMAO!

Ok now Apple has just been awarded an app switching patent, this is not good and states my point that things aren't looking up for us

Funny enough, I still don't fully feel that (at least Samsung phones) Android has that true comfortable multi-tasking. Holding home, for instance, bring up a recently used menu rather than currently running. Going to main screen, then to task manager, then to an open app of choice is a little clunky IMO.
So IMO, Android needs to adapt that true alt-tab style way to browse actually running apps. Nokia had this for ages.

If the Android is so much better than all the others ,then why even care about them ??

gielsgaard said:
If the Android is so much better than all the others ,then why even care about them ??
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Because Apple knows Androids better so they're trying to sabotage it by this patent war to restrict us from the way we use our device and even keep manufacturers from selling them, that's seems to be the plan anyway

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Funny enough, I still don't fully feel that (at least Samsung phones) Android has that true comfortable multi-tasking. Holding home, for instance, bring up a recently used menu rather than currently running. Going to main screen, then to task manager, then to an open app of choice is a little clunky IMO.
So IMO, Android needs to adapt that true alt-tab style way to browse actually running apps. Nokia had this for ages.
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Honeycomb and ICS changed this ...there's a app switching button
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Yea the app switching/task killer is fantastic in ICS. I use it all the time. Great for quick multitasking. You swipe to close kinda ala PalmPre style (they swipe up). Notifications can be removed one at a time CM7 style (swipe to remote).
Apple iOS doesn't hold a candle to Android functionality. You can start to see this when the last Apple update stole most of it from Android. Split keyboard, pfft. Notification Center, pfft.
IMO, let them keep pulling the best ideas from one another until they are both the same great product.
Next iOS update = iWidgets

The future of Android is 3rd pace behind WP8(or whatever the next version will be called) and iOS unless Google can solve the performance and update problems plaguing Android. Android fans can cry all they want about Apple and MS suing various Android OEMs, but fact is Android infringes on a million patents and "open" buzzword isn't a valid defense in the court of law. Android was originally designed to mimic Blackberry until Schmidt realized that iPhone was the future and now Google is working on ripping off WP7 people hub features so I wouldn't be surprised if more lawsuits are ahead once ICS becomes more popular.

iWidgets lol, but I wish Google had a patent for the notification bar Apple clearly ripped it off of android all while they claim vise versa, as for the wp8 comment I think the real argument deals with apple, seeing how wp7 was never really popular, well from what I know, people seem to favor what they know over then what they don't, so IMO wp8 would be number 3

Alternate world without Android

Say that android was never released (or discontinued after initial release as a failure)
What do you think would be
(*) Outcome of the mobile world?
(*) what phone you'd be using?
I think, if Android ceased to exist, ill still be on old Windows Mobile.
Microsoft wouldnt have felt to need to update to WP7 as they had no need to compete with anyone apart from apple.
So as a result WP7 ceases to exist
I think apple would not have introduced multitasking or the fancy new features in their iPhones. They have no one to compete with
I don't think dual core would be high end (1ghz would be high end even in 2012, and would be ground breaking news)
I don't think apple will have released an ipad. They wouldnt need to compete.
I think I would still be using a WM phone if android didn't exist, and have no tablet...
HTC would still be a unknown company that no one has heard of, and they produce phones for carriers
XDA site wont be as popular or well known as now.
The mobile world would still be a few steps behind
More to come ..
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PalmOS will still be dominating the market strong
Apple will have gone bankrupt, as Microsoft couldn't afford to buy out Apple's doomed stock, due Microsoft own low sales of Windows CE v10.1
PalmOS would have been v15.6 by now with new improved GUI and Eye pupil control to select & run Apps from the phone, with voice dictation a voice command perfected even for people with heavy accent
while still keeping the good old fashioned pen, for those that likes to hand write on the screen as before
PalmOS has become open source, and old Apps are still backward compatible with the latest PalmOS
making the life of Doctors and tons of other professional easier without having to wait for new Apps releases to work on the new OS

Without Android I think Apple would be very dominant in the cell phone market.
I don't think there would be many (or nearly as many) lawsuits being thrown around b/c Apple wouldn't feel threatened.
I don't think the iPhone would really be changed as much though. Apple has a very strong almost cult following that will shell out the money every year for a new device so I don't think they really need to succumb to the trends of the market. If anything I agree they wouldn't have multitasking and probably no dual core processor.
Sadly I'd probably own an iPhone

What would happen if no one ever created bread?!

ihellion said:
What would happen if no one ever created bread?!
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I can haz no sammiches?

ihellion said:
What would happen if no one ever created bread?!
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Plenty of cultures don't make use of bread.
If there was no Android, I'd probably be using an iPhone.

