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currently i am using samung wave.
the hardware is good, but i dont like the bada os.
does anyone know if there will be an android hack for wave? probably the galaxy s firmware
Nice Idea But i do not know yet
Good idea samsung wave with galaxy firmware, when, please
would also really appreciate such a firmware.
the hardware is so close to the GalaxyS, so it doesn't seem to be impossible ..
the hardware of this phone ist so great, the case is so good looking metal, and the display is the best beside the Galaxy S - it would really deserve a cool modding dev, that brings android to it.
If you can gain root and install a linux kernel, yes. However, looking at the work it's taking to install android on the hd2, with the highly customizable windows mobile OS, it's almost definitely not gonna happen with bada OS when there's a perfectly viable alternative (Galaxy S)
i buyed this phone yesterday. its perfect hardware for Android . i hope someone finds a solution to install android os on it soon.
Me three? Or four? Any devs interested?
If it had an official Samsung release of 2.2 froyo I would get the phone in a heartbeat. Pipedreams. Wouldn't mind the screen being just a tad bigger with less color saturation also.
Hi All,
Check out this thread as there is a lot of people wanting Android on the Samsung Wave and are will to donate to see it happen. Maybe post in that thread to show your support.
Ok turns out I cannot post links yet. So go to the thread 'samsung wave instead of galaxy s?'
If we have enough people will to donate maybe we can get the attention of someone like Cyanogenmod [dot][com]
We want Android on Samsung Wave!
Hi fellas.
I want this to happen too!!
IF YOU ARE ON FACEBOOK Then please join my page titled:
"We want Android on Samsung Wave!"
if you want Android on Samsung Wave!
Wave has everything on the hardware front, a Smart-phone lover's dream come true!! but It's the crippled software that bottle-necks what could truly be an Iphone killer!
So please Samsung..Do the right (and rational) thing!!
and unleash the Wave S8500 with Android support!!
this will turn your wave into a Killer Wave!! &
It will make you No.1 in smart-phone league!!
If you wanted android..why did you buy the samsung wave in the first place? you should have bought the galaxy S...
cause I want a good build phone with a flash.
I second NHS2008. I would also add that the Wave is 30% cheaper than the Samsung Galaxy S/i9000 and is basically the same phone with a smaller screen.
Android on the Samsung Wave would be fantastic!
Maybe u can donate me some money big mouth so that i can buy something better than the galaxy of course
hmm
.lol at last comment.
I have been seeing these posts all over the web for some time now with people wanting android on their WAVE fones.
I beleive it is possible, just no one has done it yet because the galaxy is around.
I am not just guessing, as i have ventured into the file system on my fone many times in the past.
The Galaxy, runs its 'root software' that then loads up Android, Making it an Android fone.
Want some good news ?
The wave is running this exact same 'root software'.
Most of the files are the same, the folder structures are the same. everything except the wave has different configuration files and of course the addition of the Bada platform and different hardware drivers.
Yep bada is nothing more than a platform, so to speak.
Think of it like this,
Lets pretend the old DOS is a 'root software'.
And windows v3 and windows 95 were both platforms (or GUI's, however u want to look at it).
Once upon a time, you would have a hard drive that would load into DOS, which you could then choose load your windows 3.1 (the old day, hehe).
Then came windows 95 that would startup and go straight into windows, right ?
Wrong.
Win95 also started up with Dos, then loaded windows 95. Just was dont in a way that same it look seemless (when it didn't BSOD on ya ).
A quick change to configuration files, and you could stop that win95 autoload feature, and it too would boot into the DOS it was actually starting with, giving you the option to run which ever windows you had on hand.
Now if your still following me
Both the Galaxy and the WAVE are starting up with the same 'DOS/root-software', then their config files are telling one to load the 'Android Platform/Windows v3', and the other is telling it to load the 'Bada Platform/Windows 95'.
Thats the best way i can think of putting it to explain it.
So the theory is, Remove the Bada files, And copy the android files on, and update the root-software's config files to point to the Android ones at startup.
Or even better, leave both file sets on there and create a startup menu that would allow the user to choose if they want to boot into Bada or Android.
Dont beleive me ?
