Hey guys,
I am a bit intrigued at the new Google TV 2.0 Honeycomb release soon. I don't have Google TV but was looking into it recently with these announcements. My main question is, would adding a Logitech Revue for $100 be worth it? And furthermore, would having the TF add in the experience or could I just do everything I can now with the TF and not Google TV? Hopefully this makes sense!
I don't watch a lot of youtube
I technically have a Netflix acct.
I would like to cut the chord to cable, but I need my espn and Phillies on comcast!!! (I have Fios)
Hopefully this makes sense. I was thinking the TF could maybe control Google TV down the road with some app development, or possible wireless connectivity with the Logitech so I could run some things through the TF and into the TV without hooking the HDMI cable up and having the tablet sitting under my TV and not on my lap?
Thanks for the suggestions and any tips or hints!
there are controllers in the marketplace, IIRC they work over wifi but could be wrong.
I'm also interested in a revue WHEN they actually get the update. It's hard for me to cut the cable cord, but very close to it when they charge close to $70/mo for basic cable, and have forced me to use digital boxes on every tv set. (they used to broadcast "analog" HD on say the x.1 channels, but even that's gone).
AFAIK Google TV is just a special HDTV that has Android and Internet oriented video stuff for it, like YouTube. It's been recently announced to be getting accesss to the Android Market soon if memory serves.
Personally, if you already have a TF and an HDTV I would just use an HDMI/MiniHDMI cable. At least here, the only value I can see would be if I wanted an HDTV; XFinity and a 22" monitor does fine.
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First off, Google TV is a very different experience from Android on a tablet. It's a non-touch, large screen, 10-foot interface. The same experience cannot be seen by just plugging your Transformer into the HDMI jack.
From a chord cutting standpoint, it may serve that purpose for you depending on how you want to use it, but it's primary design is to sit between your TV and cable box (at least for the Revue, and the Sony devices are similar). This adds a good amount of searchability to your channels, as well as being able to aggregate and sort currently playing movies. The Netflix and YouTube apps are also an obvious boon for this platform. Pandora likewise, but to a lesser degree.
What is really interesting is the communication you can have between your phone or tablet and the GTV device. The full remote is available as an app, and it works great (plus it's open source). In the future I could see this as a potential gaming platform (imagine playing Texas Hold'em where the table is on your TV and your hand is on your phone), but until there is major developer support expect it to primarily be good for media consumption and light internet browsing. It remains to be seen how much devs pick up the platform, but as a current user and dev I hope it goes a long way.
I haven't had cable for over three years, even so I bit the bullet when the Logitech Revue was $300 (I should have waited a little longer) to check it out. I love my Revue now and can't wait until the update.
As it is now, there isn't much integration with the Transformer (or any tablet) with GTV. But since it will be running Android 3.0 and have the Market, more and more will be developed for it. Like another poster mentioned, there is a wifi GTV controller on the Market now.
Thanks for all of the comments.
I certainly understand what GTV does I was just curious as to your experiences and if at all you have integrated your TF into the mix. Hopefully in a little while the devs will get into this platform and really make it shine.
The remote apps look cool too. Seems like they have some extra additions over the keyboard of the revue?
What would really be nice is to wirelessly stream videos/photos to your tv from the TF and or phone.
npompei said:
Thanks for all of the comments.
I certainly understand what GTV does I was just curious as to your experiences and if at all you have integrated your TF into the mix. Hopefully in a little while the devs will get into this platform and really make it shine.
The remote apps look cool too. Seems like they have some extra additions over the keyboard of the revue?
What would really be nice is to wirelessly stream videos/photos to your tv from the TF and or phone.
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I'm sure that wouldn't be hard to get done, if it isn't already (or at least being worked on). Since it is running honeycomb and you can get GTV for $100 now, I think after the update hits we'll see a lot of developers working on GTV stuff.