Etrick said:
I can haz no sammiches?
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No PB&J, the humanities!
bleach168 said:
Plenty of cultures don't make use of bread.
If there was no Android, I'd probably be using an iPhone.
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Plenty of cultures don't have power, I think we'd be OK, and people would have innovated another type of smart phone OS. I think a better question is "What has Android done to change the market, and maybe the world?"

Windows Phone would be around but be different in Name/Look... iOS wouldn't be as rushed to add MMS and so on.. SO it would look the same (surprise surprise) but with some missing features. Windows Mobile OS would probably continue the look of 6.5 with overall changes to compete with iOS...
Overall Android caused a lot of thinking for both Apple and Microsoft ... If only we can see into a world like that... Now im curious

The iPhone can't be on the top forever, can it?

It seems that ever since January of 2007, when Apple revealed the rumored iPhone that they have been on top of the mobile game. Even before the phone was even for sale, it literally became the most hyped device in the world. Well its been over 5 years and Apple continues to control the mobile tech game.
But this can't last forever can it? Let's think about the mass popularity of Blackberrys and Sidekicks. Blackberry is a dying brand and sidekick's aren't even relavent in 2012.
Check out this article that explains a few new technologies in development as well as some proposed concepts that can make Apple the old thing.
"The iPhone was a life-changing device for many. Nobody can deny Apple’s ingenuity. But just like Apple wiped out the competition in 2007, any manufacturer could harness an advanced technology that could make the iPhone a thing of the past."
[Article] : http://brobuffet.com/2012/07/13/the-next-tech-takeover/
Tell me your opinion
Do you believe the Apple iPhone will continue to be the most popular device? Or will something eventually come along in 5-10 years and just take over the market?
I think this is a big question because many of us speak of how Apple will eventually have the iPhone 10 but we never consider the competition.

I personally feel that apple has its days numbered with the following that certain android based phones are gathering. HTC and Samsung alike are well on their ways to EVENTUALLY topple apple.
I give it three years, apple wont be on top, but will still be relevant. Unless apple changes the game a bit, 10 years and we may be saying "apple who?" There's only so many times you can sell a different variation of a general idea.
Just my opinion
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People choose iPhone due to awesome user experience having no performance glitch. Project Butter brings that to Jelly Bean. So, I think.. Android is going to take crown this time.
What I like most: Android users have big choice of hardware specs. If you purchase any digital content from Play Store (or, Amazon App Store), you can use them on large no. of devices which is not true with iTunes case!

SachinShekhar said:
People choose iPhone due to awesome user experience having no performance glitch. Project Butter brings that to Jelly Bean. So, I think.. Android is going to take crown this time.
What I like most: Android users have big choice of hardware specs. If you purchase any digital content from Play Store (or, Amazon App Store), you can use them on large no. of devices which is not true with iTunes case!
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Not to mention the amount of customization you have with an android device. If you're rooted, customization is endless.
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I have but one statement to add to this:
If HTC and Samsung wasn't doing so well in the smartphone market, why does Apple keep trying to sue them for anything they can?
Hell, even the Gooapple v5, although a Chinese knockoff, is still a better phone to me just because it runs Android and not iOS.
Say or think what you may, but android should be able to corner the market inside of 12-18 months based on the amount of users alone. No more desktops, no more laptops, and net books with touchscreens that run Android 3.2 for those that want a keyboard...
The future is in your hands, brandish it like a weapon and show it off to every iPhone user you know.
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fyi , Android owns over 50% of the world market for the last 2 years at least. Its now around 61% and only 29% for Apple.

I just came from an iPhone 4 to an HTC one x as my first Android device. Just about everyone I actually know that's closely related to me has an iPhone as well.
One thing I've noticed about them is that they don't really seem to care what the latest features of Android are compared to the iPhone. Even when I gloat about what my phone can do compared to their's they just don't seem quite as convinced or impressed by it.
Their only argument for staying with the iPhone is the app store, which I must agree is quite impressive. The also seem to have a misconception that Android is hard to navigate or use compared to iPhone. to some degree it is true, but I wouldn't say it's hard, its just not as user friendly as ios.
Apple will probably retain a lead until they mess up big time with their phone. I feel that moment is coming soon. The os look and feel is extremely outdated in my opinion. They need a new layout for their home screen and something different to keep it fresh.
Also I would like to mention from a personal experience that iPhone is great out the box whereas Android isn't good until you root and throw some great roms on it.
I'm tired of typing on my phone now.
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No, they won't. Samsung outsold Apple in Q1 this year. It will happen again. Instead of innovating Apple seems content to litigate and steal, meaning that they aren't bringing anything fresh to the table. People will eventually get tired of shelling out money for new iPhones with almost no appreciable differences. What will the next iPhone offer? A slightly larger screen, UI upgrades stolen wholesale from Android, maps purchased from elsewhere, and most likely 4G. Nothing cutting edge and nothing that isn't already offered in a plethora of forms in other devices.
Granted, it will take some people time to break away, especially those heavily invested in iOS apps, but it will happen. If all Google offered from its Nexus line were the same phone year after year with only minor changes how many Android users would see any need to continually upgrade? If Android users had no choice but to buy a new device every two years so that it could actually function on the newest OS how many of us would continue to support them? Androids weak point has been manufacturers and carriers not getting the new Android versions out to devices, but as devs have made clear the hardware itself is plenty capable of utilizing whatever Google brings us. That's something that iOS can't claim. Heck, even a number of newer iDevices had major issues with iOS 5. Dinosaurs will die and Apple is sounding its own dirge by refusing to stay competitive and treating its customers like idiots.

