Gentlemen and ladies,
I am coming back to Windows (used to have an Imagio) after being on Android the last two years. So need some personal opinions and advice.
What are the must have apps for thw 8X? I will already be downloading and installing Crackle, tuneIn, Skype, Flixster, iMDB, and Adobe Reader. Anything else?
And along that vein, no way to side load apps?
Also, music. Coming from the Thunderbolt and a 32G card, dropping to 16G (actually, 11?) how does one manage all thier music? I found I have over 16G of music and would like to know best how to manage that.
And syncing to my wifes desktop. Outlook is her life, contacts and calender. i want to be sure that the connection isn't too complicated and that the phone will not change anything, in other words, the phone should only accept all calender and contact data, without modifying or altering anything.
Am excited to use this bad boy, should have it by Friday! Great way to start the new year!
Thanks for all the information everyone!
jerrya said:
Gentlemen and ladies,
I am coming back to Windows (used to have an Imagio) after being on Android the last two years. So need some personal opinions and advice.
What are the must have apps for thw 8X? I will already be downloading and installing Crackle, tuneIn, Skype, Flixster, iMDB, and Adobe Reader. Anything else?
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Metrotube definitely. The Windows phone web app store also has a list of "essential" apps.
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And along that vein, no way to side load apps?
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Developer account.
jerrya said:
Also, music. Coming from the Thunderbolt and a 32G card, dropping to 16G (actually, 11?) how does one manage all thier music? I found I have over 16G of music and would like to know best how to manage that.
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Downgrade the quality, if you are using loseless files. You can try google music also.
jerrya said:
And syncing to my wifes desktop. Outlook is her life, contacts and calender. i want to be sure that the connection isn't too complicated and that the phone will not change anything, in other words, the phone should only accept all calender and contact data, without modifying or altering anything.
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You can't plug in your phone and sync. Online sync only.
matthew5025 said:
Metrotube definitely. The Windows phone web app store also has a list of "essential" apps.
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Thanks! I will give that a go!
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Developer account.
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Whats this? Never heard of it.
matthew5025 said:
Downgrade the quality, if you are using loseless files. You can try google music also.
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I have heard of dbPowerAmp that converts from mp3 to wma, supposed to cut files in half. So will test that on a few songs, I really don't want to loose alot of quality for storage. And since I am going with a 2G plan (already miss my unlimited!), want to really reduce my data usage, so will google music download to my phone, or only play whats on the cloud?
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You can't plug in your phone and sync. Online sync only.
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Crazy! I am doing something like that now, except contacts don't sync wirelessly, in fact, they don't wired either! Have to save contact file, then upload to phone, and load into google. Hopefully my Windows phone and Windows Outlook will really enjoy working together!
Music - For $9.99 a month you can enjoy an Xbox Music Pass, allowing unlimited streaming and downloading of over 30 million songs. It's integrated directly into the Music+Video hub. You can grab whatever you like, it's pretty awesome. And if you like Pandora-like functionality, you can use the Smart DJ feature to create a playlist of music similiar to an artist or song that you like. If you have Windows 8, you can use the Music app on there to add music to your "Cloud Collection." Music in your cloud collection will appear on your phone as if you had synced it there, but will stream when you play it. You can tap+hold to download it to your phone if you like. I will note that the Music app on Windows 8 leaves a lot to be desired. Zune was way more useful and awesome, but Xbox Music will improve over time.
Side-loading - You don't do this on Windows Phone. Apps are approved by Microsoft and installed via the Store only, to ensure quality and safety. This is similiar to Apple, but Microsoft is less restrictive on what they allow (Apple tends to block things they find morally offensive or that encroach on their own products). If you are a registered Windows Phone developer, you can developer-unlock your phone and side-load apps to it, if you have the source-code for said apps. There aren't many available, and this is not the intended purpose of the dev account.
Outlook/Email - Email on WP8 is tied to online accounts (gmail, outlook, yahoo, custom). And since you sign into the phone with a Microsoft account, you already have an account on Outlook.com if you want to use it. You can set it up to check an existing email account with another service provider, or create aliases (other email addresses) that go directly to your Microsoft account email. If you want to connect the Outlook desktop program on your PC to your Outlook.com online email, you can download a program called the Microsoft Office Outlook Hotmail Connector, which does exactly what you are trying to do.
You can sync the phone with your desktop to transfer music, videos, and photos back and forth, in one of three ways: On Windows 8, use the "Windows Phone" app from the integrated Windows Store, or download the Windows Phone desktop sync program, or just drag and drop files using Windows Explorer. When you plug your phone into your PC, you will see it under My Computer. There are folders for Music, Videos, Photos, and Ringtones.
Another awesome thing is the SkyDrive integration. Go to skydrive.com on your PC using your Microsoft account (or jump to it from Outlook.com using the menu at the top left). You can store files there. 7 GB for free. Photos automatically show up in your phone's Photos hub. Documents automatically show up on your phone's Office hub. There is a SkyDrive app in the Windows Phone Store that will let you do even more with your SkyDrive.
Enjoy your phone. It's actually very awesome.
Music - For $9.99 a month you can enjoy an Xbox Music Pass, allowing unlimited streaming and downloading of over 30 million songs.
Yea, I have thought of that, but cant find a reasonable excuse to use it. I may listen to hours of music a day, but I am very specific regarding sound and styles. And I get the latest from my friends and listening to the radio from time to time. If I hear of a band from friends or on the radio, I look for more and see if I like it. If I do, I purchase the albums. Of course, my favorite band is an atuomatic purchase and doesn't count. Since 2010, I have only purchased three albums from bands I have learned about, so 10 bucks a month just isn't justified.
