[Q] App and privacy issue - General Questions and Answers

I'd like to pone a privacy problem.
In Android ,installed apps require permissions to operate. Permissions to access the Phone Id (also the IMEI) or the position of the device or the access to your calls seem very common in most apps on the market.
Permission for the position seems ok for a Gps navigation program but also for an alarm clock? Where do they sent my data and what use they do?
I use LBE privacy guard but it is enough?
what do you think?

Toriko said:
I'd like to pone a privacy problem.
In Android ,installed apps require permissions to operate. Permissions to access the Phone Id (also the IMEI) or the position of the device or the access to your calls seem very common in most apps on the market.
Permission for the position seems ok for a Gps navigation program but also for an alarm clock? Where do they sent my data and what use they do?
I use LBE privacy guard but it is enough?
what do you think?
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are you a thief?? :laugh:

Most of the permissions are for ads bases on location
Batcom2

xxXismakillXxx said:
are you a thief?? :laugh:
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No, but I'm thinking about it. Seriously, have you ever wonder why you get web searches, translations and other services for free and yet the companies that handle the sites are billionaires? Because they sell your personal data and your commercial preferences to other companies without your permission. Think about it when you post your personal data on the web.

zelendel said:
Most of the permissions are for ads bases on location
Batcom2
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I'm not so sure about that. However if I buy an ad free app , there shouldn't be any ads. And why an alarm clock need my phone id and can access my call log? It's fishy.

Toriko said:
I'd like to pone a privacy problem.
In Android ,installed apps require permissions to operate. Permissions to access the Phone Id (also the IMEI) or the position of the device or the access to your calls seem very common in most apps on the market.
Permission for the position seems ok for a Gps navigation program but also for an alarm clock? Where do they sent my data and what use they do?
I use LBE privacy guard but it is enough?
what do you think?
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Rule of thumb: Every app that asks for unique device numbers, location and a backchannel does so because it contains advertisement. Advertisers simply love to track customers and find out as much as possible about them in order to deliver ads that actually result in a sale (contrary to popular belief, they don't do that just to annoy the crap out of everyone).
Personally, I don't use LBE privacy guard. I haven't seen the source and that pretty much means it is as much a blackbox as the apps, it is suppose to protect me from. For me, rooting and installing a firewall to simply block the backchannel does the trick.

If u filter out apps for their permissions, u will have nothing but the system apps left on the phone! even I used to check permissions b4 downloading at the beginning. Then as I downloaded a lot of apps i was lazy enough to give a dang to wat permissions the app wants! just see through the comments (reviews) to know if there are any issues with the app! That's it.! And nowadays the app developer tries to explain the reason for each permission the app asks for. So sooner all apps are gonna be explaining their permissions! (hopefully)

zelendel said:
Most of the permissions are for ads bases on location
Batcom2
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This is true although some use it to collect app usage information for the purpose of improving the app. Unfortunately, it can be difficult to determine exactly why a particular permission is requested.

onyxbits said:
Personally, I don't use LBE privacy guard. I haven't seen the source and that pretty much means it is as much a blackbox as the apps, it is suppose to protect me from. For me, rooting and installing a firewall to simply block the backchannel does the trick.
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Installing a firewall won't solve the problem, because you can't stop apps that need connection : together with the access to the net they send your data. LBE allows the access for the app but block the transmission of your id together with other data.
Anyway LBE also works as a firewall. There's another app that works the same way (Pdroid) but supports only Gingerbread.

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[APP][ROOT] LBE Privacy Guard - Most Powerful privacy protection app for Android