Logitech Revue GTV was my very first Android device (in a household of 10 android devices). I love it. I don't know if the reviewers actually spent enough time using it in their own living room. I bought it used and the original owner already updated it, so the root backdoor was close. It would be much better with the update. I chose it over Roku and the other devices. Though once in a while I do comparisons of features, I'm still happy with my decision. The family can use it easily too.
My DVD and TV have Netflix too, but the GTV Netflix app is tons better. My worst gripe with GTV is the TV schedule/playing-now interface, which could be done differently for better usability.
There is a few controller apps on the market. I don't really use them because the BT keyboard and my Harmony remote work fine for that purpose.
There is logitech harmony remote on the market that integrates into the revue nicely. I have it on my phone and tf.
It also acts as a remote for my cable and stereo. And it is free.
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if google could sign a contract with someone and get ESPN, local channels, FX, TBS and the more common channels to stream live, i would sign up with google TV in a heartbeat and dump fios.
tekkitan said:
I'm sure that wouldn't be hard to get done, if it isn't already (or at least being worked on). Since it is running honeycomb and you can get GTV for $100 now, I think after the update hits we'll see a lot of developers working on GTV stuff.
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As far as AirPlay like functionality, it's harder than you'd think. There is a protocol for direct IP to IP communication between the devices, but as far as streaming media from one device to the other it's a bit tricky. DLNA is currently the best choice, but it's a bit tricky to set up. What would be nice is if you could use an Intent to share to the Remote app from Gallery or someplace, and then have the Remote app set up the DLNA connection for you, but it would be fairly involved on both ends.
jblah said:
if google could sign a contract with someone and get ESPN, local channels, FX, TBS and the more common channels to stream live, i would sign up with google TV in a heartbeat and dump fios.
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GTV isn't a replacement for cable/satellite, so your post is really meaningless. GTV isn't subscription based, it is a one time fee to buy the hardware.
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As far as AirPlay like functionality, it's harder than you'd think. There is a protocol for direct IP to IP communication between the devices, but as far as streaming media from one device to the other it's a bit tricky. DLNA is currently the best choice, but it's a bit tricky to set up. What would be nice is if you could use an Intent to share to the Remote app from Gallery or someplace, and then have the Remote app set up the DLNA connection for you, but it would be fairly involved on both ends.
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I don't think it'd be as difficult as you're making it out to be. Obviously difficult enough that I couldn't develop such a thing, but there are people with experience in this type of stuff that would be able to figure it out
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GTV isn't a replacement for cable/satellite, so your post is really meaningless. GTV isn't subscription based, it is a one time fee to buy the hardware.
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i know what GTV is. Hence why I was saying that IF were able to sign some contracts with ESPN and others to do a live stream of the channels, i would dump cable and pay to go to GTV. It would be a way google could make $ and provide an awesome service to standard cable which now is dominated by comcast and fios.
jblah said:
if google could sign a contract with someone and get ESPN, local channels, FX, TBS and the more common channels to stream live, i would sign up with google TV in a heartbeat and dump fios.
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Google has its own channels/programs being cooked up for YouTube.
jblah said:
i know what GTV is. Hence why I was saying that IF were able to sign some contracts with ESPN and others to do a live stream of the channels, i would dump cable and pay to go to GTV. It would be a way google could make $ and provide an awesome service to standard cable which now is dominated by comcast and fios.
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but that makes no sense. those networks would charge money, so google would have to charge us monthly. it's two completely different products which is why your post makes zero sense.
also you left out a few cable companies. Time Warner (really big one), Cox (not as big but still serves many markets), AT&T U-Verse
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but that makes no sense. those networks would charge money, so google would have to charge us monthly. it's two completely different products which is why your post makes zero sense.
also you left out a few cable companies. Time Warner (really big one), Cox (not as big but still serves many markets), AT&T U-Verse
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It makes perfect sense... add premium content. Give me what I want, and make it cheaper than the cable company, and I'm IN.
$70/mo for basic cable here. I'm about to cut the cord regardless.
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First off, Google TV is a very different experience from Android on a tablet. It's a non-touch, large screen, 10-foot interface. The same experience cannot be seen by just plugging your Transformer into the HDMI jack.