Go ahead, compare the files and file structures for the 'root software' area's on both the galaxy and the wave. they are the same, because both fones start up the same, the main difference is the platform it tells the fone to load after startup, and the driver settings for each fones hardware.
I hope this has helped,
as i was getting tired of seeing people say android on the wave isn't possible and never will be because they're 2 totally different fones.
Feel much better now i've gotten that out.
lol
loxbus said:
.lol at last comment.
I have been seeing these posts all over the web for some time now with people wanting android on their WAVE fones.
I beleive it is possible, just no one has done it yet because the galaxy is around.
I am not just guessing, as i have ventured into the file system on my fone many times in the past.
The Galaxy, runs its 'root software' that then loads up Android, Making it an Android fone.
Want some good news ?
The wave is running this exact same 'root software'.
Most of the files are the same, the folder structures are the same. everything except the wave has different configuration files and of course the addition of the Bada platform and different hardware drivers.
Yep bada is nothing more than a platform, so to speak.
Think of it like this,
Lets pretend the old DOS is a 'root software'.
And windows v3 and windows 95 were both platforms (or GUI's, however u want to look at it).
Once upon a time, you would have a hard drive that would load into DOS, which you could then choose load your windows 3.1 (the old day, hehe).
Then came windows 95 that would startup and go straight into windows, right ?
Wrong.
Win95 also started up with Dos, then loaded windows 95. Just was dont in a way that same it look seemless (when it didn't BSOD on ya ).
A quick change to configuration files, and you could stop that win95 autoload feature, and it too would boot into the DOS it was actually starting with, giving you the option to run which ever windows you had on hand.
Now if your still following me
Both the Galaxy and the WAVE are starting up with the same 'DOS/root-software', then their config files are telling one to load the 'Android Platform/Windows v3', and the other is telling it to load the 'Bada Platform/Windows 95'.
Thats the best way i can think of putting it to explain it.
So the theory is, Remove the Bada files, And copy the android files on, and update the root-software's config files to point to the Android ones at startup.
Or even better, leave both file sets on there and create a startup menu that would allow the user to choose if they want to boot into Bada or Android.
Dont beleive me ?
Go ahead, compare the files and file structures for the 'root software' area's on both the galaxy and the wave. they are the same, because both fones start up the same, the main difference is the platform it tells the fone to load after startup, and the driver settings for each fones hardware.
I hope this has helped,
as i was getting tired of seeing people say android on the wave isn't possible and never will be because they're 2 totally different fones.
Feel much better now i've gotten that out.
lol
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Could you provide a little bit more information on how to do this. Programs needed and links on where to get them.
Sorry but I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to phones.
Thanks in advance.
i have S5333 wave too, still waitting to change w/ Android.
is posible to inject kernel via JTAG ..?
So in this thread it tells you how to install pc operating systems like windows and linux on the Evo 3D.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459153
This, is freaking awesome. This one is a big breakthrough.
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Here is the thread in the Nook Color forums for ubuntu on the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055954
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These two threads are native installs, not using some client to access the installation, the device itself is the client as it should be.
This is not some chrooted virtual OS simulation, but the real deal installed to the device.
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In the back of my mind i've wanted to play with ubuntu installed on the MT4GS, but not a virtual installation I want it installed and running on the device natively.
I definitely don't have the time to do this and a lot i'm trying to do around here even if I wasn't in my busy season for work.
Dropping this information so I can find it later when I do get to trying to get ubuntu (and now windows XP looks like a possibility) installed on this device.
If anyone else feels like looking into this, here's a good place to start. If anyone comes across any other projects that are the real deal and not virtual installs please post links here.
Have fun!
Blue6IX said:
So in this thread it tells you how to install pc operating systems like windows and linux on the Evo 3D.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459153
This, is freaking awesome. This one is a big breakthrough.
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Here is the thread in the Nook Color forums for ubuntu on the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1055954
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These two threads are native installs, not using some client to access the installation, the device itself is the client as it should be.
This is not some chrooted virtual OS simulation, but the real deal installed to the device.
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In the back of my mind i've wanted to play with ubuntu installed on the MT4GS, but not a virtual installation I want it installed and running on the device natively.
I definitely don't have the time to do this and a lot i'm trying to do around here even if I wasn't in my busy season for work.