LBE Privacy Guard v2 is available, check http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18948472#post18948472 for more information.
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First, my apologize for poor engish
Please allow me to introduce LBE Privacy Guard, a small app wrote by myself. This app enhances Android permission system and protects your privacy.
LBE Privacy Guard works just like Windows UAC, it intercept vital actions (like send SMS, call phones) and requests to access sensitive data(SMS conversation, contacts, phone location, IMEI, IMSI, etc) from apps, then prompt for your confirmation. Unless explicit permit, such actions and request will be rejected.
LBE Privacy Guard also has a low-level firewall, supports per-app control like droidwall, but not require netfilter/iptables so it works on pre-froyo devices and faster than droidwall because it doesn't filter packets.
So why I wrote this app? Because android permission system sucks, it's very hard for average user to understand the meaning of each permission, there is also no way to track the behavior of installed app and no way to control the permission of installed app(except uninstallation).
I hope my app could bring dynamic permission control and real-time track for installed apps. So you can figure out which app is stealing your privacy and block it before your privacy stolen.
Requirements
**NEEDS ROOT**
Works on Android 2.0 and above.
Tested on various devices and firmwares, but not tested on Android 3.0 and 3.1 devices.
Current Features
1. Block unwanted send SMS / call phone operation
2. Block unwanted access to phone location, contacts, SMS/MMS conversation database, IMEI/IMSI/ICCID/phone number.
3. Integrated low-level firewall, no netfilter/iptables required, works on pre-froyo devices
Market Link
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.lbe.security
Contact us
For any questions, feel free to send mail to [email protected], any comments are welcomed.
You can also check our website at http://www.lbesec.com (Chinese only)
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Good application, Thank you
im gonna give this a look. will report back if any issues
Been waiting for an app that watches local permissions.
Can you tell me what exactly is "low-level firewall." How can it filter network traffic if it does not make use of iptables?
Looks promising. Will give it a test ride for a few days.
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good app
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crashed after a reboot. will re-install and do another test run later as it would not start the security service when i rebooted my phone.
This is great app... works very well on 2.3.4. Thanks for this wonderful app...
from my desire using xda
traumatism said:
crashed after a reboot. will re-install and do another test run later as it would not start the security service when i rebooted my phone.
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hi traumatism, i would appreciate if you could tell me your phone model, and the ROM you are using.
It looks like LBE Privacy Guard has some problems to obtain ROOT privilege during auto start process.
Installing now, this looks interesting. I'll report any issues tomorrow.
Thank you.
edit: absolutely no issues, this app is awesome!
I was looking for something like this for the longest time... especially since my kernel doesn't support iptables. Installing now.
I am gob smacked, this application is brilliant!
Had it installed for around 2 hours now, no issues at all, works perfectly fine after reboot, doesn't appear to slow down phone or have any performance impact.
This should be included in Android by default!
Running it on HTC Inspire 4G with CM7.0.3
Great app. my first impression is good. looks like you've did a good job .. Thx happy
First look is great. Thank you. It is exactly what I am looking for
asicman said:
Been waiting for an app that watches local permissions.
Can you tell me what exactly is "low-level firewall." How can it filter network traffic if it does not make use of iptables?
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The "low-level firewall" does not filter packets, instead it removes network related supplemental groups of certain process. Without such supplemental groups, socket syscall will fail with EPERM, so the application will not be able to access network.
This solution neither require netfilter kernel module / iptables binaries, nor filter packets, it's faster. but it can't distinguish 3G and WIFI connections.
I love this idea! I haven't updated "att Mark the Spot" in months because they requested access to everything. The first thing was trust my root apps, sms, gmail & voice apps, then I blocked my phone ID from ALL apps. (would've been nice to have a "reject all" option there.) My question is, are there any legitimate reasons for an app to request my IMEI? Are there any potential negatives to blocking my IMEI from ALL apps?
Edit: I also experienced the force close on reboot, but LBE started right back up on its own. Atrix 4.1.83
eoc, are you planning to release the source code?
Hi guys,
I am a little confused by this app. Can it allow me to stop the imei sending to my carrier when I connect to the network? They are trying to reduce the amount of data included in my plan if im not using an phone!
n3man said:
Hi guys,
I am a little confused by this app. Can it allow me to stop the imei sending to my carrier when I connect to the network? They are trying to reduce the amount of data included in my plan if im not using an phone!
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No., It will only block apps and not the communication between your device and the carrier which is impossible on GSM networks.
Is anybody experiencing problems with blocked apps? Like fc or anything similar.
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The one feature iOS has that I wish Android had..

Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
tekhna said:
Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
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you could disable location settings in all the apps you dont want to have location used in? unless im misunderstanding you?
i do taht with all my apps including facebook.
the only time my GPS is turned on is for when i use navigation.
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ddurandSGS3 said:
you could disable location settings in all the apps you dont want to have location used in? unless im misunderstanding you?
i do taht with all my apps including facebook.
the only time my GPS is turned on is for when i use navigation.
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Unless I've fundamentally missed some aspect of Android, if you grant an app permission to use your location when you install it, there is no way subsequently to prevent it from using your location without turning off location access entirely. iOS allows you to install an app that wants to use your location, but then deny it access.
tekhna said:
Unless I've fundamentally missed some aspect of Android, if you grant an app permission to use your location when you install it, there is no way subsequently to prevent it from using your location without turning off location access entirely. iOS allows you to install an app that wants to use your location, but then deny it access.
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it mightve read that way, but i wasnt being condescending or anything. I hope you didnt take it that way!
was just saying, i dont have GPS turn on for any app that I use except for navigation. I turn it off in settings and in the apps when requested or when i see it in settings.
does it still track in that case? I never see the icon.
tekhna said:
Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
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Install a ROM with PDroid
tekhna said:
Is the ability to manage app-specific privacy permissions--you can turn off an app's ability to query your location. I hate seeing the GPS reticle kick on when I open Facebook, but I don't have any choice but to agree to the permissions when I download the app. I know pdroid works, but this shoud be OS-level.
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Pdroid.... Get synergy..
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Did people just miss the part where I said pdroid is cool and all, but it should be integrated into the OS?
tekhna said:
Did people just miss the part where I said pdroid is cool and all, but it should be integrated into the OS?
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I'd doesn't matter what you have installed on android or iOS. Your location is always being tracked by WiFi or you data coverage. Unless you have your phone in airplane mode or turned off you will never have true privacy.
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tekhna said:
Did people just miss the part where I said pdroid is cool and all, but it should be integrated into the OS?
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pdroid is not just an app. it has to be integrated into the actual framework of the os. therefore I don't understand how it didn't fulfill your request.
corbn89 said:
pdroid is not just an app. it has to be integrated into the actual framework of the os. therefore I don't understand how it didn't fulfill your request.
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What he is saying is the he should not have to root and install a custom ROM with pdroid to be able to do this. His point was that it should be built in to STOCK android.
z06mike said:
What he is saying is the he should not have to root and install a custom ROM with pdroid to be able to do this. His point was that it should be built in to STOCK android.
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ah I see. that case is unlikely then. Google is pretty much king at mining data for advertising profit and I don't think they would do anything to restrict that unless forced by law.
also, unless you have a nexus phone, every " stock" android is actually already a custom Rom created by the phone manufacturer. some manufacturers make it harder to install privacy protection measures than others. that's unfortunately one of the downsides of open source.
Miui let's you handle each app independently... there is also a mod to I stall the LBE guard instead of supersu on any ROM and you can monitor each app independently. Search for the MIUI superuser app
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Why do you not have this posted in Q&A.
I would assume you could find answers there instead of just complaining about it here.
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security concerns migrating from iOs to Android