From a chord cutting standpoint, it may serve that purpose for you depending on how you want to use it, but it's primary design is to sit between your TV and cable box (at least for the Revue, and the Sony devices are similar). This adds a good amount of searchability to your channels, as well as being able to aggregate and sort currently playing movies. The Netflix and YouTube apps are also an obvious boon for this platform. Pandora likewise, but to a lesser degree.
What is really interesting is the communication you can have between your phone or tablet and the GTV device. The full remote is available as an app, and it works great (plus it's open source). In the future I could see this as a potential gaming platform (imagine playing Texas Hold'em where the table is on your TV and your hand is on your phone), but until there is major developer support expect it to primarily be good for media consumption and light internet browsing. It remains to be seen how much devs pick up the platform, but as a current user and dev I hope it goes a long way.
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I have a modified version of the app that i posted for free over at gtvhacker if interested. works fine on tf portrait and landscape.
http://forum.gtvhacker.com/apps-and-suggestions/topic146.html
syntrix said:
It makes perfect sense... add premium content. Give me what I want, and make it cheaper than the cable company, and I'm IN.
$70/mo for basic cable here. I'm about to cut the cord regardless.
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But that isn't the purpose of Google TV. So no, it makes ZERO sense. Again, stop trying to turn Google TV into something it probably never will be. Cut the cord to cable, you don't need it. Just about everything you watch on TV is available on the internet. I haven't had cable for over three years.
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But that isn't the purpose of Google TV. So no, it makes ZERO sense. Again, stop trying to turn Google TV into something it probably never will be. Cut the cord to cable, you don't need it. Just about everything you watch on TV is available on the internet. I haven't had cable for over three years.
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Legally? in HD? me thinks you exagerate ;-)
A lot of crap that people watch is. If you're more interested in movies that are not so recent, it is more challenging. If you have e.g. XFinity or are willing to pay a bit, plenty of stuff can be had.
The only reason I would have to pay the cable company, they give like 3 or 6 times the speed I could get using my phone as a modem.
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Hi! my first post so be gentle
I've been thinking of getting a Chromecast Since day one, but certain things have made me so confused so the last months i have been thinking ''Yes Or No''.
So my thoughts have been if i should buy this or a Nexus 7.
As i've been reading lately you can get american Netflix using tunnelbear which sounds really nice! (I'm From Sweden to be exact.)
But how is it doing with the Local Streaming function its still ''banned'' so to say?
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How is the streaming quality from Chromecast(Netflix) to the TV?
How is the streaming Quality from Chromecast(Youtube) to the Tv?
Do you think it will be almost the same apps like in Apple tv?
Is there any kind of Browser? such as regular Chrome so i can Read news for example on the tv without mirroring my Chrome tab?
As This is just a beta device, you think they will release a Chromecast 2 any soon or they will just stick to the regular one.
What are the benefits rooting these devices? i got a nexus 4, i have never rooted any android device even if i had about 7 android phones last 3 years. Been scared of the note saying this will void your warranty.
Yes Alot of questions but im really thankfull for all the help!
Best Regards eastlin.
If you really want to "wirelessly cast" your audio viduals, then get the Chromecast, but if you don't mind physically connecting your phone/tablet to your TV, you really only need a SlimPort Micro USB to HDMI Adapter. These cost around the US$20 range and let you connect a HDMI cable to your phone/tablet's micro USB port (you can also invest in the N7 with the savings ).
Hope this helps.
haha, im sitting here dividing... Tablet or CC Done it for about 3 months now cant still decide it sucks.
but CC is allways a nice Gadget, but i want to be able to use it for more than just the few apps there are atm...
Will there be more apps in the future or will they kill the product?
Eastliin said:
Will there be more apps in the future or will they kill the product?
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You can never be sure...
Ye i will look that Cable adapter up, sounds like something interesting to me atleast
But as you know, Wireless rules.