Side-loading - You don't do this on Windows Phone. Apps are approved by Microsoft and installed via the Store only, to ensure quality and safety. This is similiar to Apple, but Microsoft is less restrictive on what they allow (Apple tends to block things they find morally offensive or that encroach on their own products). If you are a registered Windows Phone developer, you can developer-unlock your phone and side-load apps to it, if you have the source-code for said apps. There aren't many available, and this is not the intended purpose of the dev account.
I am looking into trying to write my own apps. I have gotten a ton of information and where to look, so hope to start doing that soon. There is (I think) a simple app that is the only one I really miss, so going to see if I can make it!
Outlook/Email
I got that figured out. My wife loves how I get updates wirelessly, instead of having to sync every weeked.
You can sync the phone with your desktop to transfer music, videos, and photos back and forth.
Did the transfer method. But gonna look into that desktop sync thing, might make music transfers easier.
SkyDrive integration.
That just rocks! Its crazy that I can capture a vid or picture, and the family can watch them from my xbox almost instantly when I am still out in the field! I haven't yet fully utilized it, but getting there! Just need to figure out office and I will be a mobile fool!
Enjoy your phone. It's actually very awesome.
It is really awesome! Even my wife loves it! Maybe I can get her to come back from the dark side of apple! This phone really is above and beyond what I though it would be, The style is great and the OS just rocks! Really impressed with Windows. I think I can call myself a fanboy now!
My name is Jerry, and this is my windows phone!
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i got 3 questions about wp7:
1) is there any way to add mp3s, docs, and videos without syncing into zune?
2) is is possible to change the file system in wp7 to make it like wp 6.5 where you can add files wherever you wanted?
3) will the next wp7 update (mango) change the file system so that we can add files without zune, like in wp 6.5?
koolxx said:
i got 3 questions about wp7:
1) is there any way to add mp3s, docs, and videos without syncing into zune?
2) is is possible to change the file system in wp7 to make it like wp 6.5 where you can add files wherever you wanted?
3) will the next wp7 update (mango) change the file system so that we can add files without zune, like in wp 6.5?
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1. no
2. no
3. no
Well, the third question, it's sure yet. They said 500 feautures. We really don't know.
But take it as a 'no'.
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BTW, this was just released:
http://www.wpcentral.com/tonido-app-spotlight
Maybe this can help you.
And the answer to 1. is more "not really".
You can put documents on the phone without Zune. Email. But, no, not really.
Casey_boy said:
And the answer to 1. is more "not really".
You can put documents on the phone without Zune. Email. But, no, not really.
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in that vein, you could also add files to your skydrive and access them on the phone without a zune sync, but I don't think that is what the OP has in mind.
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in that vein, you could also add files to your skydrive and access them on the phone without a zune sync, but I don't think that is what the OP has in mind.
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I don't think you can save them on your phone that way though? Whereas you can save the documents from an email.
But, yes, I was just being a bit of an arse lol.
mikeeam said:
BTW, this was just released:
http://www.wpcentral.com/tonido-app-spotlight
Maybe this can help you.
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hi, mikeeam. does this app physically sync the phone with the pc? i hope its not one of those apps that you sync over wifi.
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i got 3 questions about wp7:
1) is there any way to add mp3s, docs, and videos without syncing into zune?
2) is is possible to change the file system in wp7 to make it like wp 6.5 where you can add files wherever you wanted?
3) will the next wp7 update (mango) change the file system so that we can add files without zune, like in wp 6.5?
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1. Yes with Mango via SkyDrive
2. Only of it's software unlocked
3. Nope
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1. Yes with Mango via SkyDrive
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This is definitely not true for Music and Videos. You may be able to play them, but they won't be added to your library (based on the currently announced features). Not sure about the skydrive support for office, haven't paid much attention.
To the OP... I been a windows mobile man since year dot and initially didn't like the idea of zune sync (al a itunes) but it does have advantages for me... Like always having a full-set backup of all my music and vids on the PC...
Now, I'm completely sold on WP7 and realise some of its quirkiness is necessary to have such a slick OS...
I sync contacts and calendar via gmail which is even easier than outlook and activesync...
For me these lacks were one of the reasons why I left WP7 as my main OS.
Especially when travelling alot to different countires. Skydrive is nice but cannot be taken as the main sync option. AFAIK you can't store media from SkyDrive, just docs.
If MS would be more sensible to collect all their services together it would be awesome, but we'll have a mess instead. To sync all the necessary files to your device you will always need Zune & Skydrive together what is quite silly.
Anyway you all talk about something what WILL happen. For another half a year you have no way to put some files on your phone other than emailing it to yourself.
No Billy Goats here Dominstry, move along
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No Billy Goats here Dominstry, move along
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Have no idea what's that.
doministry said:
For me these lacks were one of the reasons why I left WP7 as my main OS.
Especially when travelling alot to different countires. Skydrive is nice but cannot be taken as the main sync option. AFAIK you can't store media from SkyDrive, just docs.
If MS would be more sensible to collect all their services together it would be awesome, but we'll have a mess instead. To sync all the necessary files to your device you will always need Zune & Skydrive together what is quite silly.
Anyway you all talk about something what WILL happen. For another half a year you have no way to put some files on your phone other than emailing it to yourself.
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I have all my documents and pictures on SkyDrive. Sharepoint keeps my office files and DropBox most of my personal ones. Music syncs from Zune thru my laptop and I have yet to feel the need to use a file manager/USB connection.
I have adapted and love the new concept.
Long time WM user, fairly new WP7.5 user.