enviii said:
Also I would like to mention from a personal experience that iPhone is great out the box whereas Android isn't good until you root and throw some great roms on it.
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I wouldn't quite say so.
Android can run widgets, live wallpaper, custom lockscreens, different launchers, change default apps like MMS/SMS, browser, dialer, camera, etc., out of the box no rooting required.
iOS needs to be jailbroken for those features. And they still don't have widgets, except for those "widgets" in the notification pulldown (which was a complete copy of Android 1.5).
The iPhone 5 will supposedly have a 4 inch screen. The original galaxy S phones from 2010 had 4 inch screens, and the OG Droid from 2009 had a 3.7 inch screen which is bigger than the current iPhone (4S).
Apple will fall soon. A couple of years give or take
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MissionImprobable said:
No, they won't. Samsung outsold Apple in Q1 this year. It will happen again. Instead of innovating Apple seems content to litigate and steal, meaning that they aren't bringing anything fresh to the table. People will eventually get tired of shelling out money for new iPhones with almost no appreciable differences. What will the next iPhone offer? A slightly larger screen, UI upgrades stolen wholesale from Android, maps purchased from elsewhere, and most likely 4G. Nothing cutting edge and nothing that isn't already offered in a plethora of forms in other devices.
Granted, it will take some people time to break away, especially those heavily invested in iOS apps, but it will happen. If all Google offered from its Nexus line were the same phone year after year with only minor changes how many Android users would see any need to continually upgrade? If Android users had no choice but to buy a new device every two years so that it could actually function on the newest OS how many of us would continue to support them? Androids weak point has been manufacturers and carriers not getting the new Android versions out to devices, but as devs have made clear the hardware itself is plenty capable of utilizing whatever Google brings us. That's something that iOS can't claim. Heck, even a number of newer iDevices had major issues with iOS 5. Dinosaurs will die and Apple is sounding its own dirge by refusing to stay competitive and treating its customers like idiots.
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Exactly. Androids strength is also a weakness. Variety and choice comes with a price. Apple's sole control over their device and OS allows them to easily roll out updates, whereas with Android, Google, in a way, is at the mercy of manufacturers and carries. Or perhaps it's the other way around?
So what if ICS and JB take while to get official support. Open source development takes care of that problem. In fact, I think it's safe to say that user/ community made ROMs are probably better than official releases.

my girlfriends sister's boyfriend has an Iphone, and he said he wants to get the new one. Now my girlfriends sister wants to get an Iphone also. Listen to the reasons behind their wants.
boyfriend - I want the new Iphone because I can easily sync my music from itunes
girlfriends sister - I want the new Iphone just because (we all know its because her boyfriend has one LOL)
is this really what apple has going for them? easy sync of music, same OS on every device, little bit bigger screen and a new maps app because they're mad at google for "stealing" from them? apple is a garbage company that over-prices everything and gives their customers a piece of **** in a box.
oh get this LOL also my girlfriends sister has had an IMac laptop or whatever you call it for a couple of years now, 2 times she had to change the hard drive. that is hella sad considering the hard drive is one and only piece of permanent storage pieces in a computer.

enviii said:
Their only argument for staying with the iPhone is the app store, which I must agree is quite impressive. The also seem to have a misconception that Android is hard to navigate or use compared to iPhone. to some degree it is true, but I wouldn't say it's hard, its just not as user friendly as ios.
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I totally agree. If someone can't figure out how to connect to wifi with an android phone, they're not going to magically figure it out if you hand them an iPhone. The process is the exact same no matter which platform you are on. I guess most people haven't tried ICS, because it is just as easy to use as any other OS.
In fact, in a few ways, Android is more user friendly. For example, making a ringtone from an mp3 is fairly easy on Android. Doing the same in iOS or WP7 is a nightmare. Managing music is easier if you know how to drag and drop into folders. Once they start putting NFC chips in bluetooth devices, pairing will be super easy for Android too.

iPhone screen size = 3.5" = $600
Android equivalents in terms of screen size:
Galaxy Y = 3.0" = <$30
LG Optimus Me = 2.8" = <$10
Lenovo A60 = 3.5" = <$30
See. ALL of the iPhones android equivalents are LOW END phones! They are all GB/FroYo! In terms of screen size, Apple needs to step up and release a 4.3" iPhone ASAP.