As title suggests, coming from a so called "clean" iOS environment to Android, my main concern how susceptible is my data to being stolen. I have no (current) plans to root my next phone and will be used mainly from business, but from what I have read in the past even google play store apps have been to known to have malicious content. Am I worrying too much ? I do carry sensitive work data on my iPhone.
applefag said:
As title suggests, coming from a so called "clean" iOS environment to Android, my main concern how susceptible is my data to being stolen. I have no (current) plans to root my next phone and will be used mainly from business, but from what I have read in the past even google play store apps have been to known to have malicious content. Am I worrying too much ? I do carry sensitive work data on my iPhone.
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As long as the apps you install are from known sources (i.e. Play Store) you don't need to worry. Also every time you download an app check the permissions. If you think that the app shouldn't have those permissions then don't download it. Finally for safety reasons never install any apps from unknown sources (i.e. outside of Play Store) unless you trust the developer.
If you still find yourself worrying read this.
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Am I worrying too much ?
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Yep
I think you won't install any app outside Google Play so install apps that you know and you won't need to worry. FYI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux
kalpetros said:
Also every time you download an app check the permissions. If you think that the app shouldn't have those permissions then don't download it.
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Well only if you are sure. Sometimes apps need permissions that aren't justified for some people.
for the open nature of the android ecosystem, it is somewhat normal that you will have to be careful though there are several different techniques, i use this the most.
Root your phone, install xposed framework and install xprivacy. here is a review of what it does http://www.xda-developers.com/android/manage-individual-app-permissions-with-xprivacy/ . I know the installation pprocess may seem daunting, but it is easier than you think this module wil allow you to block apps of certain permission. IE. you can block location service for all the apps on your phone so that no app can get your location. There are bunch of other permissions that you can block like access to contact, gallery etc
My question to others is : Is antivirus application on android worth it? I mean can it protect me from real time attaks and malwares??
SaffatBokul said:
My question to others is : Is antivirus application on android worth it? I mean can it protect me from real time attaks and malwares??
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Not useful IMO. FYI I remember this article.
User sensibility is your best defense. Don't install apps not from the market. Only install apps with a lot of positive comments.
I would advise again rooting your phone. It's true that there are ways to block apps from accessing your private data on a rooted phone, but the additional vulnerability from unlocking your bootloader and rooting is not worth it. Just stick to apps from major developers.
snapper.fishes said:
User sensibility is your best defense. Don't install apps not from the market. Only install apps with a lot of positive comments.
I would advise again rooting your phone. It's true that there are ways to block apps from accessing your private data on a rooted phone, but the additional vulnerability from unlocking your bootloader and rooting is not worth it. Just stick to apps from major developers.
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I agree, rooting your phone comprimises your security even if you do it to install security apps.
Primokorn said:
Yep
I think you won't install any app outside Google Play so install apps that you know and you won't need to worry.
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Unfortunately, new apps in Google Play are rarely verified by Google staff, so there is still always a possibility of trojan or other malware.

(Potential) Malware found on Elephone S3 right out of box?