Love the platform and for the most part, don't miss WM at all.
Except, I used to be able to attach files to my emails like MP3 and Wav files but I have yet to see a way to do that under WP7.5.
I have searched and scrolled through this section to see if I could find something however nothing really addressed the question. Based on some of the threads I read, it looks like this cannot be done.
Can it? Does anyone know if it is coming out in a relase fix?
Thanks,
Rick
The EmailComposeTask class does not support attachments which is ridiculous and it's been a long time complaint. Microsoft doesn't seem to bothered by it and I haven't heard anything about them supporting it. I think it's part of their strategy to get devs to start using the cloud more.
Just noticed this wasn't the developer forum. My post is development related and doesn't really apply to question.
I agree about the cloud but you still need to be able to send a link in an expeditious way. Openning windowslive and finding the folder/file and then specifying share and sending an email is a PIA.
I do like the cloud for my contacts and other stuff since it is not taking space on my phone. I like it until I travel into the boonies of Texas and want to make a call but the contact list is not there cause there is not connection to 4G, 3G but to whatever was there before God created cell phones. Not looking forward to that day.
For most things it is done under the application. For example, in office word, you can hit share and choose the email account. Same within most apps. Zune though does not have this option. probably because your not supposed to pirate them to your friends.
Yet more prof that Windows Phone sucks and Windows Mobile still rules. What a damn shame. I tried to email someone and attach my resume but couldn't I had to go through the stupid office hub to do it, what a bunch of B.S. And they wonder why their sales suck ass.
ROCOAFZ said:
For most things it is done under the application. For example, in office word, you can hit share and choose the email account. Same within most apps. Zune though does not have this option. probably because your not supposed to pirate them to your friends.
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You're not trying to imply that I would send MP3's that are illegal are you?
Just kidding.
Actually they are my own files and sometimes ring tones that I created and want to share.
As for the resume email... kind of hard to attach a file to an email when it is not located on your phone. I am liking the fact that the cloud has the files and not the phone. There just needs to be a simple way to access and send it. Like Sinister1, I would prefer to have it attached to an email that I authored like we have been doing every since email allowed attachments rather than going to the file on the cloud and sharing it with an individual.
Is there any way to extract files from our phones and store them in Dropbox or Skydrive? for example pdf files or mp3.
Office files will sync on SkyDrive, or if opened on the phone (from email or web) can be saved to SkyDrive or to the phone itself. In either case, you can then send them as attachments (but only that one file at a time) in email.
Sadly, though, that's the only way I know of to send email attachments other than pictures. Microsoft really needs to either add the API for attachments, or they need to allow Outlook Mobile to open files from the public parts of your phone.
Irony-mode: Zune (the hardware, all the way fromt he HD to the original 30GB model) allowed sending files by WiFi - a feature MS has not bothered to add to WP7 even though I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult (both run on some variant of CE, both have WiFi, the HD even used a touch interface similar to the phone...). Instead, forget sending music, forget sending video, and you can barely send a Word doc!
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Office files will sync on SkyDrive, or if opened on the phone (from email or web) can be saved to SkyDrive or to the phone itself. In either case, you can then send them as attachments (but only that one file at a time) in email.
Sadly, though, that's the only way I know of to send email attachments other than pictures. Microsoft really needs to either add the API for attachments, or they need to allow Outlook Mobile to open files from the public parts of your phone.
Irony-mode: Zune (the hardware, all the way fromt he HD to the original 30GB model) allowed sending files by WiFi - a feature MS has not bothered to add to WP7 even though I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult (both run on some variant of CE, both have WiFi, the HD even used a touch interface similar to the phone...). Instead, forget sending music, forget sending video, and you can barely send a Word doc!
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Is there another way to extract pdfs, zips or mp3s of our phones even through data cable?
My PDF files are adding up. Whenever I open up Adobe reader, the files are pilling up. I know I can press and hold on any one of them and delete the file but some I want on my PC and this just is too funky.
@Rickgig, what phone do you have? Some WP7 devices are able to use apps that will access the phone and move/copy/transfer files.
Alternatively, don't you have other copies of those PDFs? I mean, they got onto the phone from somewhere, so wouldn't it be easier to get them from there? Then you could safely delete the unneeded ones off the phone.
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@Rickgig, what phone do you have? Some WP7 devices are able to use apps that will access the phone and move/copy/transfer files.
Alternatively, don't you have other copies of those PDFs? I mean, they got onto the phone from somewhere, so wouldn't it be easier to get them from there? Then you could safely delete the unneeded ones off the phone.
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I have a Titan with AT&T.
You're right... I can get them from someplace else. They are mostly menu's from restaurants but then they are business documents too. I have since learned to upload them from my PC to Skydrive and access them there.
There's a work around for everything I just wanted some of the WM features to be here. Like the file that prompted me to start this thread in the first place. My son did some work on his car and took a short video of the results and MMS'd to me. I can forward it to others but that is about it. Can't save it, can't email it to myself... if I deleted the text thread, it's gone.
As you all know, skydrive and WP7 sync pretty well together. Everyone is happy with their 25gb storage (or 7 if ur new).
But when u go to skydrive website, u can also view the computers that are currently turned on and sharing files online (its on the bottom left corner)
it comes online when u install the skydrive client on your computer.
So my question is... how come we dont have an app that can access that yet? The whole computer folder is ONLINE, you can access any files within as long as the computer is switched on, ie. acting as a server.
Imagine instead of 25gb, u have access to ur entire computer drive and u can stream music and video off that like the skyrdrive app. We wouldnt be restricted to 25gb, (im sure a lot of peoples music and video folders are in terrabytes) and we can connect where ever we go if we have 3G connection.