Dropping this information so I can find it later when I do get to trying to get ubuntu (and now windows XP looks like a possibility) installed on this device.
If anyone else feels like looking into this, here's a good place to start. If anyone comes across any other projects that are the real deal and not virtual installs please post links here.
Have fun!
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Regardless of what impression you may have, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE to run MSWin on ARM hardware natively. The reason for this is that MSWin is x86 and ARM is... ARM. The approach used in the first link is to use BOCHS (pronounced "Box"), which is a VIRTUAL HARDWARE EMULATOR. It requires a host operating system to be functioning in the background, in this case Linux.
As for Ubuntu... well sure. No problem. Its Linux and the phone runs Linux. Not that big of a stretch to replace the Android parts with GNU.
Note that NONE of this is any kind of "great breakthrough". Bochs has been around for a VERY long time. First OPEN SOURCED in early 2000. Yeah, 12 years ago. As for Ubuntu... well I suppose that the main reason that most people aren't making a native android replacement out of ubuntu, is that not many people are all that interested in it. Cute in theory, but not practical.
What would be a more worthy project would be to upgrade android to GNU libraries and utilities. This would afford us an actually USEFUL balance between the two. Also the ability to run X *through* android without having to do stupid things like VNC. Have the proper interface ***AS AN ANDROID APPLICATION***, leaving Android to work (i.e., phone calls, etc.) while simultaneously offering the standard Linux applications.
My thought though, is that this is becoming less and less important. Firefox is on Android now, the Document foundation has announced LibreOffice for Android -- supposed to be by late 2012 to early 2013... GIMP has no place on Android... That certainly covers the basics.
Appreciate the post. I didn't have time to dig into it too deeply, so took it at face value for the impression I got. Happened to come across it in passing and didn't want to lose track of something vital to the future dev of a project like this on the doubleshot. (but definitely this doesn't belong in the dev section at this time - just clutter there.)
I was hoping people would add to it, especially the way you have, who had more of an understanding of what's going on there - I didn't realize that it was a virtual environment for the windows stuff, but it did seem to good to be true.
Even if no one responded I figured the thread would get pushed down out of the way, but still be here when I got the time to come back to it.
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My reason for running native linux on the device itself is to be able to use the Android SDK and tools without needing a computer to do so. I have 2 of these phones and a Nook Color. The NC has USB host support, so I could plug the doubleshot into it without frying either device. (yes, i'm blending android and linux concepts here - but usb host support in android shows that it's capable of doing it)
Even from one doubleshot to the other I could use wifi adb for a lot of stuff without plugging them into each other through USB and frying the phones. So that would be a victory as well.
The lack of a hardware charging circuit in the doubleshot makes the worry of frying the phones a big deal, power transfer through USB is a big hurdle to jump in management.
Beyond that - the doubleshot is powerful enough on hardware specs to be able to compile a kernel, but that's not gonna happen through a virtual linux install because the overhead is too much. A native install might just be able to do it though. Won't know until I try, but it's worth the work to get to the point of trying, even if it doesn't work out.
The Nook Color probably won't be able to compile a kernel - it's asking too much from a device not really able to handle that.
Getting what I mentioned above to work would mean I could do all my dev work with what fits in my pocket, and let me keep working wherever I am.
I do like the idea of an app to work with this through Android itself - but I don't see how I could use the SDk and variety of user-created tools without a native linux install. Worth pursuing either way though.
If anyone has anything to add, i'd be welcome to hear it. Just understand this is not a project i'm working on or actively pursuing right now - but fully intend to down the line.
Actually blue. There is a thread somewhere that has a step by step on installing ubuntu on gingerbread. I meant to add it when I added the backtrack link. For some reason I didn't, I probably forgot, I actually think the link for it is in the backtrack thread in the sticky.
If I do find it ill let you know.
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Hi all,
I have a Archos 9 PC tablet with windows 7 starter ... I would like find a way to put android on it. Someone can say me if is possible ?
Thx a lot for your answers
Gougz,
If it's an x86 processor (Intel, which I guess it would be), you should check out the Androidx86 project. I have an old EeePC that is running Honeycomb, and it had an Intel Celeron processor. See www (dot) android-x86 (dot) org for more details. I am not sure about your exact device, but somewhere there might be a guide for it. From my experience the Eeepc implementation isn't ideal, but is mostly functional. Since I've been a lurker for most of my time on here, I can't post functional links... sorry.