Hi guys
I recently purchased a Elephone S3 from Everbuying.com. I heard people talking about how notorious these Chinese phones are having malware installed on them, so I decided to give the malware check a go and use about 10+ popular Malware detection apps (Avast, Kaspersky, Avira, Trojan Killer, you name it) currently available on Play Store.
Out of all those, excluding warnings that doesn't really matter in this regards (Malware specific), the below two apps gave me those respective warning results.
I have done some research, but i don't think I found any relevant info in this regards. So, for all the guru out there, the question is obvious, should I be worried about these "non-deletable" apps (if not rooted)? If they ARE malicious, can I be worried free by turning off ALL permissions for the apps and in some case, disable the app (I can disable the Beauty Center, not ELE Launcher).
Thanks to you all for any input!
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
App - Beauty Center
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.a
App - ELE Launcher
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.H
Stubborn Trojan Killer
App - Beauty Center
Message - General Trojan
App - ELE Launcher
Message - General Trojan
bagachin said:
Hi guys
I recently purchased a Elephone S3 from Everbuying.com. I heard people talking about how notorious these Chinese phones are having malware installed on them, so I decided to give the malware check a go and use about 10+ popular Malware detection apps (Avast, Kaspersky, Avira, Trojan Killer, you name it) currently available on Play Store.
Out of all those, excluding warnings that doesn't really matter in this regards (Malware specific), the below two apps gave me those respective warning results.
I have done some research, but i don't think I found any relevant info in this regards. So, for all the guru out there, the question is obvious, should I be worried about these "non-deletable" apps (if not rooted)? If they ARE malicious, can I be worried free by turning off ALL permissions for the apps and in some case, disable the app (I can disable the Beauty Center, not ELE Launcher).
Thanks to you all for any input!
Malwarebytes Anti-Malware
App - Beauty Center
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.a
App - ELE Launcher
Message - Android/PUP.Riskware.Cooee.H
Stubborn Trojan Killer
App - Beauty Center
Message - General Trojan
App - ELE Launcher
Message - General Trojan
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go ahead and disable Beauty Center, as far as ELE Launcher, that seems legit. But if you don't like it, just replace it with something like Nova Launcher.
mattzeller said:
go ahead and disable Beauty Center, as far as ELE Launcher, that seems legit. But if you don't like it, just replace it with something like Nova Launcher.
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Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
bagachin said:
Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Well look at reviews of the app, see if it is installing other apps without your consent, or constantly nagging you to download other apps. Generally 99.99% of apps on Google play are safe. Occasionally some crapware gets on there, but if you take a look at its rating and reviews (not just the highlights) you should be good.
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bagachin said:
Hi mattzeller, thanks heaps for the info! This might not be a good question, but just for my information, generally speaking, is there a way to distinguish between a real harmful malware (actively stealing personal info) and an app that has more access and integration to the phone's OS than others by looking at the information provided? In other words, is there any obvious give away sign?
Thanks again for the help!
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Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
KernelCorn said:
Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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That's the best way to do it.
I do the same thing, but I see lots of people posting here that aren't too tech savvy. For them be mindful of what you download.
mattzeller said:
Well look at reviews of the app, see if it is installing other apps without your consent, or constantly nagging you to download other apps. Generally 99.99% of apps on Google play are safe. Occasionally some crapware gets on there, but if you take a look at its rating and reviews (not just the highlights) you should be good.
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Thanks for the advice. Yes, I am aware that common source/cause of malwares are side load apps and rooted device. So I am always fairly cautious about any apps i installed via non-play store source. However, these two caught apk are installed right out of box. That kinda annoys me. I don't jump on the bandwagon and say Chinese phones are infested with malwares and I believe a lot of the time people just over exaggerate and blow some minority out of proportion.
However, the truth is, this is the first Chinese phone I got and it came with two identified malwares. To be fair, it might not be particularly malicious, but it's enough to make me have second thought about my purchase....
KernelCorn said:
Always check the apps permissions. I absolutely refuse to install an app that has permissions that it shouldn't be using. However, if the app you're about to download needs permissions related to the app features, that's OK with me.
I see so many Play Store apps that are just total spyware in my book. Flashlight apps are a good example of this. There is zero reasons a flashlight app needs to read my contacts or a data connection. Just be mindful of reviews and permissions and you'll be OK.
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Thanks for the comment! Yes, I am quite careful about the app I get to choose to install, but I have little control over these apps that come pre-installed on these chinese phone and got detected as "malwares"
mattzeller said:
I don't worry about apps with excessive permissions, I just revoke the permissions I don't like.
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Yap, what I did for those two apps I mentioned are turning off all permissions access to them, disable app for the one I can and turn off background data access. Hopefully it will freeze them for good and stop them from playing naughty.
Just a question though, say I do all those above (e.g. switching off permission, force stopped etc), technically speaking, can a malware still be "active and do what they "meant" to do"? I meant after all, they are meant to do something "out of control" right?
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Yap, what I did for those two apps I mentioned are turning off all permissions access to them, disable app for the one I can and turn off background data access. Hopefully it will freeze them for good and stop them from playing naughty.
Just a question though, say I do all those above (e.g. switching off permission, force stopped etc), technically speaking, can a malware still be "active and do what they "meant" to do"? I meant after all, they are meant to do something "out of control" right?
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No, if you revoke the permission to view your contacts, it is the system that is blocking the apps ability to view your contacts.
Though I think you are being a little paranoid.
Everyone freaks out out all the permissions apps require, when the app actually never uses most of the permissions it asks for, at least not in the way you think. You wouldn't think the launcher needs permissions to access your contacts, but it does. How else is it going to allow you to make a call, or display an incoming all, or missed call/text badges.
I mean take a look at the litany of permissions Nova Launcher and TeslaUnread require, yet we all know the app is not malware. As long as you install from legitimate sources, you will be fine. Like I said in my first post, disable the Beauty app, the other is the Launcher. If you don't like it, install a different one.
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Who would you rather have snoop in on your calls? China, or USA.. Because it is one or the other.. me personally, I will take the country in which I do not reside...
mattzeller said:
No, if you revoke the permission to view your contacts, it is the system that is blocking the apps ability to view your contacts.
Though I think you are being a little paranoid.
Everyone freaks out out all the permissions apps require, when the app actually never uses most of the permissions it asks for, at least not in the way you think. You wouldn't think the launcher needs permissions to access your contacts, but it does. How else is it going to allow you to make a call, or display an incoming all, or missed call/text badges.
I mean take a look at the litany of permissions Nova Launcher and TeslaUnread require, yet we all know the app is not malware. As long as you install from legitimate sources, you will be fine. Like I said in my first post, disable the Beauty app, the other is the Launcher. If you don't like it, install a different one.
Sent from my SCH-R220
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Unfortunately the way things are with the permissive Android system, we have to be a little paranoid. The built in system apps like launchers and permissions can't be disabled easily unless the user is technical enough to know about rooting using apps like xposed/xprivacy.