Maybe its because the API hasnt been released yet but .... i think this is something MS or developers should be working towards.
That's a really good idea! Until someone develops such an app, we can access skydrive website from WP and click on "PC site" and voila! You can access your PC! And the speed of the PC site is also fast
Yea but i want to stream music / video with an app it would be soooo convenient
I have a desktop that i leave it on as server anyways, so might as well.
this is the function in skydrive
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/skydrive/fetch-files-pc-ui
I am sorry, what?
I am not sure I am getting your point.
-there's a windows program that allows you to sync a local folder to skydrive - check
-there's a WP7 app that allows you to access files on your skydrive - check
-as far as I am aware, you can also stream music and movies off skydrive to your WP7 (I haven't checked or tried yet, though It works with both movies and music).
So, what is it you're looking for?
EDIT: If you're looking for a sync option from skydrive to your phone, how would that work? Your skydrive is 25Gb, WP7 phones have 16Gb max. So you can't simply sync your skydrive to your phone...
EDIT2: I think I figured out what you're looking for. You're looking for a way to access not your skydrive, but your computer from your phone. The feature you describe is a feature of the skydrive website that allows you to remotely upload files from your (running) computer. I vaguely recall seeing apps on the marketplace that would allow such a thing. I'll have to check, though...
EDIT3: A possible sollution would be to set up a TVersity Server on your PC. You can then stream music and video to appropriate clients, for WP7 there's an app called MyMedia WP7.
Note that you'll need to know how to access your TVersity Server from outside your LAN (How to make your PC connectable from the internet). Not the easiest sollution, but then again, the problem you have is very... specific, it's not a general use case.
EDIT4 (I am really good at this aren't I? ): possible alternatives would be the app called "Qloud Media" and Plex, each app requires it's own server software, though.
yep i have tried all those apps u said. I also found another one called Tonido, works ok well but im hoping for some developer to utilize the skydrives full potential (ie. the fetch file) instead of installing another desktop program to allow connection
tversity current dont offer free accounts
I have been playing around with the SkyDrive API the last few months, and I don't believe there is an official "Microsoft-blessed" way to do this via the API.
Has anybody found a way to sync either Skydrive or Dropbox documents on RT?
I know there's both Skydrive and Dropbox app for RT but they're glorified viewers at best. There is no true syncing.
And that is putting a big damper in my work flow.
Are there any other options out there? Even a different service that can sync a few documents?
Hi,
I think sugarsync lets you sync files in any platform (they say they do, but I am not a user, can't say for sure).
If you confirm that, please let us know.
Good luck.
Sugar syncs when you start the app. It checks for any changes, that way it doesn't run all the time.
This isn't the same as Syncing, but it makes everything available to you (when connected to the internet) without taking up any space (unless you copy something locally):
http://rashedtalukder.com/how-to-map-skydrive-folder-on-windows-rt-desktop-mode/
Thanks,
Talderon said:
This isn't the same as Syncing, but it makes everything available to you (when connected to the internet) without taking up any space (unless you copy something locally):
http://rashedtalukder.com/how-to-map-skydrive-folder-on-windows-rt-desktop-mode/
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Yeah, this is not much different from Skydrive app - except that it works on the Desktop app.
As for SugarSync, I don't see Windows RT app on their website. Have yet to check the Store and see if it's available.
Montastic said:
Yeah, this is not much different from Skydrive app - except that it works on the Desktop app.
As for SugarSync, I don't see Windows RT app on their website. Have yet to check the Store and see if it's available.
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Yes, it is available in the Store, that's why I sugested it.
Good luck.
Talderon said:
This isn't the same as Syncing, but it makes everything available to you (when connected to the internet) without taking up any space (unless you copy something locally):
http://rashedtalukder.com/how-to-map-skydrive-folder-on-windows-rt-desktop-mode/
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Actually, SugarSync does make a local copy. Its syncs when you start the app as opposed to continuously.
I don't think that we will see a continuous monitoring and sync that will run on a non jail broken device. RT is limited to "metro" apps to save battery life. Basically non-foreground apps are suspended with few exceptions and those exceptions are limited. (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/04/17/reclaiming-memory-from-metro-style-apps.aspx)
Allowing realtime sync would force the system to wake up and check, eating battery life, even if the notification of the change used some sort of "push" method.
That being said, I am shocked that MS didn't work on a solution to that for SkyDrive. It would have given them a definite selling point. Of course, Dropbox and all of them would go nuts.
I use Filebrick app - hands down the best available file explorer - I actually paid for it its so good. It syncs all your cloud files, Google drive, skydrive, dropbox, box, even facebook images/videos, picassa, twitter, etc.
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I use Filebrick app - hands down the best available file explorer - I actually paid for it its so good. It syncs all your cloud files, Google drive, skydrive, dropbox, box, even facebook images/videos, picassa, twitter, etc.
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When you say it syncs, do you mean it provides a local copy of the items? I'm guessing that's what you mean but just wanted to be sure.
Romp said:
Actually, SugarSync does make a local copy. Its syncs when you start the app as opposed to continuously.
I don't think that we will see a continuous monitoring and sync that will run on a non jail broken device. RT is limited to "metro" apps to save battery life. Basically non-foreground apps are suspended with few exceptions and those exceptions are limited. (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/04/17/reclaiming-memory-from-metro-style-apps.aspx)
Allowing realtime sync would force the system to wake up and check, eating battery life, even if the notification of the change used some sort of "push" method.