Good luck,
Tom
Thx, I do a first try with the "live & installation iso for atom tablets like Tegav2/Viewpad10 " but no way without keyboard, tablet have only one usb port. I will try tomorow with hub usb & keyboard.
I come back when I sucessfully
sry for bad english, I really try to write good ...
I've read up some more on the Archos 9 at Ax86's site and it sounds like people are having problems with the touch screen being functional and/or the mouse. Try the hub and let me know if you have any luck-- it looks they've added to their available RCs since the last time I visited so maybe you'll have more luck that the people on this forum: groups (dot) google [daut] com/group/android-x86/browse_thread/thread/95fe1c1cef0314d3/eaac22b5d88462da?#eaac22b5d88462da I really would like to see the x86 project take off personally. Maybe there are some more people XDA that figure out what device is the touchscreen on the Archos 9. Someone at x86 mentioned they thought its connected through PS/2 which sounds like it would make it really hard to get it working, but Linux drivers _do_ exist for it. I might be picking up an Archos in the future sometime soon.
Yesterday I have try many version but no touchscreen available. I have use hub usb, usb key with unetbootin and keyboard. Installation is good. On the 3.0, I can use keyboard and mousse but always no touchscreen. I will follow this thread for any news, I hope too some progress. I will try now to find a linux version maybe I will be more lucky with touchscreen
Thx a lot for help me to try this.
Hi Folks
Just wondering if anyone has seriously considered or is using android on the desktop?
Hear me out here!
Since stopping using windows as my main desktop OS about 18 months ago, I've been enjoying all the fruits that open source has to offer. I think I must have trying nearly every flavour of Debian/Ubuntu distro's and currently using some Mint/Gnome 2 setup. partly due to Unity's immaturity as Multihead desktop and probably part of me can't let go of that "Start" menu analog.
Through all my "testing" however I've still not settled on the right desktop/development environment, I've tried them all, really, I feel like I given pretty much every Window Manager out there a go, I especially like the blank canvas of openbox although I've got real work to do as well, so configuration wise It's not something I want to know right now
Part of my issue is I've got a what I would consider a bit of an edge case when I comes to setup. My current setup is over 3 Monitors ( I was considering 6 but thought I might get whiplash from moving my head too much :laugh: )
Right now I live my live mostly in Terminal Windows and Bash Prompts and do most of my hacking In gedit with some plugins ( maybe not the most productive but it's kinda of working for me at the minute )
After giving the Android x86 project, It got me thinking whether It would be a viable option. I know android certainly has the capability to run over multiple monitors although whether I would have to do a bit of hacking on the Framebuffer internals ( add extra ones etc ) has yet to be investigated.
With regards Android Development it kinda of makes sense to Develop right there in it's native environment ( I'm talking Kernel/System Level here not apps) . Compiling the AOSP etc should still be the same process.
So Yeah, Android on the Desktop - Discuss
I'd be interested if anyone has been crazy/foolhardy/patient enough to go down this road and are just keeping quiet about it and If there's any gotcha's etc to think about before embarking on such a mission.
Android is better off on smartphones and Tablets and Windows in better off on Desktops and Laptops.
As Im an avid gamer, I wouldnot mind having Android on my Desktop. Android has limited no. of good games but Windows dont.
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www dot apc dot io
Hope that answers your question.
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www.apc.io
Hope that answers your question.
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Thanks, That's the kinda of thing, I was not aware of this project/product ( although still vapourware til next month ) At least I'm not crazy for thinking it
I spent a week or 2 only using an hp touchpad, to see if I could get away using it as a desktop replacement.
The biggest problem I found is that the apps aren't really designed for serious productivity. Google docs is great for viewing things, but is very irresponsive on large documents, and doesn't like fancy formatting. Browsing was a nightmare. I had 3 or 4 different browsers, because each had different plugins, flash support, user agents, etc. Many browsers were unstable, and flash always caused random crashes and other weird problems. Gmail is useless for attachements, and there is no reasonable text editor.