App with trackers, permissions

Hi there,
I am a newbie with Android and smart phones.
As an old-school tech, from Windows 3.0 to Gnu/Linux, I want for long time avoid all GAFAM stuff and keep a bit of privacy and security.
I came across the Exodus site and try to find app with zero tracker and minimum permission.
Do you care about that?
Do you use FOSS apps?
Do you have a list of usual apps that fulfill your need AND privacy?
Any help, advise, list of apps (browser, messaging, files management, maintenance, ...) are welcome.
Thank you
IMHO it doesn't matter where you fetch apps from: F-Droid, Google Play Store, etc.pp.
Apps typically request normal premissions and dangerous permissoins.
Dangerous persmissions are
READ_CALENDAR
WRITE_CALENDAR
CAMERA
READ_CONTACTS
WRITE_CONTACTS
GET_ACCOUNTS
ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION
ACCESS_COARSE_LOCATION
RECORD_AUDIO
READ_PHONE_STATE
READ_PHONE_NUMBERS
CALL_PHONE
ANSWER_PHONE_CALLS
READ_CALL_LOG
WRITE_CALL_LOG
ADD_VOICEMAIL
USE_SIP
PROCESS_OUTGOING_CALLS
BODY_SENSORS
SEND_SMS
RECEIVE_SMS
READ_SMS
RECEIVE_WAP_PUSH
RECEIVE_MMS
READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
and only become activated if user clicks ALLOW to them: so it's on user what permissions can be used by an app.
So-called normal permissions get allowed by default without any user interaction.
jwoegerbauer said:
and only become activated if user clicks ALLOW to them: so it's on user what permissions can be used by an app.
So-called normal permissions get allowed by default without any user interaction.
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I you sure only normal permissions get allowed by default without any user interaction? and where can I separately allow or deny them? Is there a place where all these permissions are explained and what I'll block in the app when denied?
What about tracker? Is it possible to deactivate them?
I think trackers are more intrusive than permissions. Am I right?
MrNice said:
I you sure only normal permissions get allowed by default without any user interaction? and where can I separately allow or deny them? Is there a place where all these permissions are explained and what I'll block in the app when denied?
What about tracker? Is it possible to deactivate them?
I think trackers are more intrusive than permissions. Am I right?
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Yes, only normal permissions get allowed by default, the apps will ask for the rest of them and you can deny them if you want. Also the only way to disable trackers is with aurora appwarden or trackercontrol, but sometimes the apps with disabled trackers could crash.
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an app only can track you if it has the related Android permission granted to do so.
The Penguin said:
Also the only way to disable trackers is with aurora appwarden or trackercontrol,
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jwoegerbauer said:
an app only can track you if it has the related Android permission granted to do so.
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Hummm, for me, these 2 sentences look like an oxymoron.
Could you explain?
My last 2 cents here:
An app doesn't have trackers, it only has granted permissions, but an app may behave as tracker - where it doesn't matter whatever it will track - if it got granted the related permissions.
Have a nice day.
I use Karma Firewall to log/see what's accessing the internet and block it if needed.
Many don't need internet access to be functional.
Some of the worst offenders I uninstalled.
Gookill is the worst offender, I keep Google play Services and Playstore disabled 99% of the time.
Some freeware apps are perfect. They do nothing except what they're suppose to do and never attempt internet access; keepers.

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