That being said, I am shocked that MS didn't work on a solution to that for SkyDrive. It would have given them a definite selling point. Of course, Dropbox and all of them would go nuts.
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I don't think there is a need for the app to run in background. I wouldn't mind having SkyDrive sync all my files when open the app. At any given time (especially with selective folder sync like in Desktop app), there wouldn't be a whole lot of files that needs to be synced each time you open the app.
Ideally would probably be something that can sync on a schedule (as an option), but that automatically syncs when plugged in. WP7 had this feature (one of the Multitasking APIs introduced in Mango) and it would make a slot of sense for WinRT to have as well... I haven't checked, though. In general, synching on startup would be sufficient (and should definitely be present), but sometimes that's awkward or annoying (synching lots of files and expecting them to be present without further interaction, or synching a large amount of data that will take too long to leave the app open for, or...)
Just an update:
There's an app called SkyDrive RT Sync in the store that claims to sync SkyDrive with a local folder. I'm going to give it a try and see if works as advertised.
Here's the developer page:
http://uksbsguy.com/blogs/doverton/...ydrive-sync-for-windows-8-and-windows-rt.aspx
I use this method http://social.technet.microsoft.com...backup-of-windows-rt-local-storage-en-us.aspx
I would take a minute to read up on what the commands do , so you know what you're getting. If you're on the same network as a desktop/laptop w/ a dropbox folder, you can sync over the network.
Also worth reading: http://bgtechrants.blogspot.com/2012/11/windows-rt-and-offline-files.html?m=1
And http://www.vistaheads.com/forums/mi...a-general/123700-robocopy-net-drive-path.html
If you have a password on your laptop/desktop
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Hello,
I have been using an iPhone 5 for the last year. I have enjoyed the phone but now I think I am ready to return to a Nexus.
I say return because before the iPhone I had a Galaxy Nexus.
I was set on swapping my iPhone 5 for a 5s, but the sensors issue has placed my purchase of the iPhone on hold and during this time I have became increasingly excited with the Nexus 5.
Since I have been using the iPhone for so long, I have a ton of stuff that I need to move to the Nexus 5, and this is why I am writing this post.
Since you all here know much more about android than I do, I am hoping for some guidance on my doubts about migrating from the iPhone to the Nexus.
Here is what I need. Can you please tell me if it is possible and how to do it?
Photos and videos - I have more than 2000 pictures on the iPhone camera roll and 30 videos I took over this past year.
They are stored in the camera roll. No albums and no folders. They are sorted by date taken and are all geo-tagged.
I would need the same on the nexus. All this directly in the camera roll and the geo-tagged preserved. New pictures taken with the nexus would add to these ones. Say if my last image is IMG_2000.jpg, the first taken with the Nexus should be IMG_2001.jpg
Call Log - For work related reasons, I would need to preserve my call log on the nexus and have the calls on the nexus add to the existing log.
SMS Messages - The same. I would need to import all my threaded messages from the iPhone to the Nexus and have them associated with the same contacts so that they would proceed from there.
Contacts and calendar - I Have it on iCloud. I guess I would have to export from iCloud to Google and then sync Google with the Nexus.
Mail - I have a gmail account. No problems there. I also have an iCloud account. They are both synced to the IOS mail app at the same time.
Can I sync both accounts to the NExus gmail app?
Whatsapp - I need to have the chats from whatsapp. Maybe export them from IOS and Import them to Android?
Real Racing 3 - I have quite a good career on RR3. Can I back it up and restore it to Android?
Angry Birds Star wars - Same. Have completed all levels and am 3 starring them. WOuld like to continue on the nexus and not have to start over.
That is it basically. If I was to get an iPhone 5s, I would use iTunes to backup my 5, and then restore to the 5s and would have all I stated above on the new phone.
Can I do it from the iPhone to Nexus?
I would really like to try a Nexus, but I am so deep with the iPhone after a year that if I can't move some stuff, it will be a deal breaker unfortunately.
Hope you can help me out.
Thank you.
Regards!
What a stupid pretension.............save your contacts and your photos and music on your pc and forget all.
Apple, what are you doing with your users brain?
Here's a basic guide. Might not have all you want to do, but it looks like it covers the core stuff.
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What a stupid pretension.............save your contacts and your photos and music on your pc and forget all.
Apple, what are you doing with your users brain?
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Why is it a stupid pretension to want to preserve my data and digital history?
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Here's a basic guide. Might not have all you want to do, but it looks like it covers the core stuff.
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Thank you.
I will look into it.
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Why is it a stupid pretension to want to preserve my data and digital history?
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The best of your post is:
Angry Birds Star wars - Same. Have completed all levels and am 3 starring them. WOuld like to continue on the nexus and not have to start over.
Note: Don´t lose your time in this things, better to start over.
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The best of your post is:
Angry Birds Star wars - Same. Have completed all levels and am 3 starring them. WOuld like to continue on the nexus and not have to start over.
Note: Don´t lose your time in this things, better to start over.
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Hi.
I agree. The games are the least important if course. They are time wasters that is true, but the rest like the logs and SMS messages are really inportant to me.
Cheers!
I'm not sure if this would do you any good, but I moved from iPhone to my One this year and wanted to preserve many of the things you were concerned about as well. The nice part was that HTC sync manager software is able to read iPhone backup files (make sure they're not encrypted) and restored all of my texts, call history, contacts, and pictures rather painlessly. Well the texts took a couple attempts to get through all 75000 of them but it did eventually
There's really no hope of 99% of apps transferring data over though because they're fundamentally different on Android and ios. Even games that use cloud saves can't do this (angry birds, csr racing, etc). Also your saves are linked to an ios or Google account which are obviously not connected.