It's doable, but you may have to spend a while finding apps to replicate all the functionality you expect from your PC.
trevd said:
Thanks, That's the kinda of thing, I was not aware of this project/product ( although still vapourware til next month ) At least I'm not crazy for thinking it
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Your welcome. I am thinking on getting this for the fact to support the devs on the product.
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As a desktop replacement I'm not so sure but Android can definitely work as a netbook replacements.
It also depends what you use ur desktop for. Anything more that web browsing and email, I'll still prefer having a full fledged OS on it.
theInfected1 said:
As a desktop replacement I'm not so sure but Android can definitely work as a netbook replacements.
It also depends what you use ur desktop for. Anything more that web browsing and email, I'll still prefer having a full fledged OS on it.
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An android desktop could do mail, web browsing, multimedia, usenet or torrent downloads, games, dlna streaming, ebook reading and text editing (writing, creating pdf, etcetera) well.
It would not be able to do some of the things a desktop can do such as transcode video, run open office, use pc accessories, etcetera.
This is primarily because android is a mobile oriented os though it's likely that other than the use of pc accessories developers will write apps to get android doing even more as it is now a very popular tablet os and tablets often get used as a pc does.
Android could be a desktop for general everyday use right now but not for everyone.
For now windows and linux still beat android for both software, peripheral support and overall os speed making those better options however its also easier to have a new user mess those up than it is to mess up android so for general use it could be a good option.
Dave
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Short version: Currently, I would say no. In the future (2+ years minimum), I highly expect Android to compete for the desktop. It comes down to software moreso than hardware.
TL;DR version: Let me start by saying I've owned quite a few Android smartphones, and I've worked on twice as many for friends, family, etc. I've also owned a couple of Android tablets. Without trying to sound too cynical, let's just say I've been around the block when it comes to Android devices When it comes to phones, Android is as perfect as any OS could be. With it always improving, there's always more to love. For tablets, the experience didn't come off to a great start, but there have surely been improvements since. The first high-end tablets, as well as cheap alternatives, ran on Gingerbread or older. My first cheapo tablet ran on a rare version of Android 2.0 Eclair. Let me tell you, it wasn't pleasant at all! I decided to wait for Honeycomb to come out before trying another tablet, and that's when I picked up an Acer Iconia A500 with the sole intention being to use it like I'd use a computer. The only computer I had at the time was a 10" Acer netbook, so once I bought the tablet, I sold the netbook right away. Now, I will admit that I waited a little bit to see how Honeycomb took off. By the time I got my Iconia, 3.2 was just coming out. In order to completely replace any kind of computer, I knew I would need at least 3 accessories: a stand, keyboard, and mouse. In my initial research, I learned that Android 3.0 didn't have mouse support by default. This was fixed by the dev community here, and Google was prompt to add mouse support in the 3.1 update. So by the time I had my Iconia running 3.2, everything appeared to be ready as far as being a PC replacement. Or so I thought. One major reason I picked the A500 over other tablets was the fact that it had a full-size USB port right on the tablet itself, whereas others either didn't have one at all (Xoom, Galaxy Tab), or it was only available on the keyboard dock (Transformer). As a computer replacement, USB was important to me. It didn't take long for me to realize that a tablet as a PC replacement wasn't the most ideal choice at the time. While there are plenty of apps available to perform many different tasks, the real problem I had was with the way Android itself handled. The apps were more than good enough. There's email, web browsing, multimedia, word processing, etc. The problem is the way Android feels with a keyboard and mouse. One major problem for me was that Android has no proper right-click support with mice. It simply works like a back button. I feel that right-click would be more natural as the functionality of a long press. Another issue I was constantly trying to deal with was the amount of clicks required to complete simple tasks. I could do the same tasks twice as fast on any computer running Windows or Linux. This caused more frustration than anything else. File managers were generally really good - there's actually a couple that I really like a lot, but navigation was always an issue. It wasn't only file managers, but within several areas. Once again, this goes back to needing more clicks for the same tasks, and long pressing where a simple right-click would feel better. While the move to ICS was a huge improvement in performance, it didn't really solve anything with productivity and ease of use. USB support was also hit or miss, and a lot of it has to do with drivers. Now that's understandable, as most hardware venders don't expect Android to be the host OS. Hopefully this changes some day. Eventually I ended up trading the tablet and all the accessories for a mid-range laptop which I use now. I have this system triple-booting between Windows, Linux, and Android (android-x86.org). The same problems I faced with the tablet, I also face with ICS on my laptop. I find myself only booting to Android once in a blue moon, and it's always just to show off to my friends. Any real work is done with one of my other OS's. There's definitely a lot of potential with the Android platform as a desktop OS, but I feel like it's still a couple years away at least. There are still a few minor annoyances trying to use Android as a computer that need to be addressed. Maybe by the time Android 6.0 or 7.0 is released, it will put up a good fight for the desktop. Only time will tell. Another viable option is phones that dock to a computer with a desktop interface. Anyone remember Canonical's plans? Also keep in mind Linux kernel 3.3 which adopted Android natively, which is a huge step for Canonical and their Ubuntu-Android dreams.