About 6 months ago I start shopping and researching with the intent of picking up an android TV box. Since then, and about 1500 reviews, suggestions, reports, etc I'm kinda stuck on what I really want/need.
Right now I've got a plethora of 500GB - 1TB 2.5/3.5/USB drives I've got docked or plug in to my laptop to stream movies, etc to my TV.
I was going to go with one of the cheaper S905 boxes and set up Kodi, but after seeing some of the newer NUC's or NAS options I'm not really sure what direction to go.
I am primarily looking to stream/play 1080p and 4k movies to my tv. I've got a newer Sharp 4k Smart TV so I've got Netflix/Amazon streaming already, so those aren't necessary for the box. I also just want to be able to have an easy (and FAST) way to utilize these hard drives without having to plug them in to my laptop.
I also wouldn't mind the options of using Kodi to stream alternate sources for shows/movies, but I am not focusing on that.
Would you guys recommend one of the newer Android boxes, throwing together a NUC or just utilize a NAS storage?
Price point is about $150-200. I've got the HDD/SSD's for a NUC, and ram is cheap enough so I don't have any problem with that. Just need something with AC wireless capability and USB 3.0 inputs (possibly Bluetooth if I decide to get a remote/keyboard).
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About 6 months ago I start shopping and researching with the intent of picking up an android TV box. Since then, and about 1500 reviews, suggestions, reports, etc I'm kinda stuck on what I really want/need.
Right now I've got a plethora of 500GB - 1TB 2.5/3.5/USB drives I've got docked or plug in to my laptop to stream movies, etc to my TV.
I was going to go with one of the cheaper S905 boxes and set up Kodi, but after seeing some of the newer NUC's or NAS options I'm not really sure what direction to go.
I am primarily looking to stream/play 1080p and 4k movies to my tv. I've got a newer Sharp 4k Smart TV so I've got Netflix/Amazon streaming already, so those aren't necessary for the box. I also just want to be able to have an easy (and FAST) way to utilize these hard drives without having to plug them in to my laptop.
I also wouldn't mind the options of using Kodi to stream alternate sources for shows/movies, but I am not focusing on that.
Would you guys recommend one of the newer Android boxes, throwing together a NUC or just utilize a NAS storage?
Price point is about $150-200. I've got the HDD/SSD's for a NUC, and ram is cheap enough so I don't have any problem with that. Just need something with AC wireless capability and USB 3.0 inputs (possibly Bluetooth if I decide to get a remote/keyboard).
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We have a dedicated thread for this here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179
Please ask there, thanks for understanding
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I was just thinking that when I finally trade up my Pixel 3, my trade in won't be worth enough to let go of a good phone. Would it be possible to flash a custom GoogleTV rom onto an old phone that out-specs the CCwGTV, and use a powered ucbc-hdmi adapter or usbc hub? Faster processor, more ram, far more storage. I imagine you could even use a harmony hub or ccwgtv remote.
I searched but couldn't find anything on this. Am I missing something?
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I was just thinking that when I finally trade up my Pixel 3, my trade in won't be worth enough to let go of a good phone. Would it be possible to flash a custom GoogleTV rom onto an old phone that out-specs the CCwGTV, and use a powered ucbc-hdmi adapter or usbc hub? Faster processor, more ram, far more storage. I imagine you could even use a harmony hub or ccwgtv remote.
I searched but couldn't find anything on this. Am I missing something?
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Yes you’re missing a whole lot… the biggest is the ROM, you can’t just install any GTV ROM, it has to be made specifically for your device, I haven’t seen anyone make any GTV ROMs for any phones let alone for a Pixel 3..
The reason for the is prolly cuz they don’t connect to TV’s quite as easily as you described.. Theres no hardware inside of them that enables video out, you’ll need an external video card or “Display Link” adapter that transcodes video from the phone onto a display like a TV. This adapter nearly costs as much as a Chromecast, yet you’re limited to just 1080p..
Guess there ain’t anyone foolish enough to waste their time building a ROM to be limited to those
restrictions..
Good idea though