Now of course the catch to all this is I have no idea if this software would work with a non-htc phone, but just the fact that they can read ios saves means that it is possible to do, whether by sync manager or another program. Sorry I couldn't help more, just thought I'd put this out there.
Good luck!
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Say if my last image is IMG_2000.jpg, the first taken with the Nexus should be IMG_2001.jpg
Contacts and calendar - I Have it on iCloud. I guess I would have to export from iCloud to Google and then sync Google with the Nexus.
Mail - I have a gmail account. No problems there. I also have an iCloud account. They are both synced to the IOS mail app at the same time.
Can I sync both accounts to the NExus gmail app?
Real Racing 3 - I have quite a good career on RR3. Can I back it up and restore it to Android?
Angry Birds Star wars - Same. Have completed all levels and am 3 starring them. WOuld like to continue on the nexus and not have to start over.
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On Android, the photos taken uses the date and time as the file name, the Gallery app can group images base on the time line or you can use some PC photo application to sort it the way you want. Geotag information are embedded in the JPEG so as long as you don't alter it, it's still there, just copy it over to the Nexus.
iPhone should have some way to sync your contact or export them to Google, then you just log into Google on your Android device and it'll auto sync your contacts. I don't think there is such thing as iCloud syncing on Android, that is an Apple exclusive service.
As for games, Google is working on introducing Google Play Games services on iOS, this is a cloud service to sync savegames and etc in between devices, Apple only have to be willing to work with Google to introduce this to iOS, however, I think Apple have their own competing similar service. There is a Google developer page on this so I think it will come to iOS someday.
My recommendation is stay with Apple if you required complete interoperability by Google, Apple make it difficult to transfer data from and to other platforms for a reason.
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I'm not sure if this would do you any good, but I moved from iPhone to my One this year and wanted to preserve many of the things you were concerned about as well. The nice part was that HTC sync manager software is able to read iPhone backup files (make sure they're not encrypted) and restored all of my texts, call history, contacts, and pictures rather painlessly. Well the texts took a couple attempts to get through all 75000 of them but it did eventually
There's really no hope of 99% of apps transferring data over though because they're fundamentally different on Android and ios. Even games that use cloud saves can't do this (angry birds, csr racing, etc). Also your saves are linked to an ios or Google account which are obviously not connected.
Now of course the catch to all this is I have no idea if this software would work with a non-htc phone, but just the fact that they can read ios saves means that it is possible to do, whether by sync manager or another program. Sorry I couldn't help more, just thought I'd put this out there.
Good luck!
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Hello,
Thank you for taking the time to write this up.
The call history and texts are a plus!
Also, when you used that software to transfer the images, did they go straight to the camera roll and were sorted by date taken?
Cheers!
I would like to apologize for the rude and pretentious android users, you had genuine questions and they jumped on you unfairly, I'll try to answer your questions to the best of my abilities (for the record I have had a many nexus devices and also an iPhone 5S/5).
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Photos and videos - I have more than 2000 pictures on the iPhone camera roll and 30 videos I took over this past year.
They are stored in the camera roll. No albums and no folders. They are sorted by date taken and are all geo-tagged.
I would need the same on the nexus. All this directly in the camera roll and the geo-tagged preserved. New pictures taken with the nexus would add to these ones. Say if my last image is IMG_2000.jpg, the first taken with the Nexus should be IMG_2001.jpg
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These pictures should be easily converted over, just see if you can dump them on one of your laptops and store them in the pictures folder of your nexus once you have it connected to your computer, make sure none of your pictures are overwritten when you take new ones and you should be okay.
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Call Log - For work related reasons, I would need to preserve my call log on the nexus and have the calls on the nexus add to the existing log.
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I wish there was something I could help you with on this, unfortunately I don't believe there is a backup and restore option for the call logs on iPhone, I know you can simply do this with a backup and restore with Titanium Backup on Android.
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SMS Messages - The same. I would need to import all my threaded messages from the iPhone to the Nexus and have them associated with the same contacts so that they would proceed from there.
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Again, no such app exists on the official iOS market place for backups and restores, you would need to think about jailbreaking your phone in order to see if you could back these up.
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Contacts and calendar - I Have it on iCloud. I guess I would have to export from iCloud to Google and then sync Google with the Nexus.
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Spend a day on google and import your contacts and calender to the google contacts and calender, this will make sure you can access everything from just about everywhere, its easy to set up and it will transfer from phone to phone.
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Mail - I have a gmail account. No problems there. I also have an iCloud account. They are both synced to the IOS mail app at the same time.
Can I sync both accounts to the NExus gmail app?
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Cant sync the iCloud account, not really sure what that means though, since you have Gmail you have all your email at your fingertips on the Nexus anyways.
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Whatsapp - I need to have the chats from whatsapp. Maybe export them from IOS and Import them to Android?
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Again this may require a jailbreak in order to get the information you need, unless it officially supports it in the app itself.
gdourado said:
Real Racing 3 - I have quite a good career on RR3. Can I back it up and restore it to Android?
Angry Birds Star wars - Same. Have completed all levels and am 3 starring them. WOuld like to continue on the nexus and not have to start over.
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Unfortunately you are going to lose your stats on games, unless you jailbreak and see that the save file is exactly the same as the android version of the save file.
I hope I was able to help a little bit, I would suggest jailbreaking your iPhone and seeing if you can get a usable backup from the device and go from there, I think you will enjoy the Nexus even though the OS has it's own limitations, you wont have to worry about jailbreaking your device on Android and you will get extra functionality that you will definitely miss on your iPhone. Spend the time to learn the ins and outs on your limitations and you should be set!