i have been using android since 2008. The only thing i can tell you is Android can replace netbooks but not laptops and desktop. I used macbook for a year or so but I went back to windows.
HP Touchpad replaced my netbook.70% of the time i use my hp touchpad to chat, browse and play videos.
But when it comes to work or college work I go back to my good ol' desktop or laptop because
google spreadsheet is nowhere near MS Excel
google docs is nowhere near MS Word
fortemcee said:
The only thing i can tell you is Android can replace netbooks but not laptops and desktop.
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I coming to that conclusion...... More for on the move devices, Although there some good stuff going on with the 10ft Experience (Android on TV's) at the moment.
It is also interesting to hear how people interact with their devices,
I'm far from an average user..... If i'm not developing with/on android I don't what to do with it :laugh: I think that's why my tablet has a keyboard and mouse plugged into most of the time
Thanks for the Input.
Bloodflame said:
Short version: Currently, I would say no. In the future (2+ years minimum), I highly expect Android to compete for the desktop. It comes down to software moreso than hardware.
TL;DR version: ...
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Brilliant That's exactly the type of responses I hoped for, a man whose got he's knees dirty in these dam robots on the desktop ... little long but I did read it.
[Short Version] In Summary I'm inclined to agree with you give it a couple of years, As a developer I could probably fix it up but I probably wouldn't be finished before google etc sorted it themselves[Short Version]
Here's a more verbose reply :laugh:
I have seen some 2.x tabs in my time, trailblazers but not nice.... I presume you gave the 1.6 x86 one a go as well then? Just for kicks.
I've been using a mouse and keyboard on my tablet, an Archos G9 through a usb hub which also has full size usb slot..... I've never really twicked onto the mouse lack of context menu/right click being an issue until you pointed it out, I can see how it would become an irritant after a while unless you're a MacUser than one button should be fine
The right mouse button acting the same as long press would be a vast improvement, I'll probably have a look at what development effort is involved in that ( or at least add it to the pile of interesting stuff I want to do with my time )
I've found the keyboard to be useful, Shortcut Keys are generally the same as there desktop counterparts. Take Ctrl+L to type a web address in your browser for example and If I dig around the android source code for a while I'm sure I could find some more unpublished ones or add my own and help on the number of click navigation issues etc .
USB Support is not a problem with each iteration of Android it gets better internally and I'm currently working with the opinion that if a linux driver exists I can compile it and at least get android the recognize the device... I've been deep in the USB Internals with android for the last few months.
On the Androidx86.... I've not checked the project in a while, there maybe have greater focus on solving some on these usability issues.
With regard to phones and docking I do remember canonicals plans ( wasn't that earlier this year) or are you talking about the circa 2009/10?!? ubuntu proposed project to run apks directly on your pc? essentially running the dalvikvm/surfaceflinger framebuffer management, support services on ubuntu with an X Window for the app.
The latter I feel is highly possible especially with android fully "unforked" in the kernel - not looked at the full details but I presume that includes all androids system level binder stuff and their shared memory modules and the former, I think a manufacturer release something called "Android in a Window" (Motorola or LG, maybe) An interactive android window on the desktop... also motorola's Webtop looks interesting.
I've written enough, Thanks for the Input
no one found any way to run android on PC or Laptop ???????
saqi4you said:
no one found any way to run android on PC or Laptop ???????