OptimusLove said:
iPhone screen size = 3.5" = $600
Android equivalents in terms of screen size:
Galaxy Y = 3.0" = <$30
LG Optimus Me = 2.8" = <$10
Lenovo A60 = 3.5" = <$30
See. ALL of the iPhones android equivalents are LOW END phones! They are all GB/FroYo! In terms of screen size, Apple needs to step up and release a 4.3" iPhone ASAP.
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Samsung makes the panels for the iPhone... I would love to see apple go to another vendor, increase screen size and start selling those phones, just so Samsung can sue them for patent infringement due to screen size and technology... that would be the lol of the year!
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what if iPhone gets Android, can someone port it.....lolz..

People already have booted Android on iPhones. Android is open for anyone who wishes to develop and use it.

MissionImprobable said:
People already have booted Android on iPhones. Android is open for anyone who wishes to develop and use it.
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This is true, and proof can be found in the case of all the Gooapple units sold. Its essentially the same as an iPhone with the exception of the processor AFAIK...
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I also see the iPhone lagging behind its competition in the future. What game changers did Apple introduce to the iPhone
in the last years? FaceTime? lol
They can't come up with something special every time they release a new one. They are also very limited with the way they can
change the whole thing. It's no coincidence that they stuck with the same screen size for so long. If you make it bigger it's not
really "the iPhone" anymore. I think they are very careful with making such drastic changes which, as I said, limits their innovation.

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People already have booted Android on iPhones. Android is open for anyone who wishes to develop and use it.
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Yeah Android is open for anyone, but this doesn't grants officially update's for all smartphone!

misbah711 said:
what if iPhone gets Android, can someone port it.....lolz..
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http://code.google.com/p/iphodroid/

(off-topic)apple's first android phone

all know that apple is the world's most famous, loved and reliable company. Has great fan following but when i consider or even think of b s we uying an IDEVICE....i think of loosing all the customization and tweaks i use to do with my own samsung device......i purchased Galaxy note2 few months back and if i compare it now in market, there are almost 5 devices which look exactly same as my Galaxy note2, and how can i forget the build quality(cheap plastic **** all over them).
Being a hardcore gamer i purchased a quadcore device thinking i would be able to play all games(earlier i had tab2 dual core) but now question arises is AM I HAPPY WITH GAMING EXP.?
certainly not. There are lot of title which are not on android and also here THD games into the picture costly galaxy devices doesn't support THD titles but how cum all these are playable on IDEVICES? We all know this but without any lags unbelievable
IOS VS ANDROID less extreme
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less very high
tweaks and fun
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highy stable less ''
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less devs lot ''
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samsung- keeps cheating apple and increasing sales and earning a lot.
apple- crying and suing samsung
Court-no result
apple vs samsung big fight but apple don't cheat....lol....who cares people want quality this is what samsung does
don't u guys think its the time to return the favour back and apple should take a big step and launch its first android device
like htc did, they are lauching windows as well as android devices playing on both's sides
WHO CARES? MONEY AND CUSTOMERS SATISFACTION SHOULD BE THE FIRST PRIORITY.
MY QUESTIONS
will this ever happen?
If yes u are ready to buy such device?
Nice Quote:never get too attached to things(IOS) otherwise up will get outdated
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I'm very curious how games developed for Tegra devices work on iOS.

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all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.

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all know that apple is the world's most ... loved ... company
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Absolutely incorrect, not at all the world's most loved company at all. Everyone hates the fact that they can get away with releasing the same thing each year with the same 5-year-old OS and no innovation and still make the best-selling phone of the year.
No, Apple will never release a device with Android. That's completely absurd. It would be like Microsoft announcing their new Surface which runs Ubuntu out of the box.
Now, I don't actually know what the point of this thread is but the entire bit in the middle is a bit difficult to understand, maybe you could try a different translator?
Finally, the reason games work smoother on iOS is because of app optimisation. It helps that the iPhone has a great GPU but the main reason is that devs only have to optimise their apps for a small range of phones on the App store whereas the apps on the Play store have to work for hundreds of different phones with different chipsets. You get things like Tegra optimised apps but not much more.
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I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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I tried to create a comparision b/w Android and iOS but since xda apk auto arranges the text it looks like a mess..... by the way what do think people will buy apple running android (if situation)
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