I'm on the same position . Thinking to sell iPhone 5 and get Nexus 5, and I don't give a .... about SMS or call logs, games history etc.
Hi,
Thank you all for taking the time to post your thoughts and comments.
Based on what you said, I did some research online and came to the following conclusions:
- It seems that there are software apps than can read into a full iTunes iPhone backup and extract some information.
With that kind of software, I can access the SMS messages and call logs and then transfer them to Android.
So, SMS and Call Log seems to be a non issue.
- Photos are also a non issue. With something like iFunbox I can extract all the original jPegs from the iPhone and then just copy them to the images folder on Android. Geo Tag is embedded on the file and so is date taken, so sorting them won't be an issue The same happens with the video files.
- Whatsapp chats can also be extracted from the iTunes backup. Then, they can be copied to android and once I install Whatsapp on Android, it seems I can restore from that backup file.
- Real Racing 3 on IOS has cloud save and restore feature. I will have to look into if they can be saved on IOS and restored on Android. That would be sweet.
- Contacts and Calendar. On the Mac, I can export this info in CSV and then import it to google. I will then have my contacts on Google contacts and my calendar on google Calendar. Then, Google Calendar and contacts can be synced to the Mac and iPad with no issues.
- The other games seem like they will be lost. But if it is just my progress on Angry Birds and cut the rope, no big deal... Although I might try to extract the App data from the iTunes backup and see if anything can be done with it.
So far it is looking good. Has anyone already tried any of these methods with success?
Cheers!
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Hi,
Thank you all for taking the time to post your thoughts and comments.
Based on what you said, I did some research online and came to the following conclusions:
- It seems that there are software apps than can read into a full iTunes iPhone backup and extract some information.
With that kind of software, I can access the SMS messages and call logs and then transfer them to Android.
So, SMS and Call Log seems to be a non issue.
- Photos are also a non issue. With something like iFunbox I can extract all the original jPegs from the iPhone and then just copy them to the images folder on Android. Geo Tag is embedded on the file and so is date taken, so sorting them won't be an issue The same happens with the video files.
- Whatsapp chats can also be extracted from the iTunes backup. Then, they can be copied to android and once I install Whatsapp on Android, it seems I can restore from that backup file.
- Real Racing 3 on IOS has cloud save and restore feature. I will have to look into if they can be saved on IOS and restored on Android. That would be sweet.
- Contacts and Calendar. On the Mac, I can export this info in CSV and then import it to google. I will then have my contacts on Google contacts and my calendar on google Calendar. Then, Google Calendar and contacts can be synced to the Mac and iPad with no issues.
- The other games seem like they will be lost. But if it is just my progress on Angry Birds and cut the rope, no big deal... Although I might try to extract the App data from the iTunes backup and see if anything can be done with it.
So far it is looking good. Has anyone already tried any of these methods with success?
Cheers!
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I just tried to find any kind of sign in to download my real racing 3 progress from my ios devices but I couldn't find anything. So it seemed the same as the rest. However, I found this https://c.getsatisfaction.com/firem...does_not_exist_in_real_racing_3_settings_menu Which clearly states you can use a Facebook account or Google+ account to access your saves cross platform
I also found this tutorial on how to restore texts to android http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-transfer-iphone-sms-text-messages-to-android-tutorial/ I use SMS backup actually and it's a helpful app anyway so win-win. There's also a program called MobileTrans that seems to do the same thing as Sync Manager that I was talking about previously http://www.iphone-to-pc.com/how-to-transfer-copy-data-from-iphone-to-android.html. There's a free trial so you could try it out. Personally I have no idea if it works or not but you could look into I guess. I'd be interested to know!
Oh and I forgot to get back to you about the pictures; it didn't put them into the camera roll, it out them in the gallery as a separate album. I was happy with that but you can easily move them into the camera album after.
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not to sound rude or anything, but you should have just stuck with android. ive got friends who went from android to iOS and now theyre coming back to android. Once you go android, you never go back
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not to sound rude or anything, but you should have just stuck with android. ive got friends who went from android to iOS and now theyre coming back to android. Once you go android, you never go back
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Whether he wants to use iOS or not is irrelevant. He asked questions to try and take his data from his iPhone and put it on the Nexus 5. He didn't ask for your opinion about him using iOS. There is nothing wrong with wanting to try something different. I got bored of iOS and switched to android. Best decision ever. One day I'll get bored of android and might switch to something else. There's nothing wrong with that, its human nature. I know quite a few people who went android and back to iOS. People have preferences and different needs. There IS a reason why there is a massive number of apple followers. They must be doing something right.
So not to be totally off topic...
As for the OP, the save files for iOS games and Android games are different. So taking the data from your iPhone to Android isn't possible. Cloud save would need to be required in order to do so, and would need to support cross platform syncing. I'm unsure if any game features that
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An easy way to transfer data from iPhone to Android without root is by using a program called Backuptrans. It can help you switch data including Music, Video, Photo, Playlist, Message (SMS & MMS), Contact, Calendar, Call history, Bookmark etc from iPhone to your Nexus 5. All these data will be merged on Android so you won't lose any data. Hope it helps.
Didn't read through all of the thread, but i switched from the iPhone 5 to the Nexus 5 as well.. a few things:
- SMS: Used iSMS2droid. Extracts SMS from iPhone backup. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.faked.isms2droid&hl=de
- Contacts: Simple. Synced Contacts between iPhone and Mac via iCloud, extracted contacts on mac as vcard or similar, imported to GMail/Google Account i use with the Nexus 5. Somebody else mentioned this before.