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It runs in virtualisation fine and there are a few PC's that can run it natively, I would bet Jelly bean will run on x86 without fuss.
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I've had android ICS x86 on my Acer W500 (a windows tablet) for a little while now. It was installed along side the Windows 8 Developer Preview which expired and shuts down after a few minutes of use now. Instead of updating it to the W8 Consumer Preview for more time I just started using ICS full time. With my tablet in the "dock" (which is just a keyboard really) and a mouse hooked up I used it for days as a PC replacement (the power supply in my normal desktop died).
Android would be totally fine as a desktop OS, but apps would have to start being designed with that in mind.
Think about it:
You can't have multiple windows open at once on the screen for serious multitasking. What if I want to have a terminal/command prompt open while I reference a document in the web browser? With android I'm going to be switching between fullscreen apps.
The OS will have to be redesigned to allow for that capability and then new apps will have to be written to able to take advantage of it. Is it possible? Absolutely! Is it ready to be your desktop replacement? Not yet!
deathsled said:
Think about it:
You can't have multiple windows open at once on the screen for serious multitasking. What if I want to have a terminal/command prompt open while I reference a document in the web browser? With android I'm going to be switching between fullscreen apps.
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I would say there is arguments for and against sizeable apps (I suppose that describes it), Personally I run multiple monitors and generally have Maximised Windows all the way, obviously every use case is different but I think android would become "just another window manager" and lose some of what android is If it had totally free window placement.
It is also assuming the current desktop metaphor which is in use today is the best/most productive way of interacting with the machine.... Maybe we're just blindly doing it because we've all be trained to think like that, and it's always been that way.
I don't claim to have the answers on any of these points though
I suppose the only thing I can do is stop talking and start doing, "try it yourself" as we say in the "trade" .....I've got a laptop I could give it a blast on, I can at least try a multiple monitor test with that with out too much disruption.
saqi4you said:
no one found any way to run android on PC or Laptop ???????
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dragon_76 said:
It runs in virtualisation fine and there are a few PC's that can run it natively, I would bet Jelly bean will run on x86 without fuss.
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You might want to read the full thread guys It's kinda what we're talking about, check the Androidx86 project out if you've never seen it before
Actually with apps like overskreen and the open source standout library which lets apps float, so you can have several open at once on screen together and swap between them, you could multitask with multiple open windows.
It's a new approach but already finding favour on tablets.
Dave
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deathsled said:
You can't have multiple windows open at once on the screen for serious multitasking. What if I want to have a terminal/command prompt open while I reference a document in the web browser? With android I'm going to be switching between fullscreen apps.
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If I am doing some coding on my PC (running Ubuntu) I use i3-wm which is a tiling window manager. I find the best option is to have all applications full screen and switch between them quickly using keystrokes. The same thing can be done with a theoretical Android Desktop.
I think the case for an Android Desktop is a strong one. Just looking at mobile phone shops and sites, Android is the most popular firmware for smartphones on the market so the amount of people owning one is only going to increase. With that it means that online communities like this site will get bigger with more people offering support and development. An Android desktop might not have the same look and feel as the smartphone version but if it can emulate the same functionality i.e. the way to do something on a smartphone is the same as on the desktop then the leap from smartphone to desktop won't be so hard for people. As you will have the same underlying platform, the same will apply for developers so it means application development on the Desktop version should in theory be faster.
That's a way of doing it but my preference would be a convergence of devices where say I can plug my smartphone into a docking station which hooks it up with a monitor, keyboard and mouse or like the Assus Padfone where a smartphone can be pluged into a tablet dock which turns it into a tablet.
I have a Tab S8 Ultra. I really like using DEX to emulate a computing environment. I have a small business and able to do just about everyting in need with it. However, it's not a 'true' laptop. Nevertheless, I want to cut ties with the laptop. There's one program I really need to do so. I have HGTV Home & Landscape Platimum Suite ver 3. It is, of course, windows based and my tablet is Android. Does anyone know of any available Drivers that will allow me to run it or is it even possible?
I just read an XDA contribution piece by Kyle Wiggers in January 2018 about "WINE - Compatability Layer for Windows. I'm really not sure if im on the right track here. However, this is the closest info I've found concering what I'd like to do. I'm wondering if there is any more development on this.