- Pictures: No idea, I don't keep too much pictures on my Phone, i like it clean. Import photos via iPhoto / Aperture on Mac or similar Photo database software and transfer it via USB. Or did I miss something here?
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Say if my last image is IMG_2000.jpg, the first taken with the Nexus should be IMG_2001.jpg
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and.. dude. For I am currently writing my master's thesis in clinical psychology / psychotherapy: This seems pretty much to be a latent obsessive-compulsive disorder
Again, no such app exists on the official iOS market place for backups and restores, you would need to think about jailbreaking your phone in order to see if you could back these up.
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As i said. iSMS2droid in combination with SMS Backup and Restore works like a charm.
Myself, i am in the same situation. Currently had an iPhone 4 for 3 years and now moving to Nexus 5. I have spent hours searching for ways of transferring the information across and this thread has been useful. It would be helpful to get some feedback from the OP if he has had success and which methods helped achieve this.
I found this link with regards to transferring whatapp messages :http://hkexperts.net/barry/migrate-whatsapp-history-from-iphone-to-android/ .
On a side note, this garbage about iPhone vs android is completely unhelpful in this thread as it is now just clogged!!
fantastic guide!!! shows how simple it really is to make the long overdue switch
https://plus.google.com/+EricSchmidt/posts/JcfVoJhW2Kw
Eric Schmidt said:
Eric’s Guide: Converting to Android from iPhone
Many of my iPhone friends are converting to Android. The latest high-end phones from Samsung (Galaxy S4), Motorola (Verizon Droid Ultra) and the Nexus 5 (for AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile) have better screens, are faster, and have a much more intuitive interface. They are a great Christmas present to an iPhone user!
Here are the steps I recommend to make this switch. Like the people who moved from PCs to Macs and never switched back, you will switch from iPhone to Android and never switch back as everything will be in the cloud, backed up, and there are so many choices for you. 80% of the world, in the latest surveys, agrees on Android.
1. Set up the Android phone
a) Power on, connect to WiFi, login with your personal Gmail account, and download in the Google Play Store all the applications you normally use (for example, Instagram).
b) Make sure the software on the Android phone is updated to the latest version (i.e. 4.3 or 4.4). You should get a notification if there are software updates.
c) If you are using AT&T, download the Visual Voicemail app from the Play Store.
d) You can add additional Gmail accounts now or later.
At this point, you should see all your Gmail, and be able to use any apps and they should work well. Be sure to verify this.
2. Update your iPhone or iPad
a) Power on, connect to WiFi, make sure your Gmail is logged in, and upgrade all of the iPhone software to the latest iPhone software release (typically iOS 7+).
b) Check that you are using iCloud to back up contacts. Go to iCloud (in Settings) and enable that for contacts (“on”). If not using iCloud, go ahead and sign up for it. (The latest Mavericks requires the use of iCloud for Mac users if you want to transfer contacts.)
c) For your personal Gmail account, in Settings/Mail, turn on sync for contacts. In the latest iOS, this should sync your Gmail contacts and iPhone contacts.
d) In Settings/Messages, turn “off” iMessage, as that messenger is an iPhone-to-iPhone messenger and if its on your iPhone friends texts won’t make it to Android. Your iPhone will still use SMS messaging to reach your friends if you use the iPhone after this change.
e) Make sure your iPhone is fully synced to the Mac iTunes. Your photos and music should all be backed up on your Mac when this is done. Go ahead and verify that on the Mac and the iPhone.
At this point you should see all your Gmail, have your apps, and have your contacts in the Android phone. If the contacts are not in the Android phone, manually download the contacts as follows on your Mac:
a) Go to apple.com/icloud, login with your Apple ID, and click on contacts
b) In the lower-left corner, click on the wheel, and “select all” the contacts and “export” the vCard into a vCard file (in Downloads).
c) In a browser, go to gmail.com, click on the Mail button and select “Contacts”. You should see a list of your Gmail contacts. Import the vCard file into Gmail/contacts using the “Import contacts” command and it should have manually added your contacts. Delete any duplicates or use the “More / Find & merge duplicates” function.
At this point you have your Gmail, apps and contacts on the new phone. Also verify this.
3. On your Mac, connect your music to Google:
Download Google Music Manager onto the Mac, and run it. Music Manager will upload your iTunes music to the cloud. The standard version is free and handles most iTunes libraries. You will need to sign up for Google Wallet and give your credit card information, but it’s free. Be sure the music is going to your personal Gmail account above. See https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1075570
With the above complete, you should have your Gmail, apps, contacts, and music all moved over. Verify this on the Android phone
4. Take the SIM out of the iPhone and insert it into Android. You may need an adapter (from nano-SIM to micro-SIM), but then reboot the Android and you are all set ! For texting either use the Messenger app in earlier releases or the “Hangouts” app in Android 4.4.
Comments and additions welcome ! Eric
PS. Photos on your iPhone
If you have pictures on your iPhone, you will have to first copy them over to the Mac and then sync the iPhone with iTunes. See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4083
It’s probably easiest to backup your iPhone photos to the Mac, but not copy the old photos to the Android phone. New photos you take on the Android phone will automatically be backed up to your photos in the Gmail account (iAuto-Upload is normally enabled) so no action is required. If the old photos are important, send them to Gmail and download into the Android phone or upload them to Google+.
PPS. Some general advice
Be sure to use Chrome, not Safari; its safer and better in so many ways. And it’s free.
https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
Be sure to use two-factor authentication for your Gmail and Google accounts. Makes it very hard for someone to break into your Gmail. Also free.
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/180744?hl=en
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